Current Events > Biden: I'm the only one who can beat Trump in 2024

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Bestoffuture
04/19/22 12:20:35 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/apr/19/joe-biden-run-again-2024-report

Fucking old fucks


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JimmyFraska
04/19/22 12:21:11 PM
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He beat him before whats the problem
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PatrickMahomes
04/19/22 12:21:13 PM
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lmfao if it's biden v trump again, trump will absolutely sweep

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He beat him before whats the problem

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ic in a century, he would have lost the first time

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SauI_Goodman
04/19/22 12:21:16 PM
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Never thought id vote libertarian 3 times in a row.
But theres no guarantee trump is the front runner.

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JuanCarlos1
04/19/22 12:21:35 PM
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He would be 82 years old...

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RedLuigi
04/19/22 12:52:32 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/8/AAfJppAADJlY.jpg

Joebi-den Kenobi, help me

Youre my only hope

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K181
04/19/22 12:58:15 PM
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Biden would win again, deal with it.

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Please. The pandemic reduced Dem ground activity by a massive amount and allowed for the GOP to try to throw away as many mail-in votes as possible.

If not for the pandemic, the Dem turnout would've been higher and the get out the vote effort would've been significantly more pronounced.

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Bestoffuture
04/19/22 12:59:25 PM
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K181 posted...
Biden would win again, deal with it.

Please. The pandemic reduced Dem ground activity by a massive amount and allowed for the GOP to try to throw away as many mail-in votes as possible.

If not for the pandemic, the Dem turnout would've been higher and the get out the vote effort would've been significantly more pronounced.

Meh. I'm just frustrated that it's just these old, completely out of touch with reality guys still leading both parties.

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RealityDose
04/19/22 1:00:26 PM
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>everyone including democracts last election
All Trump has to do is not massively fuck up and he's won!

Yeah I don't think Biden is gonna have a hope if the Trump Train Trucks Through again
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K181
04/19/22 1:00:31 PM
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Also, friendly reminder that since 2000.....

Dem losses - 2000, 2004, 2012
Dem wins - 2008, 2012, 2020

Guess which three featured Biden on the ticket and which three didn't? Obviously not suggesting that Obama would've lost without him, but he's got twenty years of experience feeling like the Dems lose without him and win with him. Kind of hard to wash away him having a big ego with that in mind.

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K181
04/19/22 1:01:01 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
Meh. I'm just frustrated that it's just these old, completely out of touch with reality guys still leading both parties.

That's absolutely understandable.

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BuckVanHammer
04/19/22 1:01:03 PM
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donnie just grifting. i dont think he'll end up the nom...

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kawalimus
04/19/22 1:02:39 PM
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K181 posted...


Dem losses - 2000


Dems won in 2000.
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angeleyes94
04/19/22 1:02:52 PM
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It's time for Mayor pete and aoc to step up. Trump is finished de santis is the new trump.

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LightHawKnight
04/19/22 1:03:36 PM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
donnie just grifting. i dont think he'll end up the nom...

All the polls show that he will end up the nom at this rate.

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apolloooo
04/19/22 1:04:01 PM
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Biden the fell omen

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K181
04/19/22 1:05:28 PM
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kawalimus posted...
Dems won in 2000.

Funny talking point, but no. They didn't have an organized response to the Florida recount and basically legally fucked themselves with a pretty haphazard strategy that let courts pretty easily toss their attempts to selectively recount aside. Not to mention that the Dems fucked up all over the place in 2000, including somehow dropping the ball in NH which would've won them the presidency even without Florida.

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itachi15243
04/19/22 1:05:47 PM
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Maybe he'll win on the "hopefully Russia won't nuke us for sending it troops or other stupid shit" card.

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hitokoriX
04/19/22 1:05:59 PM
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In this country we don't choose who we want. We vote against the person we don't want in office. Most people who vote Democrat don't even like the candidate, they just hate Republicans more (for good reason)

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Questionmarktarius
04/19/22 1:07:50 PM
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DeadBankerDream
04/19/22 1:08:30 PM
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I honestly thought Biden would bow out gracefully after one term. He's so fucking old. I can't imagine him being in that office another 4 years.

America, stop with the old people.

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Doom_Art
04/19/22 1:09:45 PM
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Y'all underestimated the guy in 2020 as well

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kawalimus
04/19/22 1:13:12 PM
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K181 posted...
Funny talking point, but no. They didn't have an organized response to the Florida recount and basically legally fucked themselves with a pretty haphazard strategy that let courts pretty easily toss their attempts to selectively recount aside. Not to mention that the Dems fucked up all over the place in 2000, including somehow dropping the ball in NH which would've won them the presidency even without Florida.

No, they won. Their response to the recount being bad is irrelevant. Anyone watching that recount at the time knew that if the recount had continued Gore would overtake Bush. The Supreme Court put a stop to that for arbitrary reasons that were never properly explained.

You also forget that Florida was straight up *called* for Gore. That is not done lightly. Those calls are done scientifically it's not random commentators going "this looks good for Gore". But a heavy Gore area was coming back disproportionately in favor of Pat Buchanan due to the butterfly ballot design.
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Tyranthraxus
04/19/22 1:17:02 PM
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2024 be like:
https://youtu.be/bsve9wB_sEA

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The Wheelman1
04/19/22 1:21:23 PM
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I despise Trump but I can't see Biden winning against him again. Trump has far more followers than Biden.

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K181
04/19/22 1:23:35 PM
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I didn't say it was small. But it was absolutely smaller than it would've been had Dems been more comfortable voting in person and without the GOP selectively targeting as many mostly Dem mail-ins as possible. And that was all done without the Dems' usual GOTV efforts.

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ncsonic
04/19/22 1:26:43 PM
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Trump is going to jail, hes not even running for real

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CactusCat
04/19/22 1:30:48 PM
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the sad thing is that Libertarians on the local/state level (at least where I live) are nothing like the national level.
all of the facebook groups about libertarianism I've been part of immediately turned into a pro-trump group in disguise around 2015-2016, but on the more local (at least libertarians i know irl, myself included) can't stand a lot of Trump's policies..
i just wish federal level stuff wasn't such a big debacle and that state/local ordinances had more weight. that way people could just move to another state if it didn't align with their values, rather than the entire country getting swept up in a mess.

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K181
04/19/22 1:31:13 PM
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Two and a half years is a long time when we should hopefully see inflationary trends long since abide, and who do you honestly think has better odds that Biden? Bernie is likewise ancient and so far has yet to win a one-on-one matchup versus a moderate nationally, AOC has never had to appeal outside her very small circle of safely blue voters, Harris is seemingly a non-starter for most voters on her own, Buttigieg likely has some legs but if the administration is faring poorly enough for an incumbent to not run again he'd be tarnished as a cabinet secretary, and really no one else has national name recognition so it's impossible to say how a random governor or senator would fare any better than Biden.

Dems have a major successor problem here. If it's not Biden in 2024, there isn't remotely anyone that would be a shoe-in replacement without some pretty hefty leaps of faith. I mean, the only name that comes to mind is Michelle Obama, and she's repeatedly said she wasn't interested.

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Strider102
04/19/22 1:33:15 PM
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Trump would win simply because his people would be at voting locations with guns scaring off any dem voters and/or minorities.

They want to avoid "another steal"

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Doom_Art
04/19/22 1:36:38 PM
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K181 posted...
Two and a half years is a long time when we should hopefully see inflationary trends long since abide, and who do you honestly think has better odds that Biden? Bernie is likewise ancient and so far has yet to win a one-on-one matchup versus a moderate nationally, AOC has never had to appeal outside her very small circle of safely blue voters, Harris is seemingly a non-starter for most voters on her own, Buttigieg likely has some legs but if the administration is faring poorly enough for an incumbent to not run again he'd be tarnished as a cabinet secretary, and really no one else has national name recognition so it's impossible to say how a random governor or senator would fare any better than Biden.

Dems have a major successor problem here. If it's not Biden in 2024, there isn't remotely anyone that would be a shoe-in replacement without some pretty hefty leaps of faith. I mean, the only name that comes to mind is Michelle Obama, and she's repeatedly said she wasn't interested.
Anyone who's been predicted as a "rising star" or the "frontrunner" in the last bunch of cycles almost never ends up being the one to take it.

Some state-level or Senate Democrat would come out of nowhere and jump to the front of the queue

The next Democrat after Biden is likely someone we've never heard of

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VigorouslySwish
04/19/22 1:39:33 PM
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Kinda hope trump gets in at this point just so when the world collapses its all on the republicans shoulders and theyll lose the youth forever

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K181
04/19/22 1:41:27 PM
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That's very probable. But we're talking about only 2.5 years (longtime for economic and national changes, short time for an individual politician to get name recognition). Even Obama needed four to get his name out there. I just don't see a Polis or an Inslee or a Beshear or a Whitmer or a Lujan Grisham rising from relative obscurity to winning the presidency in that short of a time period.

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Unknown580
04/19/22 1:42:57 PM
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Any Democrat is better than the shit stain Republicans who killed over a million Americans.
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BignutzisBack
04/19/22 1:45:33 PM
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If it ends up being Biden versus Trump again I think Trump would win, as long as he's still has his frantic energy. If he comes off as if he is starting to slow down I would give it to Biden.

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FortuneCookie
04/19/22 1:46:54 PM
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Sleepy Joe is our only hope of avoiding fascism in America?

How is the housing market in Canada?

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CommonStar
04/19/22 1:52:14 PM
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Trump never stopped campaigning and has continued building his support. I don't see Biden winning in 2024 unless the Democrats make some shit happen to impactfully improve peoples material conditions.
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GawainNerevar
04/19/22 1:52:43 PM
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I don't know that anyone will beat him if we don't do more (or even the bare minimum) to protect voting rights.

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creativerealms
04/19/22 1:55:23 PM
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Trump will beat Biden this time.

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viewmaster_pi
04/19/22 1:56:18 PM
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i'm so sick of old people

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K181
04/19/22 1:56:45 PM
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Nothing about savior. I don't even see a John Kerry-level candidate sitting in the wings at the moment.

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What_
04/19/22 1:56:48 PM
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We should change the constitution to that they have to fight to the death and then we watch them both die from exhaustion And all of America cheers
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Frosted_Midna
04/19/22 1:56:57 PM
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What is up with America wanting old people in power? So darn tired of it!

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Tyranthraxus
04/19/22 2:05:02 PM
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The Wheelman1 posted...
I despise Trump but I can't see Biden winning against him again. Trump has far more followers than Biden.
Trump lost both popular votes in both his elections.

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