Poll of the Day > That moment when on single action (that should have been lethal) succeeds and...

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Nichtcrawler X 04/04/22 4:46:02 PM #1:	derails the whole campaign. Brilliant. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:964021687] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote>derails the whole campaign. Brilliant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 04/05/22 3:42:10 AM #2:	Byeah --- I use inverted controls, I hate fandoms, and I aim to be the Pinball Wizard. I'm the Assman. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:964035638] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote>Byeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 04/05/22 4:39:20 PM #3:	Derails? The campaign shouldn't have been on rails in the first place! You're not a train conductor, you're a balloonist. Ride that balloon wherever the wind takes you! --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:964049781] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote>Derails? The campaign shouldn't have been on rails in the first place! You're not a train conductor, you're a balloonist. Ride that balloon wherever the wind takes you!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fat_Fiona 04/05/22 4:42:17 PM #4:	Blorfenburger posted... Byeah Byeah! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDm6j92DshA --- "i wonder where this fat f**k floated in from?" <cite>Fat_Fiona posted [p:964049855] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote>Blorfenburger posted... </cite> <quote>Byeah</quote>Byeah! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDm6j92DshA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 04/05/22 5:31:47 PM #5:	Fat_Fiona posted... Byeah! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDm6j92DshA Byeah --- I use inverted controls, I hate fandoms, and I aim to be the Pinball Wizard. I'm the Assman. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:964051161] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote>Fat_Fiona posted... </cite> <quote>Byeah! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDm6j92DshA</quote>Byeah </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 04/05/22 7:16:11 PM #6:	Then let me word it as taking out of the agency what had been our main campaign/motivation. By already preventing the villain's plan at the first of 4 seals, preventing the breaking of the first seal on an ancient evil god's prison. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:964053802] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote>Then let me word it as taking out of the agency what had been our main campaign/motivation. By already preventing the villain's plan at the first of 4 seals, preventing the breaking of the first seal on an ancient evil god's prison. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 04/05/22 7:51:29 PM #7:	Nichtcrawler X posted... Then let me word it as taking out of the agency what had been our main campaign/motivation. By already preventing the villain's plan at the first of 4 seals, preventing the breaking of the first seal on an ancient evil god's prison. Yeah, but that's when you pivot! https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheManBehindTheMan https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DragonAscendant https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle The players have stopped your villain? Now he's got motivation to hunt them down and torture them specifically. Or if they managed to kill him? It turns out his lieutenant (or his lover, or his kids, or his now-uncontrolled super-weapon) can set their own plans into motion. Or a second villain, who was only holding back because he didn't want to provoke the first villain, is now free to begin their own plans. Hell, that villain you killed has now been raised as an undead slave to the Demon King, and he's really, really pissed at you. Let the players celebrate for a while. Maybe local leaders praise their success. Throw a party or two! Then WHAM - assassins show up out of nowhere and murder some people close to them. Or one of the other three seals gets broken, and they realize that things aren't over yet. (This was basically the entire framework of the Dark Alliance games - beat one bad guy, you open the door for the next one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mfZhhjZ6-U https://youtu.be/1MAmaSkjRaU?t=244 The villain is dead - and now the second villain can make his move. The good NPC that helped you save the day? He was working for the second villain all along. You killed the bad guy? Now the other bad guy can steal his stuff. You're hailed as champions of the kingdom! ...now you're expected to solve all the major problems, except now you're risking more and will probably be rewarded less. Winning sucks!) CONVERSELY: The players stopped the breaking of the seal of an evil god's prison? Well, that's certainly good news for the priests of the other evil god - now there's no competition for when they try to set their plans in motion. Or for that matter, who says it was an evil god sealed away in the first place? What if it was actually a good god (or angel, or other powerful being), and centuries of propaganda and deliberate misinformation has led people to maintain the prison for something they should all be letting out? Now you can slowly seed hints later in the campaign that can lead the players to realize how they've all been deceived - leading them to start going around breaking the seals themselves (only to be opposed by all the other good and noble heroes who assume they're wrong or lying). And then, of course, there's the double bluff - what if you convince them that the seals are actually trapping a good god, and they free it... and then it turns out it really was an evil god all along? Oops! Or maybe the seals wind up not being important at all, other than as the intro heroic quest (it turns out heroes stop some villain or another from breaking one every few hundred years or so, it's no big thing). But it turns out that, while the players were busy protecting the seal, no one was paying attention while the second villain broke into some hidden armory and stole an ancient superweapon, and now he's got the orb that lets him control dragons, and he's using his dragon army to conquer entire kingdoms. Maybe have him mockingly thank the heroes for the distraction. There's SO MANY WAYS to pull the rug out from the players. They short-circuited their way to a victory that prematurely jumps them to the endgame? Surprise, that was never the real endgame at all! --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:964054697] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nichtcrawler X posted...</cite> <quote>Then let me word it as taking out of the agency what had been our main campaign/motivation. By already preventing the villain's plan at the first of 4 seals, preventing the breaking of the first seal on an ancient evil god's prison. </quote> Yeah, but that's when you pivot! https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheManBehindTheMan https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DragonAscendant https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle The players have stopped your villain? Now he's got motivation to hunt them down and torture them specifically. Or if they managed to kill him? It turns out his lieutenant (or his lover, or his kids, or his now-uncontrolled super-weapon) can set their own plans into motion. Or a second villain, who was only holding back because he didn't want to provoke the first villain, is now free to begin their own plans. Hell, that villain you killed has now been raised as an undead slave to the Demon King, and he's really, really pissed at you. Let the players celebrate for a while. Maybe local leaders praise their success. Throw a party or two! Then WHAM - assassins show up out of nowhere and murder some people close to them. Or one of the other three seals gets broken, and they realize that things aren't over yet. (This was basically the entire framework of the Dark Alliance games - beat one bad guy, you open the door for the next one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mfZhhjZ6-U https://youtu.be/1MAmaSkjRaU?t=244 The villain is dead - and now the second villain can make his move. The good NPC that helped you save the day? He was working for the second villain all along. You killed the bad guy? Now the other bad guy can steal his stuff. You're hailed as champions of the kingdom! ...now you're expected to solve all the major problems, except now you're risking more and will probably be rewarded less. Winning sucks!) CONVERSELY: The players stopped the breaking of the seal of an evil god's prison? Well, that's certainly good news for the priests of the other evil god - now there's no competition for when they try to set their plans in motion. Or for that matter, who says it was an evil god sealed away in the first place? What if it was actually a good god (or angel, or other powerful being), and centuries of propaganda and deliberate misinformation has led people to maintain the prison for something they should all be letting out? Now you can slowly seed hints later in the campaign that can lead the players to realize how they've all been deceived - leading them to start going around breaking the seals themselves (only to be opposed by all the other good and noble heroes who assume they're wrong or lying). And then, of course, there's the double bluff - what if you convince them that the seals are actually trapping a good god, and they free it... and then it turns out it really was an evil god all along? Oops! Or maybe the seals wind up not being important at all, other than as the intro heroic quest (it turns out heroes stop some villain or another from breaking one every few hundred years or so, it's no big thing). But it turns out that, while the players were busy protecting the seal, no one was paying attention while the second villain broke into some hidden armory and stole an ancient superweapon, and now he's got the orb that lets him control dragons, and he's using his dragon army to conquer entire kingdoms. Maybe have him mockingly thank the heroes for the distraction. There's SO MANY WAYS to pull the rug out from the players. They short-circuited their way to a victory that prematurely jumps them to the endgame? Surprise, that was never the real endgame at all!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blorfenburger 04/05/22 8:16:46 PM #8:	Ohhh, is tabletop stuff? Nice. I gotta finish a clone wars game with my friends. Just, gotta, plan, at some point --- I use inverted controls, I hate fandoms, and I aim to be the Pinball Wizard. I'm the Assman. Come on boy you know what I'm all about. <cite>Blorfenburger posted [p:964055437] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote>Ohhh, is tabletop stuff? Nice. I gotta finish a clone wars game with my friends. Just, gotta, plan, at some point </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 04/05/22 10:13:32 PM #9:	I am a player in this campaign. ParanoidObsessive posted... (or his lover, The villain, a priest was having an affair with the wife of a nobleman of his village. We found out and I informed her we know through message, while her husband was besides her... ParanoidObsessive posted... The players stopped the breaking of the seal of an evil god's prison? Well, that's certainly good news for the priests of the other evil god We played cultists from a different cult in a one-shot taking place when the villain originally reached the tower. ParanoidObsessive posted... who says it was an evil god sealed away in the first place? Previous god of death, we know that part. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:964058524] in That momen... [t:79972330]...</cite> <quote>I am a player in this campaign. ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>(or his lover,</quote> The villain, a priest was having an affair with the wife of a nobleman of his village. We found out and I informed her we know through message, while her husband was besides her... ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote> The players stopped the breaking of the seal of an evil god's prison? Well, that's certainly good news for the priests of the other evil god</quote> We played cultists from a different cult in a one-shot taking place when the villain originally reached the tower. ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>who says it was an evil god sealed away in the first place?</quote> Previous god of death, we know that part. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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