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ZannoL
04/02/22 2:20:34 PM
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Do you find it sad and disturbing that fragile conservatives are so threatened that they are trying to ban books in droves?


https://people.com/politics/gavin-newsom-shares-photo-of-himself-reading-banned-books-to-figure-out-what-these-states-are-so-afraid-of/

Newsom's tweet comes as a renewed effort to ban books sprouts up in cities and towns across America.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom took to Twitter on Wednesday to share his confusion at recent efforts to ban books in some states across the country.

"Reading some banned books to figure out what these states are so afraid of," the 54-year-old Democrat wrote, alongside a photo of himself reading Toni Morrison's Beloved. Other books including Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird and George Orwell's 1984 could be seen on the table in front of him.

By and large, renewed efforts to ban books have been energized by a conservative base amid a larger cultural debate about what is appropriate for the classroom.

In Tennessee, the McMinn County Board of Education voted to remove Pulitzer Prize-winning graphic novel Maus, an animated retelling of the author's father's experience in the Holocaust, in January. The book was banned from an eighth-grade lesson plan about the Holocaust because it included nudity and curse words. The book became an Amazon best seller after getting banned by the Tennessee county school board.

In Texas, parents have recently attempted to have 86 different titles banned, including biographies about former First Lady MichelleObama and Toni Morrison's The Bluest Eye (which one parent wanted banned because it includes a rape scene).

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GrandConjuraton
04/02/22 2:21:07 PM
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But... but... cancel culture! Or something!

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wackyteen
04/02/22 2:21:24 PM
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Snowflakes, the lot of them.

Snowflakes so big they'd make Canada look like a desert

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ZannoL
04/02/22 2:21:35 PM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
But... but... cancel culture! Or something!
They prove time and time again they are the most fragile.

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What_
04/02/22 2:23:04 PM
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Nazi states
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Doom_Art
04/02/22 2:24:16 PM
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Parents need to stay the fuck outta the classroom lol

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TheVipaGTS
04/02/22 2:25:31 PM
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Conservatives acting like terrorists? what a shocker.

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Solar_Crimson
04/02/22 2:41:32 PM
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The true snowflakes

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Teh_Dr_Phil
04/02/22 2:43:19 PM
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Not at all shocking. The more educated you are, the more you lean left of center.

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FigureOfSpeech
04/02/22 2:43:45 PM
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Those states are bad

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DarkRoast
04/02/22 2:47:01 PM
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They are banning 1984 because they don't want people actually reading it and realizing that it's about misinformation / fake reality through simplification of critical thought and the use of obviously conflicting information.

They prefer "1984 says big government is bad"

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DoctorPiranha3
04/02/22 2:59:53 PM
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They realize banning things means people are going to seek them out more, right?
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Sayoria
04/02/22 3:53:03 PM
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The only book that needs banning is the Bible. Shit attracts only flies.

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DarkRoast
04/02/22 3:54:39 PM
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Sayoria posted...
The only book that needs banning is the Bible. Shit attracts only flies.

Ironically, if they actually read the Bible (esp the New Testament) they wouldn't believe / do the things they do.

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LightHawKnight
04/02/22 3:55:22 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
They realize banning things means people are going to seek them out more, right?

Since when do conservatives think?

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Ruvan22
04/02/22 3:57:26 PM
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@bigblu89
You said
"And as far as C), teachers should stick to the lesson plan of the school district, and use the books the schools have approved. My hope is those books would have example of all types of races, ethnicities, and sexualities', but I'm also not nave enough to know that every school district in America isn't run by like minded people."

In Don't say Gay bill thread. This push to limit/remove reading materials seems to very much be "just stick to the lesson plan/approved books", what happens next? The current cohort of school kids experience a very white washed version of history and think only white hetero couples exist?
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Dakimakura
04/02/22 3:59:40 PM
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good books are for nerds

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ZannoL
04/02/22 5:52:20 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
They are banning 1984 because they don't want people actually reading it and realizing that it's about misinformation / fake reality through simplification of critical thought and the use of obviously conflicting information.

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AlmightyCheeks
04/02/22 5:53:47 PM
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Just like libs knocking down statues. Both sides are pussies

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creativerealms
04/02/22 5:54:00 PM
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Damn leftist SJWs and their cancel culture.

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Questionmarktarius
04/02/22 5:54:50 PM
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GrandConjuraton posted...
But... but... cancel culture! Or something!
Who do you think invented it?
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Dathrowed1
04/02/22 5:55:09 PM
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Hmm Newsom is reading books banned in his own state

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Ruvan22
04/02/22 6:13:18 PM
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AlmightyCheeks posted...
Just like libs knocking down statues. Both sides are pussies

So you feel "Seeing a statue everyday of a man who fought to keep you enslaved" is the same injustice as "hearing a family has two dads"?
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wackyteen
04/02/22 6:15:56 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
So you feel "Seeing a statue everyday of a man who fought to keep you enslaved" is the same injustice as "hearing a family has two dads"?
To be fair, his opinion is straight almighty booty cheeks

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ZannoL
04/02/22 6:16:31 PM
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AlmightyCheeks posted...
Just like libs knocking down statues. Both sides are pussies
Holy cringe....
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StarDestroyer
04/02/22 6:17:09 PM
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I thought Alabama or Mississippi would be leading the way but then again there might not be that many books in those states to begin with :/
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deupd_u
04/02/22 6:19:28 PM
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*from schools

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MabusIncarnate
04/02/22 6:19:52 PM
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Lol @ trying to ban Michelle Obama's biography. Why are they so afraid of black people in power?

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divot1338
04/02/22 6:21:39 PM
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https://youtu.be/6QSaJji6kQ8

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DarkRoast
04/02/22 6:32:36 PM
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The irony of 1984 being the GOP's favorite slippery slope reference to being a book they literally ban your children from reading is not lost on me.

Because their social media is Newspeak, Trump is basically walking Doublespeak, and basically everything they say/do is tossed into a Memory Hole.

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hockeybub89
04/02/22 6:57:04 PM
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Party of freeze peach

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hockeybub89
04/02/22 7:00:05 PM
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deupd_u posted...
*from schools
So it's okay to ban books and indoctrinate children, but not adults?

Why not take your chicken legs and move to some fucking shithole where they hate freedom and sexual minorities?

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wackyteen
04/02/22 7:58:02 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Lol @ trying to ban Michelle Obama's biography. Why are they so afraid of black people in power?
"I don't want no goddamend liberal transman corrupting my kids with ideas like TREATING PEOPLE FAIRLY AND KINDLY. FUCK YOU" - some conservative probably

(Qanon folk actually believe Michelle Obama is actually a man)

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RchHomieQuanChi
04/02/22 8:17:41 PM
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We should make a new rule: if you are a politician that has ever complained about "cancel culture" or "snowflakes", then you should not be allowed to ban anything.

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deupd_u
04/02/22 8:41:31 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So it's okay to ban books and indoctrinate children, but not adults?

Why not take your chicken legs and move to some fucking shithole where they hate freedom and sexual minorities?
Those are some biblically rustled jimmies, my dude

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Kim_Seong-a
04/02/22 8:48:12 PM
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deupd_u posted...
*from schools

"Guys, if it hasn't been literally erased from the fabric of reality, it hasn't been banned."

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creativerealms
04/02/22 9:19:45 PM
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deupd_u posted...
*from schools
It was wrong when books like Fahrenheit 451 were banned in schools and this is wrong too.

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kelemvor
04/03/22 9:04:12 AM
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https://nypost.com/2022/01/25/seattle-school-removes-to-kill-a-mockingbird-from-curriculum/

It's not just conservative states doing this.
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creativerealms
04/03/22 10:59:34 AM
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kelemvor posted...
https://nypost.com/2022/01/25/seattle-school-removes-to-kill-a-mockingbird-from-curriculum/

It's not just conservative states doing this.
banning books is bad regardless who does it. Period.

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jpenny2
04/03/22 11:15:52 AM
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Ban all books and replace them with PragerU videos.

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MixedRaceBaby
04/03/22 11:16:59 AM
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Party of small government and free speech banning books lmao

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wackyteen
04/03/22 11:20:55 AM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
Party of small government and free speech banning books lmao
Government small enough to fit in your child's neurons

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CableZL
04/03/22 11:21:03 AM
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kelemvor posted...
https://nypost.com/2022/01/25/seattle-school-removes-to-kill-a-mockingbird-from-curriculum/

It's not just conservative states doing this.
Removing a book from required reading curriculum isn't banning it.

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wackyteen
04/03/22 11:25:05 AM
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CableZL posted...
Removing a book from required reading curriculum isn't banning it.
I mean for most kids it's effectively banning it.

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CableZL
04/03/22 11:40:24 AM
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wackyteen posted...
I mean for most kids it's effectively banning it.

No, it isn't. Not forcing someone to read a book as part of curriculum isn't banning the book. If that were the case, then the vast majority of the books in school libraries are also "effectively banned."

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TyVulpine
04/03/22 11:43:54 AM
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AlmightyCheeks posted...
Just like libs knocking down statues. Both sides are pussies
You mean knocking down statues of people that turned their backs on America? Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, etc all turned their backs on the country. Why should we celebrate them with statues?

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wackyteen
04/03/22 11:56:32 AM
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CableZL posted...
No, it isn't. Not forcing someone to read a book as part of curriculum isn't banning the book. If that were the case, then the vast majority of the books in school libraries are also "effectively banned."
You missed my point.

Most kids, if not made to read a book, will never read *insert random book* in the first place.

That was true when I went through school in the mid-2000s. Its doubly true in today's social media driven world. Why would a kid spend several hours reading a book of their own volition when they could spend several hours watching a television program, or play some fast paced video games or phone games?

If you don't mandate it, to most kids the book will never exist.

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Kloe_Rinz
04/03/22 11:58:29 AM
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Honestly, I believe parents should have zero input towards their childs education.
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CableZL
04/03/22 11:59:18 AM
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wackyteen posted...
You missed my point.

Most kids, if not made to read a book, will never read *insert random book* in the first place.

That was true when I went through school in the mid-2000s. Its doubly true in today's social media driven world. Why would a kid spend several hours reading a book of their own volition when they could spend several hours watching a television program, or play some fast paced video games or phone games?

If you don't mandate it, to most kids the book will never exist.

Your point is entirely different from the topic at hand. Conservatives across the nation are using their manufactured outrage against critical race theory and neo-Nazi outrage to ban books from black authors, and anything referencing black history, the holocaust, etc. from schools entirely.

Not being forced to read a book that still exists in schools for kids to choose to read is a separate topic.

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Ruvan22
04/03/22 12:00:45 PM
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wackyteen posted...
You missed my point.

Most kids, if not made to read a book, will never read *insert random book* in the first place.

That was true when I went through school in the mid-2000s. Its doubly true in today's social media driven world. Why would a kid spend several hours reading a book of their own volition when they could spend several hours watching a television program, or play some fast paced video games or phone games?

If you don't mandate it, to most kids the book will never exist.
While your point about what kids will read is good, there is still a very important distinction between government that takes a book off the required reading and government that removes all copies of a book from libraries/prohibits discussion of a book
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