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Calwings
03/31/22 6:59:02 PM
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The 2022 BattleBots World Championship Tournament continues

https://battlebots.com/bracket/

Tonight, we'll be seeing the second-round matches in the tournament, and with so many powerful bots left and so many potential upsets, no bot is safe! You can see the full bracket by clicking the link above, but be aware that the online bracket includes the results from the first-round matches, so don't click it if you're not fully caught up. And as a reminder: Please put any discussion of match results under spoiler tags until 24 hours after the episode airs out of consideration for people who can't watch the episode live, especially if you decide to watch the episode early on Discovery+ before it airs on TV.

Showtime is about an hour away.

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LostForest
03/31/22 7:01:24 PM
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Thanks for making these threads every season, Cal! Outside of my wife, I have no one to talk BattleBots with, so these topics are always fun haha.

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GallisOTK
03/31/22 7:03:49 PM
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Preemptive #FuckHydra before the show

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Alteres
03/31/22 7:13:58 PM
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Ah, TV guide was lying, good.

I thought I wouldnt have any delay.

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Calwings
03/31/22 7:27:11 PM
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LostForest posted...
Thanks for making these threads every season, Cal! Outside of my wife, I have no one to talk BattleBots with, so these topics are always fun haha.

No problem. I'm glad to have more people to talk about it with too, even if a decent chunk of them only show up to chat after the episode actually airs.

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Compsognathus
03/31/22 7:28:20 PM
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I won't be able to watch until Saturday but fuck Hydra.

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Calwings
03/31/22 8:04:52 PM
#7:


IT'S ROBOT FIGHTIN' TIME! Uppercut vs. Riptide led off, and it was crazy. I've never seen a bot immobilize their opponent by literally ripping the foam straight out of their tires. That was insane.

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Alteres
03/31/22 8:11:28 PM
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Wow

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toreysback
03/31/22 8:12:39 PM
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that had to be the messiest KO i've seen

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Alteres
03/31/22 8:27:36 PM
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lol, exact opposite

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Starks
03/31/22 8:37:13 PM
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I think it's happened once before a season or two ago.

But oh my god.

Endgame vs Minotaur: That was incredible. The juke.

Copperhead vs Witch Doctor: Witch Doctor is scary when it's working properly.

Sawblaze vs P1: No surprises.

Uppercut vs Riptide: I'm a huge fan of Riptide's open drum design. It rips instead of grinding like most drums.

Hydra vs Black Dragon: Hydra using special tactics again but the left side looked like it was having problems. Black Dragon abandoned all strategy and went the Duck method.

Bip vs Jackpot: Holy shit. We get Blip vs Hydra. Can Blip handle a Bronco-sized flipper?

Whiplash vs Cobalt: The rules seem unclear on stoppage vs double count-out. A bit of a Quantum situation where the weapon works too well. Need to see this tomorrow on Youtube.

Rotator vs Tantrum: Tantrum could've been counted out but those pro-active self-righting movements bought them enough time. That KO is one for the highlight reels.

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toreysback
03/31/22 8:40:12 PM
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blips still looks awfully tough.

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Calwings
03/31/22 8:45:42 PM
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Tantrum and Blip both seem like they're unkillable.

Starks posted...
But oh my god.

I'm guessing by the amount of spoiler tags that you watched on Discovery+ and you're talking about all of the fights in that post, so I'm just not gonna hover over those until after the show's over.

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NightRender
03/31/22 9:01:16 PM
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My bracket and my brain have been destroyed, I think.

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Alteres
03/31/22 9:02:59 PM
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I couldnt even tell if he was serious about the drive train.

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toreysback
03/31/22 9:34:40 PM
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p1 beaten down

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Calwings
03/31/22 9:44:39 PM
#18:


Poor Whiplash. Only two fights in the regular season while a lot of other bots got three, then both of their tournament fights get off-screened and they go out on a super anti-climactic double knockout. The runner-up from last year doesn't deserve this.

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Calwings
03/31/22 10:07:37 PM
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Down goes the champ! Minotaur dominates End Game and ensures that we'll crown a brand new BattleBots champion in next week's season finale.

Meanwhile, my bracket is doing... okay. I predicted 4 of the top 8 correctly and the bot I have winning it all is still in. But today's results were a big hit.

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LostForest
03/31/22 10:52:35 PM
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YOOOOOOO Minotaur went fucking HAM! I do like End Game, but I'm always rooting for a new champion, so I was glad to see them lose.

The double count out fight was bullshit frankly. If I was Whiplash, I'd have been pissed since they seemed to still be functioning alright, but just stuck.

I think at this point I'm rooting for a Sawblaze VS Blip final. I reeeally like Witch Doctor too (even have her Hex Bug toy!) but Saw's been on fucking fire this year.

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Calwings
03/31/22 11:12:49 PM
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LostForest posted...
I think at this point I'm rooting for a Sawblaze VS Blip final.

That's the final I have on my bracket, so yeah, me too!

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NightRender
03/31/22 11:28:28 PM
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Alteres posted...
I couldnt even tell if he was serious about the drive train.

I'm pretty sure he was. Hydra was only turning in one direction when it was planted in the center. We have the benefit of multiple camera angles, but I was yelling at Black Dragon to stop engaging so Hydra would be counted out.

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ANort175
03/31/22 11:32:15 PM
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It's kind of a shame the Black Dragon driver didn't get the hint that their bot wasn't gonna get under Hydra from the front or sides, they probably could have won that fight by attacking from the back since Hydra was having serious drive problems from the start. I'm sure Jake spent the whole match thinking "Wait, they're seriously trying that again?

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Starks
04/01/22 12:17:03 AM
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Hydra made a very intimidating control play out of it. Center zone defense is not something you see very often. It wasn't just Black Dragon feeding itself.

But Hydra has clearance issues. I have no doubt that it'll get under Blip, but it scrapes the floor very hard.


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PiOverlord
04/01/22 12:19:52 AM
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This was an awesome night. A classic for sure

Riptide is a bot I keep sleeping on, but I guess it's time to wake up.

Tantrum vs Rotator had me on the edge of my seat. Really good back and forth, even if some of it was due to getting stuck.

Blip is looking pretty unstoppable, but it will have to go against

Hydra, which had a great showcase of it's flipper again. I knew they'd win as soon as the Black Dragon team basically said their strategy was to not get flipped, and that if they do get flipped, they can take it. Their aggressive strategy wasn't too surprising.

I've been down on Witch Doctor stocks lately, especially since it hasn't really had a proper showing until today, but man, that's reminding me of the 2019 WD right there.

Sawblaze won... I mean, no surprise, lol. Honestly, kudos to P1 for living the full 3 minutes.

Screw them for not showing the last year's runner-up fight at all. You could have squeezed in the fight during the 2 hour period.

The main event shocked me. I know Minotaur is good, but I really had End Game repeating unless it fought a fully-functioning Hydra. GG to the champs, but I'm excited to see a new finale and new champion!

Great night altogether.

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FigureOfSpeech
04/01/22 12:38:08 PM
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Got almost caught up. Watching 2nd half of tournament round 1 now. It says episode 13 but the previous one was 11 and episode 12 seems to not exist but this is definitely the correct episode.

Rooting for Uppercut. Former boss knows the main dude from that team personally.

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Gobstoppers12
04/01/22 1:26:18 PM
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My girlfriend is out of town this next week and left last night, so I had to promise I wouldn't watch it until she gets back... but there's one fight I just had to spoil myself on...I haven't seen it, I don't know how it happens, but I will say:

FUCK YES MINOTAUR LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOO

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KFHEWUI
04/01/22 6:41:39 PM
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Martin Mason would make a great infomercial host.

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Calwings
04/01/22 8:59:24 PM
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KFHEWUI posted...
Martin Mason would make a great infomercial host.

Or pro wrestling manager. He could talk up a jobber and make you believe he could beat Brock Lesnar.

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Starks
04/01/22 10:09:44 PM
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He's got that Macho Man energy.

I don't think he's on anything besides the natural adrenaline high.

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Calwings
04/01/22 10:48:16 PM
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24-hour spoiler moratorium is officially finished, so I wanted to ask this now: Who wins the battle of the flippers next week, Hydra or Blip? I've got Blip winning this fight and winning the whole thing in my bracket.

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Starks
04/01/22 10:58:27 PM
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Not sure. Really depends on whether Blip can get under Hydra. No limit on flips if he does.

I don't think Hydra's weight or shape is an issue. If Glitch can launch Hydra, Blip should be able to as well.

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Starks
04/01/22 11:42:14 PM
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Minotaur is a great bot. Very precise balance and control. The 2-wheel maneuverability has been consistently extraordinary. Freitas is always leaning in with that stare. He wants that nut so bad.

With respect to next week...

Minotaur destroyed Witch Doctor the last time they fought.

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DuneMan
04/02/22 12:15:02 AM
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Calwings posted...
Who wins the battle of the flippers next week, Hydra or Blip?
I'll give a nod to Blip. Hydra is plagued by reliability issues. Then, even when the bot itself is working, the small spoon flipper has a tendency to get damaged.

All in all though, it's true that the contestants are much more dialed in this season. The End Game and Minotaur fight shows how brutal things can get and yet the top bots keep fighting.

On that note, it's time for Tombstone to either get 4 wheels or be retired. Those things are just a liability as they are now. Without change Tombstone is going to go the route of Bronco, getting dunked on in every match until forced to leave in utter shame. But, hey, at least it won't get ripped apart into tiny pieces like Ghost Raptor, thanks to the crash bar design.

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PiOverlord
04/02/22 10:29:15 AM
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I personally got Hydra winning against Blip. Hydra will summon every bit of devil's magic to somehow win, even with a bot that is clearly not 100% there.

I'm sorta rooting for the flippers, though. It'd be a nice change of pace compared to the usual winners.

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KFHEWUI
04/02/22 12:34:06 PM
#37:


Starks posted...
He's got that Macho Man energy.

Snap into a slim jim!

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LostForest
04/02/22 1:14:49 PM
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I hate Hydra but I feel like it's too flat for Blip to get under unless they get real shmucky with forks (which normally I'm against, but would be cool to see Hydra get a taste of its own medicine lol)

TBH fuck Hydra lol. Black Dragon really could've done a better job, but if I were a judge I might've scored that for Black Dragon since like... something people seem to disregard is that flips don't always necessarily = damage. They look cool but most bots get drop tested to ensure they can withstand been flipped.
In a fight like that, Hydra should've scored 0 in aggression, barely anything in damage, and honestly the control factor was kind of a draw IMO.

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PiOverlord
04/02/22 10:00:31 PM
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Black Dragon did not control that fight at all, lmao.

I know Hydra has some hate, but lmao at saying it wouldn't be delusional to give Black Dragon the win. That'd be like giving the win in a boxing match to the guy who kept rushing another boxer, missing every punch, while getting pummeled continuously throughout the entire match. In Battlebots rules, aggression is about all Black dragon deserved to win.


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Compsognathus
04/02/22 11:35:53 PM
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So my friends and my's watch party is that you have to take a shot for every missed pick.

Lord help me that was not a good night. 6 shots this evening. And what's worse is I think I have nothing but shots next week since I have like no winners left.

Black Dragon was dumbfucks. They should have made Hydra which could very well not had directional movement come to them. Instead they just kept driving into their flipper. They absolutely deserve their loss and I hate Hydra.

Also I am very drink.

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MI4 REAL
04/03/22 1:29:02 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
So my friends and my's watch party is that you have to take a shot for every missed pick.

Lord help me that was not a good night. 6 shots this evening. And what's worse is I think I have nothing but shots next week since I have like no winners left.

Black Dragon was dumbfucks. They should have made Hydra which could very well not had directional movement come to them. Instead they just kept driving into their flipper. They absolutely deserve their loss and I hate Hydra.

Also I am very drink.

Don't moderate and drive, bro.

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LostForest
04/03/22 1:32:01 AM
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Hydra did virtually no visible damage to Black Dragon. I stand by what I said. Better comparison would be a boxer rushing in and getting shoved backwards \_()_/

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Compsognathus
04/03/22 1:53:44 AM
#43:


MI4 REAL posted...
Don't moderate and drive, bro.
I don't.

LostForest posted...
Hydra did virtually no visible damage to Black Dragon. I stand by what I said. Better comparison would be a boxer rushing in and getting shoved backwards \_()_/
I think the better comparison would be a boxer landing power punch after power punch on a dude with a strong jaw. Yes, it might look like they didn't hurt them, but you still watched them get all sorts of hits off while receiving almost none in return. They are gonna win on points.

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LostForest
04/03/22 2:00:58 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
I don't.

I think the better comparison would be a boxer landing power punch after power punch on a dude with a strong jaw. Yes, it might look like they didn't hurt them, but you still watched them get all sorts of hits off while receiving almost none in return. They are gonna win on points.

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#FuckHydra lol. That's all I got left haha.

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DuneMan
04/03/22 6:30:56 AM
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Yeah, to continue the boxing comparison, even throwing a bunch of weak jabs will score points if they connect. So even if Black Dragon didn't look like crumpled paper at the end of the match the fact that they kept eating attacks from a primary weapon means the points go to Hydra. With Damage and Control on Hydra's side there was no realistic scenario for Black Dragon to win.

On the other hand, if Black Dragon wasn't aggressive to the point of mindlessness and sought to break the spatula flipper on Hydra it could have been their win. Once Hydra's weapon gets damaged it's basically just a lump of a bot with a compromised drive train.

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