Current Events > Saying Smith shouldn't be banned from the Oscar beause rapists aren't is silly.

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Hoodroar
03/30/22 10:29:18 PM
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There's a big difference between causing trouble at the specific establishment you're being banned from, and otherwise committing crimes that you're punished by the law for.

Take Mike Tyson for example. He's a convicted rapist. Nevertheless, he's generally allowed to go about his daily life in peace. He like you is allowed to go to McDonald's and order a meal, despite everyone knowing he raped someone. But if he slapped the cashier, he's probably getting a lifetime ban from that McDonald's.

How is the situation any different for Will Smith slapping Oscar's personnel? You get banned from a place when you cause trouble at that specific place.

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BignutzisBack
03/30/22 10:30:27 PM
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Interesting, so if someone commits genocide outside of the Oscars they should still be allowed to attend?

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AdviceMan
03/30/22 10:30:35 PM
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Him being banned makes sense.

Him losing his Oscar does not.

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Scotty_Rogers
03/30/22 10:30:47 PM
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Abolish the Oscars.

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EmbraceOfDeath
03/30/22 10:33:57 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Interesting, so if someone commits genocide outside of the Oscars they should still be allowed to attend?
Cool strawman bro. He didn't make an argument about who is allowed to attend but shouldn't be, though.

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lolife67
03/30/22 10:34:12 PM
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AdviceMan posted...
Him being banned makes sense.

Him losing his Oscar does not.

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Punished_Blinx
03/30/22 10:35:58 PM
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4/5 of the people banned from the Oscars are sex offenders.

The Oscars are a celebration of Hollywood. They're not there to order food.

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knightmarexx
03/30/22 10:37:38 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Interesting, so if someone commits genocide outside of the Oscars they should still be allowed to attend?

If someone committed genocide, the last place they'd go is anywhere near such celebrations -- for fear of reprisals.
You only ban people who are likely to attend.
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ButteryMales
03/30/22 10:38:40 PM
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How about they ban Smith, Rapists, Child Molesters, and anti-Semites?
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BignutzisBack
03/30/22 10:42:16 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
Cool strawman bro

Thank you

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Hoodroar
03/30/22 10:43:24 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Interesting, so if someone commits genocide outside of the Oscars they should still be allowed to attend?

Ban them each for all I care. I'm just saying using one to argue lenience for the other is bizarre.

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Tyranthraxus
03/30/22 10:43:57 PM
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Hoodroar posted...
Take Mike Tyson for example.

Your example was punished severely and he served his time and hasn't gotten into any trouble since.

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Tyranthraxus
03/30/22 10:44:45 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
How about they ban Smith, Rapists, Child Molesters, and anti-Semites?

(4 people attend the Oscars)

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cuttin_in_farm
03/30/22 10:45:55 PM
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Hoodroar posted...
Ban them each for all I care. I'm just saying using one to argue lenience for the other is bizarre.

This is what gets me.

Its like Im pretty sure the people saying ban Will also want the other creepos banned too.

Internet discourse is so damn lazy.

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ButteryMales
03/30/22 10:47:44 PM
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Hoodroar posted...
Ban them each for all I care. I'm just saying using one to argue lenience for the other is bizarre.
I agree with that. You answered my previous post.
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clyde_frog
03/30/22 10:48:16 PM
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Imagine you walked into a bar, slapped a customer, got banned from said establishment, and then complained to the manager that its not fair because they allow other convicted felons and rapists to enter.

Thats how dumb this logic is.

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InfinityMonster
03/30/22 10:51:30 PM
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I mean, someone got banned for sharing a screener. Getting banned for walking up on stage and slapping the presenter seems pretty fair.

Doesn't matter if it was just a slap or that Chris Rock isn't pressing charges. That's all irrelevant to the Academy.

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Punished_Blinx
03/30/22 10:56:13 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
I mean, someone got banned for sharing a screener. Getting banned for walking up on stage and slapping the presenter seems pretty fair.

Doesn't matter if it was just a slap or that Chris Rock isn't pressing charges. That's all irrelevant to the Academy.

I find that one so strange. Out of all these years he's the only guy who did that? Absolutely no one else has done it in the last 18 years? Did they base the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode on that guy? lol

I reckon in that case they picked a guy to be made an example of. On top of that it would still be another 14 years after him until they actually did start expelling people in response to Weinstein being a sex offender.

The Academy most of all cares about how they look. It's definitely a balancing act of trying to give the right level of punishment while also not rocking the boat too much. Which is why I'd be surprised if they did end up banning him.

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FortuneCookie
03/30/22 11:06:18 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Interesting, so if someone commits genocide outside of the Oscars they should still be allowed to attend?

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Tyranthraxus
03/30/22 11:07:55 PM
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clyde_frog posted...
Imagine you walked into a bar, slapped a customer, got banned from said establishment, and then complained to the manager that its not fair because they allow other convicted felons and rapists to enter.

Thats how dumb this logic is.

Clubs will definitely throw out sex offenders if they find out who they are.

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Rayman2943
03/30/22 11:08:52 PM
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Unknown5uspect
03/30/22 11:10:48 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
I mean, someone got banned for sharing a screener. Getting banned for walking up on stage and slapping the presenter seems pretty fair.

Doesn't matter if it was just a slap or that Chris Rock isn't pressing charges. That's all irrelevant to the Academy.
Or, and hear me out. The screener sharer should have gotten a slap on the wrist because I can almost guarantee everyone does that.
Will gets something in-between that and expulsion.
And we keep the rapists and child molesters out the Academy

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InfinityMonster
03/30/22 11:22:07 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I find that one so strange. Out of all these years he's the only guy who did that? Absolutely no one else has done it in the last 18 years? Did they base the Curb Your Enthusiasm episode on that guy? lol

I reckon in that case they picked a guy to be made an example of. On top of that it would still be another 14 years after him until they actually did start expelling people in response to Weinstein being a sex offender.

The Academy most of all cares about how they look. It's definitely a balancing act of trying to give the right level of punishment while also not rocking the boat too much. Which is why I'd be surprised if they did end up banning him.

Unknown5uspect posted...
Or, and hear me out. The screener sharer should have gotten a slap on the wrist because I can almost guarantee everyone does that.
Will gets something in-between that and expulsion.
And we keep the rapists and child molesters out the Academy
Because Caridi leaked at least 60+ screeners over the years that were provided to him by the Academy. He broke their terms and was kicked.

Just like Will did.

Like, it's not a sex offenders list nor should those be the only people on there, or is it tainted and non-sex offenders should never be expelled.

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