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DarkRoast
03/29/22 11:30:58 AM
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It pretty much all started during the HCQ/Ivermectin days, but even without those being hung over our heads, they're just straight-up paranoid assholes. I don't know how else to describe it - they're almost impossibly insufferable over the smallest things and trust essentially nothing you say or do, often for seemingly no logical reason.

A few months ago I had an especially bad one and I eventually had to ask "what the hell is wrong with you, and why are you even here?"

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jpenny2
03/29/22 11:39:16 AM
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At least Trump stopped short of calling doctors the enemy of the people.

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 11:41:54 AM
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jpenny2 posted...
At least Trump stopped short of calling doctors the enemy of the people.

Sadly he threw us under the bus before the election because he didn't want to address the fact that the caseload was skyrocketing in fall/winter 2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/30/politics/trump-doctors-covid/index.html

"Our doctors get more money if someone dies from Covid. You know that, right? I mean our doctors are very smart people. So what they do is they say 'I'm sorry but everybody dies of Covid,' " Trump said, without citing any evidence, at a rally in Waterford Township, Michigan.

"In Germany and other places, if you have a heart attack, or if you have cancer, you're terminally ill, you catch Covid, they say you die of cancer, you died of heart attack. With us, when in doubt choose Covid. It's true, no, it's true. Now they'll say 'oh that's terrible what he said,' but that's true. It's like $2,000 more so you get more money," Trump said.

Yeah that was a super nice thing to say about us. And believe me, his zombies took up that mantle quick.
And before anyone responds with "that's not actually what he meant,"

1 - Yes it is
2 - That's exactly what Trump supporters heard


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Skype
03/29/22 11:43:01 AM
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At least they get to die with their freedom or something.

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jpenny2
03/29/22 11:46:26 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Sadly he threw us under the bus before the election because he didn't want to address the fact that the caseload was skyrocketing in fall/winter 2020

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/30/politics/trump-doctors-covid/index.html

"Our doctors get more money if someone dies from Covid. You know that, right? I mean our doctors are very smart people. So what they do is they say 'I'm sorry but everybody dies of Covid,' " Trump said, without citing any evidence, at a rally in Waterford Township, Michigan.

"In Germany and other places, if you have a heart attack, or if you have cancer, you're terminally ill, you catch Covid, they say you die of cancer, you died of heart attack. With us, when in doubt choose Covid. It's true, no, it's true. Now they'll say 'oh that's terrible what he said,' but that's true. It's like $2,000 more so you get more money," Trump said.

Yeah that was a super nice thing to say about us. And believe me, his zombies took up that mantle quick.
Yeah, that's bad.

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 11:48:28 AM
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jpenny2 posted...
Yeah, that's bad.

Early on I tried to explain to some of them that doctors aren't actually paid that way (and certainly not hospitalists, who are almost always salaried) and let's just say you'd have better luck arguing with a pitbull with rabies.

I even kept a print-out of the Cochrane Review for both HCQ and Ivermectin over the past year. The response was always "so that's what they teach you in med school, huh?" or "that was funded by Soros."

It's legit terrifying how fundamentally brainwashed they are.

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 11:55:34 AM
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I've had -

Patients demand not to be tested for COVID despite clearly having COVID
Patients physically assault me for not prescribing HCQ or Ivermectin
Patient families demand COVID not be listed on my Death Summary / as a cause of death
A patient leave AMA because he knew he was fine because the hospital was lying for money (with an SpO2 of 75% on room air), go home and die

All of this was deliberately spurred on by Trump and far-right commentators. I can't get over that it has been tolerated and promoted by people who obviously know better.

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TheOnionKnight
03/29/22 12:03:39 PM
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I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit. It sounds really frustrating and horrible.

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ThePieReborn
03/29/22 12:18:00 PM
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While I'm on the opposite end of the professional value spectrum as an attorney, I empathize with the frustration on having your education and expertise attacked by people who have absolutely no idea how things work.

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Heartomaton
03/29/22 12:20:39 PM
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MAGAts, eating away the flesh of the country.

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Derwood
03/29/22 12:23:46 PM
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These are the same people who bring their daughters to the abortion clinic and then scream at the abortion doctors for performing the very procedure they are there for.

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 12:26:54 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
While I'm on the opposite end of the professional value spectrum as an attorney, I empathize with the frustration on having your education and expertise attacked by people who have absolutely no idea how things work.

Attorneys deal with the same things (clients who think they know everything) and I'm sure you guys probably see it more often than even we do, considering the sample pool of potential clients.

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Ps2Twilight
03/29/22 12:28:02 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
While I'm on the opposite end of the professional value spectrum as an attorney, I empathize with the frustration on having your education and expertise attacked by people who have absolutely no idea how things work.

Indeed. Especially having to explain people how HIPAA and the First Amendment work.

Gets really tiring.

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 12:29:32 PM
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Ps2Twilight posted...
Indeed. Especially having to explain people how HIPAA works and the First Amendment work.

Gets really tiring.

I've had more than one patient tell me I had no right to ask them their vaccination status.

Me literally being their attending physician, mind you.

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gatorsPENSbucs
03/29/22 12:32:25 PM
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Sounds like every customer when you work retail, and its been going on well before trump was president.

Sorry your job isnt perfect?

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TheLiarParadox
03/29/22 12:34:30 PM
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I'm so sorry you have to put up with that.

I've had to deal with my MAGA brother recently. He's always had problems, even as a kid, but he's been insufferable the last few years. I tried to cut him out but family circumstances force me to be around him and it's really wearing on me. He's just one person though, so I'll consider myself lucky.

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 12:36:23 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sounds like every customer when you work retail, and its been going on well before trump was president.

Sorry your job isnt perfect?

Yeah but your customers don't die (and get staff sick) because they're being an ass

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ButteryMales
03/29/22 12:41:12 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sounds like every customer when you work retail, and its been going on well before trump was president.
Customer: Where's the cereal aisle?

Worker: It's aisle 8.

Customer: I'm going to aisle 5 and I really wanted bleach to drink. I expected you not to tell me.
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CableZL
03/29/22 12:49:08 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
Customer: Where's the cereal aisle?

Worker: It's aisle 8.

Customer: I'm going to aisle 5 and I really wanted bleach to drink. I expected you not to tell me.

Don't you know retail workers get paid more to not tell customers where the bleach is?

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 12:50:19 PM
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"I did my research"

Dude you literally don't even know what research is, and certainly wouldn't have the patience, knowledge or objectivity to actually perform it.


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Prestoff
03/29/22 12:53:33 PM
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Their "research" is confirmation bias from conspiracy websites that tend to lean right/libertarian.

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 12:56:22 PM
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Prestoff posted...
Their "research" is confirmation bias from conspiracy websites that tend to lean right/libertarian.

Worse than that, lately. They tend to be straight-up false propaganda networks like Gateway Pundit. And heaven help you if you try to point that out.

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hockeybub89
03/29/22 12:57:35 PM
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Why don't these assholes just not go to the hospital? They can't all be there against their will.

If someone knows everything, then why waste time going to a bunch of idiots who get paid to do a thing and telling them how to do it? Do it yourself.

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MrWingnut
03/29/22 12:59:22 PM
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I will never understand why they even go to the hospital. So many seem to actually believe that hospitals are intentionally killing people. Why go somewhere if you believe that? My guess is because once death seems imminent, it shakes them just enough to seek care, but not enough to make them sane. Crazy times.
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Tsuyoi3
03/29/22 1:00:10 PM
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Becoming paraplegic due to cancer made me understand and appreciate hospital staff, especially nurses and transport people.

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voldothegr8
03/29/22 1:07:00 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sounds like every customer when you work retail, and its been going on well before trump was president.

Sorry your job isnt perfect?

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DarkRoast
03/29/22 1:09:09 PM
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MrWingnut posted...
I will never understand why they even go to the hospital. So many seem to actually believe that hospitals are intentionally killing people. Why go somewhere if you believe that? My guess is because once death seems imminent, it shakes them just enough to seek care, but not enough to make them sane. Crazy times.

I've often wondered this and ultimately determined that it's a variant of "No Atheists in a Foxhole" in that these people love to play pretend badass until things actually go wrong and they're vulnerable.

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FigureOfSpeech
03/29/22 1:15:05 PM
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Weird pointless whataboutism from gators and voldo as expected.

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Bishop9800
03/29/22 1:22:04 PM
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FigureOfSpeech posted...
Weird pointless whataboutism from gators and voldo as expected.

No surprise there

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mybbqrules
03/29/22 1:32:34 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sounds like every customer when you work retail, and its been going on well before trump was president.

Sorry your job isnt perfect?
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Ruvan22
03/29/22 1:33:34 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sounds like every customer when you work retail, and its been going on well before trump was president.

Sorry your job isnt perfect?

A) How many retail jobs involve people literally living or dying based on the information they give you?
B) Is your metric "One thing is bad, the other is worse, but they are both the same"?

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Axiom
03/29/22 1:35:59 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sounds like every customer when you work retail, and its been going on well before trump was president.

Sorry your job isnt perfect?
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MrPeppers
03/29/22 1:37:14 PM
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This is why I'm glad all my patients are female, and most are pregnant and/or younger. My ex was a hospitalist and hearing the crap she dealt with on a weekly basis really made me thankful.

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Kingbuffet
03/29/22 1:40:23 PM
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So many of them died because they wanted to spite Democrats or "liberals" they even know their bodies and health aren't the type to survive COVID and still refused the vaccine because they thought saving lives meant helping Biden look good on TV, they legit have that mindset

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voldothegr8
03/29/22 1:41:55 PM
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So tell me TC do you question all your patients for political alignment or just assuming all the bad ones are Trumpers?

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MrPeppers
03/29/22 1:44:21 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
So tell me TC do you question all your patients for political alignment or just assuming all the bad ones are Trumpers?

They usually volunteer it. Trust me, even though we can tell they make sure we know, at least ever since the pandemic.

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b_nolan
03/29/22 1:45:04 PM
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FigureOfSpeech posted...
Weird pointless whataboutism from gators and voldo as expected.
They are still salty that Trump lost lol

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Skype
03/29/22 1:46:21 PM
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Pretty telling when TC talks about being verbally and physically abused by her patients the first reaction out of some folks is "But are they REALLY MAGAs?"

You guys should really hide your hurt feelings better.

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Unsuprised_Pika
03/29/22 1:46:30 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
I've had -

Patients demand not to be tested for COVID despite clearly having COVID
Patients physically assault me for not prescribing HCQ or Ivermectin
Patient families demand COVID not be listed on my Death Summary / as a cause of death
A patient leave AMA because he knew he was fine because the hospital was lying for money (with an SpO2 of 75% on room air), go home and die

All of this was deliberately spurred on by Trump and far-right commentators. I can't get over that it has been tolerated and promoted by people who obviously know better.

People who assault doctors should be expelled and denied care or be sedated for the duration of their stay regardless of their wishes.

Unless they clearly have severe mental disability or are suffering delerium/a psychotic break.

We mistreat out doctors badly and need to protect them. We are already hitting crisis levels of burnout.
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DarkRoast
03/29/22 1:47:11 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
So tell me TC do you question all your patients for political alignment or just assuming all the bad ones are Trumpers?

You don't have to question them. They tell you themselves, while Fox is blaring on their TV.

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Ruvan22
03/29/22 1:48:28 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
So tell me TC do you question all your patients for political alignment or just assuming all the bad ones are Trumpers?

So do you still feel it's just a "not perfect job"?
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Smackems
03/29/22 1:49:49 PM
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Isn't tc an Asian woman? I imagine that doesn't help matters with them

Apologies if I got that wrong. My memory is bad about users here

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Giant_Aspirin
03/29/22 1:51:01 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
they're almost impossibly insufferable over the smallest things and trust essentially nothing you say or do, often for seemingly no logical reason.

so don't treat them. give them what they want and let them eat horse paste.

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hockeybub89
03/29/22 1:53:21 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
So tell me TC do you question all your patients for political alignment or just assuming all the bad ones are Trumpers?
Democrats and leftists are well known for screaming far-right talking points after all...

Just like all those religious conservatives that are vocal supporters of trans rights.

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