Poll of the Day > Will Smith punched Chris Rock on stage at the Oscars.

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 4:24:25 AM
#102:


Gaawa_chan posted...
... Everyone has a line, where ribbing becomes bullying, and that line is different for each person. If you're going to ridicule someone, especially for their essential characteristics (their body/mind), you should not be surprised when someone lashes out.

I am not saying that it was justified necessarily, but I think a lot of people would have done the same thing, or worse, in Smith's place.
Seeing this and I don't quite get the rationale. Violence over a joke, especially a joke over something like baldness, isn't proportional.

I understand people agreeing with his actions, but I'll agree to disagree. I've experienced extreme verbal abuse, and I've experienced slaps. I can push back against verbal abuse. Physical abuse crosses a line for me. You can punch someone if they're a threat, but calling someone bald...not a threat.

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 4:25:42 AM
#103:


It's ESPECIALLY funny because Will is seen LAUGHING at the joke before it cuts away to show Chris again, and Will eventually approached him - so he changed his tune pretty quick lmfao.

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Kimbos_Egg
03/28/22 4:28:04 AM
#104:


and its even funnier when you realize young and up coming RnB singers tell him to his face that they fucked his wife (one even in his sons bedroom!) and he has nothing to say back. Yet the guy who's half his size? "Oh no let me get a piece of that!"

Small dick energy doesn't even begin to describe him.

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Adam_Savage
03/28/22 4:30:26 AM
#105:


Kimbos_Egg posted...


I have suffered with vitiligo since i was 7. Do you think i slapped everyone who's ever made a joke before? No. Know why?

Because i'm not a little fucking man baby.

Maybe one day you'll grow up and realize assaulting someone isn't the right way to go about things.

no you just sound like a fuckin wimp lmao

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Kimbos_Egg
03/28/22 4:31:10 AM
#106:


Adam_Savage posted...
no you just sound like a fuckin wimp lmao

and you sound like a tryhard shut in with no concept of reality outside of your house.

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Adam_Savage
03/28/22 4:35:08 AM
#107:


Kimbos_Egg posted...


and you sound like a tryhard shut in with no concept of reality outside of your house.

bold words coming from someone who is fine with just taking abuse

sitting there and taking shit doesn't make you a bigger person, it proves that you're just a pushover and it doesn't matter what someone does, since you're just going to sit there and take it

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MICHALECOLE
03/28/22 4:35:28 AM
#108:


Hey guys what do I sound like
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Gaawa_chan
03/28/22 4:40:25 AM
#109:


ReturnOfFa posted...
Seeing this and I don't quite get the rationale. Violence over a joke, especially a joke over something like baldness, isn't proportional.
I understand people agreeing with his actions, but I'll agree to disagree. I've
*shrug* You don't have to agree. Like I said, it's different for each person. I can tell you that if I had been in Smith's place, I would not have slapped Rock. I would have had to be dragged off of him. Probably doesn't help that I have relatives with auto-immune diseases, so it's not hard for me to picture.

I have a trigger at specific kinds of behavior which tends to stir up the temper that I inherited from my father. Verbal abuse designed to publicly humiliate, especially if it is directed as someone who is NOT me, sends me into a spitting rage. I think I have mentioned this before, but I once chased off a group of snot-nosed bullies who had surrounded my younger sibling with a shovel, and I'm pretty sure the only reason that I didn't end up in juvie for it was because I didn't succeed in hitting any of them with said shovel, not for lack of trying (it was too heavy, I could barely swing it).

This is not a statement on the ethics of it or anything.

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MICHALECOLE
03/28/22 4:48:36 AM
#110:


Gaawa_chan posted...
*shrug* You don't have to agree. Like I said, it's different for each person. I can tell you that if I had been in Smith's place, I would not have slapped Rock. I would have had to be dragged off of him. Probably doesn't help that I have relatives with auto-immune diseases, so it's not hard for me to picture.

I have a trigger at specific kinds of behavior which tends to stir up the temper that I inherited from my father. Verbal abuse designed to publicly humiliate, especially if it is directed as someone who is NOT me, sends me into a spitting rage. I think I have mentioned this before, but I once chased off a group of snot-nosed bullies who had surrounded my younger sibling with a shovel, and I'm pretty sure the only reason that I didn't end up in juvie for it was because I didn't succeed in hitting any of them with said shovel, not for lack of trying (it was too heavy, I could barely swing it).

This is not a statement on the ethics of it or anything.
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Okikurmi
03/28/22 4:58:20 AM
#111:


So after that one little fight do you think his mum got scared?

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 5:00:14 AM
#112:


Adam_Savage posted...
bold words coming from someone who is fine with just taking abuse

sitting there and taking shit doesn't make you a bigger person, it proves that you're just a pushover and it doesn't matter what someone does, since you're just going to sit there and take it
making fun of bald people is now abuse

do you recognize the irony here

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 5:03:32 AM
#113:


Gaawa_chan posted...
*shrug* You don't have to agree.
I...know that >_>, that's why I said...agree to disagree lmao.

with your bully story, that's a completely different situation involving a literal threat of violence against your sibling, not a bald joke. not the same. I understand and agree with your justification of action in that instance.

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 5:07:50 AM
#114:


also, justifying your own temper and lack of rationale through your parent's is annoying

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 5:08:48 AM
#115:


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Gaawa_chan
03/28/22 5:46:09 AM
#116:


ReturnOfFa posted...
also, justifying your own temper and lack of rationale through your parent's is annoying
Mental illnesses. My grandfather had them, and so do my uncles, at least one of my cousins... My siblings are also a bit fucked up though the older two seem to be a bit in denial about it. We have multiple heritable conditions in my family that I am not in the mood to elaborate on. It probably should have occurred to you that my use of the word inherited could be literal.

MICHALECOLE posted...
you when somebody makes a joke about your wife
Lol. It does depend, and I do typically have to already be in a particularly poor state of mind to react that badly, which is a point in my favor compared to some of my family members, unfortunately.

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MICHALECOLE
03/28/22 6:07:02 AM
#117:


Gaawa_chan posted...
Mental illnesses. My grandfather had them, and so do my uncles, at least one of my cousins... My siblings are also a bit fucked up though the older two seem to be a bit in denial about it. We have multiple heritable conditions in my family that I am not in the mood to elaborate on. It probably should have occurred to you that my use of the word inherited could be literal.

Lol. It does depend, and I do typically have to already be in a particularly poor state of mind to react that badly, which is a point in my favor compared to some of my family members, unfortunately.
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Krazy_Kirby
03/28/22 6:13:33 AM
#118:


teddy241 posted...
He bopped em. Assault. Criminal. Yet he goes on to accepting an oscar. Lol this is america.


if the victim doesn't press charges, they don't have an assault case

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Wanded
03/28/22 7:48:12 AM
#119:


ReturnOfFa posted...
Does...not seem staged.
what?
am i seeing something else?
seems hella staged lol

no one except some libs watches the oscars, their ratings have been sharply dropping each year for some time now and will smith is mostly a meme nowdays, they decided to stage this to spike rating and makes people take will a bit more seriously

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sodium-chloride
03/28/22 8:17:17 AM
#120:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
if the victim doesn't press charges, they don't have an assault case

Doesn't mean it's still not assault
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sodium-chloride
03/28/22 8:21:27 AM
#121:


Wanded posted...
what?
am i seeing something else?
seems hella staged lol

no one except some libs watches the oscars, their ratings have been sharply dropping each year for some time now and will smith is mostly a meme nowdays, they decided to stage this to spike rating and makes people take will a bit more seriously

Why the fuck would someone with his fame and reputation about to accept one of the biggest awards in his field throw that all away to help a network get more views?

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thekingoftown
03/28/22 8:34:28 AM
#122:


$$$

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Wanded
03/28/22 10:10:52 AM
#123:


sodium-chloride posted...
Why the fuck would someone with his fame and reputation about to accept one of the biggest awards in his field throw that all away to help a network get more views?

Shit take is a shit take
money?
also i like your naivety about how hollywood works, hollywood builds you up and hollywood can take you down, no one is irreplaceable, you do as you're told or you're out, where you gonna work? bollywood?lol

also also what reputation? the reputation of an actor who can't be diverse but can only play one role, that role being will smith? will smith has been mostly a meme for years now, they tried passing the torch to his son but that's flopping

also also also his reputation wasn't thrown, this event was constructed in such a way you can look at both sides with more appreciation if you want to, smith for standing up to his wife and rock for reacting like a pro joking right after

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Jen0125
03/28/22 10:32:35 AM
#124:


Disease? Doesn't alopecia just cause hair loss? Should people be punching comedians if they make jokes about bald men?

I thought Jada had been having her head shaved for years at this point. I didn't get the outrage.
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streamofthesky
03/28/22 10:37:08 AM
#125:


Jen0125 posted...
Disease? Doesn't alopecia just cause hair loss? Should people be punching comedians if they make jokes about bald men?

I thought Jada had been having her head shaved for years at this point. I didn't get the outrage.
Yes, it is.

I don't want to hear ANY of these fuckers ever make a joke about or laugh at a joke about a bald dude ever again.

Apparently natural hair loss is now SERIOUS BUSINESS and no laughing matter.

Even if it was due to chemo for cancer, I think a joke about it is fine and certainly not a reason to get violent. But it's literally just hair loss!
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HornedLion
03/28/22 10:38:36 AM
#126:


Jkd91 posted...
If anything is shows how sensitive people have got over even the smallest things, imagine attacking someone for a silly joke about yor wifes hair, its actually pathetic.

When I see comments like this it feels like the person is saying, I hope this doesnt become a trend because Id like to continue recklessly mouthing off with no risk.

I understand he may be wrong. It may be illegal. It may be detrimental to his career and rep. But despite all these things do YOU all understand that a slap, punch, etc., is a possibility?

With that said, after sleeping on this issue, Im kinda in the middle now. I went from, This was real. To maybe it was fake. The only thing keeping me from thinking its still real is Chris Rocks, That was uh the greatest night in the history of television. It kinda made sense but didnt. So that makes me think he really was feeling the effects of the slap and the adrenaline. Wouldnt happen if it was staged. He wouldve had a more appropriate line ready.

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KodyKeir
03/28/22 10:45:00 AM
#127:


Snake posted...
What if he didn't even know about her disease and thought it was a style choice?

Nah, Chris knew exactly what he was doing, he made the same joke in 2016 and Will told him to lay off back then.

Wanded posted...
they decided to stage this to spike rating

That's not how television works; either you were watching it or you weren't. Especially in this day and age where we have the internet to show us what just happened on live tv; people were not going to tune in to the Oscars because Will slapped Chris, they went online to ask "WTF just happened?"

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Revelation34
03/28/22 10:55:25 AM
#128:


The_Viscount posted...


Yeah, I feel like it *has* to be staged given that the Oscars are failing and they'll do anything for attention.

Because it was a slap, not a punch. Like nobody gets floored by a slap unless there's a hundred pounds difference or something.


You're not married.

Snake posted...


Again though, time and place. Do it backstage in private, make him apologize to Jada, whatever. Don't attack a comic in front of the world for making a joke that was meant to be in good fun. What if he didn't even know about her disease and thought it was a style choice? Not saying that was the case but still a possibility.

Confronting someone on being disrespectful is fine but to lash out in public like that was way too far. And I'm a longtime fan of Wills and will continue to be but this was absolutely the wrong way to handle it. Also there would have been kids watching this show and for Will to choose to display violence like this is so messed up.


Kids never fight after all.

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Muscles
03/28/22 10:55:25 AM
#129:


Lol you guys defending will are super insecure, those weren't fighting words, it was a joke, you know, something that shouldn't be taken seriously.

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streamofthesky
03/28/22 11:19:52 AM
#130:


LOL!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FO7-93DWQAcBnW9?format=jpg&name=900x900

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magemaximus
03/28/22 11:50:26 AM
#131:


https://youtu.be/SGmZRWb4aj0

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FrozenBananas
03/28/22 12:04:56 PM
#132:


Give me rent

Youll get your rent when you KEEP MY WIFES NAME OUT OF YOUR DAMN MOUTH

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 12:45:33 PM
#133:


Gaawa_chan posted...
Mental illnesses. My grandfather had them, and so do my uncles, at least one of my cousins... My siblings are also a bit fucked up though the older two seem to be a bit in denial about it. We have multiple heritable conditions in my family that I am not in the mood to elaborate on. It probably should have occurred to you that my use of the word inherited could be literal.
Is violence a heritable condition? My mom's cousin killed himself and his wife. Everyone has violence in their families. It's on you to break the cycle.

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 12:46:59 PM
#134:


Wanded posted...
what?
am i seeing something else?
seems hella staged lol

no one except some libs watches the oscars, their ratings have been sharply dropping each year for some time now and will smith is mostly a meme nowdays, they decided to stage this to spike rating and makes people take will a bit more seriously
why would something happening during it spike the ratings? pleb

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Jen0125
03/28/22 1:35:05 PM
#135:


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sodium-chloride
03/28/22 1:38:54 PM
#136:


ReturnOfFa posted...
why would something happening during it spike the ratings? pleb

Dude is a clown he has no idea what he's talking about lmao. Is he an icoyar alt?
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Wanded
03/28/22 1:39:27 PM
#137:


ReturnOfFa posted...
why would something happening during it spike the ratings? pleb
1.people hearing about it would tune in
2.people would consider watching the next time
3.not just ratings but overall interest in the oscars which recently became non existent

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sodium-chloride
03/28/22 1:45:43 PM
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From what I understand, Jada cheated on Will before the marriage was considered open. And by open, I mean Jada needed it and Will kind of went along with it or something. So I don't think it was an equally mutual decision. Jada is manipulative and just wants different dick and Will is kind of just hanging around.
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BlackScythe0
03/28/22 2:01:00 PM
#140:


Adam_Savage posted...
bold words coming from someone who is fine with just taking abuse

sitting there and taking shit doesn't make you a bigger person, it proves that you're just a pushover and it doesn't matter what someone does, since you're just going to sit there and take it

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 3:05:06 PM
#141:


Jen0125 posted...
Disease? Doesn't alopecia just cause hair loss? Should people be punching comedians if they make jokes about bald men?

I thought Jada had been having her head shaved for years at this point. I didn't get the outrage.
they're both ego-driven scientologists

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-will-and-jada-pinkett-smiths-scientology-school

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 3:06:08 PM
#142:


sodium-chloride posted...
From what I understand, Jada cheated on Will before the marriage was considered open. And by open, I mean Jada needed it and Will kind of went along with it or something. So I don't think it was an equally mutual decision. Jada is manipulative and just wants different dick and Will is kind of just hanging around.
Yeah, let's be real here. Polyamory is a-ok. Being incommunicative in a relationship isn't, and not communicating the 'open' status explicitly...lol

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Wanded
03/28/22 3:09:36 PM
#143:


ReturnOfFa posted...
they're both ego-driven scientologists
that cult still exists?
i thought southpark buried it

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 3:14:29 PM
#144:


Wanded posted...
that cult still exists?
i thought southpark buried it
that's only part of why participants should be embarrassed!

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BTH_Phoenix
03/28/22 3:21:58 PM
#145:


Man I remember back when Will Smith was the "well-adjusted family man" and Miley Cyrus was the wrecking ball lol

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Muscles
03/28/22 3:24:57 PM
#146:


ReturnOfFa posted...
Yeah, let's be real here. Polyamory is a-ok. Being incommunicative in a relationship isn't, and not communicating the 'open' status explicitly...lol
When you both want it is fine but it seems like it's more of a situation where she said she's gonna sleep around and he has to be ok with it and he just accepted that

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magemaximus
03/28/22 7:08:28 PM
#147:


i think she wants to sleep around but he doesn't. he loves her too much and so he is just fine with it because he doesn't want to lose her.

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Gaawa_chan
03/28/22 7:24:47 PM
#148:


MICHALECOLE posted...
Would you fight your wife if your wife made fun of herself
No, self-deprecation is not an issue in that respect.

ReturnOfFa posted...
Is violence a heritable condition? My mom's cousin killed himself and his wife. Everyone has violence in their families. It's on you to break the cycle.
Depends on the condition you're talking about.
Also, it is interesting that the same happened to my mother's uncle.
You're acting like I disagree with you. :-/

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ReturnOfFa
03/28/22 7:49:07 PM
#149:


Gaawa_chan posted...
No, self-deprecation is not an issue in that respect.

Depends on the condition you're talking about.
Also, it is interesting that the same happened to my mother's uncle.
You're acting like I disagree with you. :-/
Sorry, maybe I was reading too intensely at the time. I had said it's fair to agree to disagree lol. It is interesting we have similar experiences but different perspectives, and I respect that.

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ItsKaljinyuTime
03/28/22 8:13:03 PM
#150:


No no no, Will and Jada's relationship has been open for years and they both knew that. Will Smith has fucked just about every female opposite he's ever co-starred with.

I'm not saying the slap wasn't motivated in part by some insecurity about his marriage though. I'm pretty sure Will Smith is a selfish person. Rules for everyone else, but not for him.

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MICHALECOLE
03/28/22 8:44:33 PM
#151:


Gaawa_chan posted...
No, self-deprecation is not an issue in that respect.

Depends on the condition you're talking about.
Also, it is interesting that the same happened to my mother's uncle.
You're acting like I disagree with you. :-/
If your mom told your dad to insult your wife, and your dad insulted your wife but it was your moms words, would you fight your dad or your mom?
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