Current Events > Ohio becomes 23rd state to allow conceal carry without a permit.

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ChandlerLife
03/20/22 11:17:14 PM
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-becomes-latest-state-to-allow-concealed-gun-carry-without-a-permit/ar-AAV3EM0

Ohioans are no longer required to have a concealed carry permit for their firearms or undergo background checks, following the governor signing Republican-backed legislation.

Ohio Governor Mike DeWine signed a bill that eliminates a concealed carry permit requirement for Ohioans ages 21 and over who are legally eligible to own and carry a firearm in the state.

Senate Bill 215 will go into effect in 90 days and will remove permitting, training and background check requirements to carry a concealed weapon. Prior law required citizens to have eight hours of training, a background check and an application through their local sheriff.

New concealed carry law signed by Gov. DeWine allows anybody in Ohio tocarry a concealed weapon WITHOUT a permit. (unless you have certain prior criminal offenses). Senate Bill 215 Takes effect in 90 days...

...Other states allowing law-abiding citizens to a concealed handgun include Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi and Texas.

"Any right requiring a fee or government permission slip isn't much of a right at all. That's why the NRA worked tirelessly with state leaders and legislators to pass this landmark legislation in Ohio," said Jason Ouimet, NRA-ILA executive director. "The NRA commends Gov. DeWine for signing this important piece of legislation that protects the Second Amendment rights of all law-abiding Buckeyes."

The bill makes several changes to Ohio's concealed carry laws.

Citizens will no longer have the duty to "promptly" notify every law enforcement officer during an official stop. Instead, the person must disclose that they are carrying a concealed handgun only after an officer asks.

Until now, motorists during a traffic stop who failed to notify an officer that they had a gun faced a first-degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to six months in jail, a $1,000 fine and suspension of their concealed handgun license. Senate Bill 215 now eliminates that penalty.

The enactment of "constitutional carry" or "permitless carry" has been opposed by law enforcement and anti-gun violence activists during the approval process.

"Laws currently protect officers and the public they serve by requiring that those who go armed in public report the presence of loaded firearms, thereby including this awareness in any potentially dangerous situation," said Robin Hawkins member of the Ohio Veterans and Public Safety Committee. "Blindfolding officers and weighting the individual's right to carry loaded firearms with no restrictions makes everyone, especially those charged with public safety, less safe."

The bill also changes the law for carrying the license. For those citizens who do decide to obtain a permit, they will no longer be required to carry the license on their person.
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TMOG
03/20/22 11:18:29 PM
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Oh, cool.

Get me the fuck out of this state
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SSJKirby
03/20/22 11:19:42 PM
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ChandlerLife posted...
The bill also changes the law for carrying the license. For those citizens who do decide to obtain a permit, they will no longer be required to carry the license on their person.
that seems normal

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ChandlerLife
03/21/22 9:46:10 AM
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Bump
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Tyranthraxus
03/21/22 9:48:11 AM
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ChandlerLife posted...
The enactment of "constitutional carry" or "permitless carry" has been opposed by law enforcement and anti-gun violence activists during the approval process.

I honestly can't even Fathom how fucking crazy you have to be to piss both of these groups off

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Background_Guy
03/21/22 9:56:41 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States#/media/File%3ARight_to_Carry%2C_timeline.gif
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lww99
03/21/22 10:09:15 AM
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CCW laws were a joke anyway. I do think you should need a license to own a gun, personally. If you need a license to fish and to drive, you should need one for a gun.

But the old CCW law was seriously non existent anyway. It didnt cover weapon retention at all, and you need to be able to hit the broadside of a barn. Thats it.

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RchHomieQuanChi
03/21/22 10:10:06 AM
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Just one of a list of reasons to never go to Ohio

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MachineJaipur
03/21/22 10:13:53 AM
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ChandlerLife posted...
Citizens will no longer have the duty to "promptly" notify every law enforcement officer during an official stop. Instead, the person must disclose that they are carrying a concealed handgun only after an officer asks.
Oh this will end well.

Cops surely won't ask this question every single minority they see and surely won't immediately fear for their life when they say yes
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Naysaspace
03/21/22 10:13:57 AM
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Ohio is an old native american word for "poor white folk" -dave chappelle

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Solar_Crimson
03/21/22 10:16:30 AM
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There are less barriers to carry a gun than there are to drive in this country.

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ElleRagu
03/21/22 10:17:49 AM
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america is a nutty country

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ChandlerLife
03/21/22 10:19:43 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
There are less barriers to carry a gun than there are to drive in this country.


Its almost like one is a constitutional right while the other isnt.
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MachineJaipur
03/21/22 10:20:53 AM
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ChandlerLife posted...
Its almost like one is a constitutional right while the other isnt.
It's almost like one concept existed when America's Constitution was written and the other concept, if stated, would have gotten you burned at the stake as a witch at the time
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kinetika_
03/21/22 10:22:18 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
There are less barriers to carry a gun than there are to drive in this country.

I've had more close calls dying while out on the road than by a gun... and I live in Texas

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Tyrant_Shadow_1
03/21/22 10:22:24 AM
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Nice, too bad it'll never happen in my state.

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Background_Guy
03/21/22 10:22:42 AM
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MachineJaipur posted...
It's almost like one concept existed when America's Constitution was written and the other concept, if stated, would have gotten you burned at the stake as a witch at the time
It didn't become a constitutional right until 2008

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
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Giant_Aspirin
03/21/22 10:24:15 AM
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all this permit did was provide a barrier of entry for the poor. it was nothing more than a "pay a fee to receive a card" -- there was no education, or testing done prior to receiving the permit.

and i say this as someone who doesn't really care for guns.

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Tyrant_Shadow_1
03/21/22 10:24:24 AM
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Background_Guy posted...
It didn't become a constitutional right until 2008

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

It was always a constitutional right, Heller vs DC just clarified that the right to bear arms is in fact an individual right as it has always been. People in America have owned guns as individuals since the declaration of independence.

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Jagr_68
03/21/22 10:24:53 AM
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Yeeeeeehaw

Pew pew pew pew pew pew

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Background_Guy
03/21/22 10:26:24 AM
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Tyrant_Shadow_1 posted...
Heller vs DC just decided that the right to bear arms is in fact an individual right despite two centuries of rulings stating otherwise

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Tyrant_Shadow_1
03/21/22 10:28:41 AM
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Background_Guy posted...
Heller vs DC just decided that the right to bear arms is in fact an individual right despite two centuries of rulings stating otherwise

Such as?

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Background_Guy
03/21/22 10:58:22 AM
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Tyrant_Shadow_1 posted...


Such as?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presser_v._Illinois
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silveira_v._Lockyer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Cruikshank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Miller
https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/83-p-619-kan-613255331
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/153/535/
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/165/275
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/131/916/1511728/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/131/261/1511906/
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Tyrant_Shadow_1
03/21/22 11:11:38 AM
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Background_Guy posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presser_v._Illinois
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silveira_v._Lockyer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Cruikshank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Miller
https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/83-p-619-kan-613255331
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/153/535/
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/165/275
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/131/916/1511728/
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/131/261/1511906/

I'll hopefully provide you a more proper response when I get off, but I will say you definitely got me here and even managed to show me a couple of cases I didn't even know about, so thanks.

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ImSadTails
03/21/22 11:33:54 PM
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Congratulations Ohio!

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TMOG
03/22/22 9:49:01 AM
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ImSadTails posted...
Congratulations Ohio!
How many accounts are you going to go through before you learn to take even the most obvious of hints
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Dark_Spiret
03/22/22 10:12:46 AM
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TMOG posted...
Oh, cool.

Get me the fuck out of this state
not gonna be very many states to get out of eventually. the whole country is moving towards this with Indiana also just signing it into law. now literally half the country is constitutional carry with states that are surounded by it are most likely going to cave in their own ways to avoid potential problems.
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SweetieBeIle462
03/22/22 10:17:34 AM
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TMOG posted...
Oh, cool.

Get me the fuck out of this state

Let me in, it would be a significant upgrade to NM

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