Current Events > Imagine coping and seething about The Last Jedi for 5 years

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imagine them flying now

It wasn't that bad

it's okay to not like the movie

They fly now?

So of course when the movies came along and shat in the face of its fans, people had a right to be mad

Why is coping bad? What is the alternative, not coping? Being perpetually agitated?
Twitch speak sucks so much.

moving on

I personally wasnt one of these people but I can see why people are mad when they do stuff like let them suicide bomb with hyper drive and dismiss established lore.

Some how, Palpatine has returned.

This is a series where Vader can choke people to death over a zoom video call but no one ever questions the implications of how useful an ability like that would actually be because it's a space opera where the logistics of how things work doesn't actually matter.

It's a fantasy series that doesn't really have the consistent logic that people pretend it does. It's a series where people fight each other with laser swords because of fate and destiny. It's often silly nonsense which is fine.

People should maybe grow up lol

I am still fucking mad. Star Wars had a black lead and they flushed him down the pipe for Edward Cullen .

Some things don't makes sense but if you maintain the bizarre logic within its universe then it's not odd.

Making ships able to bypass Shields by utilizing hyperdrive is a load of crock. Otherwise there'd be no reason to have large ships with energy shrugs because hyperdrive suicide ships would be dominant. It would become a race to see who can invent the smallest and cheapest ship that can utilize hyperdrive. Okay who's the Einstein can invent hyperdrive on a missile now?

It's time to say you basically can't have boundaries within a fictional universe. Well it's a Fantasyland might as well have flying hot dogs and celestial bodies that can get pregnant.

i wonder when/if the discourse for this movie will be normal.

The most damage The Last Jedi did to Star Wars was in failing.

I wasn't a fan of it but surely everybody agrees that no matter how bad they think it is, compared to the film that came afterwards it's amazing?

suicide bomb with hyper drive and dismiss established lore.

The film that came afterwards badness can be traced right back down the TLJ.
There was no big villain that the used. Finn progression was stopped, the good guys were down to 25 people. And the universe told them to fuck off. Yeah and Luke was dead.

Besides if you want to go down that route you should blame TFA because you can trace the shit of TLJ back to it.

Besides if you want to go down that route you should blame TFA because you can trace the shit of TLJ back to it.

Naw not really. I can't stand JJ for always leaving people to fill in the blanks but there good places to after TFA.

For example take blowing up SKB, that literally had no impact on anything else at all. They blow up the main base, and then the FO took over , and was ruling everything just about to take out the "Rebels" .

Kylo taking an interest in both Finn and Rey. Gone

And that is just two things.

There was no big villain that the used.

The confused, contradictory state of galactic politics in TFA left no real way to broaden the world building without frustrating the audience.

The decision to keep Luke out of the movie forced Johnson to come up with a reason why, which was always gonna suck.

The ending almost guaranteed that a time skip was out of the question.

JJ making a big deal out of the mystery of Rey's parents forced Johnson to address that as well.

JJ gave Johnson a nothing villain with no real personality, backstory, or motives, where the best thing to do was kill him off unceremoniously.

Yeah the things you mentioned are dumb and Johnson's fault, and there are plenty more of those. But the ST was a cavalcade of bad decisions starting with Iger, and you can't pass the buck down the line without passing it to the very beginning imo.

It's always so dumb when people say this. Yes, there clearly was. It's Kylo. Even in The Force Awakens, Kylo was the most immediate threat.

I don't get how people can straight-faced say that there was nowhere to go after TLJ, when they literally failed to defeat the unhinged, highly destructive ticking time bomb with unopposed control of an entire military fleet at his disposal.

Of course, none of that played out because JJ Abrams decided to retread Return of the Jedi.

We could have all of this addressed in a more cohesive manner if Rian Johnson simply doesn't head Episode 8.

You'll get no argument from me there. But we could have had a better episode 7 if Iger hadn't insisted on a rush job to make the Christmas 2015 slot.

It's bad decisions all the way down.