Current Events > Elden Ring Isn't Made for All Gamers. I Wish It Were

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Don't people ever get tired of complaining about the lack of difficulty levels in these games?

The answer is no, of course not.

Yeah shame it was made only for Chads and Charlottes

Okay

I think it would be easy to program in a mode where enemies do 50% less damage while they do 50% more damage TO enemies.

idk, i'm pretty bad at video games and i've beaten all Soulsborne games so far w/o summoning help. it just takes practice and patience.

But FromSoftwares insistence on keeping the game nearly impossible for non-elite players feels foolhardy.

ok, the author is just being dramatic. i am hardly an "elite" player and i can do it. like, when i play CoD i am normally like 1-10 because i am bad. i'm also always high when i play video games and i beat Sekiro and Bloodborne. author just needs some patience and practice.

It is hilarious how they have made this their big moral crusade after the whole gaming journalists being shit at games thing happened.

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I think it would be easy to program in a mode where enemies do 50% less damage while they do 50% more damage TO enemies.

Isn't this what modders are for

Fixing the devs mistakes?

Making things for "all gamers" (aka appealing to the lowest common denominator) is why video games fell into the watered down samey quagmire that plagues the industry.

ThePrinceFish posted...

Making things for "all gamers" (aka appealing to the lowest common denominator) is why video games fell into the watered down samey quagmire that plagues the industry.

"If you try to appeal to everybody, you'll end up appealing to nobody."

Ill take first world problems that dont merit an article about for 500 please

A game made for everyone probably hasn't been a thing since pong and tetris. Plus, needing a game made for everyone screams entitlement over a stadium sound system.

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I think it would be easy to program in a mode where enemies do 50% less damage while they do 50% more damage TO enemies.

Whats with people thinking making a change to a game is as easy as pressing a few buttons?

im terrible at video games
im married with 4 kids and work at least 50 hrs a week
i didnt learn a single boss fight in elden ring
i tried them once then summoned help or my mimic if i lost
i platinumed the game in less than two weeks
shit is literally as hard as you want it to be. you can be carried by other people through the entire game

Elden Ring has an easy mode

It's called "grind the hell outta the starting region to keep outleveling the game"

LightHawKnight posted...

Whats with people thinking making a change to a game is as easy as pressing a few buttons?

not to mention it's an online multiplayer game wherein difficulty scaling would directly affect contributors and opponents

Somehow I doubt anyone from from will lose sleep over this guy's non playing of his elden ring copy, nor the lost sales from not having an easy mode, especially with their recent raises

LightHawKnight posted...

Whats with people thinking making a change to a game is as easy as pressing a few buttons?

Right. That would literally throw off the whole balance they put a lot of time in and just tank reviews because of how sloppy it was applied. The reviews being lowered over it would turn off more new comers than not having an easy mode. Most of the people behind wanting an easy mode would of tanked From Soft years ago if they had creative control.

What's the more difficult game Elden Ring or Doom Eternal Nightmare difficulty on console

Can people come to grips with the fact that you typically have to fail before you succeed?

trappedunderice posted...

What's the more difficult game Elden Ring or Doom Eternal Nightmare difficulty on console

Nightmare mode without even having the break it down. Elden Ring's difficulty is more about people refusing to learn how to play it. As to where Doom on Nightmare will make you cry even if you played FPS's your whole life

Unknown5uspect posted...

Can people come to grips with the fact that you typically have to fail before you succeed?

No. If you don't succeed the first time, it means you're a LOSER who will never amount to anything.
:P

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Patch 1.03 did make adjustments to atleast 2 bosses. Radahn for example. I first noticed this while watching a streamer and seeing him dodge projectiles while on the horse that didnt seem possible for me lol.. Another example is godskin duo fight with the added optional NPC summon.

So im sure FS could add an easy mode if they wanted.

Thoughts?

Grind some souls and get OP and go fight the stuff again.

But for real, there's games that we just can't play because of our abilities. I have tried to get into various MOBA games and have given up. I don't want to put all the attention to detail on it that is getting last strikes on enemies or worry that because I died I just fed the other team some more strength. It's just not for me. I don't bitch or complain or ask them to change how the game is played.

This will likely never happen. But I dont want the people who are hostile to casual gamers, who use that as an insult to keep people out of the discussion, to control the narrative about gaming. Elden Ring isnt for me, and thats OK. But Im still a gamer, and this hill is one on which Im perfectly happy to meet a quick death.

Do they think From Software hasn't heard people say "ADD AN EASY MODE" over and over and over again? You aren't kept out of the conversation. What is happening is the creator (Some might say artist) is saying "that's fine, my work isn't for everyone but I don't want to add one."

FromSoftware doesnt care about all gamers, when has big businesses ever cared about the challenged little guy? Businesses would rather cater to Chad than the many Brads of the world

Unknown5uspect posted...

Can people come to grips with the fact that you typically have to fail before you succeed?

Seriously, I play easy or story mode on most other games and Elden Ring doesn't bug me at all.

"Tough but fair" sums it up nicely

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I think it would be easy to program in a mode where enemies do 50% less damage while they do 50% more damage TO enemies.

You can achieve more defense and damage by simply leveling up...

Ratchetrockon posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/4/AAZsuhAADCu4.jpg

Patch 1.03 did make adjustments to atleast 2 bosses. Radahn for example. I first noticed this while watching a streamer and seeing him dodge projectiles with the horse that didnt seem possible for me lol.. Another example is godskin duo fight with the added optional NPC summon.

So im sure FS could add an easy mode if they wanted.

Thoughts?

Id argue that just goes to show how hard balancing games are. And everyone is asking for them to do all the work of balancing their games twice, against their own creative decisions. Like I said, if they don't, the reviews from people who play on easy will tank the score and make interested newcomers less interested.

I remember the days when a game was released and that was that. No patches or "rebalancing" or anything.

If the game had a severe enough bug or oversight, it might get a revision, but that also takes work and people will still end up with the earlier version.

HylianFox posted...

I remember the days when a game was released and that was that. No patches or "rebalancing" or anything.

If the game had a severe enough bug or oversight, it might get a revision, but that also takes work and people will still end up with the earlier version.

Im pretty sure I haven't updated Elden Ring since release and it's completely fine. I play completely offline and my ps5 isn't automatically connected to internet, since I been using a Ethernet cord for my tv. The things people want changed usually don't bother me. Im not looking for reasons to complain.

BTW I'm not saying they should make a new mode. I feel it would be easier than trying to create an entire new difficulty mode.

Make it an item that says "Easy Mode" and you get 50% more max health until you die.

If only life had adjustable difficulty settings.

Others have already pointed out why the game isn't that hard unless you choose to keep it ultra hard. This is such a stupid argument.

It's a complicated stressful mess with a shitty super limited open world. I don't know why people like it.

In my experience with ER, the difficulty has far less to do with damage dealt/received and far more to do with learning boss patterns. Most trash mobs don't mean shit unless you're deliberately careless or get swarmed, the real challenge is bosses. There's no good way to dumb them down unless you either reduce their damage by like 90% or eliminate their attack patterns entirely. There's just no good way to implement "easy mode." It would take completely reworking and rebalancing all the bosses.

LeoRavus posted...

It's a complicated stressful mess with a shitty super limited open world. I don't know why people like it.

Limited? I can't think of a game with more freedom except maybe Breath of the World. But this has so much more in terms of things to actually find vs just breakable weapons, korok seeds and shrines.

bsp77 posted...

Limited? I can't think of a game with more freedom except maybe Breath of the World. But this has so much more in terms of things to actually find vs just breakable weapons, korok seeds and shrines.

botw also has those costumes with special effects. like the climbing costume that was my fave because it reduced stamina cost for climbing allowing players to dyno their way up most things instead of having to do it slowly =]

Ratchetrockon posted...

botw also has those costumes with special effects. like the climbing costume that was my fave because it reduced stamina cost for climbing =]

I really liked BotW, but it started to seem that the world was barren. I feel like Elden Ring is the evolution of Dark Souls x Breath of the Wild.

I also played Horizon Forbidden West right before this, and despite its strengths, the side quest stuff is all cookie cutter completionist stuff. Getting so tired of the maps with a gazillion icons.

I wish games were made for less people. Maybe so many wouldn't suck.

Kolibri X posted...

I wish games were made for less people. Maybe so many wouldn't suck.

Church. We'd end up with more Ubisoft stype games and less Rockstar/From Soft games. The games that aren't for everyone, like RDR2 and Soulsborne always end up my favorites. And some people's favorites are heavily anime influenced. Which isn't what draws me. So when I like the mechanics and gameplay of heavily Anime influenced games but the story/characters aren't holding my attention, I'm not thinking "They should make this game less like Anime to appeal to more people like me".

bsp77 posted...

I really liked BotW, but it started to seem that the world was barren. I feel like Elden Ring is the evolution of Dark Souls x Breath of the Wild.

I also played Horizon Forbidden West right before this, and despite its strengths, the side quest stuff is all cookie cutter completionist stuff. Getting so tired of the maps with a gazillion icons.

For me, Elden ring is way more addictive. I just started another playthrough on a fresh character a few days ago and feel i can put in another 100 hours (altho I'll admit I did feel burnt out after my 3rd playthrough on the same character, but mainly because I was overpowered af at that point). For BOTW after I had collected all the costumes (which required visiting all the shrines) I never fully replayed it again. I did attempt to do another full playthrough 4 diff times but just stopped shortly after leaving the started island. I guess the sense of wonder disappeared for me.

While my sense of wonder for Elden Ring has mostly disappeared as well (still some catacombs I haven't discovered I'm sure) the combat system is the main reason why I'm still playing. Same reason why I played DMC 3 for years despite it having a short single-player campaign.

bsp77 posted...

Limited? I can't think of a game with more freedom except maybe Breath of the World. But this has so much more in terms of things to actually find vs just breakable weapons, korok seeds and shrines.

Can't climb. Can't swim. Why are people nutting over this limited open world

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

I think it would be easy to program in a mode where enemies do 50% less damage while they do 50% more damage TO enemies.

already pc mods

LeoRavus posted...

Can't climb. Can't swim. Why are people nutting over this limited open world

Since you called it complicated and stressful, I am guessing you have barely played it

LeoRavus posted...

Can't climb. Can't swim. Why are people nutting over this limited open world

You definitely climb, it's just that there's not a dedicated mechanic for it. Which I personally love. It gives you that tense feeling that you could mess up the precision of a jump and fall to your death. It's more appealing to me than the tense coming from wondering if a bar is gonna empty before you slowly climb to the top. Instead of a prolonged less involved tension, it's tension comes from every single little movement you make

OVERGOATED posted...

posting at the start of a 100+ post topic

halfway there