Current Events > I dislike the pairing of Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn.

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Slayer_22 03/16/22 4:55:19 AM #1:	I never got it's popularity, besides being two hot women. It feels like a major step back for Poison Ivy, who loses a lot of her character's individuality as well as backtracks on a lot of the writing she originally was brought up on(her love for Bats was a major plot point in comics, for various reasons). It only seems to really benefit Harley character and story wise, and doesn't seem like it's absolutely necessary or needed. Hell, Harley has much better opportunities beyond just Joker, which seems to be what most people are trying to get her to move on from. Idk, not a fan of it. Pair Ivy with Swamp Thing and Harley with Red Hood or something, would probably be better than Ivy and Harley. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963487883] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I never got it's popularity, besides being two hot women. It feels like a major step back for Poison Ivy, who loses a lot of her character's individuality as well as backtracks on a lot of the writing she originally was brought up on(her love for Bats was a major plot point in comics, for various reasons). It only seems to really benefit Harley character and story wise, and doesn't seem like it's absolutely necessary or needed. Hell, Harley has much better opportunities beyond just Joker, which seems to be what most people are trying to get her to move on from. Idk, not a fan of it. Pair Ivy with Swamp Thing and Harley with Red Hood or something, would probably be better than Ivy and Harley.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 03/16/22 4:57:06 AM #2:	but dey hot --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:963487901] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>but dey hot </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 5:01:35 AM #3:	Guide posted... but dey hot That seems to be the only argument fans of those two have tbh. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963487944] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>Guide posted...</cite> <quote>but dey hot </quote> That seems to be the only argument fans of those two have tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 03/16/22 5:03:46 AM #4:	They're also basically entirely different characters from the Ivy and Harley you describe, but hey, these new characters have worked well. It's not like the old ones are dead, character representation has been cycling for decades now. You'll get classic pinup Ivy back sooner or later. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:963487967] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>They're also basically entirely different characters from the Ivy and Harley you describe, but hey, these new characters have worked well. It's not like the old ones are dead, character representation has been cycling for decades now. You'll get classic pinup Ivy back sooner or later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 5:04:18 AM #5:	her love for Bats was a major plot point in comics, for various reasons What? Are you thinking of Catwoman here? --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963487972] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>her love for Bats was a major plot point in comics, for various reasons What? Are you thinking of Catwoman here? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 03/16/22 5:14:06 AM #6:	spikethedevil posted... her love for Bats was a major plot point in comics, for various reasons What? Are you thinking of Catwoman here? Yeah, no clue as to what he's going on about there. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:963488074] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>her love for Bats was a major plot point in comics, for various reasons What? Are you thinking of Catwoman here?</quote> Yeah, no clue as to what he's going on about there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 5:24:40 AM #7:	spikethedevil posted... her love for Bats was a major plot point in comics, for various reasons What? Are you thinking of Catwoman here? Ivy's original comics involved her being into Batman specifically because he is...well, Batman, and she was into him. From her very first appearance. Her whole point as a character was creating love potions to try and make him fall for her. However, in her Origins book, it was revealed she had grown a bit obsessed with him. See, Batman is the only person she was unable to control with her pheromones. Over the years, Ivy's shown that she considers Batman to love her(in a 97 book, he takes a bullet for her, she sees this as undying love), and that she loves Batman. Apparently in Batman Annual #3(I did not know this) from '95, he admits he finds her more appealing than Catwoman. That's a weird one but okay. And pulling this one off Wikipedia because again, I didn't know this one: In Detective Comics (vol. 2) #14 (January 2013), Ivy kisses Batman, trying to gain control over him via her toxins, and saying, You're the only one for me Batman, you know that right? Nobody else even comes close. Not anybody. Ivy's always been entagled with Bats, Harley and Ivy is relatively knew in comparison. Edit: do note, I'm not blaming anyone for not knowing this. 70+ years of comics and it's fair to not know these things lol. Guide posted... They're also basically entirely different characters from the Ivy and Harley you describe, but hey, these new characters have worked well. It's not like the old ones are dead, character representation has been cycling for decades now. You'll get classic pinup Ivy back sooner or later. The hell are you talking about exactly? I'm talking about the general incarnations of them that are present New-52 and in various media. They're the same as I describe. Are you okay? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963488162] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>her love for Bats was a major plot point in comics, for various reasons What? Are you thinking of Catwoman here? </quote> Ivy's original comics involved her being into Batman specifically because he is...well, Batman, and she was into him. From her very first appearance. Her whole point as a character was creating love potions to try and make him fall for her. However, in her Origins book, it was revealed she had grown a bit obsessed with him. See, Batman is the only person she was unable to control with her pheromones. Over the years, Ivy's shown that she considers Batman to love her(in a 97 book, he takes a bullet for her, she sees this as undying love), and that she loves Batman. Apparently in Batman Annual #3(I did not know this) from '95, he admits he finds her more appealing than Catwoman. That's a weird one but okay. And pulling this one off Wikipedia because again, I didn't know this one: <quote>In Detective Comics (vol. 2) #14 (January 2013), Ivy kisses Batman, trying to gain control over him via her toxins, and saying, You're the only one for me Batman, you know that right? Nobody else even comes close. Not anybody.</quote> Ivy's always been entagled with Bats, Harley and Ivy is relatively knew in comparison. Edit: do note, I'm not blaming anyone for not knowing this. 70+ years of comics and it's fair to not know these things lol. Guide posted...</cite> <quote>They're also basically entirely different characters from the Ivy and Harley you describe, but hey, these new characters have worked well. It's not like the old ones are dead, character representation has been cycling for decades now. You'll get classic pinup Ivy back sooner or later. </quote> The hell are you talking about exactly? I'm talking about the general incarnations of them that are present New-52 and in various media. They're the same as I describe. Are you okay?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 5:26:56 AM #8:	New* Huh interesting. Ivy and Harley have been teamed up for almost 30 years now and theyre just a fun pairing and when written well play off each other very well. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963488184] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>New* Huh interesting. Ivy and Harley have been teamed up for almost 30 years now and theyre just a fun pairing and when written well play off each other very well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 03/16/22 5:31:06 AM #9:	Well, theyre hot, so --- Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds, along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest... is silence. <cite>rexcrk posted [p:963488218] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote> Well, theyre hot, so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 5:32:47 AM #10:	spikethedevil posted... New* Huh interesting. Ivy and Harley have been teamed up for almost 30 years now and theyre just a fun pairing and when written well play off each other very well. Yeah, that's why I was saying 'relatively'. Their first 'official' pairing is during Gotham City Sirens which debuted in 2009. So I was more saying in the context of almost 70 years compared to a relatively shorter and less actively shown 13. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963488232] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>New* Huh interesting. Ivy and Harley have been teamed up for almost 30 years now and theyre just a fun pairing and when written well play off each other very well. </quote> Yeah, that's why I was saying 'relatively'. Their first 'official' pairing is during Gotham City Sirens which debuted in 2009. So I was more saying in the context of almost 70 years compared to a relatively shorter and less actively shown 13.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 5:33:35 AM #11:	Slayer_22 posted... Yeah, that's why I was saying 'relatively'. Their first 'official' pairing is during Gotham City Sirens which debuted in 2009. So I was more saying in the context of almost 70 years compared to a relatively shorter and less actively shown 13. Animated Series episode Harley and Ivy is their first official pairing. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963488242] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, that's why I was saying 'relatively'. Their first 'official' pairing is during Gotham City Sirens which debuted in 2009. So I was more saying in the context of almost 70 years compared to a relatively shorter and less actively shown 13.</quote> Animated Series episode Harley and Ivy is their first official pairing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 5:36:00 AM #12:	spikethedevil posted... Animated Series episode Harley and Ivy is their first official pairing. There was no real romantic implications that I could see in that episode. In fact, BTAS had more hints at Bats and Harley than Harley and Ivy, funny enough. It was their first official team-up though! Which is definitely noteworthy, but not every team-up is destined to be romantic. Otherwise we'd have Cable x Deadpool or Spidey x Wolverine by now lol. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963488264] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote> Animated Series episode Harley and Ivy is their first official pairing. </quote> There was no real romantic implications that I could see in that episode. In fact, BTAS had more hints at Bats and Harley than Harley and Ivy, funny enough. It was their first official team-up though! Which is definitely noteworthy, but not every team-up is destined to be romantic. Otherwise we'd have Cable x Deadpool or Spidey x Wolverine by now lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 5:41:53 AM #13:	You only just mentioned the romance side of things being your issue for some reason so nice goal post moving. Theyre great in the Harley Quinn animated series btw. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963488318] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>You only just mentioned the romance side of things being your issue for some reason so nice goal post moving. Theyre great in the Harley Quinn animated series btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 5:45:01 AM #14:	spikethedevil posted... You only just mentioned the romance side of things being your issue for some reason so nice goal post moving. Theyre great in the Harley Quinn animated series btw. I haven't seen that. Is it good? And I'm not moving a goal post. Why tf are you being so aggressive with this conversation? I had no goal posts, I'm just clarifying a simple statement(use of telatively) and clarifying that I meant pairing as...you know, romantic pairing. If we're talking team-ups, that's a different story. But this topic is about romance, so the implication really didn't need to be said. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963488342] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted...</cite> <quote>You only just mentioned the romance side of things being your issue for some reason so nice goal post moving. Theyre great in the Harley Quinn animated series btw. </quote> I haven't seen that. Is it good? And I'm not moving a goal post. Why tf are you being so aggressive with this conversation? I had no goal posts, I'm just clarifying a simple statement(use of telatively) and clarifying that I meant pairing as...you know, romantic pairing. If we're talking team-ups, that's a different story. But this topic is about romance, so the implication really didn't need to be said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 03/16/22 5:45:37 AM #15:	Go watch the Harley Quinn cartoon and come back to this topic. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:963488346] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>Go watch the Harley Quinn cartoon and come back to this topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 5:48:34 AM #16:	SuperShake666 posted... Go watch the Harley Quinn cartoon and come back to this topic. I highly doubt my opinion will change. That's like telling me to go read Batman: White Knight and saying a non-main universe continuity interpretation will change my mind. I love Batman and Harley in that comic. They do not and would not work in any other continuity of the mainline Batman comics, tbh. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963488365] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>SuperShake666 posted...</cite> <quote>Go watch the Harley Quinn cartoon and come back to this topic. </quote> I highly doubt my opinion will change. That's like telling me to go read Batman: White Knight and saying a non-main universe continuity interpretation will change my mind. I love Batman and Harley in that comic. They do not and would not work in any other continuity of the mainline Batman comics, tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 03/16/22 5:53:18 AM #17:	The Harley Quinn cartoon does at least deal with one of your complaints. It's shown that Ivy used to be lonely, miserable, and completely misanthropic. Her friendship with Harley made her realize that there are some humans who have value and made her far more well adjusted. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:963488398] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>The Harley Quinn cartoon does at least deal with one of your complaints. It's shown that Ivy used to be lonely, miserable, and completely misanthropic. Her friendship with Harley made her realize that there are some humans who have value and made her far more well adjusted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 5:55:03 AM #18:	pegusus123456 posted... The Harley Quinn cartoon does at least deal with one of your complaints. It's shown that Ivy used to be lonely, miserable, and completely misanthropic. Her friendship with Harley made her realize that there are some humans who have value and made her far more well adjusted. That is definitely a neat take. Tbh the only clip I saw was Harley shooting someone with a cancer gun, but I got no idea how to even watch it soI decided against it lol. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963488420] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>The Harley Quinn cartoon does at least deal with one of your complaints. It's shown that Ivy used to be lonely, miserable, and completely misanthropic. Her friendship with Harley made her realize that there are some humans who have value and made her far more well adjusted. </quote> That is definitely a neat take. Tbh the only clip I saw was Harley shooting someone with a cancer gun, but I got no idea how to even watch it soI decided against it lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 03/16/22 5:55:41 AM #19:	It's on HBO Max nowadays. Used to be on DC Universe. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:963488424] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>It's on HBO Max nowadays. Used to be on DC Universe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 5:57:51 AM #20:	pegusus123456 posted... It's on HBO Max nowadays. Used to be on DC Universe. Guessing the latter got dissolved? Yeah, that was what I always assumed it to be on but didn't have enough interest to actually want to subscribe to watch. Being on HBO Max though...was considering getting it tbh. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963488443] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted...</cite> <quote>It's on HBO Max nowadays. Used to be on DC Universe. </quote> Guessing the latter got dissolved? Yeah, that was what I always assumed it to be on but didn't have enough interest to actually want to subscribe to watch. Being on HBO Max though...was considering getting it tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 6:07:57 AM #21:	Had to import the DVDs as the UK got screwed unfortunately. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963488543] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>Had to import the DVDs as the UK got screwed unfortunately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 03/16/22 7:13:48 AM #22:	I think people like the dynamic of a lesbian couple where one is serious and uptight and has more of harshness to them, and the other is girly, and flirty, and playful, and a little crazy. I'm not sure if it's just something dudes like, or if actual gay/lesbian people like the idea dyanmic, but I do think it's like a known trope. And Harley/Ivy is like an iconic example of that. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif <cite>joe40001 posted [p:963489218] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I think people like the dynamic of a lesbian couple where one is serious and uptight and has more of harshness to them, and the other is girly, and flirty, and playful, and a little crazy. I'm not sure if it's just something dudes like, or if actual gay/lesbian people like the idea dyanmic, but I do think it's like a known trope. And Harley/Ivy is like an iconic example of that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 7:23:07 AM #23:	joe40001 posted... I think people like the dynamic of a lesbian couple where one is serious and uptight and has more of harshness to them, and the other is girly, and flirty, and playful, and a little crazy. I'm not sure if it's just something dudes like, or if actual gay/lesbian people like the idea dyanmic, but I do think it's like a known trope. And Harley/Ivy is like an iconic example of that. Not really. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963489321] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>I think people like the dynamic of a lesbian couple where one is serious and uptight and has more of harshness to them, and the other is girly, and flirty, and playful, and a little crazy. I'm not sure if it's just something dudes like, or if actual gay/lesbian people like the idea dyanmic, but I do think it's like a known trope. And Harley/Ivy is like an iconic example of that.</quote> Not really. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/16/22 7:28:19 AM #24:	I think it's a shame to make them lesbians nothing against gay couples but I hate how in media (except Scrubs for some reason, ) the notion that two people of the Same sex can't love each other without fucking is alien. And it gets dull. They're a more interesting duo as friends --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:963489380] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I think it's a shame to make them lesbians nothing against gay couples but I hate how in media (except Scrubs for some reason, ) the notion that two people of the Same sex can't love each other without fucking is alien. And it gets dull. They're a more interesting duo as friends </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 7:31:32 AM #25:	UnfairRepresent posted... I think it's a shame to make them lesbians nothing against gay couples but I hate how in media (except Scrubs for some reason, ) the notion that two people of the Same sex can't love each other without fucking is alien. And it gets dull. They're a more interesting duo as friends Any other examples of same sex people cant just be friends? Also theyre bi. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963489423] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I think it's a shame to make them lesbians nothing against gay couples but I hate how in media (except Scrubs for some reason, ) the notion that two people of the Same sex can't love each other without fucking is alien. And it gets dull. They're a more interesting duo as friends</quote> Any other examples of same sex people cant just be friends? Also theyre bi. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/16/22 7:34:59 AM #26:	spikethedevil posted... Any other examples of same sex people cant just be friends? Also theyre bi. They weren't bi until they were slapped together and the writers decided to make them a couple And I'd say all media (except scrubs for some reason) is an example of that. Hell don't even have to leave Batman. look at Riddler,/penguin teaming up in Gotham --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:963489470] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>Any other examples of same sex people cant just be friends? Also theyre bi.</quote>They weren't bi until they were slapped together and the writers decided to make them a couple And I'd say all media (except scrubs for some reason) is an example of that. Hell don't even have to leave Batman. look at Riddler,/penguin teaming up in Gotham </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mooreandrew58 03/16/22 7:37:44 AM #27:	People with vastly different personalities hook up date and marry all the time --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" <cite>mooreandrew58 posted [p:963489505] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>People with vastly different personalities hook up date and marry all the time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 03/16/22 7:38:28 AM #28:	UnfairRepresent posted... look at Riddler,/penguin teaming up in Gotham They didn't end up a couple. Penguin had unreciprocated feelings for Riddler at one point, but there's no indication he had then by the end of the show. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:963489516] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>look at Riddler,/penguin teaming up in Gotham</quote>They didn't end up a couple. Penguin had unreciprocated feelings for Riddler at one point, but there's no indication he had then by the end of the show. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 03/16/22 7:47:05 AM #29:	Slayer_22 posted... I never got it's popularity, Slayer_22 posted... besides being two hot women. You just answered your own question lol --- http://i.imgur.com/nlaY1qH.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zHJ1OCo.gif http://i.imgur.com/btBPP4E.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1B3bMHw.gif https://i.imgur.com/2aof3ao.jpg <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:963489596] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>I never got it's popularity,</quote> Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>besides being two hot women.</quote> You just answered your own question lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 03/16/22 7:47:31 AM #30:	pegusus123456 posted... They didn't end up a couple. Penguin had unreciprocated feelings for Riddler at one point, but there's no indication he had then by the end of the show. This. Also specific examples instead of just all media. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:963489603] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>They didn't end up a couple. Penguin had unreciprocated feelings for Riddler at one point, but there's no indication he had then by the end of the show.</quote> This. Also specific examples instead of just all media. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Kazuya 03/16/22 7:49:43 AM #31:	I liked it in the cartoon show but it doesn't really fit elsewhere. --- itt my post is the best <cite>Master Kazuya posted [p:963489626] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I liked it in the cartoon show but it doesn't really fit elsewhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 7:58:47 AM #32:	I just think it's a bad pairing as presented within the confines of what their characters were established as, I guess. It doesn't add to their current characters, nor does it provide benefits beyond what they already had. In different mediums, with different characters built in different ways, I'm sure it's absolutely great. But for what we have now, it's not great. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963489729] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I just think it's a bad pairing as presented within the confines of what their characters were established as, I guess. It doesn't add to their current characters, nor does it provide benefits beyond what they already had. In different mediums, with different characters built in different ways, I'm sure it's absolutely great. But for what we have now, it's not great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelicRadiance 03/16/22 8:00:21 AM #33:	I like how your fix is to pair them both with men --- http://large.horse <cite>AngelicRadiance posted [p:963489746] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I like how your fix is to pair them both with men </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/16/22 8:00:56 AM #34:	pegusus123456 posted... They didn't end up a couple. Penguin had unreciprocated feelings for Riddler at one point, but there's no indication he had then by the end of the show. You've purposefully missed my point the writers were not conformable with them being close same sex friends of the same age groups who lived together. They felt compelled to put love triangles in there for no reason . And that's a shame --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:963489753] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>They didn't end up a couple. Penguin had unreciprocated feelings for Riddler at one point, but there's no indication he had then by the end of the show.</quote>You've purposefully missed my point the writers were not conformable with them being close same sex friends of the same age groups who lived together. They felt compelled to put love triangles in there for no reason . And that's a shame </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 8:02:33 AM #35:	NeonOctopus posted... You just answered your own question lol Yeah, that makes sense. I like two women making out as much as the next guy, I do just value story cohesion over it though. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963489772] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>NeonOctopus posted...</cite> <quote>You just answered your own question lol </quote> Yeah, that makes sense. I like two women making out as much as the next guy, I do just value story cohesion over it though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/16/22 8:02:34 AM #36:	AngelicRadiance posted... I like how your fix is to pair them both with men There's like 11 non white men in all Batman lore. And Fox is an old man Also one of the black villains is a lazy censor bypass for a racial slur. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:963489773] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted... </cite> <quote>I like how your fix is to pair them both with men</quote>There's like 11 non white men in all Batman lore. And Fox is an old man Also one of the black villains is a lazy censor bypass for a racial slur. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 03/16/22 8:02:37 AM #37:	UnfairRepresent posted... the writers were not conformable with them being close same sex friends of the same age groups who lived together. Except for the fact that they did that. But whatever, I'm not doing this with you. You'll have to get your erection elsewhere. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:963489775] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>the writers were not conformable with them being close same sex friends of the same age groups who lived together.</quote>Except for the fact that they did that. But whatever, I'm not doing this with you. You'll have to get your erection elsewhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/16/22 8:05:06 AM #38:	pegusus123456 posted... I'm not doing this with you. You'll have to get your erection elsewhere. its funny how happy you are to "do it" until you're proven wrong and are in a position where you should admit fault THEN and only then you're not doing it anymore and the wave of ad hominens cone out Funny that. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:963489809] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not doing this with you. You'll have to get your erection elsewhere.</quote>its funny how happy you are to "do it" until you're proven wrong and are in a position where you should admit fault THEN and only then you're not doing it anymore and the wave of ad hominens cone out Funny that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelicRadiance 03/16/22 8:07:42 AM #39:	UnfairRepresent posted... There's like 11 non white men in all Batman lore. And Fox is an old man Also one of the black villains is a lazy censor bypass for a racial slur. Not sure what point you're trying to make. There's little representation of male poc so therefore it's okay to split up them up into heteronormative relationships? --- http://large.horse <cite>AngelicRadiance posted [p:963489837] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>There's like 11 non white men in all Batman lore. And Fox is an old man Also one of the black villains is a lazy censor bypass for a racial slur.</quote>Not sure what point you're trying to make. There's little representation of male poc so therefore it's okay to split up them up into heteronormative relationships? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 03/16/22 8:10:32 AM #41:	I enjoyed the Ivy/Harley pairing in the new show, but... ~~Kite man got done dirty. Hell~~ ~~No!~~ --- Let's make biscuits! <cite>Funkydog posted [p:963489866] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I enjoyed the Ivy/Harley pairing in the new show, but... Kite man got done dirty. Hell No! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelicRadiance 03/16/22 8:12:30 AM #42:	UnfairRepresent posted... No just that "You put them with a white guy!" is a weird complaint In this context That's not even what I said lol --- http://large.horse <cite>AngelicRadiance posted [p:963489888] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>No just that "You put them with a white guy!" is a weird complaint In this context</quote>That's not even what I said lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/16/22 8:14:51 AM #43:	That's totally fair. My bad for some reason I read that as "white men" and was really confused what you were on about. Now it makes a lot more sense. My mistake. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:963489924] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>That's totally fair. My bad for some reason I read that as "white men" and was really confused what you were on about. Now it makes a lot more sense. My mistake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImagineUsngAlts 03/16/22 8:20:34 AM #44:	UnfairRepresent posted... nothing against gay couples but <cite>ImagineUsngAlts posted [p:963489994] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>nothing against gay couples but </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 03/16/22 8:22:27 AM #45:	I still prefer Harley when she is in an abusive relationship with Joker. It makes for a more interesting character. I also generally prefer an Ivy that is borderline genocidal, because she wants to save all the plants. <cite>Esrac posted [p:963490022] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I still prefer Harley when she is in an abusive relationship with Joker. It makes for a more interesting character. I also generally prefer an Ivy that is borderline genocidal, because she wants to save all the plants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/16/22 8:25:46 AM #46:	I'm the wrong guy to play that card on meladieo. I'm one of the biggest LGBT supporters on the site and my Commander Shepard is gayer than a happy rainbow trout in a river of chocolate. No one cares that Batwoman likes girls. But it would be weird if the next Marvel movie opens with Thor and Star-Lord having sex because they live toghether now. I just think it's a shame when writers are too scared to have same sex friends who love each other without making them romance interests. Harely and Ivy were fun friends. They both had seperate romance stories going on in the background and supported each other. Making them gay later because "since they live together and are close they have to fuck" just felt like lazy fanservice and weakening them as characters Scrubs understood this and it's why JD and Turk have such great chemistry --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:963490065] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>I'm the wrong guy to play that card on meladieo. I'm one of the biggest LGBT supporters on the site and my Commander Shepard is gayer than a happy rainbow trout in a river of chocolate. No one cares that Batwoman likes girls. But it would be weird if the next Marvel movie opens with Thor and Star-Lord having sex because they live toghether now. I just think it's a shame when writers are too scared to have same sex friends who love each other without making them romance interests. Harely and Ivy were fun friends. They both had seperate romance stories going on in the background and supported each other. Making them gay later because "since they live together and are close they have to fuck" just felt like lazy fanservice and weakening them as characters Scrubs understood this and it's why JD and Turk have such great chemistry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 8:26:36 AM #47:	AngelicRadiance posted... I like how your fix is to pair them both with men I like how you throw it down to implied homophobia. Harley and Red Hood would work on a theoretical relationship due to their past involvement with Joker. There is also the fact that Harley was Red Hood's doctor when he was in Arkham. Swamp Thing and Ivy were both tap into the Green, though Swamp Thing is the avatar of the Green. Plus plants LMAO. You really don't want to have a normal conversation about writing and would rather turn it into a conversation where you yell 'bigot!' instead, huh? --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963490077] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted...</cite> <quote>I like how your fix is to pair them both with men </quote> I like how you throw it down to implied homophobia. Harley and Red Hood would work on a theoretical relationship due to their past involvement with Joker. There is also the fact that Harley was Red Hood's doctor when he was in Arkham. Swamp Thing and Ivy were both tap into the Green, though Swamp Thing is the avatar of the Green. Plus plants LMAO. You really don't want to have a normal conversation about writing and would rather turn it into a conversation where you yell 'bigot!' instead, huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 03/16/22 8:28:25 AM #48:	Slayer_22 posted... Pair Ivy with Swamp Thing and Harley with Red Hood or something, would probably be better than Ivy and Harley. But aren't both of these pairings predictable, boring, and based on nothing more than "they have similar skills/powers"? <cite>TMOG posted [p:963490096] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Pair Ivy with Swamp Thing and Harley with Red Hood or something, would probably be better than Ivy and Harley.</quote>But aren't both of these pairings predictable, boring, and based on nothing more than "they have similar skills/powers"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 8:31:11 AM #49:	TMOG posted... But aren't both of these pairings predictable, boring, and based on nothing more than "they have similar skills/powers"? I was pretty much saying that one as a joke. Plus pretty sure the endgame for Alec is Abby anyway, just like the endgame for Peter Parker is MJ lol. Ivy would work best by herself or with Batman, as some sort of rivalry/romance sorta deal. Edit: and even then, that isn't much an endgame situation for Batman or her. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963490141] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>TMOG posted...</cite> <quote> But aren't both of these pairings predictable, boring, and based on nothing more than "they have similar skills/powers"? </quote> I was pretty much saying that one as a joke. Plus pretty sure the endgame for Alec is Abby anyway, just like the endgame for Peter Parker is MJ lol. Ivy would work best by herself or with Batman, as some sort of rivalry/romance sorta deal. Edit: and even then, that isn't much an endgame situation for Batman or her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelicRadiance 03/16/22 8:31:26 AM #50:	Slayer_22 posted... You really don't want to have a normal conversation about writing Because "They should be together because plants" is such clever writing --- http://large.horse <cite>AngelicRadiance posted [p:963490146] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>You really don't want to have a normal conversation about writing</quote>Because "They should be together because plants" is such clever writing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 03/16/22 8:32:59 AM #51:	AngelicRadiance posted... Because "They should be together because plants" is such clever writing I've never seen someone be so astoundingly inaccurate about another's argument, but also be so adamant about arguing. It's astonishing, really. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:963490179] in I dislike ... [t:79944943]...</cite> <quote>AngelicRadiance posted...</cite> <quote> Because "They should be together because plants" is such clever writing </quote> I've never seen someone be so astoundingly inaccurate about another's argument, but also be so adamant about arguing. It's astonishing, really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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