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PrettyBoyFloyd 03/12/22 7:15:29 PM #1:	Saw "Shane" last night on some HD channel and it just wasn't the same. Looks like the shit they use to make soap operas or some shit. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:963395950] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Saw "Shane" last night on some HD channel and it just wasn't the same. Looks like the shit they use to make soap operas or some shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 03/12/22 7:15:54 PM #2:	that movie sucks --- ( o _o) <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:963395962] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>that movie sucks </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hayame Zero 03/12/22 7:18:10 PM #3:	You mean like motion smoothing with modern TVs? Yeah, I hate that. The higher framerate looks awful --- ...I think I'm done here... <cite>Hayame Zero posted [p:963396007] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>You mean like motion smoothing with modern TVs? Yeah, I hate that. The higher framerate looks awful </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 03/12/22 7:18:41 PM #4:	Robot2600 posted... that movie sucks You're going to hell for that kind of thinking. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:963396015] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Robot2600 posted... </cite> <quote>that movie sucks</quote> You're going to hell for that kind of thinking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/12/22 7:19:36 PM #5:	I saw it on Blu-ray a few years back and I thought it looked pretty great. Probably a different transfer? --- Star Wars is about guys who show up and then you clap. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:963396036] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>I saw it on Blu-ray a few years back and I thought it looked pretty great. Probably a different transfer? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jx1010 03/12/22 7:19:52 PM #6:	Never heard of it. Porn movies look good in HD tho --- Gaming is a weird industry where you can scam the consumers with lies and fake promises, and there will still be fanboys defending it. <cite>Jx1010 posted [p:963396043] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Never heard of it. Porn movies look good in HD tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 03/12/22 7:22:08 PM #7:	Hayame Zero posted... You mean like motion smoothing with modern TVs? Yeah, I hate that. The higher framerate looks awful Yea... I can only imagine what High Noon or Liberty Valance looks like. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:963396089] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Hayame Zero posted... </cite> <quote>You mean like motion smoothing with modern TVs? Yeah, I hate that. The higher framerate looks awful</quote> Yea... I can only imagine what High Noon or Liberty Valance looks like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 03/12/22 7:32:54 PM #8:	PrettyBoyFloyd posted... You're going to hell for that kind of thinking. you ain't wrong. --- ( o _o) <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:963396300] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>PrettyBoyFloyd posted... </cite> <quote>You're going to hell for that kind of thinking.</quote> you ain't wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelestialVoices 03/12/22 7:34:54 PM #9:	hd isn't the problem, it's your tv settings or the shitty channel --- ginger ale is lit http://www.last.fm/user/pinkfloydrulez <cite>CelestialVoices posted [p:963396349] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>hd isn't the problem, it's your tv settings or the shitty channel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 03/12/22 7:36:25 PM #10:	The only people who care about framerate are gamers. TV has been 30 since forever Film has been 24 since forever Animation has been 12 since forever. 60 FPS is for soap operas. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:963396385] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>The only people who care about framerate are gamers. TV has been 30 since forever Film has been 24 since forever Animation has been 12 since forever. 60 FPS is for soap operas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/12/22 7:55:35 PM #11:	Big Trouble in Little China It makes the blue contacts super obvious. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:963396818] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Big Trouble in Little China It makes the blue contacts super obvious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 03/12/22 7:58:10 PM #12:	Hayame Zero posted... You mean like motion smoothing with modern TVs? Yeah, I hate that. The higher framerate looks awful Modern TVs have a "cinema or game mode" to preserve native speed and resolution off whatever media you view it on. Maybe TC didn't adjust the settings or something because the artificial motion blur and frame-skipping is the default for tvs with 120hz rate. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:963396862] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Hayame Zero posted... </cite> <quote>You mean like motion smoothing with modern TVs? Yeah, I hate that. The higher framerate looks awful</quote> Modern TVs have a "cinema or game mode" to preserve native speed and resolution off whatever media you view it on. Maybe TC didn't adjust the settings or something because the artificial motion blur and frame-skipping is the default for tvs with 120hz rate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 03/12/22 7:59:02 PM #13:	I mean it wasn't ugly. Just looked like the actors were filmed on a green stage or whatever the hell it's called. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:963396877] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>I mean it wasn't ugly. Just looked like the actors were filmed on a green stage or whatever the hell it's called. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 03/12/22 8:00:14 PM #14:	Nothing involving a matt painting was ever meant to be HD. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:963396906] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Nothing involving a matt painting was ever meant to be HD. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/12/22 8:01:11 PM #15:	TV is actually either 24fps or 25fps, depending on territory. In fact, if you buy a region free Blu-ray player, you still have to make sure it can portray things in 25fps because a lot of British television shows or television film Blu-rays that you import will be in 25fps. If it's not properly modified, it's gonna get weird. --- Star Wars is about guys who show up and then you clap. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:963396935] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>TV is actually either 24fps or 25fps, depending on territory. In fact, if you buy a region free Blu-ray player, you still have to make sure it can portray things in 25fps because a lot of British television shows or television film Blu-rays that you import will be in 25fps. If it's not properly modified, it's gonna get weird. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 03/12/22 8:03:42 PM #16:	Some of those really old bits of footaged that get remastered look great though. Look at They Shall Not Grow Old. --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:963396982] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Some of those really old bits of footaged that get remastered look great though. Look at They Shall Not Grow Old. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 03/12/22 8:08:51 PM #17:	FortuneCookie posted... Nothing involving a matt painting was ever meant to be HD. Disagree. Ever see Dick Tracy or Escape from New York in 4K? The matte paintings in those movies are absolutely phenomenal. The Star Wars prequels or most 2000s movies filmed with lots of CGI though...those are only made worse in high resolution which make the green screen shots pop out more jarringly. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:963397106] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>Nothing involving a matt painting was ever meant to be HD.</quote> Disagree. Ever see Dick Tracy or Escape from New York in 4K? The matte paintings in those movies are absolutely phenomenal. The Star Wars prequels or most 2000s movies filmed with lots of CGI though...those are only made worse in high resolution which make the green screen shots pop out more jarringly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 03/12/22 8:10:41 PM #18:	Jagr_68 posted... Modern TVs have a "cinema or game mode" to preserve native speed and resolution off whatever media you view it on. Maybe TC didn't adjust the settings or something because the artificial motion blur and frame-skipping is the default for tvs with 120hz rate. Not my TV. House and cat sitting for a friend over the weekend who is in Florida. Some trippy stuff comes on and shows Pluto TV between movies. This scene looks as if I was looking at it staring out of a literal window. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/3/AABKDxAADBdT.jpg --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:963397148] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted... </cite> <quote>Modern TVs have a "cinema or game mode" to preserve native speed and resolution off whatever media you view it on. Maybe TC didn't adjust the settings or something because the artificial motion blur and frame-skipping is the default for tvs with 120hz rate.</quote> Not my TV. House and cat sitting for a friend over the weekend who is in Florida. Some trippy stuff comes on and shows Pluto TV between movies. This scene looks as if I was looking at it staring out of a literal window. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/3/AABKDxAADBdT.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 03/12/22 9:19:24 PM #19:	O it's cause it's technicolor. --- ( o _o) <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:963398531] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>O it's cause it's technicolor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 03/12/22 9:56:51 PM #20:	If it looks like a soap opera it's a framerate issue, not a resolution issue. Agreed you probably have motion smoothing on. Film is an analog format, meaning its apparent quality is higher than HD. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:963399348] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>If it looks like a soap opera it's a framerate issue, not a resolution issue. Agreed you probably have motion smoothing on. Film is an analog format, meaning its apparent quality is higher than HD. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForsakenHermit 03/12/22 10:07:49 PM #21:	I always thought soap operas got that look through lighting. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! <cite>ForsakenHermit posted [p:963399606] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>I always thought soap operas got that look through lighting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 03/12/22 10:10:17 PM #22:	Shit, even modern movies look awful when they get upscaled to 60FPS. I think there's something in our brains that makes us want movies to be 24 FPS, because anything higher feels weird. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:963399645] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Shit, even modern movies look awful when they get upscaled to 60FPS. I think there's something in our brains that makes us want movies to be 24 FPS, because anything higher feels weird. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 03/12/22 10:56:54 PM #23:	ForsakenHermit posted... I always thought soap operas got that look through lighting. it was from using really good cameras... and also lighting. --- ( o _o) <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:963400460] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>ForsakenHermit posted... </cite> <quote>I always thought soap operas got that look through lighting.</quote> it was from using really good cameras... and also lighting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 03/12/22 11:48:28 PM #24:	ForsakenHermit posted... I always thought soap operas got that look through lighting. Soap operas look the way they do because they're shot on videotape. Most high quality television shows, since the 1950s, are ultimately done on 35mm film (non-English TV shows tend to be either tape or 16mm, though, until the digital revolution). In fact it was I Love Lucy that first adapted this format of combining filmmaking elements and television, and the resulting high quality of the material changed the way TV was made due to, well, the show breaking like every record. But videotape is cheap, and if people keep tuning in for cheapjack video shit, why change? Hence, soap operas. This is also why some of the worst Twilight Zone episodes have that soap opera effect - they were done on video, not film, much to the consternation of Rod Serling, so they look like shit, whereas the good episodes could be projected on a big screen like a movie and look excellent. Needless to say, those filmed episodes of Twilight Zone, and other great black and white shows, look so good on Blu-ray, and obviously early color shows look visually excellent even if the low budgets are more noticeable. --- Star Wars is about guys who show up and then you clap. <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:963401442] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>ForsakenHermit posted... </cite> <quote>I always thought soap operas got that look through lighting.</quote>Soap operas look the way they do because they're shot on videotape. Most high quality television shows, since the 1950s, are ultimately done on 35mm film (non-English TV shows tend to be either tape or 16mm, though, until the digital revolution). In fact it was I Love Lucy that first adapted this format of combining filmmaking elements and television, and the resulting high quality of the material changed the way TV was made due to, well, the show breaking like every record. But videotape is cheap, and if people keep tuning in for cheapjack video shit, why change? Hence, soap operas. This is also why some of the worst Twilight Zone episodes have that soap opera effect - they were done on video, not film, much to the consternation of Rod Serling, so they look like shit, whereas the good episodes could be projected on a big screen like a movie and look excellent. Needless to say, those filmed episodes of Twilight Zone, and other great black and white shows, look so good on Blu-ray, and obviously early color shows look visually excellent even if the low budgets are more noticeable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 03/13/22 3:46:13 AM #25:	ForsakenHermit posted... I always thought soap operas got that look through lighting. Soap opera effect is 30 or 60 FPS. --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:963404249] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>ForsakenHermit posted... </cite> <quote>I always thought soap operas got that look through lighting.</quote>Soap opera effect is 30 or 60 FPS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 03/13/22 4:09:23 AM #26:	Questionmarktarius posted... Animation has been 12 since forever. TIL --- #EatTheRich <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:963404501] in Some old m... [t:79940112]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Animation has been 12 since forever.</quote>TIL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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