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Nazanir
03/13/22 12:14:59 PM
#52:


Zodd3224 posted...
Is he playing Elden Ring yet
He has been for a while now. It's boring as fuck though. It's obvious he is reading guides. Now that isn't a sin or anything, but he acts surprised or like he figured stuff out himself and that kills any enjoyment for the stream really.

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Nazanir
03/13/22 1:50:19 PM
#53:


Also, he really thinks his viewers are dumb as rocks:

https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/1502888148363145220?t=99fmUDgaQbjFTACHhmHztQ&s=19

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ReaperCloud
03/13/22 1:54:16 PM
#54:


This is one of the few times that DSP is correct though. They have to be dumb in order to give him money, so he needs to drill the time change info into their heads. Lol

Can't have them being late and missing out on that important khantent... important being those fools who give money before the game even starts.

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BlackBlueButts
03/13/22 11:36:54 PM
#55:


He told some bullshit story about how he changed someone's life by tipping them a large amount. Then went on to say that "tipping can help people".

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Nintendo_Porn
03/13/22 11:43:40 PM
#56:


Hint HINT!?!?

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BlackBlueButts
03/13/22 11:49:51 PM
#57:


Nintendo_Porn posted...
Hint HINT!?!?
Dude that's not a hint *ack ack* I'm outright telling you, I would really appreciate money to pay my bills.

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Nintendo_Porn
03/13/22 11:58:51 PM
#58:


Hey...out of left field, but i got to ask as a ass man...how you rate liara T soni's butt from mass effect?

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dancing_cactuar
03/14/22 12:15:13 AM
#59:


Nintendo_Porn posted...
Hey...out of left field, but i got to ask as a ass man...how you rate liara T soni's butt from mass effect?
WOW DUDE, ASKlNG ME SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I HAVE A FUCKING WIFE AND FAMILY! HOW ABOUT YOU GET A FUCKING LIFE YOU FUCKING LOSER, ACK ACK ACK!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/5/4/AAZroiAAChJW.jpg

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Nintendo_Porn
03/14/22 12:26:45 AM
#60:


*Tips 20$* It was just a question. I'm sorry, Phill. Plz unban me!!!!!!

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dancing_cactuar
03/14/22 12:32:22 AM
#61:


Nintendo_Porn posted...
*Tips 20$* It was just a question. I'm sorry, Phill. Plz unban me!!!!!!
Alright so here's the deal *snort*, you don't ask any more stupid fucking questions like that and don't bring up drama and shit towards me or the mods, and you'll be good dude, got it?

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Nintendo_Porn
03/14/22 12:36:36 AM
#62:


*Tips 100$*

I sorryz, DSP!

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DeadBankerDream
03/14/22 3:44:10 AM
#63:


Hey, no paypig fetish RP in our non lewd wife and cat family topic.

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Slayer_22
03/14/22 4:10:53 AM
#64:


I miss DSP being a degenerate.

I really do.

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pokeytrader
03/14/22 4:17:36 AM
#65:


Slayer_22 posted...
I miss DSP being a degenerate.

I really do.
Classic DSP objectifying every woman on screen will always be more entertaining than Current DSP literally covering his face and moaning about having a wife when he sees a female character.
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Slayer_22
03/14/22 4:19:16 AM
#66:


pokeytrader posted...

Classic DSP objectifying every woman on screen will always be more entertaining than Current DSP literally covering his face and moaning about having a wife when he sees a female character.

I wonder, does his wife just get pissed off when he looks at women in video games? Is his mom Kat jealous of video game characters or something?

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DeadBankerDream
03/14/22 4:22:57 AM
#67:


Phil was talking about shields in Elden Ring and noted how the franchise had moved away from shields and "block block block" gameplay by not having such elements in Bloodborne and Sekiro.

Bro...

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pokeytrader
03/14/22 4:32:01 AM
#68:


Slayer_22 posted...
I wonder, does his wife just get pissed off when he looks at women in video games? Is his mom Kat jealous of video game characters or something?
I find it hard to believe that Kat is invested enough in their relationship that she cares about something so silly. I mean, she's fine with him lying and scamming and making a complete fool of himself on a daily basis, but she draws the line at interacting with video game women? I'm convinced that he does this entirely of his own volition, either as an overreaction to past accusations of sexism or because he mistakenly believes it's what Kat wants.
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KayfabeTactics
03/14/22 7:10:26 AM
#69:


^ yep

DSP overcompensates for being a real adult. Its why he goes so much into things he does. Paying bills like an adult, doing errands like an adult, having a spouse like an adult. And just recently I heard him go into detail about drinking his coffee black even though he heated it

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DeadBankerDream
03/14/22 8:01:38 AM
#70:


I can't wait for summer so all the glue in his house that everything is hung on melts again because like an adult he is refusing to spend any of his vast amounts of money on a drill to screw things in place.

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pokeytrader
03/14/22 9:17:54 AM
#71:


His efforts to appear mature only make him look more childish. Just as an honest person has no need to constantly point out that they are honest, no adult (and especially not one pushing 40) needs to go around insisting that they are a mature adult.

What's really hilarious is that no one expects him to be a mature adult. This is a problem he invented. Plenty of successful streamers are not overly mature people, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Vyrulisse
03/14/22 10:30:39 AM
#72:


pokeytrader posted...
His efforts to appear mature only make him look more childish. Just as an honest person has no need to constantly point out that they are honest, no adult (and especially not one pushing 40) needs to go around insisting that they are a mature adult.

What's really hilarious is that no one expects him to be a mature adult. This is a problem he invented. Plenty of successful streamers are not overly mature people, and there's nothing wrong with that.
He's obsessed with everyone seeing him as a big boy grown-up with responsibilities and a family. It's why he literally thinks having a cat means he now has a family.

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DeadBankerDream
03/14/22 10:32:13 AM
#73:


The family thing is clearly an effort to try to create an image of certain financial responsibilities in the eyes of his piggies.

Phil might be dumb as a bag of rocks, but he knows how to manipulate.

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pokeytrader
03/14/22 11:02:35 AM
#74:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Phil might be dumb as a bag of rocks, but he knows how to manipulate.
It's scary to think what he could do if he was smarter and more ambitious. He's able to earn over 100 grand a year scamming a bunch of lonely, vulnerable, and frankly not very intelligent people, all while putting in minimal effort and treating his viewers like garbage. If he was smart enough to tone down his toxicity a bit to draw in new viewers and actually offer some real incentive to support him, he could be making a lot more money.
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Balnazarr
03/14/22 11:48:00 AM
#75:


pokeytrader posted...
It's scary to think what he could do if he was smarter and more ambitious. He's able to earn over 100 grand a year scamming a bunch of lonely, vulnerable, and frankly not very intelligent people, all while putting in minimal effort and treating his viewers like garbage. If he was smart enough to tone down his toxicity a bit to draw in new viewers and actually offer some real incentive to support him, he could be making a lot more money.

Don't give the pig roach more credit then he's due. He's scamming idiots out of their money. Anyone with more then 2 brain cells know he's a liar. His fanbase consists of mentally ill wheelchairs and trolls giving him money to laugh at him.

Theres a lot more people way more competent then DSP who scam way more people. DSP is a street bum who has managed to to piss way everything he owns.
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Nintendo_Porn
03/14/22 11:55:53 AM
#76:


Do not underestimate a manipulator, and how dangerous he is too.

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Nazanir
03/16/22 1:57:19 PM
#77:


Nintendo_Porn posted...
Do not underestimate a manipulator, and how dangerous he is too. fortunate he's lazy as hell.
Lazy yes, but that doesn't make him less dangerous. It's become really clear recently that he preys on certain people, he gets them to believe that he is more deserving of their money than they themselves.

An example I will always come back to is PlanetJeff. He was so "entranced" by Phil that he spend (part) of his deceased wive's insurance.

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Nintendo_Porn
03/16/22 2:23:37 PM
#78:


https://youtu.be/InFMlXL_Bbo?t=61

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BlackBlueButts
03/17/22 12:25:42 AM
#79:


So OIC went to the farms and leaked a bunch of stuff? What does he get out of being a loyal paypig and a detractor?

Phil supposedly begs even harder in his emails and has discord channels for game help so he doesn't get stuck. There's nothing wrong with using a guide, why does he get so pissy?

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DeadBankerDream
03/17/22 1:50:37 AM
#80:


He did an interview with a detractor called Agent Proper. I've heard of him, but never watched him before because he exclusively does livestreams and I prefer my DSP in bitesized chunks. But I did watch this one. It's pretty amazing and you should watch it too just to hear OIC explain himself.

https://youtu.be/zoRYwA97D8U

Also on the stream is someone named Shiro, who seems to be the creator of Kiwifarms or something? I dun remember. It's kind of difficult to hear which of them is talking to me, but its OICs responses that are important so whatever.

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DeadBankerDream
03/17/22 2:23:33 AM
#81:


OIC trolled Phil into a meltdown of epic proportions.

Phil asked OIC if that was him in the interview, and OIC weasled himself out of giving a proper answer by simply stating he has previously talked to detractors and phil went off the absolute rail about how people dare spending their time away from his chat actually doing things with their life they want and talking to whoeever they want instead of just sitting in a prayer position until he comes back online.

https://youtu.be/c-AMuya2mYM

All the while his chat is full of people sharing stuff from the interview and how to find it and lots of insane piglets trying to rationalize their support for phil in the face of obvious reality.

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pokeytrader
03/17/22 2:34:07 AM
#82:


Looks like he finished at $27 in tips for the night, which might lead one to believe that his viewers prefer gameplay to drama. If only someone had warned DSP about OIC earlier. Oh, wait, both detractors and loyal viewers have been pointing out how problematic OIC is for months.
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BlackBlueButts
03/17/22 2:36:31 AM
#83:


Literally demanding why he'd go to detractors.

Dude, it's none of your fucking business what your audience does.

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Nazanir
03/17/22 3:06:29 PM
#84:


https://youtu.be/HPBrbiaVQVs

Delusional doesn't even come close.

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KayfabeTactics
03/17/22 3:52:56 PM
#85:


Sounds like I have a lot of catching up to do.

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Balnazarr
03/17/22 4:06:08 PM
#86:


OIC is just pathetic. The very definition of pathetic. Gets publicly insulted and humilated by DSP. Goes back the next day to grovel and beg with a public apology.
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BlackBlueButts
03/18/22 2:09:41 AM
#87:


Imagine paying someone money and asking them if you can apologise to them.


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Nintendo_Porn
03/18/22 3:14:02 AM
#88:


So, anyone here still doubting that dsp is dangerous? What he does is something that should never be learned or taught.

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pokeytrader
03/18/22 4:03:52 AM
#89:


Nintendo_Porn posted...
So, anyone here still doubting that dsp is dangerous? What he does is something that should never be learned or taught.
It annoys me when people think he's harmless and try to pass his act off with the old "if you don't like him, just don't watch him" platitude. He's a manipulative scammer, a scumbag who takes advantage of vulnerable people and constantly belittles and gaslights the fans who allow him to make a living. Are there worse people out there? Of course, but that doesn't change the fact that he is an objectively bad human being who deserves all the ridicule and scorn that comes his way.
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Slayer_22
03/18/22 7:49:18 AM
#90:


Overall, DSP is harmless.

However, he is an awful person who deserves no sympathy.

In the end, his horde of weirdos are gonna donate their money to someone, there's no way to stop it. His begging is still pathetic and scummy, but still. Overall, he's harmless. Just an awful human.

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Vyrulisse
03/18/22 8:11:46 AM
#91:


Slayer_22 posted...
Overall, DSP is harmless.

However, he is an awful person who deserves no sympathy.

In the end, his horde of weirdos are gonna donate their money to someone, there's no way to stop it. His begging is still pathetic and scummy, but still. Overall, he's harmless. Just an awful human.
A lot of these weirdos have mental disorders and Phil knows this yet takes advantage anyway. In the grand scheme of things he's harmless but not to these people he grifts, I wonder sometimes about the state of their lives pigging out for Phil.

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Slayer_22
03/18/22 8:15:57 AM
#92:


Vyrulisse posted...

A lot of these weirdos have mental disorders and Phil knows this yet takes advantage anyway. In the grand scheme of things he's harmless but not to these people he grifts, I wonder sometimes about the state of their lives pigging out for Phil.

Yeah, I can agree with that. Though I still think to most normal people he's utterly harmless. It's only the weird people that allow him to beg that are exploited when they hand over money. And I don't think Phil is smart enough to fully understand that he's exploiting them, otherwise he'd definitely do it better.

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Nazanir
03/18/22 8:16:28 AM
#93:


Slayer_22 posted...
Overall, DSP is harmless.

However, he is an awful person who deserves no sympathy.

In the end, his horde of weirdos are gonna donate their money to someone, there's no way to stop it. His begging is still pathetic and scummy, but still. Overall, he's harmless. Just an awful human.
He is not harmless at all:

Nazanir posted...
Lazy yes, but that doesn't make him less dangerous. It's become really clear recently that he preys on certain people, he gets them to believe that he is more deserving of their money than they themselves.

An example I will always come back to is PlanetJeff. He was so "entranced" by Phil that he spend (part) of his deceased wive's insurance.


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Slayer_22
03/18/22 8:18:27 AM
#94:


Nazanir posted...

He is not harmless at all:


Still harmless, these people would 100% be exploited by other people or situations. DSP isn't doing something that is actually dangerous, he just attracts those weird enough to give him money and listen to his begging.

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pokeytrader
03/18/22 9:14:43 AM
#95:


There's no way you can convince me that a scammer who makes his living taking advantage of people is harmless. And there's no guarantee that these people would be exploited otherwise. Even if they gave their money to some other streamer, odds are they would be treated better, would be provided with entertaining content, and could potentially become part of a community that would have some social benefits.

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Nazanir
03/18/22 9:34:07 AM
#96:


Slayer_22 posted...
Still harmless, these people would 100% be exploited by other people or situations. DSP isn't doing something that is actually dangerous, he just attracts those weird enough to give him money and listen to his begging.
Are you defending Phil because people would be exploited anyway?

Just because people are easily manipulated or exploites doesn't mean they should, nor deserve.

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ReaperCloud
03/18/22 10:55:21 AM
#97:


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing all of these paypigs are of legal adult age and are male. Their mental stability is where DSP is taking advantage of them.

Now, imagine how different this would play out if they were not of legal adult age, but where a child...or a woman. Just being a woman would get more heat on DSP from the white knights alone.

DSP is a danger to those weak minded who are brainwashed into worshiping him. Is he the Devil? No. That doesn't make him an angel though. He is a danger to society, but as it stands currently...a very low level danger that only focuses on maybe 12 people at best (not sure what the amount of paypigs DSP has in the pen).

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Slayer_22
03/18/22 12:44:45 PM
#99:


Nazanir posted...

Are you defending Phil because people would be exploited anyway?

Just because people are easily manipulated or exploites doesn't mean they should, nor deserve.

I'm not defending Phil.

Look what I'm saying, before making these weird statements. I'm saying he's ultimately harmless, which is leaps and bounds different from defending.

I'm not saying any of that. No need to put words in my mouth. It isn't a situation where we need to take such shit argumentative tactics for a difference of opinion.

ReaperCloud posted...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing all of these paypigs are of legal adult age and are male. Their mental stability is where DSP is taking advantage of them.

Now, imagine how different this would play out if they were not of legal adult age, but where a child...or a woman. Just being a woman would get more heat on DSP from the white knights alone.

DSP is a danger to those weak minded who are brainwashed into worshiping him. Is he the Devil? No. That doesn't make him an angel though. He is a danger to society, but as it stands currently...a very low level danger that only focuses on maybe 12 people at best (not sure what the amount of paypigs DSP has in the pen).

I just don't agree that he's a danger.

Here's the thing. I USED to watch Max Dood(love the guy). He was streaming one time and I saw a dude donate to him. Said guy said he needed the money but he enjoyed Max so he sent him money anyway as congrats for a win. Max told him not to do that because he really didn't need it

He donated more a few minutes later anyway. Despite urging not to from Max.

Same guy donated a day later a few times.

Ultimately, DSP might not be actively telling these people NOT to donate regardless of their situation(because 'I neEd ThE mOnEY foR BiLlZ!!!1') and might be egging them on, but it isn't like he pursues these people. He isn't messaging them and singularly begging them for money. That would make him dangerous, in my opinion. Because he's actively attempting to coerce money from someone. Now, if he was, I'd say he's dangerous.

Bur as he is, he's just harmless and stupid. The source of the money doesn't matter as long as he gets the money, he isn't actively trying to steal from others, these people willingly give the money without being singularly coerced into it.

I will change my opinion entirely if he's actively coerced these users to give up money, however, rather than his boring appeals for money.

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dancing_cactuar
03/18/22 12:45:06 PM
#100:


ReaperCloud posted...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm guessing all of these paypigs are of legal adult age and are male.
-He doesn't know about Derich
Perhaps that is for the best considering the degeneracy he posts on twitter.


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ReaperCloud
03/18/22 1:01:45 PM
#101:


Slayer_22

In my opinion I would call DSP dangerous since he's constantly telling his viewers/fans that he desperately needs all this money, yet people know how much he makes a year and it's plenty.

So if these people are giving DSP money with the belief that he's desperate, then DSP is manipulating them through lies. I also feel that anyone who openly lies about anything is dangerous. That's just me though. Lies can be harmless or harmfull. Mostly harmfull though.

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Slayer_22
03/18/22 1:05:25 PM
#102:


ReaperCloud posted...
Slayer_22

In my opinion I would call DSP dangerous since he's constantly telling his viewers/fans that he desperately needs all this money, yet people know how much he makes a year and it's plenty.

So if these people are giving DSP money with the belief that he's desperate, then DSP is manipulating them through lies. I also feel that anyone who openly lies about anything is dangerous. That's just me though. Lies can be harmless or harmfull. Mostly harmfull though.

That's fair. I don't agree with you, but I do see what you're saying entirely. But that's a fair viewpoint.

I just feel if he's not singularly coercing these people, then it's not truly dangerous or harmful.

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