Current Events > Dairy sales to decline. Plant-based milk, on the other hands, skyrockets.

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Ruvan22 posted...

Been using Lactaid or the store brand for a couple of decades now as excessive milk gave me extreme pain. Haven't tried oat/coconut/almond, what are the differences?

difference is you won't need lactaid

Solid Snake07 posted...

Plant based milks suck for cooking which is pretty much the only thing I ever use milk for.

coconut milk is a great substitute in many applications

i recently made, for example, a potato soup with coconut milk instead of cream, and you couldnt tell the difference

(although again, coconut milk is a completely different thing from nut milks)

I like dairy but I'm a fan of cow milk.

Hullabaloo posted...

Id be open to trying the vanilla almond milk, but I buy whole milk when I get groceries. The milk fear mongering crowd give me a laugh.

Its still not very good. Whole is much better.

I didnt read the 50 odd posts after this and really dont know why I am commenting.

Coconut milk is nice for cooking though, admittedly I dont generally think of that as a straight dairy replacement*

krazychao5 posted...

difference is you won't need lactaid

Sorry I meant the Lactaid milk, not the pill

Lactaid milk I always called dessert milk, its much more sweet and quite nice on cereal.

Most of the nut ones taste like slightly off skim milk imo, I had an ex that was seriously lactose intolerant so Ive tried most of this stuff.

The shelf life of the alternative milks is what made me switch over, been alternating between almond and oat.

Oat milk>Soy milk

I've tried almond milk once before. I didn't really like it, but I suppose that could just be a matter of trying the right one.

ZannoL posted...

Ripple is super good. Really high in protein.

Never heard or seen ripple. If I have seen it, it may have been super jacked up to an unreasonable price that I wouldn't consider it, but seeing two people say they like it I might consider it.

I like plant based milks because they're usually lower in calories and I don't care about their flavor since I typically use them in my protein shakes. They often have more benefits and do a better job than just using water. Obviously I could use cow milk but then that's calorie loaded.

But to add to discussion, I don't mind oatmilk, could even use it for cereal. But it depends on the batch, sometimes it can come out...slimy? Is the best way I can describe it. Even if it's not close to being expired.

Coconut almond milk has been solid for my protein smoothies and it adds a nice flavor to them.

But on to even more discussion, usually the gallon jugs that they sell at the super market of milk are honestly trash compared to farmer's market milk. I've bought milk from them and that shit is GOOD. But they charge a lot for it probably because they know it's quality. It's been like 6-8 dollars for a 2 liter bottle I believe. Absolutely insane. But I buy it on occasion as a treat for myself.

I'm fine with plant-based for cereal, coffee, drinking, etc.

Plant-based sucks ass for most cooking, baking, and cheese. I've got to have real buttermilk to make my pancakes or they turn out wrong.

Legato-and-Vash posted...

Tell that to my gf's body who constantly has stomach issues whenever he drinks or eats dairy, but refuses to stop. She is always on the toilet after eating cheese.

Has your girlfriend tried switching to harder cheese?

I've got a friend who will feel all kinds of sick if he eats a soft or semi-soft cheese but isn't bothered by harder cheese. A slice of munster, brie or American "cheese" will mess him up, but a very sharp cheddar, aged provolone or parmesan doesn't bother him much, if at all.

Probably doesn't work for everyone, but might help her eat cheese without destroying your toilet.

Almond > Soy > Oat > Rice

I still buy regular milk because for a lot of recipes you straight up can't use plant based milk.

karmageddon28 posted...

Plant-based sucks ass for most cooking, baking, and cheese. I've got to have real buttermilk to make my pancakes or they turn out wrong.

Of course it's gonna turn out wrong because buttermilk and milk are two different things

Unsweet vanilla almond milk is where its at

As someone who usually has a healthier cereal for breakfast and occasionally a sugar one for a snack in the evening, I haven't bought cow milk in years. Silk unsweetened oat for omelettes and healthy cereal and Silk unsweetened cashew for snack cereals. Last much longer and isn't nearly as sweet or salty.

The Eko posted...

Of course it's gonna turn out wrong because buttermilk and milk are two different things

I know this, although I could have phrased it better. Although, milk and vinegar can, in a pinch, be a decent substitute that can't be done with plant-based.

karmageddon28 posted...

Although, milk and vinegar can, in a pinch, be a decent substitute that can't be done with plant-based.

It works well enough if the plant milk has enough fat in it, so one like soy or nut would be better than oat or rice.

Been using plant based milks exclusively since 2017. Haven't looked back. I'm not lactose intolerant. They just taste better, are better for you, better for the environment, the better ethical choice and last longer without going bad to boot. For me personally, I have no reason to get milk from a cow or a goat or whatever people still drink

Also dairy milk causes other issues even if you're not lactose intolerant. It can lower your testosterone, give you acme, make you have too much phlegm, etc

People need to stop being little bitches and get some fucking calcium. Any "milk" that has not come from an animal has more similar properties to water than milk.

ThyCorndog posted...

Been using plant based milks exclusively since 2017. Haven't looked back. I'm not lactose intolerant. They just taste better, are better for you, better for the environment, the better ethical choice and last longer without going bad to boot. For me personally, I have no reason to get milk from a cow or a goat or whatever people still drink

Also dairy milk causes other issues even if you're not lactose intolerant. It can lower your testosterone, give you acme, make you have too much phlegm, etc

Yep.

TendoDRM posted...

Cow milk is the only milk that actually tastes good to drink.

I'll never understand this plant "milk" fad.

I only use it on cereal, but I agree. Almond milk is gross. So is soy.

Have never had nut or bean juice that tasted as good as or better than the milk I get locally.

I started using oat milk in drinks and haven't gone back

Unsweetened almond milk here. It's really tough to go back to milk, even skim, once you get used to the texture of plant-based milks. Whole milk has the texture of snotty motor oil and even 1% or less has very slimy texture to it.

Ruvan22 posted...

Been using Lactaid or the store brand for a couple of decades now as excessive milk gave me extreme pain. Haven't tried oat/coconut/almond, what are the differences?

Oat is basically like taking the liquid out of a bowl of oatmeal and condensing it, it's nice with coffee. Coconut is rich and creamy, good for sauces. Almond tastes very watery.

Soy is my favorite. The one I get is vanilla with a low amount of sugar, it tastes great in smoothies and cereals.

Cereal? Cow's milk. Coffee? Soy milk. As long as it's from an actual cafe. We take our coffee seriously here it's not the putrid stuff you're served in the US.

How would you even extract milk from plants? I didnt even know they had milk in their bosoms

Cashew Milk tastes the best to me.

There's also a specific brand of soy milk that I really like but it's difficult to find and every soy milk tastes like shit by comparison.

I can see the signs all over that article; the propaganda is going to start moving toward: you're a bad person if you consume dairy.

Plant based stuff can be such crap too. Low to nonexistent in fat content while overly high in sodium and sugar. It's not healthier for you. It is also questionably better for the environment (stuff like almonds use a shit load of water, tbf, so do cows). Ethically, maybe you've got me there.
Either way, Big Nutrition/Food can fuck right off. They've done nothing but fuck with us as a society since the 90s and before.

KamenRiderBlade posted...

And many people get over their lactose intolerance by drinking dairy based milk, eating dairy based foods like cheese.

People's bodies evolve and adapt.

Uh, most people develop the intolerance over time. The human body doesn't really like milk after your early years.

I have eaten cheese regularly for 30+ years and my stomach can barely handle milk or ice cream anymore.

There's a company called Betterland Foods making an animal-free milk with real dairy proteins.

https://www.betterlandmilk.com/

iToro86 posted...

People need to stop being little bitches and get some fucking calcium. Any "milk" that has not come from an animal has more similar properties to water than milk.

just eat greens bro. they're the best source of calcium. where do you think cows got it from, or humans before they started drinking animal tiddy milk

Other, I never drink milk by itself. I use it for other things like cereal and cooking. Almond and oat milk are okay. Soy milk is gross. Cow milk is gross. Goat milk is gross. Whoever thought pea milk was a good idea, deserves a good hard kick to the ass.

While I love regular milk, I much rather Dark Chocolate Almond Milk. That said, Almond Milk at least for me doesn't blend well with Coffee. And I've tried Oat and Soy Milk and both kinds I cannot stand in my coffee. The only thing that tastes alright is partially evaporated milk or Coffee Cream. Also, Vanilla Almond Milk is great on cereal.

If I found an alternative to cow milk that we both liked I'd get it. Most of what I tried was pretty bad so far. Almond milk is awful.

Every type of milk is gross to me.

MabusIncarnate posted...

If I found an alternative to cow milk that we both liked I'd get it. Most of what I tried was pretty bad so far. Almond milk is awful.

try oat or cashew

I used Oat milk when making a smoothie and it was heavenly.

With cookies or with cereal I need 2% cow milk though. I only got oat milk because it was on sale that day at a deep discount

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Oatmilk ftw

I love cow milk.

Cow milk. Other milk (plant or whatever) is usually ok. But not so much with cereal or other stuff I usually eat with milk (cookies, chocolate, etc.) And cow milk just taste better to me

I buy local beef milk for my coffee.

Legato-and-Vash posted...

Even before alternative milk took off, I never knew anyone who just straight up liked the taste of dairy milk. Most people I know would say drinking plain milk is gross.

Really? I knew quite a few. Especially my best friend. She drank dairy milk all the time. I do drink it quite often, as well Even without cookies and cereal. Sometimes, I like a glass of milk

ThyCorndog posted...

try oat or cashew

Oat milk isn't good either, I think it's okay but the wife doesn't like it. I'll look out for cashew.

Soy milk is yum. Especially vanilla.

TheGoldenEel posted...

coconut milk is a great substitute in many applications

i recently made, for example, a potato soup with coconut milk instead of cream, and you couldnt tell the difference

(although again, coconut milk is a completely different thing from nut milks)

Never tried coconut milk, but I think coconut is pretty high in fat so that makes sense

iToro86 posted...

People need to stop being little bitches and get some fucking calcium. Any "milk" that has not come from an animal has more similar properties to water than milk.

How ironic. Anyway who are you to tell people what's better for them? Doubt you're a Dr or nutritionist. There's lots wrong with most cow milks. Besides those being lactose intolerant you have hormones and anti biotics to deal with as well. Not to mention it still has a decent amount of sugar. You can get calcium, vitamin d from plenty of other sources as well.

Just don't give any attention to people like him. Yeah plant milks aren't 100% perfect, they are relatively processed, depending on the type and brand, but it's way healthier, cheaper, more sustainable, ethical and environmentally friendly than cow's milk. Especially when you consider the fact that at least 9/10 cows are infected with bovine leukemia, which is a cancer causing virus (particularly breast cancer).

I prefer plant milk for consistency. Milk kind of varies in quality from gallon to gallon.