Current Events > Texas Gov. Greg Abbot directs DFPS to investigate all trans kids in Texas

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MachineJaipur
02/23/22 7:47:31 PM
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https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1496511215719399431

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Relient_K
02/23/22 7:53:59 PM
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Can I just... sincerely appologize, especially to any trans users here, that about 3-4 years ago I would have agreed with this/thought this was a good idea? I still have a long way to go in understanding the LGBT+ community, but I'm sorry that there was once a version of myself that would have approved of this.

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Stewman_Magoo
02/23/22 7:55:34 PM
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Wow that's fucked up

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hockeybub89
02/23/22 7:55:59 PM
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Government so small it investigates the existence of minorities

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ssj3vegeta
02/23/22 7:57:46 PM
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Republicans will win in 2022 and do dis nationwide too i bet

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hockeybub89
02/23/22 7:58:51 PM
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The future of freedom is not bright for America.

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UnholyMudcrab
02/23/22 7:59:12 PM
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It's far past time to lock Abbott in a room at the bottom of a set of stairs

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Tyranthraxus
02/23/22 8:04:28 PM
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Party of small government

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DrizztLink
02/23/22 8:06:27 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Party of small dick government


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hockeybub89
02/23/22 8:09:53 PM
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Republicans: *outlaws trans people*

Trans people and allies: "Fuck you, fascists"

Republicans: "How are we all supposed to get along when you're so intolerant of differing opinions? You're just proving us right."

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Machete
02/23/22 8:22:06 PM
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Relient_K posted...
Can I just... sincerely appologize, especially to any trans users here, that about 3-4 years ago I would have agreed with this/thought this was a good idea? I still have a long way to go in understanding the LGBT+ community, but I'm sorry that there was once a version of myself that would have approved of this.

I remember you from that time period, and I appreciate this post, especially in context of how I remember you.

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ScazarMeltex
02/23/22 8:24:33 PM
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Same thing I post in every topic when this shit comes up.
Trans people were one of the very first groups that the Nazis set their sights on. They were already an extreme minority and outside of certain parts of Berlin they were already extremely "othered". They also targeted doctors who treated them and scientists who did research on the subject of transgenderism. Anyone who cheers for this shit is already walking the same road as the Germans. Fuck anyone who supports this shit.
https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/

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DoctorPiranha3
02/23/22 8:39:44 PM
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Can conservatives please evolve past the stone age, at any point in time?
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Weezy_Tha_Don
02/23/22 8:49:59 PM
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holy shit

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Scintillant
02/23/22 8:51:08 PM
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Greg Abbott can go get fucked

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Houston
02/23/22 8:53:21 PM
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What does Texas consider "sex change" procedures and do other states allow them? I was under the impression you had to be 18 to get reassignment surgery in any state, but I could be wrong.

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/23/22 8:53:52 PM
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We need another tree

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sondast
02/23/22 8:55:40 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Same thing I post in every topic when this shit comes up.
Trans people were one of the very first groups that the Nazis set their sights on. They were already an extreme minority and outside of certain parts of Berlin they were already extremely "othered". They also targeted doctors who treated them and scientists who did research on the subject of transgenderism. Anyone who cheers for this shit is already walking the same road as the Germans. Fuck anyone who supports this shit.
https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/
Just to add, before the fascists took over, lgbt+ people could freely live in Germany. Thats why all of the gay Nazis thought they would be safe.

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ScazarMeltex
02/23/22 9:19:09 PM
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sondast posted...
Just to add, before the fascists took over, lgbt+ people could freely live in Germany. Thats why all of the gay Nazis thought they would be safe.
Yes and no. Weimar Germany was certainly more progressive than it was under the Kaiser, it was still a relatively conservative country. Homosexuality was mostly accepted within urban centers, or if not accepted than at least not oppressed. Rural areas were a bit less tolerant. Berlin (which Hitler hated during his rise to power because he thought it a den of degeneracy) specifically was a sort of Mecca for the LGBTQ community of Europe. It was full of gay bars, theaters, and cafes.

This article should point out how quickly social progress can be destroyed by a determined conservative party.
https://theconversation.com/how-the-nazis-destroyed-the-first-gay-rights-movement-80354

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Cheeze_E_Breath
02/23/22 9:23:50 PM
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I won't be sad when Greg Abbott inevitably passes away. Fuck him.
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gunplagirl
02/24/22 9:30:07 AM
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Relient_K posted...
Can I just... sincerely appologize, especially to any trans users here, that about 3-4 years ago I would have agreed with this/thought this was a good idea? I still have a long way to go in understanding the LGBT+ community, but I'm sorry that there was once a version of myself that would have approved of this.
I might not accept the apology but I do appreciate the self awareness and honesty necessary to make an apology post like this. I wish you well on improving your understanding of the situation and finally being able to see the true danger of these laws.

As I have said for years, it's never just about one thing or another. It's always about bigots pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable. If they go too far, they back off just enough to find a lesser version that's just socially acceptable enough that they can erode our rights. And then the next time they push for whatever they originally targeted, it'll seem that much less extreme in comparison. They'll inch their way to their end goal by slowly dehumanizing us in law, even though the entire time they had been ranting loudly about how much they hate all of us even existing. It's why we must never let them get any victories on trans rights. Because none of their advances have actually benefited or protected anyone except for making bigotry more normalized in discussions that ought to never have been allowed to happen.

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TheOtherMike
02/24/22 9:42:42 AM
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The Republican Party are literally domestic terrorists.
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Southernfatman
02/24/22 9:45:31 AM
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The cruelty is the point. A main tenet of conservatism is being cruel to people they see as beneath them. If you still support the GOP you are an objectively awful human being.

ssj3vegeta posted...
Republicans will win in 2022 and do dis nationwide too i bet

It's pretty much guaranteed. Democrats aren't interested in stopping them.

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Sir Will
02/24/22 10:17:53 AM
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Monstrous.

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creativerealms
02/24/22 10:21:25 AM
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Wow. He is evil.

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DowntownMrSmith
02/24/22 10:22:28 AM
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Houston posted...
What does Texas consider "sex change" procedures and do other states allow them? I was under the impression you had to be 18 to get reassignment surgery in any state, but I could be wrong.

The bill is banning puberty blockers and other medical procedures in people under 18. Those over 18 were always free to do what they want.

I dont think the bill is motivated by hate as much as a concern our society is moving too fast with a record number of minors now transitioning. It seems theres also a factual dispute as to whether puberty blockers cause permanent sterilization that needs to be discussed, and a debate about whether a minor can really give informed consent.

Ordering the state to investigate parents of trans kids for child abuse definitely goes too far though.
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gunplagirl
02/24/22 10:26:53 AM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
The bill is banning puberty blockers and other medical procedures in people under 18. Those over 18 were always free to do what they want.

I dont think the bill is motivated by hate as much as a concern our society is moving too fast with a record number of minors now transitioning. It seems theres also a factual dispute as to whether puberty blockers cause permanent sterilization that needs to be discussed, and a debate about whether a minor can really give informed consent.

Ordering the state to investigate parents of trans kids for child abuse definitely goes too far though.
Historically most people didn't even start puberty until they were 16-19, mostly as a result of insufficient dietary needs being met and the lack of an adequate amount of body fat. Most people on puberty blockers are only on it until they're about 13-15 at which time they will have been able to satisfy the requirements to finally begin hormone replacement therapy... no more than a year or two after the majority of their peers but still within the general bell curve. The only people who have had long term issues from it were people who started it by the age of 10 and didn't start HRT until they were 16. And that's fallen out of style because doctors realized the issue. Still the case in the UK because of long as hell wait times for all like 3 clinics in the entire country. :(

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Giant_Aspirin
02/24/22 10:29:12 AM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Can conservatives please evolve past the stone age, at any point in time?

their entire modus operandi is to resist any and all changes and to regress society as much as possible

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Tom Clark
02/24/22 10:29:25 AM
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Jesus Fucking Christ, they're not just taking the mask off here, they flinging the mask on the fire and burning it (alongside their books).

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COVxy
02/24/22 10:32:19 AM
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This is fucked.

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fire_bolt
02/24/22 10:41:33 AM
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Anybody else about ready to turn the Geneva Convention into a goddamn checklist over shit like this? Fuck Republicans and anyone else who thinks this is OK regardless of affiliation

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CyricZ
02/24/22 10:58:08 AM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
The bill is banning puberty blockers and other medical procedures in people under 18.
It's important to state that this is not a bill. This has not gone through the Texas state legislature.

It's people in executive power using their interpretation of existing laws (in this case child abuse) in order to establish control over trans kids, their families, and anyone who supports them.

It's not about puberty blockers.

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GrandConjuraton
02/24/22 11:03:30 AM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
Wow that's fucked up
Things like this are prime examples of why humans are a failed species. It's extremely depressing.

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creativerealms
02/24/22 11:46:10 AM
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First they argue parents need to have a say, then they want to punish parents that say yes their kids can start transitioning. And it won't stop there.

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ElatedVenusaur
02/24/22 12:08:28 PM
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creativerealms posted...
First they argue parents need to have a say, then they want to punish parents that say yes their kids can start transitioning. And it won't stop there.
Well, parents are only allowed to have a say when they have "correct" opinions. Just like everyone else!

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IndorilGawain
02/24/22 12:09:44 PM
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Parents only get a say in preventing their kids from learning about slavery and the Holocaust, or whether or not their kid needs to be vaccinated or wear a mask.

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Ruvan22
02/24/22 1:52:55 PM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
The bill is banning puberty blockers and other medical procedures in people under 18. Those over 18 were always free to do what they want.

I dont think the bill is motivated by hate as much as a concern our society is moving too fast with a record number of minors now transitioning. It seems theres also a factual dispute as to whether puberty blockers cause permanent sterilization that needs to be discussed, and a debate about whether a minor can really give informed consent.

Ordering the state to investigate parents of trans kids for child abuse definitely goes too far though.
Do you have a link to the "record numbers"? As in the change you are claiming?
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