Poll of the Day > So Russia's conflict with Ukraine begins

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Judgmenl 02/21/22 4:36:33 PM #1:	https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1495873188663861264?s=20&t=i4keV0EblMGu8F2NBv6Gsw --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962844721] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1495873188663861264?s=20&t=i4keV0EblMGu8F2NBv6Gsw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 02/21/22 4:44:34 PM #2:	Hope your fallout shelters are ready cus shit is about to get toasty. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:962844965] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Hope your fallout shelters are ready cus shit is about to get toasty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 02/21/22 4:52:02 PM #3:	So he shelled his allies positions last week and now he is using it as justification for a "peacekeeping mission" fun --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:962845207] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>So he shelled his allies positions last week and now he is using it as justification for a "peacekeeping mission" fun </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 02/21/22 5:10:37 PM #4:	CBC News: Putin orders forces to maintain peace in Eastern Ukraine after recognizing separatist regions. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-russian-security-council-eastern-ukraine-1.6359253 From actual news instead of Twitter --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:962845703] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>CBC News: Putin orders forces to maintain peace in Eastern Ukraine after recognizing separatist regions. https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-russian-security-council-eastern-ukraine-1.6359253 From actual news instead of Twitter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/21/22 5:36:07 PM #5:	https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1495889247009742854 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962846401] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1495889247009742854 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoSioType 02/21/22 5:39:27 PM #6:	Do the fallout shelters come with wifi and anime body pillows? <cite>NeoSioType posted [p:962846488] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Do the fallout shelters come with wifi and anime body pillows? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 02/21/22 5:42:29 PM #7:	NeoSioType posted... Do the fallout shelters come with wifi and anime body pillows? No. They came with Putin body pillows. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. - Venat <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:962846583] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>NeoSioType posted... </cite> <quote>Do the fallout shelters come with wifi and anime body pillows?</quote> No. They came with Putin body pillows. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 02/21/22 6:10:52 PM #8:	SinisterSlay posted... actual news Max Seddon is the Moscow Bureau Chief for the Financial Times aka Actual News But I can see how that would be confusing if you don't already know who he is (or don't want to click through to his twitter profile) --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:962847394] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>SinisterSlay posted... </cite> <quote>actual news</quote> Max Seddon is the Moscow Bureau Chief for the Financial Times aka Actual News But I can see how that would be confusing if you don't already know who he is (or don't want to click through to his twitter profile) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 02/21/22 6:16:16 PM #9:	Enjoy your sanctions, Vlad. Have fun going broke in a couple months. --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead <cite>Zareth posted [p:962847548] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Enjoy your sanctions, Vlad. Have fun going broke in a couple months. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 02/21/22 6:17:50 PM #10:	Zareth posted... Enjoy your sanctions, Vlad. Have fun going broke in a couple months. Not likely. Their trade with China and other Russia-centric nations will likely keep them afloat. It may hurt, but they won't go broke. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. - Venat <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:962847592] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite> <quote>Enjoy your sanctions, Vlad. Have fun going broke in a couple months.</quote> Not likely. Their trade with China and other Russia-centric nations will likely keep them afloat. It may hurt, but they won't go broke. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 02/21/22 6:26:54 PM #11:	China has been oddly quiet. --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:962847851] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>China has been oddly quiet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 02/21/22 6:27:12 PM #12:	Unbridled9 posted... they won't go broke. They are going to have a hard time accessing a significant portion of their funds that are housed in Western allied banking institutions though. I can see the sanctions also seizing their Western owned properties. Of course this might actually be a windfall for Trump; his loans from Deutsche Bank where backed by the Kremlin and they are coming due (this year iirc) he may be able to successfully argue that the new sanctions legally prevent him from repaying those loans. Of course he would have to admit that his loans were indeed backed by the Kremlin, which would open a whole other can of worms all on it's own... --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:962847861] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Unbridled9 posted... </cite> <quote>they won't go broke.</quote> They are going to have a hard time accessing a significant portion of their funds that are housed in Western allied banking institutions though. I can see the sanctions also seizing their Western owned properties. Of course this might actually be a windfall for Trump; his loans from Deutsche Bank where backed by the Kremlin and they are coming due (this year iirc) he may be able to successfully argue that the new sanctions legally prevent him from repaying those loans. Of course he would have to admit that his loans were indeed backed by the Kremlin, which would open a whole other can of worms all on it's own... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 02/21/22 6:31:39 PM #13:	So far the sanctions are just blocking new investment. Big deal... --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:962847989] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>So far the sanctions are just blocking new investment. Big deal... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/21/22 6:49:34 PM #14:	https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495907758004183044 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962848473] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1495907758004183044 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JimBeamMeUp 02/21/22 6:52:23 PM #15:	From The Guardian: "18.48 EST Earlier we reported that Vladimir Putin ordered his military to enter the Russian-controlled areas of south-east Ukraine following a decision to recognise the territories as independent states. We now have video released by Ukraine appearing to show a column of military vehicles with their headlights on moving in convoy along a road. The officials said it was not possible to tell if the troops belonged to the regular Russian army, or were from Russian-controlled separatist units." Also all State department personnel that had been previously relocated to eastern Ukraine have been order to leave for Poland immediately. --- Stop asking me. It was the clue on Wheel of Fortune when I made the account to ask a question about Faxanadu. Shrugs <cite>JimBeamMeUp posted [p:962848552] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>From The Guardian: <quote>"18.48 EST Earlier we reported that Vladimir Putin ordered his military to enter the Russian-controlled areas of south-east Ukraine following a decision to recognise the territories as independent states. We now have video released by Ukraine appearing to show a column of military vehicles with their headlights on moving in convoy along a road. The officials said it was not possible to tell if the troops belonged to the regular Russian army, or were from Russian-controlled separatist units."</quote> Also all State department personnel that had been previously relocated to eastern Ukraine have been order to leave for Poland immediately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 02/21/22 7:04:24 PM #16:	SinisterSlay posted... So far the sanctions are just blocking new investment. SinisterSlay posted... So far They will ramp up as they attribute more actions to Russian aggression. There was the cyber attacks on Ukraine last week that are still "unattributed" but will incur sanctions when they are officially attributed to Russia. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:962848860] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>SinisterSlay posted... </cite> <quote>So far the sanctions are just blocking new investment.</quote> SinisterSlay posted... </cite> <quote>So far</quote> They will ramp up as they attribute more actions to Russian aggression. There was the cyber attacks on Ukraine last week that are still "unattributed" but will incur sanctions when they are officially attributed to Russia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/21/22 7:12:17 PM #17:	https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1495912345184387073 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962849070] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1495912345184387073 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/21/22 8:15:06 PM #18:	https://twitter.com/MargoGontar/status/1495928394336374786 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962850773] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/MargoGontar/status/1495928394336374786 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 02/21/22 8:27:31 PM #19:	I hoped We wouldn't see this day --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:962851109] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>I hoped We wouldn't see this day </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BEERandWEED 02/21/22 8:31:44 PM #20:	Capitalist love war. --- Always have a hamms in hand. <cite>BEERandWEED posted [p:962851193] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Capitalist love war. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/22/22 11:52:17 AM #21:	Shit is hitting the fan right now: https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496162056273371140 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962866929] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Shit is hitting the fan right now: https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1496162056273371140 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teddy241 02/22/22 11:55:11 AM #22:	WW3. a desperate Russia is a dangerous one. NATO needs to be ready to roll <cite>teddy241 posted [p:962866998] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>WW3. a desperate Russia is a dangerous one. NATO needs to be ready to roll </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/22/22 11:55:39 AM #23:	Here's a kicker - what if the guv of Ukraine pulls the rug out and says something like "Ok, Donbas is now a new country - lets go to the negotiating table" I mean, obviously Ukraine doesn't want to lose territory - but such a move would call Putin's "Peacekeeping Mission" bluff --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:962867010] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Here's a kicker - what if the guv of Ukraine pulls the rug out and says something like "Ok, Donbas is now a new country - lets go to the negotiating table" I mean, obviously Ukraine doesn't want to lose territory - but such a move would call Putin's "Peacekeeping Mission" bluff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 02/22/22 11:58:34 AM #24:	BEERandWEED posted... Capitalist love war. Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 34: War is good for business. Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 35: Peace is good for business. Way I take that is that both war and peace are good for business and you should look at both as opportunities to earn money. Especially since rule 9 is 'Opportunity plus instinct equals profit.' --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. - Venat <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:962867084] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>BEERandWEED posted... </cite> <quote>Capitalist love war.</quote> Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 34: War is good for business. Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 35: Peace is good for business. Way I take that is that both war and peace are good for business and you should look at both as opportunities to earn money. Especially since rule 9 is 'Opportunity plus instinct equals profit.' </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 02/22/22 11:59:16 AM #25:	papercup posted... Hope your fallout shelters are ready cus shit is about to get toasty. Revelation34 posted... Paranoid delusions. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:962867106] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted...</cite> <quote>Hope your fallout shelters are ready cus shit is about to get toasty. </quote> <cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote> Paranoid delusions.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wpot 02/22/22 12:14:04 PM #26:	Here's how this will go: 1) Putin wasn't going to put all of that on the border and do nothing: it would look like he backed down. 2) If he were going to attack Kiev he'd be doing it now 3) Putin has to know that internal Russian support for what he is doing would ebb quickly if Russia took many casualties attacking Ukraine. Russians can see what's going on. 4) Therefore, this is the "big move"...and it probably ends here militarily after a lot of yelling and sanctions. Given that Russia already occupies these areas there shouldn't be a huge battle. 5) The sanctions will be harder to implement and maintain given that these chunks are less important, frankly, than Crimea. Given everything said over the winter they will certainly be placed, but they will fade away after the world's attention shifts and someone sees a need to extend an olive branch to Russia. Putin/Russia will survive with China's help for those few years. 6) So...this will feel a lot like the Crimea episode after a few years. Maybe he'll bite off another chunk in a few more years if it suits him politically. Or maybe he'll infiltrate Ukraine's elections and get someone elected that he likes. Or maybe someone in Russia will actually figure out how to topple him. He's accomplished what he claimed to want in the Russian media (protection for the theoretically oppressed Russians) and defied the West. Politically that's what he wanted to do. --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:962867432] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Here's how this will go: 1) Putin wasn't going to put all of that on the border and do nothing: it would look like he backed down. 2) If he were going to attack Kiev he'd be doing it now 3) Putin has to know that internal Russian support for what he is doing would ebb quickly if Russia took many casualties attacking Ukraine. Russians can see what's going on. 4) Therefore, this is the "big move"...and it probably ends here militarily after a lot of yelling and sanctions. Given that Russia already occupies these areas there shouldn't be a huge battle. 5) The sanctions will be harder to implement and maintain given that these chunks are less important, frankly, than Crimea. Given everything said over the winter they will certainly be placed, but they will fade away after the world's attention shifts and someone sees a need to extend an olive branch to Russia. Putin/Russia will survive with China's help for those few years. 6) So...this will feel a lot like the Crimea episode after a few years. Maybe he'll bite off another chunk in a few more years if it suits him politically. Or maybe he'll infiltrate Ukraine's elections and get someone elected that he likes. Or maybe someone in Russia will actually figure out how to topple him. He's accomplished what he claimed to want in the Russian media (protection for the theoretically oppressed Russians) and defied the West. Politically that's what he wanted to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/22/22 12:48:21 PM #27:	https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1496178582036652033 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962868300] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1496178582036652033 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unbridled9 02/22/22 2:55:34 PM #28:	wpot posted... Here's how this will go: 1) Putin wasn't going to put all of that on the border and do nothing: it would look like he backed down. 2) If he were going to attack Kiev he'd be doing it now 3) Putin has to know that internal Russian support for what he is doing would ebb quickly if Russia took many casualties attacking Ukraine. Russians can see what's going on. 4) Therefore, this is the "big move"...and it probably ends here militarily after a lot of yelling and sanctions. Given that Russia already occupies these areas there shouldn't be a huge battle. 5) The sanctions will be harder to implement and maintain given that these chunks are less important, frankly, than Crimea. Given everything said over the winter they will certainly be placed, but they will fade away after the world's attention shifts and someone sees a need to extend an olive branch to Russia. Putin/Russia will survive with China's help for those few years. 6) So...this will feel a lot like the Crimea episode after a few years. Maybe he'll bite off another chunk in a few more years if it suits him politically. Or maybe he'll infiltrate Ukraine's elections and get someone elected that he likes. Or maybe someone in Russia will actually figure out how to topple him. He's accomplished what he claimed to want in the Russian media (protection for the theoretically oppressed Russians) and defied the West. Politically that's what he wanted to do. I disagree with point 2. I feel he's likely either to claim the region then, when Kiev attacks, claim they were being hostile and aggressive and needed to be 'pacified' or something. Alternatively, he'll keep finding 'pro-Russia citizens' that need to be 'rescued' or whatever until there's no more Ukraine left. Then it will be on to, likely, Poland in so far as Europe is concerned (though I expect him to work on the asian nations first). --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. - Venat <cite>Unbridled9 posted [p:962871884] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>wpot posted... </cite> <quote>Here's how this will go: 1) Putin wasn't going to put all of that on the border and do nothing: it would look like he backed down. 2) If he were going to attack Kiev he'd be doing it now 3) Putin has to know that internal Russian support for what he is doing would ebb quickly if Russia took many casualties attacking Ukraine. Russians can see what's going on. 4) Therefore, this is the "big move"...and it probably ends here militarily after a lot of yelling and sanctions. Given that Russia already occupies these areas there shouldn't be a huge battle. 5) The sanctions will be harder to implement and maintain given that these chunks are less important, frankly, than Crimea. Given everything said over the winter they will certainly be placed, but they will fade away after the world's attention shifts and someone sees a need to extend an olive branch to Russia. Putin/Russia will survive with China's help for those few years. 6) So...this will feel a lot like the Crimea episode after a few years. Maybe he'll bite off another chunk in a few more years if it suits him politically. Or maybe he'll infiltrate Ukraine's elections and get someone elected that he likes. Or maybe someone in Russia will actually figure out how to topple him. He's accomplished what he claimed to want in the Russian media (protection for the theoretically oppressed Russians) and defied the West. Politically that's what he wanted to do.</quote> I disagree with point 2. I feel he's likely either to claim the region then, when Kiev attacks, claim they were being hostile and aggressive and needed to be 'pacified' or something. Alternatively, he'll keep finding 'pro-Russia citizens' that need to be 'rescued' or whatever until there's no more Ukraine left. Then it will be on to, likely, Poland in so far as Europe is concerned (though I expect him to work on the asian nations first). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Viscount 02/22/22 3:43:05 PM #31:	So Russia's conflict with Ukraine begins The conflict began ages ago. CENSOR Max Seddon is the Moscow Bureau Chief for the Financial Times aka Actual News But I can see how that would be confusing if you don't already know who he is (or don't want to click through to his twitter profile) CENSOR POSTED Max Seddon is the Moscow Bureau Chief for the Financial Times aka Actual News But I can see how that would be confusing if you don't already know who he is (or don't want to click through to his twitter profile) ...his avatar is a bear and his banner is Vin Diesel. Nothing about that screams "Professional journalist" and I'm not how legit the Financial Times is if this is their representative. Up until now, I'd never heard of it, but I guess it's British so that probably played a part. Zareth posted... Enjoy your sanctions, Vlad. Have fun going broke in a couple months. cue laugh track As the media is quick to point out, the impact isn't expected to be huge, considering we've had sanctions on them for years now and the right industries aren't necessarily being targeted. CENSOR Of course this might actually be a windfall for Trump; his loans from Deutsche Bank where backed by the Kremlin and they are coming due (this year iirc) he may be able to successfully argue that the new sanctions legally prevent him from repaying those loans. Of course he would have to admit that his loans were indeed backed by the Kremlin, which would open a whole other can of worms all on it's own... I wondered where all the tinfoil went... BEERandWEED posted... Capitalist love war. All governments love war, it's how governments justify their existence. --- Woken LLC <cite>The_Viscount posted [p:962873075] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote><quote>So Russia's conflict with Ukraine begins</quote> The conflict began ages ago. CENSOR <quote>Max Seddon is the Moscow Bureau Chief for the Financial Times aka Actual News But I can see how that would be confusing if you don't already know who he is (or don't want to click through to his twitter profile)</quote> CENSOR POSTED <quote>Max Seddon is the Moscow Bureau Chief for the Financial Times aka Actual News But I can see how that would be confusing if you don't already know who he is (or don't want to click through to his twitter profile)</quote> ...his avatar is a bear and his banner is Vin Diesel. Nothing about that screams "Professional journalist" and I'm not how legit the Financial Times is if this is their representative. Up until now, I'd never heard of it, but I guess it's British so that probably played a part. Zareth posted... </cite> <quote>Enjoy your sanctions, Vlad. Have fun going broke in a couple months.</quote> cue laugh track As the media is quick to point out, the impact isn't expected to be huge, considering we've had sanctions on them for years now and the right industries aren't necessarily being targeted. CENSOR <quote>Of course this might actually be a windfall for Trump; his loans from Deutsche Bank where backed by the Kremlin and they are coming due (this year iirc) he may be able to successfully argue that the new sanctions legally prevent him from repaying those loans. Of course he would have to admit that his loans were indeed backed by the Kremlin, which would open a whole other can of worms all on it's own...</quote> I wondered where all the tinfoil went... BEERandWEED posted... </cite> <quote>Capitalist love war.</quote> All governments love war, it's how governments justify their existence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Viscount 02/22/22 3:43:10 PM #32:	teddy241 posted... WW3. a desperate Russia is a dangerous one. NATO needs to be ready to roll cue laugh track No, it's going to lead to "WW3" for countless obvious reasons. wpot posted... 2) If he were going to attack Kiev he'd be doing it now tbh, those claims are generally going to be Western fear-mongering in attempt to justify support. A takeover of Kiev has always been absurdly unlikely. --- Woken LLC <cite>The_Viscount posted [p:962873080] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote> teddy241 posted... </cite> <quote>WW3. a desperate Russia is a dangerous one. NATO needs to be ready to roll</quote> cue laugh track No, it's going to lead to "WW3" for countless obvious reasons. wpot posted... </cite> <quote>2) If he were going to attack Kiev he'd be doing it now</quote> tbh, those claims are generally going to be Western fear-mongering in attempt to justify support. A takeover of Kiev has always been absurdly unlikely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wpot 02/22/22 4:41:02 PM #33:	The_Viscount posted... tbh, those claims are generally going to be Western fear-mongering in attempt to justify support. A takeover of Kiev has always been absurdly unlikely. I agree: entering into brutal urban warfare does not appear to be in Putin's best interest. Unbridled9 posted... I disagree with point 2. I feel he's likely either to claim the region then, when Kiev attacks, claim they were being hostile and aggressive and needed to be 'pacified' or something. Alternatively, he'll keep finding 'pro-Russia citizens' that need to be 'rescued' or whatever until there's no more Ukraine left. Then it will be on to, likely, Poland in so far as Europe is concerned (though I expect him to work on the asian nations first). See above. I agree that he'll keep finding areas to complain about and shift attention over time, but I believe he will continue to take slow bites over time (and create buffer/rump states dependent on Russia) without initiating major war. His "hand" isn't good enough to undergo sustained urban warfare and resistance movements as would happen with somewhere like Kiev. Anyways, in the long run none of this does anything good for Russia: it keeps them a semi-pariah on the world stage and gets them...what? Occupation over a couple areas with few resources? It may or may not help keep Putin in power and satisfy his/their need to feel powerful, which is certainly his main concern...but it's a bad deal for Russia. Point being: this is counterproductive and they can't keep acting like this forever. (Although they can keep doing it for the foreseeable short term future if they prefer feeling powerful to economic activity) --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:962874661] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>The_Viscount posted... </cite> <quote>tbh, those claims are generally going to be Western fear-mongering in attempt to justify support. A takeover of Kiev has always been absurdly unlikely.</quote>I agree: entering into brutal urban warfare does not appear to be in Putin's best interest. Unbridled9 posted... </cite> <quote>I disagree with point 2. I feel he's likely either to claim the region then, when Kiev attacks, claim they were being hostile and aggressive and needed to be 'pacified' or something. Alternatively, he'll keep finding 'pro-Russia citizens' that need to be 'rescued' or whatever until there's no more Ukraine left. Then it will be on to, likely, Poland in so far as Europe is concerned (though I expect him to work on the asian nations first).</quote>See above. I agree that he'll keep finding areas to complain about and shift attention over time, but I believe he will continue to take slow bites over time (and create buffer/rump states dependent on Russia) without initiating major war. His "hand" isn't good enough to undergo sustained urban warfare and resistance movements as would happen with somewhere like Kiev. Anyways, in the long run none of this does anything good for Russia: it keeps them a semi-pariah on the world stage and gets them...what? Occupation over a couple areas with few resources? It may or may not help keep Putin in power and satisfy his/their need to feel powerful, which is certainly his main concern...but it's a bad deal for Russia. Point being: this is counterproductive and they can't keep acting like this forever. (Although they can keep doing it for the foreseeable short term future if they prefer feeling powerful to economic activity) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soup_or_Science 02/22/22 5:58:41 PM #34:	Russia is just mad that I started courting with [one of their] femboys. That's all it is, I promise to god. --- "the great nation of Japan" -Nanaue <cite>Soup_or_Science posted [p:962876876] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Russia is just mad that I started courting with [one of their] femboys. That's all it is, I promise to god. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Soup_or_Science 02/23/22 2:35:59 AM #35:	heh heh heh just saw putin on the tube --- "the great nation of Japan" -Nanaue <cite>Soup_or_Science posted [p:962887693] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>heh heh heh just saw putin on the tube </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/23/22 4:09:04 PM #36:	https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1496587819569098758 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962903508] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1496587819569098758 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 02/23/22 4:23:42 PM #37:	Judgmenl posted... https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1496587819569098758 I just hope the true Ukrainians get out of those areas before the real war begins. --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:962903873] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1496587819569098758</quote>I just hope the true Ukrainians get out of those areas before the real war begins. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/23/22 5:15:42 PM #38:	Looks like the Cyber warfare has already started and airports are starting to shut down. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962905352] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Looks like the Cyber warfare has already started and airports are starting to shut down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/23/22 5:44:34 PM #39:	https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news/card/malware-detected-in-ukraine-as-invasion-threat-looms-NaVfMTy8x0v41PyZNuzo --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962906173] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news/card/malware-detected-in-ukraine-as-invasion-threat-looms-NaVfMTy8x0v41PyZNuzo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 02/23/22 6:11:56 PM #40:	The cyber attacks started a couple of weeks ago, but Western intelligence did not want to publicly attribute it to Russia as they would have had to impose sanctions right then and there. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:962907008] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>The cyber attacks started a couple of weeks ago, but Western intelligence did not want to publicly attribute it to Russia as they would have had to impose sanctions right then and there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/23/22 6:13:51 PM #41:	https://twitter.com/don_standeford/status/1496621925564841987?s=21 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962907043] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/don_standeford/status/1496621925564841987?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/23/22 7:31:24 PM #42:	https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1496643487395196928 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962909449] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1496643487395196928 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 02/23/22 7:50:25 PM #43:	Do we have any of the conspiracy people framing this as "America planned this out and caused this to start a war"? We were all getting along so well itt I thought I'd ruin that. --- why am I even here <cite>Yellow posted [p:962910018] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Do we have any of the conspiracy people framing this as "America planned this out and caused this to start a war"? We were all getting along so well itt I thought I'd ruin that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/23/22 9:01:07 PM #44:	https://mobile.twitter.com/DrAlakbarov/status/1496662247682236425 --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962911999] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/DrAlakbarov/status/1496662247682236425 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BEERandWEED 02/23/22 9:05:16 PM #45:	Yellow posted... Do we have any of the conspiracy people framing this as "America planned this out and caused this to start a war"? We were all getting along so well itt I thought I'd ruin that. I'm certain one or more of the American warmongers are enjoying their profits illegally. --- Always have a hamms in hand. <cite>BEERandWEED posted [p:962912118] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>Do we have any of the conspiracy people framing this as "America planned this out and caused this to start a war"? We were all getting along so well itt I thought I'd ruin that.</quote>I'm certain one or more of the American warmongers are enjoying their profits illegally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/23/22 9:29:22 PM #46:	Yellow posted... Do we have any of the conspiracy people framing this as "America planned this out and caused this to start a war"? On the contrary, This is Putin's last ditch effort at relevancy - the conspiracy is that Putin is behind all the QAnon stuff as well as the anti-vax movement --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:962912812] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>Do we have any of the conspiracy people framing this as "America planned this out and caused this to start a war"?</quote> On the contrary, This is Putin's last ditch effort at relevancy - the conspiracy is that Putin is behind all the QAnon stuff as well as the anti-vax movement </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 02/23/22 9:41:45 PM #47:	Lokarin posted... the conspiracy is that Putin is behind all the QAnon stuff as well as the anti-vax movement Although we don't know who the the original Q is, (cough Michael Flynn cough) it was very clearly co-opted by 8chan admin CodeMonkeyZ (Ron Watkins) and his father and site owner Jim Watkins. The anti-vax movement predates the pandemic, but there has been amplification from many groups looking to destabilize western democracy, which does include Russia. But yes, to say it's all Putin is off base. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:962913204] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>the conspiracy is that Putin is behind all the QAnon stuff as well as the anti-vax movement</quote> Although we don't know who the the original Q is, (cough Michael Flynn cough) it was very clearly co-opted by 8chan admin CodeMonkeyZ (Ron Watkins) and his father and site owner Jim Watkins. The anti-vax movement predates the pandemic, but there has been amplification from many groups looking to destabilize western democracy, which does include Russia. But yes, to say it's all Putin is off base. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SinisterSlay 02/23/22 9:42:28 PM #48:	Judgmenl posted... https://mobile.twitter.com/DrAlakbarov/status/1496662247682236425 Jesus... Do we think that's the "rebels" still or main force vs main force and open war? --- He who stumbles around in darkness with a stick is blind. But he who... sticks out in darkness... is... fluorescent! - Brother Silence Lose 50 experience <cite>SinisterSlay posted [p:962913219] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite> <quote>https://mobile.twitter.com/DrAlakbarov/status/1496662247682236425</quote>Jesus... Do we think that's the "rebels" still or main force vs main force and open war? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/23/22 9:50:36 PM #49:	The US Government suspects fullblown Invasion of unoccupied Ukraine right now. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962913443] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>The US Government suspects fullblown Invasion of unoccupied Ukraine right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 02/23/22 9:52:25 PM #50:	https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1496678639911510024 Putin just spoke. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Not removing this until I've left March 2020. <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:962913490] in So Russia'... [t:79909292]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1496678639911510024 Putin just spoke. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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