Board 8 > Board 8 Ranks Animated Movies 3 - The Rankings

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Zithers posted...

i think we're just asking you to grow out of your diapers and present something better than 7th grade book report criticism.

why, though

Inviso posted...

I'm sorry, but I DID spend a month watching all of these movies, and I was FAR more entertained by the stupid-ass inanity of Blue Sky/Illumination than the uncomfortable production of Anomalisa/Fritz, or the utter boredom of Boy and the World/Illusionist/one other film that has yet to be ranked.

If an artistic movie provides entertainment on top of being artistic, then I'm more than happy to rank it highly (as I would consider at least two of my top ten). But this isn't some "objective" movie ranking where I'm obligated to rank things highly out of some cinema snob hipster sensibility.

are the rankings you submitted different from your 'objective' rankings?

also... you only consider seven of these forty movies to be artistic?

Hbthebattle posted...

why, though

do you see how bad the landscape is for movies is right now? it'd be nice to have some cinematic literacy develop among the general population. starting in this topic since it is the second topic in a row i've kept up with that makes me weep for the future of movies. not that i don't already do that considering the corporate create-by-committee fuck fest we are being inundated with, whether these topics exist or not, but i have a direct line to you people so this is where i'm starting. i mean, some of you are probably letterboxd film bros who are known among your irl friends as 'the movie guy' and you're telling them that the illusionist and fritz the cat are worse than some brain dead kids movie made in the last five years. you have to use your pull for good, man, not that.

btw i'll link you guys to our 2021 movie awards when they happen. we always do them over on the movies: at the theater board. you guys can get some good recs and a head start on refocusing your movie-watching lens.

Or you can make your own ranking topic.

Zithers posted...

i have a direct line to you people so this is where i'm starting. i

You sure are doing a great job trying to make us respect your opinion.

That is true, bestie.

Imagine being so cloistered in the dregs of a gaming website's movie forum that you have to emerge once a year like Puxatawney Phil, only instead of gnawing on your own shadow, you regurgitate the same talking points in your quixotic mission to civilize as you did the last time you encountered the exact same people doing the exact same thing. You slam the alarm blaring Sonny & Cher, down your Sprite and your Doritos, part of a balanced breakfast, and you go to work, flexing those calloused fingers so you can lay into a well-abused keyboard to extol your virtues, believing yourself Prometheus, bringing fire to the unwashed masses. Except they don't want fire. They want Paul Blart: Mall Cop. So you raise your fists and curse the gods for making these damn dirty apes around you so uncivilized, retreating back into your humid, cement-floored abode. There you wait, hoping someone makes the terrible mistake of stating their love of Judd Apatow movies or their agreement that Ben Affleck should have won an Oscar - twice. You lurch from your slumber again, desperate to teach those cretins on the message boards once more, and the cycle continues, like Puxatawney Phil looking at his shadow, almost but not quite self-aware.

You are a cinephile. You are a true lover of the craft. And nothing - not casual filmwatchers, not message posting limits, not even the use of capitalization - will stop you from your never-ending quest, your torment, your mission to civilize, like Jeff Daniels in The Newsroom. You shed the crumbs from your "Miyazaki is for Pussies" shirt and begin to tac-tac-tac away at your typewriter keyboard with the shotgun blast buttons, reinvigorated.

This is who you are. The arbiter of taste.

who invited all of these randos who think it's worthwhile time to go to a new board to complain about peoples' opinions of bad movies?

id wager someone keeps linking these topics in their discord

26. It's Such a Beautiful Day

Johnbobb: 1
Evillord: 1
Inviso: 28
Red: 38
Karo: 39
Ermine: 39

Total: 146

Johnbobb: I absolutely adore everything about this. Easily one of my favorite animated films of all time. Dark, incredibly written, unique and imaginative.

Evillord: The most moving film I've ever seen, animated or not.

Inviso: Thank goodness this film was as short as it was, because it really toed the line hard in terms of making me want to hate every aspect of it. The firstI want to say third to half was going to rank this right down at the bottom of my list, because it felt like the kind of wannabe edgey bullshit you might find in a mid-2000s flash video from Newgrounds. But then, while the movie doesnt completely change its tone, it seems to find its focus. Rather than a random collection of bullshit, the movie turns into a character study into a character with deteriorating health (both mental and physical), and it just became a little more interesting in some of the stylistic choices it made. I think it portrayed memory loss in a solid way, and even though the main character is kind of an asshole, I still felt sympathetic towards him as the film progressed. Now, the movie still wasnt anywhere near the best thing Ive ever seen, but it was semi-decent.

Red: Ugly stick figures have horrible life stacked on horrible life. If there is one thing pretty clear from these lists it is that movies that are indescribably bleak are not my thing. This is really not my thing, you never grow any real attachment to anything in this movie and it is just bad thing happening after bad thing and when it tries to tease you that something good may happen you already know from everything else that it is just trying to fake you out. When it hits that point, which it does very early, it is very hard to care about anything.

Karo: A series of three short films made by this one guy and linked together to form a sort of full length movie.
The story centers on a badly drawn mentally ill man named Bill, and his daily life as he struggles to function in the world. These are usually expressed in scenes so poorly animated they are often little more than GIFs, and filled with so much non sequitur nonsense that it would make even the writers of Family Guy cringe. Thuh piype is leeeking! Thuh piype is leeeking!
But the real problem lies in just how extremely unpleasant it is to watch. Not just because the story is sad or depressing (which it very is), but rather because there are an inordinate amount of flashing seizure lights, screen shaking effects, and random distorted noises that can even be loud enough to drown out the narration. Some scenes are even horrible enough to cause real physical illness.
Like maybe they were trying to make the viewers' brains explode so they could have more empathy for Bill's plight, but the narrative is difficult enough to watch as is without adding headaches in the mix.
Towards the end, the movie takes a thoughtful turn regarding life, the universe and everything, but it is a bit too late by now and I am just left wondering why the hell we needed a whole 50 minutes of mental agony just to get the story to this point.
It just ends up as another one of those experimental art films that is a little too much experiment and a lot too much LSD.

Ermine: There are some people I can imagine really enjoying a film like this. I am not one of them.

The humor rarely hits with me, and when it's firing off so many within such a short time span, it really gets old quick. And then you have scenes that go on FAR too long and make this film seem a lot longer than its hour run time.

"But it's so much more than that! It's sad and makes you think!"

Nah.

I get it. I just don't care. I don't care for the style of storytelling, nor the way they are trying to get their message across.

This was a huge miss and I'm surprised by all the raving reviews. I'm guessing because it's so vastly different from everything else we get in animation and the fact it has immense darker undertones. Different doesn't mean good. It feels like it's trying WAY too hard.

Meh.

Outlier Rankings:

Ermine: 185
Evillord: 170
Johnbobb: 131
Inviso: 117
Red: 108
Karo: 105

Wow. Even with some of the other recent rankings I still thought that one would do well.

Enjoy being top outlier while it lasts Ermine, I'm coming for you ;)

Zithers posted...

are the rankings you submitted different from your 'objective' rankings?

also... you only consider seven of these forty movies to be artistic?

Probably, yeah. I can acknowledge that something like Jimmy Neutron is objectively awful in its animation, writing and voice acting, but I still found it subjectively more enjoyable than a handful of "artistic" films on this list. Meanwhile, it's still an awful movie, and it did not take much for the six "artistic" films not in my bottom 5 to be more enjoyable than trash like Jimmy Neutron, Secret Life of Pets 3, Ice Age 3, Despicable Me 3, and at least one other film that hasn't shown up yet and inspired such a bizarre level of animus from me that I think it turned out my longest write-up on this list.

And I would consider 11 of these films to be artistic. Maybe 13, depending on how you classify Soul and Toy Story 4. But there are 11 films that I would say are, despite being animated, either maybe by "outsider" animation studios, or they do not come across as marketed specifically towards children.

It's weird, seeing that much of a split in opinion on this movie, while I'm right in the relative middle. I think Beautiful Day is really weird, because I can totally understand both sides of the argument. It feels like two movies put together in one for me. So the trio who ranked it bottom 2/3, That's how I felt, watching the first 1/3 to 1/2. It was just weird, gross-out humor that was on a similar level to Anomalisa or Fritz. But then the back half, when the movie found its voice and really started using its platform to tell a story about mental illness, it hooked me and I started really enjoying it. If I split the movie in half, I think I would've ranked the back half in my top 12, and the front half in my bottom 3. So...yeah...makes sense that it's polarizing.

It's Such a Beautiful Day is indeed a compilation of 3 different 20 minute short films that form a loose trilogy, which might help explain why you felt a big difference between different parts of it.

That almost certainly would have been my #1 if I'd had time to participate.

Holy shit I cannot believe this

I don't think I've ever seen a movie with multiple #1s rank this low

You've wounded me

But Evil please participate in future rankings because I don't want to know how low it would've fallen without your support

VengefulKaelee posted...

That almost certainly would have been my #1 if I'd had time to participate.

THANK YOU

Johnbobb posted...

But Evil please participate in future rankings because I don't want to know how low it would've fallen without your support

haha, sure, I plan to! It hurt a bit to see how low some of these movies landed, but I'm still glad this happened because it was this project that got me to watch Boy & the World, The Illusionist, Fritz, and some others I ended up really liking. ISaBD is a movie I watch every year or two already though, and when we started I was 99% sure it would be my #1. I also thought either it or Spider-Man would be #1 on the aggregate list, lol

Evillordexdeath posted...

ISaBD is a movie I watch every year or two already though, and when we started I was 99% sure it would be my #1

yup same here

admittedly though I knew it would rank near the top because I knew Karo didn't like it from his like 400 animated film ranking a few years back where he ranked it in the low 300s, and from just generally seeing the taste of some people here

I almost regret not watching fucking Jimmy Neutron because it might have been worth it to make sure that movie got the respect it deserves. It's probably either first or second on this list. I'm genuinely astounded it's that low, although I was expecting one or two people to not be huge on it. I didn't find it dark enough for me to ever lose interest, probably because it doesn't give you too much time to wallow in it. Anyway, good movie. If anyone reading this topic likes the 'artsy' films, as it's been so lovingly put, you absolutely gotta watch it.

Yeah I almost ranked that one 39.

25. Ralph Breaks the Internet

Red: 10
Karo: 15
Inviso: 18
Johnbobb: 26
Ermine: 36
Evillord: 38

Total: 143

Red: The start of Disney's descent in sequelitis. Arcades are dead and we're going to the internet. Actually somehow the arcade is still alive in 2018 which I didn't think is possible but props to someone from Disney trying to hold onto their childhood(I'm not sure what exactly it was based on, but the outside of Litwak's actually looks like a long demolished arcade/mini-golf place that used to be close to me. They had the best mini-golf. kind of a crappy arcade.) This movie is absolutely carried by the Disney scene. I don't think it could fail to get a smile out of me on a rewatch. But Ralph deciding to be a jerk is kind of a downer to the whole thing and the internet hit plot is kind of a miss on the whole. I both appreciate and am kind of annoyed at the reading the comments section segment.

Karo: When a wifi router is plugged in at the arcade Ralph and Vanellope go on an arbitrary online adventure in search of a new steering wheel for Sugar Rush. Inside the internet is this whole world populated by computer users and other online entities. In this place websites are represented as buildings making up a digital city, and for some strange reason 90% of them are not brothels.
It deserves props actually taking some risks with a sequel, but the things they do are not exactly the best. The original introduced us to this world where video game characters were alive, and instead seeing how this extended beyond their old-timey arcade we get... internet tourism? Indeed, other than a short foray into an online racing app, video gaming is in very short supply.
But really, this movie was at least ten years too late for what they were going for here. Here in the 21st century the internet is a mundane aspect of our lives, and we're supposed to have this sense of wonder about it for some reason. Hey wow we're going to eBay and not-YouTube! Maybe someone's 90 year old grandma will still be in awe at this.
But the questionable scenario aside, this is still a very good followup. Vanellope is an absolute star here, I'm not sure whose idea it was to put her in the straight man role for much of the film, but please give them a raise.
Her story is the heart of this film, and the main reason for watching. It is about growing up and the bittersweet way that may set you on a path diverging from that of your best friend. In many ways it is like the ending of the Fox and the Hound, only done way better.
Despite its flaws, it it still an exemplary addition to the Disney Canon, and gives us possibly the greatest scene ever in a Disney movie, not to mention a surprise guest appearance by Alan Menkin. It just goes to show that even if you are just making something for the money, it doesn't mean you gotta wreck it.

Inviso: I went into this rewatch, having watched Ralph 2 once before, and I was kind of dreading it. I love the original Wreck-It Ralph, both the movie and the character, and this was such an unnecessary sequel that never shouldve gotten a theatrical release in my opinion. It felt like a cynical cash grab, playing up internet references to get clicks (and pimp Disney products with the princess brand, among other things). But on the rewatch, its not as bad as I remembered, and perhaps it manages to impress me more, having watched almost half the list thus far, and being very VERY underwhelmed by almost every film Ive seen (spoilers, but not entirely since I said ALMOST).

On the plus side, I feel like they went with one of the better options for a sequel to Wreck-It Ralph. Ralph is happy and his life has improved dramatically from the first movie, but hes still largely comfortable with keeping things exactly as they are. Vanellope, meanwhile, is younger and fuller of life, so while things have improved for her, she also is bored of having the same daily grind. In true Disney princess fashion, she wants something more. Ralph wants to help his friend, but that help winds up breaking Sugar Rush and leaving Vanellope homeless. This is a good inciting incident, because it justifies the trip to the incident with Ralph trying to fix his mistake by buying a replacement part for the broken game. And in doing this, Vanellope goes to the internet and discovers a whole universe of new and exciting possibilities, including an open-world racing game where she can put her skills to the ultimate test.

The first third to first half of the movie is solid; where it goes off the rails is the back end. Ralph and Vanellope clashing over her desire to leave and his desire to keep her (his best friend) around is a fair plot. But Ralph really torpedoes his character in this regard. He becomes SO overly-controlling that it leads to a Homer Simpson-esque characterization which greatly damages him as a character. First off, we get a dumb sequence where Ralph becomes a Youtube star to make money, which is pointless and feels blatantly pandering to the internet generation. Then, he forces Vanellope into the Disney product placement, because he doesnt want her going back to Slaughter Race, but she winds up having a very meta Disney princess song and goes back there anyway, which makes Ralph jealous and insecure, and he tries to destroy Slaughter Race.

This is part of the problem. The original movie had a through line of the Cy-Bugs from Heros Duty threatening Sugar Rush, and this was set up over the course of the film, combining with King Candy as the big villain. This time, the villain is introduced late in the film, when Ralph goes hunting for a virus to use on Slaughter Race, and the virus gets out of control in duplicating Vanellopes glitching, and then Ralphs insecurity over losing his friend. The real bad guy was inside Ralph all along, as it were. And the problem with this is that you end up with a massive Ralph monster that is defeated by a brief pep talk, which makes the whole climactic battle feel pointless and rushed. I think this couldve been fixed by introducing the virus earlier in the film, but really, the back half feels like the writers werent entirely sure of what to do with the plot to get to from Ralph is worried about losing his friend to Ralph is okay with his friend leaving.

Ultimately, its not AWFUL (especially in comparison to a lot of this list, as Ive said), but its disappointing, nonetheless. I feel like there are better ways this plot couldve been handled, and its unfortunate that so much of this movie feels like referential pandering.

Johnbobb: Man we FINALLY get a good movie parodying video games and all its wacky characters and such, and for the much-anticipated sequel, we get THIS. Forget gaming, what this series needed was memes, lazy branded jokes, and a huge chunk of the movie dedicated to Disney congratulating itself. Character progression from the first film is tossed out the window, and the only thing true to the original movie is the online racing game, which pokes fun at the basically two types of racing games (goofy kart-racers and gritty realism) and at absurdly expensive skins. But ultimately, the movie itself is flat and left me with little hope for future entries.

Ermine: Holy fuck this movie. I didn't know a sequel could be so awful and shit on its own characters so badly. Everything you enjoyed about Ralph and Vanelope as characters is completely thrown out the window to progress the "plot" of the film. The "arguments" they have are completely nonsensical and it makes you want to root for neither of them. There are a couple moments where the movie is fine and serviceable but I've never seen a movie where it makes you hate the main characters more than this one... well scratch that... there are, but not ones where they were actually good characters before. (Frozen 2 does this as well, but not to the extent that Ralph 2 does)

Evillord: People talk about how this feels like an ad for all the websites and Disney properties it references, but I think the bigger problem is that it's just really boring. This probably stems from the first movie ending in a way that didn't really leave room for an entire second movie's worth of conflict, so they had to come up with an extremely forced plot for this one. It's also way too long.

Outlier Rankings:

Ermine: 196
Evillord: 183
Johnbobb: 132
Inviso: 124
Red: 123
Karo: 115

Ralph benefits a lot to me likely due to having been released early in the sequel bombardment. Before every movie was just a sequel where we split off all the main characters(It does this like half of the sequels here).

red13n posted...

To the point talking seriously with you doesn't serve much purpose.

You never once made an effort to discuss something seriously with me, actually. It's funny in fact, with how defensive you got about taste in movies you guys are the ones taking and making everything so personally. Sorry I disrespected the rapping troll movie.

It's ok, I hate the rapping troll movie too

PrinceKaro posted...

Johnbobb: I absolutely adore everything about this. Easily one of my favorite animated films of all time. Dark, incredibly written, unique and imaginative.

Evillord: The most moving film I've ever seen, animated or not.

Yeah, the best film in the lineup. Absolutely incredible. Would be hard to find another film about wrestling with one's mortality as good as this. A masterpiece. One of the best animated films ever made really.

So, what do we have left?

The Peanuts Movie (2015)
My Life as a Zucchini (2016)
The Red Turtle (2016)
Loving Vincent (2017)
Incredibles 2 (2018)
Isle of Dogs (2018)
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
Abominable (2019)
A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon (2019)
Frozen II (2019)
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (2019)
I Lost My Body (2019)
Klaus (2019)
Missing Link (2019)
The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (2019)
Toy Story 4 (2019)
Croods: A New Age (2020)
Onward (2020)
Over The Moon (2020)
Soul (2020)
Wolfwalkers (2020)
Luca (2021)
Raya and the Last Dragon (2021)
The Mitchells vs The Machines (2021)

Wolfwalkers, Toy Story 4, Spider-Man (which I would be stunned if it didn't win), and My Life as a Zucchini are the biggest standouts on the board IMO. How did Abominable and Croods 2 last this long?

rockus posted...

You never once made an effort to discuss something seriously with me, actually. It's funny in fact, with how defensive you got about taste in movies you guys are the ones taking and making everything so personally. Sorry I disrespected the rapping troll movie.

Your posts were intellectually ignorant. I felt and feel no need to have a serious discussion with you as it would be beneath the line I would find mentally stimulating.

Leafeon13N posted...

Your posts were intellectually ignorant.

Don't make me tap the sign:

rockus posted...

It's funny in fact, with how defensive you got about taste in movies you guys are the ones taking and making everything so personally. Sorry I disrespected the rapping troll movie.

Look how offensive my posts have been:

rockus posted...

The Illusionist, Anomalisa, and Boy and the World are all terrific films. Easily some of the best films on the overall list.

rockus posted...

Sounds like projecting.

Also, not a single movie on this list forgoes plot. For christ's sake, you're not watching The Grand Bizarre, you had to watch a couple of movies with little dialogue and a movie with a guy who has Fregoli syndrome.

rockus posted...

Yeah, I was thinking of participating myself but I hadn't seen like 10 or 15 of the movies and wasn't interested in contributing like 15 to 20 hours of time to watching like The Secret Life of Pets 2, Trolls World Tour, and like Despicable Me 3.

Would have been a cool series of movies if they replaced like half of them with like: Son of the White Mare, The Girl Without Hands, The Wolf House, Marona's Fantastic Tale, In This Corner of the World, Buuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles, Tower, Funan, Cryptozoo, American Pop, Johnny Corncob, The King and the Mockingbird. Some films that feel like they were actually made with the thought in mind that adults still watch movies.

Man, imagining you guys tackle Belladonna of Sadness would at least be more interesting, even after everyone hates it, than talking about the latest Illumination sequels or the talking animal movies or the latest kid befriends a magic creature feature.

It's in fact a good thing when a film challenges you.

Grow some thicker skin if this the kind of opposition that gets you so riled up. Jeez.

thesmark posted...

So, what do we have left?

The Peanuts Movie (2015)
My Life as a Zucchini (2016)
The Red Turtle (2016)
Loving Vincent (2017)
Incredibles 2 (2018)
Isle of Dogs (2018)
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
Abominable (2019)
A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon (2019)
Frozen II (2019)
How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (2019)
I Lost My Body (2019)
Klaus (2019)
Missing Link (2019)
The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (2019)
Toy Story 4 (2019)
Croods: A New Age (2020)
Onward (2020)
Over The Moon (2020)
Soul (2020)
Wolfwalkers (2020)
Luca (2021)
Raya and the Last Dragon (2021)
The Mitchells vs The Machines (2021)

Wolfwalkers, Toy Story 4, Spider-Man (which I would be stunned if it didn't win), and My Life as a Zucchini are the biggest standouts on the board IMO. How did Abominable and Croods 2 last this long?

I Lost My Body and The Red Turtle are both quite good. Isle of Dogs and Incredibles 2 as well I think. The Shaun the Sheep sequel is pretty solid too even if it doesn't quite live up to the first one.

i kickstarted don hertzfeldt's bluray of its such a beautiful day. good addition to the collection.

Inviso posted...

Probably, yeah. I can acknowledge that something like Jimmy Neutron is objectively awful in its animation, writing and voice acting, but I still found it subjectively more enjoyable than a handful of "artistic" films on this list. Meanwhile, it's still an awful movie, and it did not take much for the six "artistic" films not in my bottom 5 to be more enjoyable than trash like Jimmy Neutron, Secret Life of Pets 3, Ice Age 3, Despicable Me 3, and at least one other film that hasn't shown up yet and inspired such a bizarre level of animus from me that I think it turned out my longest write-up on this list.

And I would consider 11 of these films to be artistic. Maybe 13, depending on how you classify Soul and Toy Story 4. But there are 11 films that I would say are, despite being animated, either maybe by "outsider" animation studios, or they do not come across as marketed specifically towards children.

lots of weird things in this post

rockus posted...

Grow some thicker skin if this the kind of opposition that gets you so riled up. Jeez.

Didn't say anything about being riled up. I said I found your content to be intellectually bankrupt.

red13n posted...

Didn't say anything about being riled up. I said I found your content to be intellectually bankrupt.

Yeah, I know. You taking things really personally and then resorting to lame internet insults is what I consider riled up.

You started posting comments ruder and more juvenile than anything I've said in the topic. It's really weird.

rockus posted...

Yeah, I know. You taking things really personally and then resorting to lame internet insults is what I consider riled up.

You started posting comments ruder and more juvenile than anything I've said in the topic. It's really weird.

Perhaps you should read? I have not resorted to insults in the slightest.

Rude, yes. Childish, absolutely. But that was more about effort I was/am willing to give you than anything meant to be an insult.

red13n posted...

But that was more about effort I was/am willing to give you than anything meant to be an insult.

Curious that you keep laboring on about how beneath it is for you to have a serious discussion (with me) or how little effort you want to put into your comments when no one even said anything to you in the first place. Still don't get what you're going on about. Chill out, go outside.

You're all "I shall not even dignify that with a response but I'll post 20 more times about how I'm really really intellectually smarter than you" though I've yet to see anything to support that. Just a bunch of embarrassing insecure comments directed at someone that didn't even know you existed until you got all mad about something.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/4/AAcguBAAC17g.jpg

rockus posted...

Curious that you keep laboring on about how beneath it is for you to have a serious discussion (with me) or how little effort you want to put into your comments when no one even said anything to you in the first place. Still don't get what you're going on about. Chill out, go outside.

You're all "I shall not even dignify that with a response but I'll post 20 more times about how I'm really really intellectually smarter than you" though I've yet to see anything to support that. Just a bunch of embarrassing insecure comments directed at someone that didn't even know you existed until you got all mad about something.

I find your additions to this topic to not be mentally stimulating and having a conversation with you on that level to be beneath me.

If you think this is me attempting to insult you, perhaps you should refrain from making comments about the thickness of peoples skin as such comments most certainly fall into the realm of hypocrisy.

And yes, I have essentially now called you a hypocrite. I don't find this to be an insult but merely a statement of fact based on a specific wording in this topic. But it is far closer to an insult than anything else I have said in this topic.

red13n posted...

And yes, I have essentially now called you a hypocrite. I don't find this to be an insult but merely a statement of fact based on a specific wording in this topic. But it is far closer to an insult than anything else I have said in this topic.

I don't know what kind of weirdo superiority insecurity thing you're on but if you've convinced yourself that telling people they're too "intellectually ignorant" to have a conversation with isn't intended to be insulting you might be lying to yourself or have some really strange disconnect from reality. Give it a rest, man. You're not impressing anyone.

TotallyNotMI posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/4/AAcguBAAC17g.jpg

What's funny is the thing that really got some users mad on here is saying that some of these films are actually terrific.

And what's funnier still is that it seems like the majority of the group doesn't like a lot of the other movies anyway.

rockus posted...

I don't know what kind of weirdo superiority insecurity thing you're on but if you've convinced yourself that telling people they're too "intellectually ignorant" to have a conversation with isn't intended to be insulting you might be lying to yourself or have some really strange disconnect from reality. Give it a rest, man. You're not impressing anyone.

I didn't say you were intellectually ignorant. I said your posts were. Your posts show no understanding of the purpose of these topics nor how or why we rank these movies the way we do. You also show no sign of being open to increasing said understanding and from your tone leave me and many others unwilling to wish to converse with you seriously on the subject.

In no way is me saying this personally insulting.

Please learn what an insult actually is.

rockus posted...

What's funny is

nobody finds any of this funny

this is a group of people that does this stuff, and you've appeared out of nowhere to insert yourself into the group for the sole purpose of trying to earn e-cred by trying to seem smarter than a group of strangers that you'll never meet

we're all adults who have mostly been on this board experiencing stuff like this for 15+ years. it's boring. you're boring. stop wasting time here and go watch a star war

I don't quite understand the point of what the movie board people are doing here. It would be like if every time you and your friends went out to dinner at Taco Bell, someone that you don't really know kept coming over to your group of friends and started explaining to you how Taco Bell isn't real Mexican food, and how fast food is bad for you. Everyone in the group of friends knows this, but they don't really care, because they are doing an activity with their friends. It's like this project--none of the rankers are claiming to be film buffs that know much of anything about movies, but they are hanging out with their friends and ranking things as a fun amusing activity. There is no need for an outsider coming in only to critique their views. However, I don't think anyone would have a problem if you posted on the board more often just to hang out, and joined this group of friends and ranked along with them in the future. Then you'd be one of us. But just showing up and insulting the people that you are trying to get to listen to you? That doesn't really work. I learned that lesson the hard way in 2010 on my blog, and it cost me dozens of followers.

But where do the critiques end? If you want to critique the film taste of people that you know you have more movie knowledge of, do you want someone who types faster than you letting you know that your replies are kind of slow? Do you want someone who is always confident in their decisions, to critique you for second guessing yourself and editing posts? Do you want someone who knows more about cars to critique you for what you drive? Do you want someone who is good at exercising to critique you because your workout regime is worse than theirs? etc.

Leafeon13N posted...

Please learn what an insult actually is.

Cool. All you've done is try to pick a fight for some reason. I'm going to ignore your posts like this for now on. We can talk about the movies still if you want.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

this is a group of people that does this stuff, and you've appeared out of nowhere to insert yourself into the group for the sole purpose of trying to earn e-cred by trying to seem smarter than a group of strangers that you'll never meet

I posted in a public message board in a discussion about some movies, some of which I really like (they're some great movies!).

As I said earlier, I was going to participate in the ranking but didn't watch a dozen of them (so that wouldn't really be fair), but I would like to discuss them. Am I wrong for thinking I should be able to talk about them and maybe question some of the responses to them?

But I've been met with more hostility than I've given, and *I'm* not the one who said I was smarter than other people, that was this red guy who has done nothing but try to pick a fight for some reason, and got mad when he was met with responses in kind.

If I submitted a ranking would I still be met with the same kind of hostility? Or am I just not allowed to participate?

JoshImABlogger2 posted...

But just showing up and insulting the people that you are trying to get to listen to you? That doesn't really work. I learned that lesson the hard way in 2010 on my blog, and it cost me dozens of followers.

I haven't really insulted anyone though. And I would get the going out to eat analogy more if it this wasn't all taking place on a public discussion board where the main point is for people to join in and talk about it. A better analogy would be more like if you guys had a close-knit film club at school or other public space and some new people showed up to join in on the discussion.

JoshImABlogger2 posted...

But where do the critiques end? If you want to critique the film taste of people that you know you have more movie knowledge of, do you want someone who types faster than you letting you know that your replies are kind of slow? Do you want someone who is always confident in their decisions, to critique you for second guessing yourself and editing posts? Do you want someone who knows more about cars to critique you for what you drive? Do you want someone who is good at exercising to critique you because your workout regime is worse than theirs? etc.

I don't know what any of this has to do with what I posted. I didn't say anyone here is worse for not having more movie knowledge than me. I did suggest a list of some interesting films that could have been better than like Hotel Transylvania 3 or something. I just think it's neat to be interested in other films. Movies are interesting.

rockus posted...

Or am I just not allowed to participate?

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rockus posted...

If I submitted a ranking would I still be met with the same kind of hostility? Or am I just not allowed to participate?

I don't think that would be the case. Most online communities are open to new people. I think if you guys showed up and posted in other topics, you'd get more of a feel for what we are like and why we rank things the way we do. There are interesting things, like Save My Boat where you vote for your favorite boat and then you get someone else to vote for that boat in one hour while you vote for their boat. And you can also let us know what Pokemon you like and we'll tell you why that Pokemon is cool.

Then after you do that, you can work your way into the movie rankings like this. It would come off much more smoothly, and people would be accepting of you. That's not to say people wouldn't disagree with your opinions, but we all disagree with each other's opinions anyway. But at least people wouldn't be attacking you for being "an outsider".

I don't have much interest in boats though, but I do appreciate the genuine response.

I might talk more about some of the films left on the list, I think there are some really genuinely good ones left.

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