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Communism can't withstand people starving for 10 days. Great system

Steelix500 posted...

Communism can't withstand people starving for 10 days. Great system

It's almost like we need to find a balance between the two.

Solar_Crimson posted...

It's almost like we need to find a balance between the two.

You don't need a balance between malignant hypercancer (capitalism) and chemotherapy. You need to cure the cancer.

Steelix500 posted...

Communism can't withstand people starving for 10 days. Great system

Yes they can. They jut pick someone who is alive.

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

You don't need a balance between malignant hypercancer (capitalism) and chemotherapy. You need to cure the cancer.

Sounds like socialism.

Steelix500 posted...

Communism can't withstand people starving for 10 days. Great system

Its weird how the right thinks doing the bare minimum to help the people instead of trampling them is communism.

Don't worry the CDC changed it to 5 days. Don't live in America? Sucks to suck

Starvation rates have been climbing for the past 5 years in spite of capitalism, weird

https://www.fao.org/state-of-food-security-nutrition/en/

I thought capitalism solved poverty, everyone has a refrigerator, right?

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

You don't need a balance between malignant hypercancer (capitalism) and chemotherapy. You need to cure the cancer.

As a cancer survivor, I'll take the chemo if a cure isn't available thank you very much. Work on the cure for sure, but take the chemo till it's available.

Solar_Crimson posted...

It's almost like we need to find a balance between the two.

Shh. Shh. Shh.

Don't speak that way.

ScazarMeltex posted...

As a cancer survivor, I'll take the chemo if a cure isn't available thank you very much. Work on the cure for sure, but take the chemo till it's available.

That's my point though, yes.

Really though. What's interesting to me is that people in general are very against the government owning the means of production but don't seem to really mind when the means of production own the government, which is the case in the US today where lobbyists are literally writing the laws. I don't see a demonstrable difference in government owning business vs. business owning government. It just seems like the all-or-nothing laissez faire types will argue against the evils of socialism until they're blue in the face while not realizing that unfettered capitalism produces the exact same results.

Neither socialism or capitalism are great policies to go whole hog on, you need a nice little balance of capitalism with safety nets and regulation or your capitalist utopia is going to become an oligarchy just like all of the communist countries you complain about.

Steelix500 posted...

Communism can't withstand people starving for 10 days. Great system

what does this have to do with capitalism

Rexdragon125 posted...

Starvation rates have been climbing for the past 5 years in spite of capitalism, weird

https://www.fao.org/state-of-food-security-nutrition/en/

I thought capitalism solved poverty, everyone has a refrigerator, right?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/1/AABJX0AACwTn.jpg

Rexdragon125 posted...

Starvation rates have been climbing for the past 5 years in spite of capitalism, weird

https://www.fao.org/state-of-food-security-nutrition/en/

I thought capitalism solved poverty, everyone has a refrigerator, right?

Capitalism only helps out those that live in the imperial core, and now that it's progressed into the later stages it's beginning to consume even the those that live in said imperial core.

yes it can. it just needs to not be run by the most short sighted of people. there is absolutely no reason a capitalist system can't also plan ahead for emergencies. we just chose not to, because we're very stupid.

Medussa posted...

yes it can. it just needs to not be run by the most short sighted of people. there is absolutely no reason a capitalist system can't also plan ahead for emergencies. we just chose not to, because we're very stupid.

The purpose of capitalism is to make money. That's it, that's all. Planning ahead for emergencies costs money, it doesn't make it.

ScazarMeltex posted...

The purpose of capitalism is to make money. That's it, that's all. Planning ahead for emergencies costs money, it doesn't make it.

disagree. dying costs everything. making sure that never happens guarantees opportunities to make money forever.

Edit: It happens anyway, we have FMLA, Maternity/Paternity Leave, Sabbatical, etc

So what's the issue here?

ScazarMeltex posted...

The purpose of capitalism is to make money. That's it, that's all. Planning ahead for emergencies costs money, it doesn't make it.

Wait until they see how much ecological collapse costs

Looming mass extinction could be biggest 'since the dinosaurs,' says WWF
More plants and animals than ever before are on a global list of threatened species, with the World Wildlife Fund Germany warning that more than 1 million species could go extinct within the next 10 years

https://www.dw.com/en/looming-mass-extinction-could-be-biggest-since-the-dinosaurs-says-wwf/a-60289286

Cornmuffins posted...

Don't worry the CDC changed it to 5 days. Don't live in America? Sucks to suck

Pretty neat how the "science" can change when it's convenient for it to, huh?

Hornswoggled posted...

Pretty neat how the "science" can change when it's convenient for it to, huh?

But if I question it...

It's funny how people say capitalism doesn't work and then proceed to ignore the hundred years of raising the quality of life for the poorest people. There's a reason people are "not getting enough to eat" as opposed to "starving". The goalposts have shifted thanks to the surplus generated by capitalism.

I don't expect lazy NEETs on a dying board to grasp it though.

sabbatical?

Fingerpuppet posted...

It's funny how people say capitalism doesn't work and then proceed to ignore the hundred years of raising the quality of life for the poorest people. There's a reason people are "not getting enough to eat" as opposed to "starving". The goalposts have shifted thanks to the surplus generated by capitalism.

I don't expect lazy NEETs on a dying board to grasp it though.

Don't bother. There's already at least one person in this topic that has proactively blamed capitalist countries for non-capitalist countries having far worse hunger problems. Every bad thing will always be capitalism's fault even if it occurs in a country that doesn't practice it.

In 1950, 72% of the world lived in extreme poverty. In 1981 44.3% of the world was in extreme poverty. In 2015 9.6% of the world lived in extreme poverty. That last one is particularly noteworthy since a huge portion of that was from China embracing some capitalism in its communistic system.

Communism is a failure and capitalism has been a run away success the last 100 years. Has there ever been a communist regime that didnt starve its people?

Capitalism does get inefficient when cronyism gets embedded into the system and artificial barriers of entry to gate keep get legislated. There needs to be significant efforts to keep the playing field fair, and right now its not, but still way better than any version of communism that has ever existed.

Steelix500 posted...

Communism can't withstand people starving for 10 days. Great system

B-b-but communism! Of course, we'll ignore that 99% of all the ills in the world have occurred under capitalism.

Fingerpuppet posted...

It's funny how people say capitalism doesn't work and then proceed to ignore the hundred years of raising the quality of life for the poorest people.

Most people who say capitalism doesn't work are going off of the hundreds of years of theft, genocide and imperialism that capitalism is built on. As well as the current disasters which capitalism shows absolutely no sign in addressing, because why would it ever do that, there's no money in it. And just capitalism in general being a butthole economic system which rewards the most useless people in society.

EmbraceOfDeath posted...

B-b-but communism! Of course, we'll ignore that 99% of all the ills in the world have occurred under capitalism.

If you consider being lifted out of poverty being an ill...

Fingerpuppet posted...

It's funny how people say capitalism doesn't work and then proceed to ignore the hundred years of raising the quality of life for the poorest people. There's a reason people are "not getting enough to eat" as opposed to "starving". The goalposts have shifted thanks to the surplus generated by capitalism.

I don't expect lazy NEETs on a dying board to grasp it though.

the surplus is generated by our exploitation of stock (fossil) energy, simple as that. and the marriage of that exploitation with a system predicated on perpetual growth is about to be our undoing in the near term.

stay tuned.

Rexdragon125 posted...

Starvation rates have been climbing for the past 5 years in spite of capitalism, weird

You might have a point if like 85% of the hungry people weren't from Asia and Africa. Plus, covid has had a significant impact on the numbers. The trend was definitely dropping or stable until that hit, and even with covid the projections are lower than they were just 10 years ago.

GALA462 posted...

If you consider being lifted out of poverty being an ill...

Keep an eye on Chile. It's about to start going the other way.

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You have zero grasp on history if you believe capitalism is only marginally better than I guess mercantilism as what came before capitalism? Again, 200 years ago, only about 10% of people werent in abject poverty globally. Now only about 10% are in abject poverty. How is that not the most positive revolutionary change in the history of global economics?

"trust the science" unless it doesn't currently fit our agenda

Does anyone have any proof or evidence that 5 days of quarantine isnt enough or is this just a conspiracy theory?

Stop politicizing Covid.

Fingerpuppet posted...

It's funny how people say capitalism doesn't work and then proceed to ignore the hundred years of raising the quality of life for the poorest people. There's a reason people are "not getting enough to eat" as opposed to "starving". The goalposts have shifted thanks to the surplus generated by capitalism.

I don't expect lazy NEETs on a dying board to grasp it though.

Our healthcare system alone is proof that capitalism is shit.

Damn_Underscore posted...

Does anyone have any proof or evidence that 5 days of quarantine isnt enough or is this just a conspiracy theory?

Stop politicizing Covid.

People were being good boys and girls and "trusting the science", but now we see the science can be changed because a CEO wants it to.

It makes you question if it was all a farce from the beginning.

Umbreon posted...

Our healthcare system alone is proof that capitalism is shit.

You mean the same health care system that has had so much innovation it would practically be magic to people 100 years ago is shit?

Umbreon posted...

Our healthcare system alone is proof that capitalism is shit.

The US is one of the few countries in the world and by far the most advanced to not have universal healthcare, so this is wrong.

What is the correlation with gamefaqs forum users and constantly complaining about capitalism

Steelix500 posted...

Communism can't withstand people starving for 10 days. Great system

Tell me you don't know what Communism is by telling me you don't know what Communism is.

Lol.

Yes, most of the poorer countries are feeling the effects of climate change. Tell us how well capitalism worked out for us in a few decades.

Looming mass extinction could be biggest 'since the dinosaurs,' says WWF
More plants and animals than ever before are on a global list of threatened species, with the World Wildlife Fund Germany warning that more than 1 million species could go extinct within the next 10 years
https://www.dw.com/en/looming-mass-extinction-could-be-biggest-since-the-dinosaurs-says-wwf/a-60289286

Fishery collapse confirms Silent Spring pesticide prophecy'
The long-term study showed an immediate plunge in insect and plankton numbers in a large lake after the introduction of neonicotinoid pesticides to rice paddies. This was rapidly followed by the collapse of smelt and eel populations, which had been stable for decades but rely on the tiny creatures for food.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/31/fishery-collapse-confirms-silent-spring-pesticide-prophecy

We are running out of topsoil, by 2055 we will have none of it
https://therising.co/2019/04/05/research-shows-we-are-running-out-of-topsoil/
https://globalsoilweek.org/

Population is growing so fast, and we are wasting so much food and losing so much water in irrigation that society will collapse by 2040 due to catastrophic food shortages if nothing changes.
https://richardvanhooijdonk.com/blog/en/humanity-must-produce-more-food-in-the-next-four- decades-than-we-have-in-the-last-8000-years-the-dutch-may-have-the-solutions/
https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/news/society-will-collapse-by-2040-due-to- catastrophic-food-shortages-says-study-10336406.html

India has 5 years to solve the water crisis, South Africa has the worst drought in 1000 years, Zambia has 2M of brink of starvation thanks to regional drought. According to the UN report in 10 years, 4 billion people will be short of fresh water, 2 billion will be severely short of fresh water.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/27/india/india-water-crisis-intl-hnk/index.html
https://www.news24.com/Africa/News/2-million-on-brink-of-starvation-in-regional-drought-in-zambia-20191030
https://www.un.org/waterforlifedecade/scarcity.shtml

Extreme heat waves that kill even healthy people within hours will strike parts of the Indian subcontinent unless global carbon emissions are cut sharply and soon, according to new research. Even outside of these hotspots, three-quarters of the 1.7bn population particularly those farming in the Ganges and Indus valleys will be exposed to a level of humid heat classed as posing extreme danger towards the end of the century. The new analysis assesses the impact of climate change on the deadly combination of heat and humidity, measured as the wet bulb temperature (WBT). Once this reaches 35C, the human body cannot cool itself by sweating and even fit people sitting in the shade will die within six hours. There are already parts of the world above 32-33C.
https://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2017/12/22/humidity-may-prove-breaking-point-for-some-areas-as-temperatures-rise-says-study/

There will be hundreds of millions of climate refugees. By 2050 there will be 1.5B migrants. Yes, its in 30 years. And it will increase the potential for conflicts and violence. A study by the Pentagon confirms 100% there will be wars caused by migrants. For example, India could block the river Indus and kill hundreds of millions of Pakistani. Both countries have WMD.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613342/get-ready-for-tens-of-millions-of-climate-refugees/
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59n9qa/climate-change-will-create-15-billion-migrants-by-2050-and-we-have-no-idea-where-theyll-go
https://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2019/02/13/climateconflict
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-23/pentagon-fears-confirmed-climate-change-leads-to-war-refugees
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/water-crisis-brews-between-india-and-pakistan-as-rivers-run-dry/articleshow/67703540.cms

Yeah, the US healthcare system flexed hard during the pandemic. Much more efficent and capable than most countries

You're a debt slave though, but you're alive

Rexdragon125 posted...

Tell us how well capitalism worked out for us in a few decades.

You can bet I will, if we're still coming to gamefaqs.gamespot.com

darkprince45 posted...

What is the correlation with gamefaqs forum users and constantly complaining about capitalism

I'm convinced CE is used as a a foreign government troll farm training ground

Things will never change because nobody here is going to take a pay cut to help bring up someone that needs a raise. Humans a selfish piles of shit

Bad_Mojo posted...

Things will never change because nobody here is going to take a pay cut to help bring up someone that needs a raise.

Would you?