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gna647
12/14/21 12:39:50 PM
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I have student debt and dems completely lost my vote.

not voting for republicans either, Id just rather not give them something without them giving something in return. Fuck em all

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Zikten
12/14/21 12:41:00 PM
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So you will hand over democracy forever, just cause you are upset about your student loans?
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CyricZ
12/14/21 12:41:07 PM
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Ow the edge.

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Doe
12/14/21 12:41:24 PM
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Zikten posted...
So you will hand over democracy forever, just cause you are upset about your student loans?
lol american 'democracy'

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metralo
12/14/21 12:41:39 PM
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weird that youre accepting fascism with open arms

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gna647
12/14/21 12:41:56 PM
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Zikten posted...
So you will hand over democracy forever, just cause you are upset about your student loans?

yup. Idc anymore. Ill just move to Europe

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Veggeta_MAX
12/14/21 12:42:50 PM
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gna647 posted...
Ill just move to Europe
lmao no you won't

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PatrickMahomes
12/14/21 12:43:03 PM
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Doe posted...
lol american 'democracy'


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Zikten
12/14/21 12:43:25 PM
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gna647 posted...


yup. Idc anymore. Ill just move to Europe

Gee thanks. Ruin the country and run off, leaving us left behind to suffer
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emblem boy
12/14/21 12:43:57 PM
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I guess if student debt relief was your single issue, that's fine.

I wish more could have passed, and that the BBB was better but I mean... it's not as if nothing has passed.

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Zikten
12/14/21 12:44:24 PM
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Btw fascism is rising in Europe too. How about helping us fight it instead of running away?
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CyricZ
12/14/21 12:45:22 PM
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Zikten posted...
Btw fascism is rising in Europe too. How about helping us fight it instead of running away?
A fair point to make.

Ultimately, fascism finds you, and you can only run for so long.

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EmbraceOfDeath
12/14/21 12:46:31 PM
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metralo posted...
weird that youre accepting fascism with open arms
>Shitty two party system where things don't work and only get worse regardless of the party in charge leads to voter apathy.

"ThIs Is YoUr FaUlT fOr SuPpOrTiNg FaScIsM."

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Doe
12/14/21 12:47:44 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
>Shitty two party system where things don't work and only get worse regardless of the party in charge leads to voter apathy.

"ThIs Is YoUr FaUlT fOr SuPpOrTiNg FaScIsM."
they'll talk on and on about fighting the rise of fascism and then won't do anything more than vote for the people who aren't actually fighting the rise of fascism. it's barely even worth engaging with them

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_Angel_
12/14/21 12:55:48 PM
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gna647 posted...
I have student debt and dems completely lost my vote.

not voting for republicans either, Id just rather not give them something without them giving something in return. Fuck em all

Yeah I get it. Shit feels like a slap in the face

Stuck between a rock and a hard place with this shit because you know that Republicans bank on you not voting for Dems. Actually had that happen where a guy tried to convince me to vote third party (didn't fall for it) under the guise of both sides bad, talking that good libertarian shit or whatever...he was all in on Trump when it came time to vote though

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ChocoboMog123
12/14/21 12:57:55 PM
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Meh. They had time to prove themselves and failed. Fuck em.

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Omnislasher
12/14/21 12:58:05 PM
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ITT liberal smooth-brains imply that they're fighting fascism by voting democrat

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Damn_Underscore
12/14/21 1:00:03 PM
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Do you have a legit plan to move to Europe or are you just saying that?

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Smackems
12/14/21 1:01:39 PM
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I'm gonna try to vote my local pieces of shit out but that's as far as I give a fuck. Dems suck, repubs suck, I don't have anyone to represent me. But at least I can try to get rid of some of the trash that actually effects me

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ElatedVenusaur
12/14/21 1:02:26 PM
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Democrats approach politics like losing is their job.

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CommonStar
12/14/21 1:02:39 PM
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At this point, the fault rests solely on the party failing to garner more support. You cannot fault people for feeling disenfranchised and alienated when the party fails to improve their material conditions.
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Kain Highwind
12/14/21 1:04:01 PM
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CommonStar posted...
At this point, the fault rests solely on the party failing to garner more support. You cannot fault people for feeling disenfranchised and alienated when the party fails to improve their material conditions.
this

fuck the dems

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Kajagogo
12/14/21 1:06:38 PM
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gna647 posted...
yup. Idc anymore. Ill just move to Europe

You can't even pay off your student loans. How are you going to afford to even go to Europe?

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ElatedVenusaur
12/14/21 1:07:04 PM
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CommonStar posted...
At this point, the fault rests solely on the party failing to garner more support. You cannot fault people for feeling disenfranchised and alienated when the party fails to improve their material conditions.
That's not even the case here: President Biden is choosing to actively worsen people's material conditions. So, like, it's even worse lol.

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Slaya4
12/14/21 1:08:39 PM
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Libertarians need all the help they can get. They'd welcome you with open arms

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RchHomieQuanChi
12/14/21 1:08:59 PM
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CommonStar posted...
At this point, the fault rests solely on the party failing to garner more support. You cannot fault people for feeling disenfranchised and alienated when the party fails to improve their material conditions.

I keep saying this.

If this was anything but American democracy (aka the illusion of choice), we would hold the Democratic party accountable for failing to gain votes.

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Antifar
12/14/21 1:10:11 PM
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Slaya4 posted...
Libertarians need all the help they can get. They'd welcome you with open arms
Are they gonna cancel TC's student debt?

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Kuuko
12/14/21 1:11:25 PM
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Slaya4 posted...
Libertarians need all the help they can get. They'd welcome you with open arms
Libertarians are absolutely not interested in student loan forgiveness so that's a pretty silly suggestion. The libertarian stance would be to not have federally subsidized student loans at all.

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BlackOmnimon
12/14/21 1:11:31 PM
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The American system is not democratic, and is unreformable. The only people at fault are the politicians, both on the D and R sides. Good for you, TC.

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Father_
12/14/21 1:11:37 PM
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I mean, it was a fantasy to believe they would follow through with relieving student dept.

I don't see how anyone could sensibly believe they were actually going to do it.

It was an obvious "not gonna happen" from the get go.

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RchHomieQuanChi
12/14/21 1:12:32 PM
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Agreed

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Zikten
12/14/21 1:16:17 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
The American system is not democratic, and is unreformable. The only people at fault are the politicians, both on the D and R sides. Good for you, TC.

Our system is fucked up, but if democrats get destroyed, you can kiss goodbye any chance of reforming the system. Once Republicans are in power, America turns into a theocratic dictatorship
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Kain Highwind
12/14/21 1:17:58 PM
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Zikten posted...
Our system is fucked up, but if democrats get destroyed, you can kiss goodbye any chance of reforming the system. Once Republicans are in power, America turns into a theocratic dictatorship
there's no reforming it either way

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Lyrica
12/14/21 1:19:30 PM
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One of the doctors I work with said he made a mistake voting for Biden, and that Biden is setting the stage for Trump to come back. Many doctors are drowning in debt and worked grueling hours on the front lines of COVID.
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emblem boy
12/14/21 1:20:32 PM
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Lyrica posted...
One of the doctors I work with said he made a mistake voting for Biden, and that Biden is setting the stage for Trump to come back. Many doctors are drowning in debt and worked grueling hours on the front lines of COVID.

Who does he wish he voted for in 2020 then?

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Talas
12/14/21 1:20:55 PM
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More edge than an early 2000s WWF broadcast

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Smackems
12/14/21 1:22:09 PM
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Zikten posted...
Our system is fucked up, but if democrats get destroyed, you can kiss goodbye any chance of reforming the system. Once Republicans are in power, America turns into a theocratic dictatorship
Democrats, and all of the establishment, don't want to let reforms in

The only way to fix this is to have an uprooting of the establishment by getting actual good candidates with snowballs chance in hell of winning all throughout the system, and the system will work like a dog to make sure that doesn't happen. America is too lazy to do that, so we will just get stuck with the same old shit while the ship sinks

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BlackOmnimon
12/14/21 1:22:24 PM
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Zikten posted...
Our system is fucked up, but if democrats get destroyed, you can kiss goodbye any chance of reforming the system. Once Republicans are in power, America turns into a theocratic dictatorship

And Democrats themselves are at fault. They never do anything when in power, and when someone wants to, like Bernie, they do everything in their power to stop them. Nobody to blame but themselves.

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Will_VIIII
12/14/21 1:23:28 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
ITT liberal smooth-brains imply that they're fighting fascism by voting democrat

embarrassing
Explain how democrats are fascist

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RchHomieQuanChi
12/14/21 1:24:24 PM
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BlackOmnimon posted...
And Democrats themselves are at fault. They never do anything when in power, and when someone wants to, like Bernie, they do everything in their power to stop them. Nobody to blame but themselves.

This. Democrats fight progressives harder than they fight actual Republicans.

It's clear what side they're on.

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FortuneCookie
12/14/21 1:25:13 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Democrats approach politics like losing is their job.

It kinda is.

Republican politicians are openly capitalist.
Democrat politicians are capitalist as well but are outwardly anti-capitalist.

That means the Democrat party has to lose from time to time to maintain the status quo. If they won consecutively, they'd have to make good on their promises.
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emblem boy
12/14/21 1:27:15 PM
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Gonna preface this with, I absolutely agree that dems are not doing enough when in power... but I think some of you are a bit too optimistic in regards to what will actually draw in votes when it comes to elections and how actually popular some ideas are in the public.

Maybe I'm just too pessimistic

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McMarbles
12/14/21 1:29:04 PM
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Doe posted...
lol american 'democracy'

CyricZ posted...
Ow the edge.


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RchHomieQuanChi
12/14/21 1:35:47 PM
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emblem boy posted...
Gonna preface this with, I absolutely agree that dems are not doing enough when in power... but I think some of you are a bit too optimistic in regards to what will actually draw in votes when it comes to elections and how actually popular some ideas are in the public.

Maybe I'm just too pessimistic

While this is true, there are also plenty of things that are clearly popular with voters on both sides (federal legalization of marijuana being a primary example) that Democrats haven't been willing to tackle with anywhere near the effort they should.

Plus, it's just going to have to be a slow, gradual process. We can't expect to convert to Social Democracy overnight, but even putting in an effort to dispel a lot of the misinformation going on around things like universal healthcare or workers' rights would bring these ideas into the mainstream.

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NinjaWarrior455
12/14/21 1:38:42 PM
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Father_ posted...
I mean, it was a fantasy to believe they would follow through with relieving student dept.

I don't see how anyone could sensibly believe they were actually going to do it.

It was an obvious "not gonna happen" from the get go.
Relieving the debt is one thing but considering a lot of people are still in dire financial situations because of the pandemic they can at least still suspend loan repayments.

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Materus
12/14/21 1:40:32 PM
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America isnt a democracy its a corporate oligopoly. If you want real change to happen an armed uprising and shit load of death is the only way it happens. Rush Bezos mansion and hang him from a tree. Youll see change real fast.

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emblem boy
12/14/21 1:47:35 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
While this is true, there are also plenty of things that are clearly popular with voters on both sides (federal legalization of marijuana being a primary example) that Democrats haven't been willing to tackle with anywhere near the effort they should.

Plus, it's just going to have to be a slow, gradual process. We can't expect to convert to Social Democracy overnight, but even putting in an effort to dispel a lot of the misinformation going on around things like universal healthcare or workers' rights would bring these ideas into the mainstream.


I think the first thing they need to do is remove the filibuster. But if they do do, they need to make sure they fucking win congress. Needing 67 voted to pass anything of worth is just to high a hurdle.

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Doom_Art
12/14/21 1:48:41 PM
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Maybe when the Democrats lose and the GOP succeeds in their coup this time maybe people will realize both sides aren't the same lol

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hockeybub89
12/14/21 1:59:02 PM
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Democrats: We're useless

Republicans: We're gonna dismantle free elections and limit the rights of women and minorities who offend our religious beliefs

Free thinkers: I can't tell the difference. Bad is bad.

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