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Bio1590
12/13/21 2:05:42 PM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/least-800000-americans-died-covid-rcna8380

The United States passed another grim Covid-19 milestone Monday, as more than 800,000 Americans have now died from the virus that's plagued the country for nearly two years.

There have been at least 800,156 confirmed deaths traced to the coronavirus, according to a rolling tally by NBC News.

That's more than in any other nation, and more than the population of Boston, Washington, D.C., or Seattle.

This number is expected to increase Monday as more state and local health departments update their data.

Thirty-three states and the U.S. Virgin Islands have seen an increase in deaths over the last 14 days, NBC News data shows.

The previous 100,000 jump in deaths happened in 119 days, while the jump from 700,000 to 800,000 happened in 74, according to NBC News analysis.


Its a very sad moment, its mind-boggling, said Dr. Michael Rodriguez, vice chairman of the Department of Family Medicine at UCLA's David Geffen School of Medicine. Were beyond numb.

Rodriquez, who practiced in San Francisco during the AIDS crisis of the 1990s, said he struggles to grasp the enormity of 800,000 deaths.

According to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the seven-day death average in the U.S. was 1,092, a 27.8 percent increase from the week before.

The virus claimed its first known American victims in February 2020. When President Joe Biden took office on Jan. 20, the Covid death toll was at 403,596.

Dr. Vin Gupta, a critical care pulmonologist and affiliate associate professor at the University of Washington, said he fears the pandemic isnt close to slowing down. He expects the U.S. death toll to reach 1 million at some point in 2022.

Thats just the reality of the situation, he said. The same people who didnt get an initial shot wont get boosters. Its a lot of preventable death.

In total, the U.S. has recorded nearly 50 million cases since the pandemic began.

About 64 percent of those age 5 and older have received two doses of either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines or one dose of the single-jab Johnson & Johnson.

Last month, the CDC strengthened its recommendations about booster shots, advising everyone over 18 to get a booster six months after their second Pfizer or Moderna shot or two months after their Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

Vaccines have proven to be safe, effective and accepted by a majority of Americans.

However, vaccine hesitancy among a significant minority of the country has led to a "pandemic of the unvaccinated," health officials have repeatedly said, with both the delta and omicron variants continuing to spread.

"Technology has been important, but it's not been enough," Rodriguez said. "Unfortunately there has been this politicization that's resulted in massive misinformation."


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Jagr_68
12/13/21 2:06:48 PM
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If only we knew how to effectively prev---*gunshot*

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Cocytus
12/13/21 2:13:56 PM
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Number one killer.
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LightHawKnight
12/13/21 2:28:21 PM
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Rushing to that million.

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Strider102
12/13/21 2:29:51 PM
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Winning

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
12/13/21 2:46:24 PM
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So the death count is climbing faster now? Wtf...

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Bio1590
12/13/21 3:37:40 PM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
So the death count is climbing faster now? Wtf...

Yep!

119 days to 74 is absolutely horrendous

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tommybel89
12/13/21 3:44:16 PM
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Absolutely no way that India is lower, lmao.

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Kloe_Rinz
12/13/21 3:46:08 PM
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Too bad theres literally no way to prevent it
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Strider102
12/13/21 3:48:04 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Too bad theres literally no way to prevent it

We could have, back at the start.

But stupidity proved to be the victor.

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Tyranthraxus
12/13/21 3:49:37 PM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
So the death count is climbing faster now? Wtf...
Deaths are a lagging statistic. Cases will spike first, deaths will spike later. Cases are a better metric to determine how fucked we are in the future. Deaths let us know how fucked we are now.

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CableZL
12/13/21 3:51:24 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Deaths are a lagging statistic. Cases will spike first, deaths will spike later. Cases are a better metric to determine how fucked we are in the future. Deaths let us know how fucked we are now.

Yep.

Increase in cases ---> Increase in hospitalizations ---> Increase in deaths

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Rayman2943
12/13/21 3:52:10 PM
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False. India undercounts its deaths massively.
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thronedfire2
12/13/21 3:53:38 PM
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it's only gonna get worse in a few months when people who barely agreed to get the vaccine the first time refuse to get it again because "it didn't make the virus go away the first time so why bother"

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Bio1590
12/13/21 4:06:13 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
it's only gonna get worse in a few months when people who barely agreed to get the vaccine the first time refuse to get it again because "it didn't make the virus go away the first time so why bother"

The real kick in the pants is that these people aren't going to take the covid pill either.

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YookaLaylee
12/13/21 4:08:14 PM
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I wonder how long it'll be before we hit 1 million

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Strider102
12/13/21 4:10:46 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
I wonder how long it'll be before we hit 1 million

February-April most likely.

Of course by then we'll likely have 1-2 new variants.

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SiO4
12/13/21 4:11:09 PM
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YookaLaylee posted...
I wonder how long it'll be before we hit 1 million


Summer 2022

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CableZL
12/13/21 4:11:29 PM
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html

The deadliest flu season in recent years was 2017 - 2018 with an estimated 61,000 deaths.

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masterpug53
12/13/21 4:15:01 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
it's only gonna get worse in a few months when people who barely agreed to get the vaccine the first time refuse to get it again because "it didn't make the virus go away the first time so why bother"

This. We like to put all the blame on the vocally militant anti-vaxxers, but the more casual 'I am soooo over this pandemic' crowd proved in Spring 2021 how they can be just as much a part of the problem.

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Strider102
12/13/21 4:18:21 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
This. We like to put all the blame on the vocally militant anti-vaxxers, but the more casual 'I am soooo over this pandemic' crowd proved in Spring 2021 how they can be just as much a part of the problem.

Anti-vaxxers are definitely instrumental in the continued spread and different variants, though it got out of control mainly because of the "Covid is a hoax" and "If I get corona I get corona" crowds.

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Tyranthraxus
12/13/21 4:21:08 PM
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I feel like a better understanding of natural selection could have changed things significantly with the "I'd rather have natural immunity" crowd. It's like.

No you don't get it. You don't "get" natural immunity. You already have it. You get COVID and if your natural immunity is good enough you live, otherwise you die.

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CableZL
12/13/21 4:24:14 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I feel like a better understanding of natural selection could have changed things significantly with the "I'd rather have natural immunity" crowd. It's like.

No you don't get it. You don't "get" natural immunity. You already have it. You get COVID and if your natural immunity is good enough you live, otherwise you die.

Well... While it's still dumb AF, "natural immunity" in this regard refers to the immunity you get after having covid. Trying to justify the argument that "natural immunity is better than vaccine immunity" is still dumb AF even if that's the case.

You're still rolling the dice with your life and your health by trying to get covid without being vaccinated in order to have natural immunity against it.

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Guide
12/13/21 4:25:14 PM
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As I recall, we had some dumbasses here saying we would never reach one million.

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Strider102
12/13/21 4:27:24 PM
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Guide posted...
As I recall, we had some dumbasses here saying we would never reach one million.

We had dumbasses here who said we wouldn't reach 100,000.

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Guide
12/13/21 4:29:49 PM
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Strider102 posted...
We had dumbasses here who said we wouldn't reach 100,000.

Damn, that's ten times the dumbass. That's a lot of dumbass.

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sktgamer_13dude
12/13/21 4:31:25 PM
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Thats a lot of deaths for just the flu.

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hockeybub89
12/13/21 4:32:00 PM
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Imagine it

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Machete
12/13/21 4:32:03 PM
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thanks, donald

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Strider102
12/13/21 4:33:13 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Thats a lot of deaths for just the flu.

That's a lot of deaths from the "fake news democratic hoax" virus.

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hockeybub89
12/13/21 4:35:52 PM
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"Yeah but heart disease kills more and we don't do anything about that!"

*drives car with safety features and obeys traffic laws despite accidents killing less people yearly than the seasonal flu*

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GoatOcean
12/13/21 4:37:55 PM
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The lion's share of the blame belongs to Trump and people who voted for Trump.

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Strider102
12/13/21 4:38:04 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"Yeah but heart disease kills more and we don't do anything about that!"

*drives car with safety features and obeys traffic laws despite accidents killing less people yearly than the seasonal flu*

I remember the old days when people compared covid deaths to vehicle accidents, gun related deaths, heart attack deaths, cancer deaths, etc.

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hockeybub89
12/13/21 4:39:34 PM
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Strider102 posted...
I remember the old days when people compared covid deaths to vehicle accidents, gun related deaths, heart attack deaths, cancer deaths, etc.
They're still saying the numbers are over-reported since "hospitals count everything as a COVID death now"

The implication there is world-destroying.

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Bleuets
12/13/21 4:52:39 PM
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@Godnorgosh Gotta call bullshit on this one my dude.
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CableZL
12/13/21 4:53:34 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
They're still saying the numbers are over-reported since "hospitals count everything as a COVID death now"

The implication there is world-destroying.
Yeah, and it's based on a fundamental misunderstanding (shocker) of what was in the CARES act of 2020. That bill designated extra funding for hospitals to treat covid patients, not to declare more covid deaths.

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ProfDE
12/13/21 5:02:54 PM
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My work has 14 positive cases of the virus. Also I'm not surprised at the number of deaths because of the people who refuse to get vaccinated even though they aren't allergic.

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daynlokki
12/13/21 5:03:54 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
They're still saying the numbers are over-reported since "hospitals count everything as a COVID death now"

The implication there is world-destroying.
Im gonna try and find the report showing with excess deaths that the US is closer to 1,000,000 dead than 800,000.

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Rayman2943
12/13/21 5:14:44 PM
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https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/07/20/1018438334/

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Bio1590
12/13/21 5:27:50 PM
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Florida has had 0.1% of its total population die due to covid just since the end of July. And that's with them likely still under-reporting the numbers.

That's beyond fucked up man.

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hockeybub89
12/13/21 7:36:08 PM
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CableZL posted...
Yeah, and it's based on a fundamental misunderstanding (shocker) of what was in the CARES act of 2020. That bill designated extra funding for hospitals to treat covid patients, not to declare more covid deaths.
Exactly. But "the libs are paying hospitals for deaths" is a conspiracy theory that makes conservatives feel self-righteous, even if it makes no sense and would mean the entire medical community is complicit in the worst genocide in the history of man.

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GoatOcean
12/14/21 12:46:22 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Florida has had 0.1% of its total population die due to covid just since the end of July. And that's with them likely still under-reporting the numbers.

That's beyond fucked up man.

It's so screwy.

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GoatOcean
12/14/21 1:05:27 AM
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It's going to be the leading case for deaths in Alberta this year too.

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CADE FOSTER
12/14/21 1:46:56 AM
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still dont buy Chinas bullshit numbers bet they have 1 or 2 million deaths
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squall567
12/14/21 1:50:36 AM
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Dying to own the libs.

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