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Megaman50100 12/09/21 6:38:59 PM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2021/12/07/1062240467/kellogg-to-hire-replacements-for-striking-workers-who-rejected-a-proposed-contra --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:960768635] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2021/12/07/1062240467/kellogg-to-hire-replacements-for-striking-workers-who-rejected-a-proposed-contra </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 12/09/21 6:40:25 PM #2:	Fucking shitbags. I wish the worst upon the board of directors --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:960768689] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Fucking shitbags. I wish the worst upon the board of directors </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/09/21 6:41:03 PM #3:	This is worthy of a boycott, but I doubt we'll see that. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:960768702] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>This is worthy of a boycott, but I doubt we'll see that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 12/09/21 6:43:10 PM #4:	Tmaster148 posted... This is worthy of a boycott, but I doubt we'll see that. I was already boycotting in solidarity with the striking workers. I guess it'll go on indefinitely. Does it say what was offered in the proposal? I haven't seen the list but I saw striking workers on Facebook and Twitter saying it was insulting. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:960768766] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>This is worthy of a boycott, but I doubt we'll see that.</quote>I was already boycotting in solidarity with the striking workers. I guess it'll go on indefinitely. Does it say what was offered in the proposal? I haven't seen the list but I saw striking workers on Facebook and Twitter saying it was insulting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 12/09/21 6:44:17 PM #5:	The narrative of the last several months has been that nobody can find workers, but sure, good luck with that --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:960768810] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>The narrative of the last several months has been that nobody can find workers, but sure, good luck with that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 12/09/21 6:44:49 PM #6:	Intro2Logic posted... The narrative of the last several months has been that nobody can find workers, but sure, good luck with that The narrative only applies to fast food and retail. --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:960768826] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Intro2Logic posted... </cite> <quote>The narrative of the last several months has been that nobody can find workers, but sure, good luck with that</quote>The narrative only applies to fast food and retail. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Megaman50100 12/09/21 6:45:24 PM #7:	This older article has some info: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/07/business/kellogg-workers-strike.html --- move all remaining groundhog mercenaries to the front lines. Have sheep troopers squadrons A and B flank the cows. They're using DC-17 hoof blasters. <cite>Megaman50100 posted [p:960768842] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>This older article has some info: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/07/business/kellogg-workers-strike.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 12/09/21 6:45:27 PM #8:	Fuck scabs. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:960768846] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Fuck scabs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/09/21 6:45:50 PM #9:	gunplagirl posted... I was already boycotting in solidarity with the striking workers. I guess it'll go on indefinitely. Does it say what was offered in the proposal? I haven't seen the list but I saw striking workers on Facebook and Twitter saying it was insulting. A big sticking point has been Kellogg's insisting on keeping its two-tier system in the new contract --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:960768858] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>I was already boycotting in solidarity with the striking workers. I guess it'll go on indefinitely. Does it say what was offered in the proposal? I haven't seen the list but I saw striking workers on Facebook and Twitter saying it was insulting.</quote>A big sticking point has been Kellogg's insisting on keeping its two-tier system in the new contract </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 12/09/21 6:46:53 PM #10:	r/antiwork is trying to get people to apply with no intention of actually interviewing or anything to waste the companys time what a world --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:960768890] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>r/antiwork is trying to get people to apply with no intention of actually interviewing or anything to waste the companys time what a world </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/09/21 6:47:21 PM #11:	And they're going to add insult to injury by hiring all the new people at larger starting wages which will be higher than what many of the people previously made at the time they were fired. Only way they're going to get anyone <cite>Axiom posted [p:960768911] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>And they're going to add insult to injury by hiring all the new people at larger starting wages which will be higher than what many of the people previously made at the time they were fired. Only way they're going to get anyone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Njolk 12/09/21 6:47:45 PM #12:	Isn't that illegal? --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever <cite>Njolk posted [p:960768922] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Isn't that illegal? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 12/09/21 6:48:14 PM #13:	rekt --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:960768934] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>rekt </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 12/09/21 6:48:22 PM #14:	People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:960768941] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 12/09/21 6:48:25 PM #15:	Njolk posted... Isn't that illegal? Only if you fire the strikers --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:960768943] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Njolk posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't that illegal?</quote>Only if you fire the strikers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mizznox 12/09/21 6:49:19 PM #16:	Guess this will be an easy boycott for me, as I look over their list of brands and only see a couple that I rarely ever buy anyways. --- https://imgur.com/qUAL3fG <cite>Mizznox posted [p:960768963] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Guess this will be an easy boycott for me, as I look over their list of brands and only see a couple that I rarely ever buy anyways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 12/09/21 6:49:31 PM #17:	Axiom posted... And they're going to add insult to injury by hiring all the new people at larger starting wages which will be higher than what many of the people previously made at the time they were fired. Only way they're going to get anyone Yeah. Not really sure what the end goal is here. Plus they could be letting go tons of experience on top of all of this. Seems like they are just being really stubborn about this and will still have to change anyway. --- https://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:960768969] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Axiom posted... </cite> <quote>And they're going to add insult to injury by hiring all the new people at larger starting wages which will be higher than what many of the people previously made at the time they were fired. Only way they're going to get anyone</quote> Yeah. Not really sure what the end goal is here. Plus they could be letting go tons of experience on top of all of this. Seems like they are just being really stubborn about this and will still have to change anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/09/21 6:49:34 PM #18:	Njolk posted... Isn't that illegal? Likely not. Most, if not all, US states are at-will employment meaning you can be fired for any reason. There are things employers can't fire you for, but it's not like they need to list the reason when they fire you making any case against illegal firings hard to prove. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:960768971] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Njolk posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't that illegal?</quote> Likely not. Most, if not all, US states are at-will employment meaning you can be fired for any reason. There are things employers can't fire you for, but it's not like they need to list the reason when they fire you making any case against illegal firings hard to prove. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 12/09/21 6:50:08 PM #19:	I cant give up my cereal sorry workers --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:960768995] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>I cant give up my cereal sorry workers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 12/09/21 6:51:43 PM #21:	VigorouslySwish posted... I cant give up my cereal sorry workers You can likely buy a generic brand cereal of whatever you buy from Kelloggs that is the same thing but cheaper. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:960769039] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>VigorouslySwish posted... </cite> <quote>I cant give up my cereal sorry workers</quote> You can likely buy a generic brand cereal of whatever you buy from Kelloggs that is the same thing but cheaper. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 12/09/21 6:52:11 PM #22:	Njolk posted... Isn't that illegal? Not in this case. According to the article the union rejected 19 contracts and there are clauses in union law that states that after a certain number of good faith attempts accompanies allowed to just replace the workers. They can't fire the workers during negotiations, they can't retaliate on the workers after, and if they do put in temporary workers they need to guarantee the positions of any Union member that's striking during negotiation. However, if they fail to ratify a contract at all at that point the company is allowed to fire them. Edit: a correction, they had 19 negotiating sessions but I don't know how many contracts were actually voted on. Either way, the rest of my statement above I believe still applies. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:960769053] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Njolk posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't that illegal?</quote> Not in this case. According to the article the union rejected 19 contracts and there are clauses in union law that states that after a certain number of good faith attempts accompanies allowed to just replace the workers. They can't fire the workers during negotiations, they can't retaliate on the workers after, and if they do put in temporary workers they need to guarantee the positions of any Union member that's striking during negotiation. However, if they fail to ratify a contract at all at that point the company is allowed to fire them. Edit: a correction, they had 19 negotiating sessions but I don't know how many contracts were actually voted on. Either way, the rest of my statement above I believe still applies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/09/21 6:52:55 PM #23:	darkprince45 posted... People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. Lol. This isn't going to happen in your lifetime or anyone else's currently alive. The logistics of turning factories like this into complete automation is not feasible and won't be for a very long time <cite>Axiom posted [p:960769074] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind.</quote>Lol. This isn't going to happen in your lifetime or anyone else's currently alive. The logistics of turning factories like this into complete automation is not feasible and won't be for a very long time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 12/09/21 6:53:55 PM #24:	darkprince45 posted... People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it Another garbage conservative talking point regarding work. If automation was cost effective for them already, then they would have already implemented it and gotten rid of the workers. It's not, and they won't. Companies aren't crying about "nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK" because they can easily replace their employees. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:960769100] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it</quote>Another garbage conservative talking point regarding work. If automation was cost effective for them already, then they would have already implemented it and gotten rid of the workers. It's not, and they won't. Companies aren't crying about "nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK" because they can easily replace their employees. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 12/09/21 6:54:58 PM #25:	littlebro07 posted... r/antiwork is trying to get people to apply with no intention of actually interviewing or anything to waste the companys time what a world nice --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:960769132] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>littlebro07 posted... </cite> <quote>r/antiwork is trying to get people to apply with no intention of actually interviewing or anything to waste the companys time what a world</quote>nice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 12/09/21 6:58:38 PM #26:	Im not conservative and I dont really care about Kelloggs. It will happen eventually. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/manufacturers-embrace-robots-perfect-pandemic-worker-n1263434 --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:960769235] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Im not conservative and I dont really care about Kelloggs. It will happen eventually. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/manufacturers-embrace-robots-perfect-pandemic-worker-n1263434 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 12/09/21 6:59:24 PM #27:	"Good faith" --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:960769259] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>"Good faith"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 12/09/21 6:59:34 PM #28:	s0nicfan posted... in union law that states that after a certain number of good faith attempts Here's the key. None of them have been in good faith. Unfortunately they can probably still claim it in court. The only huge loss is Cheez Its. I've been wanting them but I can't support Kelloggs --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:960769265] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>in union law that states that after a certain number of good faith attempts</quote>Here's the key. None of them have been in good faith. Unfortunately they can probably still claim it in court. The only huge loss is Cheez Its. I've been wanting them but I can't support Kelloggs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 12/09/21 7:00:22 PM #29:	https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48760799 --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:960769281] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48760799 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 12/09/21 7:04:01 PM #30:	darkprince45 posted... Im not conservative and I dont really care about Kelloggs. It will happen eventually. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/manufacturers-embrace-robots-perfect-pandemic-worker-n1263434 And so when people are out of work because the robots took the jobs who will purchase the goods? Like I'm not disagreeing with the core of the argument, automation of huge swathes of the workforce is a thing that will absolutely happen once the technology is good enough and affordable. But the issue that capitalists have yet to answer is that if huge chunks of the populace are without gainful employment then how will they afford to purchase the good and services that our robot overlords are producing? Do we end up like Earth in The Expanse series? Where most people just live on some sort of government provided basic income? --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:960769381] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>Im not conservative and I dont really care about Kelloggs. It will happen eventually. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/manufacturers-embrace-robots-perfect-pandemic-worker-n1263434</quote>And so when people are out of work because the robots took the jobs who will purchase the goods? Like I'm not disagreeing with the core of the argument, automation of huge swathes of the workforce is a thing that will absolutely happen once the technology is good enough and affordable. But the issue that capitalists have yet to answer is that if huge chunks of the populace are without gainful employment then how will they afford to purchase the good and services that our robot overlords are producing? Do we end up like Earth in The Expanse series? Where most people just live on some sort of government provided basic income? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 12/09/21 7:04:12 PM #31:	The execs should all receive a yogurt enema like the doctor ordered. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://imgur.com/ZkQRDsR - https://imgur.com/2x2gtgP <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:960769386] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>The execs should all receive a yogurt enema like the doctor ordered. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 12/09/21 7:05:46 PM #32:	ScazarMeltex posted... And so when people are out of work because the robots took the jobs who will purchase the goods? Like I'm not disagreeing with the core of the argument, automation of huge swathes of the workforce is a thing that will absolutely happen once the technology is good enough and affordable. But the issue that capitalists have yet to answer is that if huge chunks of the populace are without gainful employment then how will they afford to purchase the good and services that our robot overlords are producing? Do we end up like Earth in The Expanse series? Where most people just live on some sort of government provided basic income? Thats a good question. The government eventually will have to poor use a basic monthly allowance. Or I guess we will just lose the lower middle class and under. --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:960769430] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>And so when people are out of work because the robots took the jobs who will purchase the goods? Like I'm not disagreeing with the core of the argument, automation of huge swathes of the workforce is a thing that will absolutely happen once the technology is good enough and affordable. But the issue that capitalists have yet to answer is that if huge chunks of the populace are without gainful employment then how will they afford to purchase the good and services that our robot overlords are producing? Do we end up like Earth in The Expanse series? Where most people just live on some sort of government provided basic income?</quote> Thats a good question. The government eventually will have to poor use a basic monthly allowance. Or I guess we will just lose the lower middle class and under. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kawalimus 12/09/21 7:06:41 PM #33:	darkprince45 posted... People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it They would have already done this if it were feasible, regardless of whether people were asking for a better deal or not. <cite>kawalimus posted [p:960769448] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it</quote> They would have already done this if it were feasible, regardless of whether people were asking for a better deal or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 12/09/21 7:07:55 PM #34:	darkprince45 posted... People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it LOL, I remember the articles 10 years ago talking about the amazing burger making machines that'd replace all fast food fry cooks. Now during the pandemic these same places are crying about worker shortages. If automation was so quick and easy, why haven't they done it ten years after articles talked about these kinds of robots. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://imgur.com/ZkQRDsR - https://imgur.com/2x2gtgP <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:960769480] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it</quote>LOL, I remember the articles 10 years ago talking about the amazing burger making machines that'd replace all fast food fry cooks. Now during the pandemic these same places are crying about worker shortages. If automation was so quick and easy, why haven't they done it ten years after articles talked about these kinds of robots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 12/09/21 7:08:35 PM #35:	littlebro07 posted... r/antiwork is trying to get people to apply with no intention of actually interviewing or anything to waste the companys time DarkChozoGhost posted... nice nice darkprince45 posted... Im not conservative and I dont really care about Kelloggs. It will happen eventually. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/manufacturers-embrace-robots-perfect-pandemic-worker-n1263434 We dont like your opinion, therefor you are a conservative. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:960769503] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>littlebro07 posted... </cite> <quote>r/antiwork is trying to get people to apply with no intention of actually interviewing or anything to waste the companys time</quote> DarkChozoGhost posted... </cite> <quote>nice</quote>nice darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>Im not conservative and I dont really care about Kelloggs. It will happen eventually. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/manufacturers-embrace-robots-perfect-pandemic-worker-n1263434</quote>We dont like your opinion, therefor you are a conservative. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelicRadiance 12/09/21 7:09:51 PM #36:	darkprince45 posted... People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it Society will have to change --- She/Her <cite>AngelicRadiance posted [p:960769528] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it</quote>Society will have to change </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 12/09/21 7:15:01 PM #37:	1337toothbrush posted... LOL, I remember the articles 10 years ago talking about the amazing burger making machines that'd replace all fast food fry cooks. Now during the pandemic these same places are crying about worker shortages. If automation was so quick and easy, why haven't they done it ten years after articles talked about these kinds of robots. It's just not possible at this time without a massive overhaul and that's on top of the workforce that would be needed to maintain said robots. None of us are going to see true automation in our lifetimes <cite>Axiom posted [p:960769690] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite> <quote>LOL, I remember the articles 10 years ago talking about the amazing burger making machines that'd replace all fast food fry cooks. Now during the pandemic these same places are crying about worker shortages. If automation was so quick and easy, why haven't they done it ten years after articles talked about these kinds of robots.</quote>It's just not possible at this time without a massive overhaul and that's on top of the workforce that would be needed to maintain said robots. None of us are going to see true automation in our lifetimes </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 12/09/21 7:17:43 PM #38:	I think you guys dont have an understanding of what it will really be like. Of course it will never be 100 percent. But the positions will be extremely limited and resort to basically mechanically based jobs. My grocery store got rid of all its cashiers, greeters, theres only 1 employee by self checkout and the rest are stockers. Fast food places are becoming the same --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:960769761] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>I think you guys dont have an understanding of what it will really be like. Of course it will never be 100 percent. But the positions will be extremely limited and resort to basically mechanically based jobs. My grocery store got rid of all its cashiers, greeters, theres only 1 employee by self checkout and the rest are stockers. Fast food places are becoming the same </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MasterVading 12/09/21 7:21:04 PM #39:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Another garbage conservative talking point regarding work. If automation was cost effective for them already, then they would have already implemented it and gotten rid of the workers. It's not, and they won't. Companies aren't crying about "nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK" because they can easily replace their employees. Conservative talking point. --- Wat. <cite>MasterVading posted [p:960769844] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>Another garbage conservative talking point regarding work. If automation was cost effective for them already, then they would have already implemented it and gotten rid of the workers. It's not, and they won't. Companies aren't crying about "nO oNe WaNtS tO wOrK" because they can easily replace their employees.</quote> Conservative talking point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/09/21 7:22:58 PM #40:	I think it should be noted that prior to the strike, Kellogg's was working these people 80 hour weeks https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cereal-killers-80-hour-weeks-123043469.html It seems to me that if Kellogg's could automate their labor or simply hire more workers instead of paying so much overtime, they would have done so. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:960769898] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>I think it should be noted that prior to the strike, Kellogg's was working these people 80 hour weeks https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cereal-killers-80-hour-weeks-123043469.html It seems to me that if Kellogg's could automate their labor or simply hire more workers instead of paying so much overtime, they would have done so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/09/21 7:26:07 PM #41:	darkprince45 posted... People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it The likely scenario is going to be Kellogg following Nabisco to Mexico. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960769987] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>People are in for a shock when all these people go automated and leave them behind. I support the workers. Im just saying the reality of it</quote>The likely scenario is going to be Kellogg following Nabisco to Mexico. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 12/09/21 7:34:15 PM #42:	Damn Kelloggs is being unbelievably shitty these jobs sound awful, too. I dont really understand the pride in working a job just because your father and grandfather did it for decades Remember companies have no loyalty to you --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:960770236] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Damn Kelloggs is being unbelievably shitty these jobs sound awful, too. I dont really understand the pride in working a job just because your father and grandfather did it for decades Remember companies have no loyalty to you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 12/09/21 8:20:52 PM #44:	Questionmarktarius posted... The likely scenario is going to be Kellogg following Nabisco to Mexico. Wasn't that a false rumour --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:960771861] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> The likely scenario is going to be Kellogg following Nabisco to Mexico. </quote> Wasn't that a false rumour</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoundGarden 12/09/21 8:24:53 PM #45:	Still gonna eat Frosted Flakes lol --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." <cite>PoundGarden posted [p:960772054] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Still gonna eat Frosted Flakes lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 12/09/21 8:40:01 PM #46:	ScazarMeltex posted... Like I'm not disagreeing with the core of the argument, automation of huge swathes of the workforce is a thing that will absolutely happen once the technology is good enough and affordable. But the issue that capitalists have yet to answer is that if huge chunks of the populace are without gainful employment then how will they afford to purchase the good and services that our robot overlords are producing? Do we end up like Earth in The Expanse series? Where most people just live on some sort of government provided basic income? Why are you pretending not to know this exact same crap has been happening for well over a century now? New Jobs become available and or people just adapt and find other work. And thanks to automation now said goods become cheaper then ever to produce, which lowers the cost for consumers. I don't when BS is sprouted enough people start to believe it without question. But this particular one is just sad. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:960772728] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Like I'm not disagreeing with the core of the argument, automation of huge swathes of the workforce is a thing that will absolutely happen once the technology is good enough and affordable. But the issue that capitalists have yet to answer is that if huge chunks of the populace are without gainful employment then how will they afford to purchase the good and services that our robot overlords are producing? Do we end up like Earth in The Expanse series? Where most people just live on some sort of government provided basic income?</quote>Why are you pretending not to know this exact same crap has been happening for well over a century now? New Jobs become available and or people just adapt and find other work. And thanks to automation now said goods become cheaper then ever to produce, which lowers the cost for consumers. I don't when BS is sprouted enough people start to believe it without question. But this particular one is just sad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 12/09/21 8:42:10 PM #47:	Bio1590 posted... Wasn't that a false rumour It's a "rumor" that always appears when union rumbling starts. Sometimes, it ends up not being a rumor. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960772832] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Bio1590 posted... </cite> <quote>Wasn't that a false rumour </quote>It's a "rumor" that always appears when union rumbling starts. Sometimes, it ends up not being a rumor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 12/10/21 1:00:13 AM #48:	Tmaster148 posted... You can likely buy a generic brand cereal of whatever you buy from Kelloggs that is the same thing but cheaper. ok but what about the back of the box --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:960783260] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Tmaster148 posted... </cite> <quote>You can likely buy a generic brand cereal of whatever you buy from Kelloggs that is the same thing but cheaper.</quote> ok but what about the back of the box </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VigorouslySwish 12/10/21 1:01:19 AM #49:	I need my shitty wordsearches and mazes to feel smart on a saturday morning --- i'm just some guy yellin' about apple sauce <cite>VigorouslySwish posted [p:960783284] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>I need my shitty wordsearches and mazes to feel smart on a saturday morning </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/10/21 1:09:09 AM #50:	Prismsblade posted... Why are you pretending not to know this exact same crap has been happening for well over a century now? New Jobs become available and or people just adapt and find other work. And thanks to automation now said goods become cheaper then ever to produce, which lowers the cost for consumers. I don't when BS is sprouted enough people start to believe it without question. But this particular one is just sad. Eventually, we are going to run out of unskilled/low-skilled jobs if we automate. And even if the autonomous robots need so much babysitting that we need as many workers as we currently have (which defeats the purpose), you simply aren't going to have an entire populace that can do the work. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:960783414] in Kellogg to... [t:79802946]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>Why are you pretending not to know this exact same crap has been happening for well over a century now? New Jobs become available and or people just adapt and find other work. And thanks to automation now said goods become cheaper then ever to produce, which lowers the cost for consumers. I don't when BS is sprouted enough people start to believe it without question. But this particular one is just sad.</quote>Eventually, we are going to run out of unskilled/low-skilled jobs if we automate. And even if the autonomous robots need so much babysitting that we need as many workers as we currently have (which defeats the purpose), you simply aren't going to have an entire populace that can do the work. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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