Current Events > BLM calls for boycott of "white companies" during holiday shopping.

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*Caucasian companies

SadHumanBean posted...

What about Latinx stores

Why you trying to claim us in this battle? It doesn't say to not go fuck with the local taco shop lol. Fight for yourself. We chillin :3

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hitokoriX posted...

Anyone who thinks this is racist is an idiot. The idea is to support black businesses during this shopping period.

And is it racist if I only marry white, hire white go to white shops for my period of being alive?

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Guide posted...

What exactly is the context that justifies boycotting white business? I'm not one of closet racist types that looks to ignore context to make boogeymen out of CRT, but I'm not seeing any context where that line isn't racist.

Are we pretending like black americans still arent being oppressed by whites in america?

Black-owned businesses have long faced challenges in getting financing. In 2018, only 31% of them received all the funding they applied for, compared with 49% of white-owned businesses, 39% of Asian-owned firms and 35% of Latino-owned businesses, according to a 2019 report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta.

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-06-20/black-owned-business-loans-banks

according to data recently made available from the US Federal Reserve, more than half of companies that have black owners were turned down for loans, a rate twice as high as white business owners. The report found that while black-owned firms were the most likely to have applied for bank financing, less than 47% of these applications were fully funded. Even when black business owners get approved, their rate of failure to receive full financing is the highest among all categories by more than 10%.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jan/16/black-owned-firms-are-twice-as-likely-to-be-rejected-for-loans-is-this-discrimination

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I will be shopping exclusively from Japan companies

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No

Guide posted...

What exactly is the context that justifies boycotting white business? I'm not one of closet racist types that looks to ignore context to make boogeymen out of CRT, but I'm not seeing any context where that line isn't racist.

It's perhaps hyperbolic to "boycott white businesses" but the idea that to build black wealth you need to support more black businesses isn't a new one.

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Well what if I said "gamers aren't nerds"

Would I be wrong?

Kinda

I4NRulez posted...

Are we pretending like black americans still arent being oppressed by whites in america?

No, and I am aware of the the data you posted, I don't deny that. But why does that mean boycotting white-owned stores? Being pro-black does not mean being anti-white.

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Guide posted...

can we back to the MLKjr style thing?

You mean boycotts?

Anteaterking posted...

It's perhaps hyperbolic to "boycott white businesses" but the idea that to build black wealth you need to support more black businesses isn't a new one.

No, not at all, that's something I support. But that doesn't mean specifically boycotting white-owned stuff, either.

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Trumble posted...

BLM supporters are racist?

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I'm not

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Conflict posted...

Yep this is totally representative of the entirety of BLM because it has the BLM logo slapped on it. Absolutely.

Unfortunately thats how it works. I get told I cant do or say a lot of shit when im in uniform cause when I am in representing our entire department

Even out of uniform in publicly speaking about my job im told to preface everything with "in my personal opinion" unless it's legit policy im citing.

They slap that logo on they are "representing" them. The rest dont agree they need to make it clear and do something to convince those to stop using their label as a platform

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lolife67 posted...

You mean boycotts?

The "every man is your brother / boycotting has a specific purpose / targeted for purpose, not simply being white" kind of thing

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Still not sure i see the value behind the protest the police thing.

Do they think that they got the guy convicted?

What's really the goal? Because all cops are NOT bad guys. Like what.

mooreandrew58 posted...

Unfortunately thats how it works. I get told I cant do or say a lot of shit when im in uniform cause when I am in representing our entire department

Even out of uniform in publicly speaking about my job im told to preface everything with "in my personal opinion" unless it's legit policy im citing.

They slap that logo on they are "representing" them. The rest dont agree they need to make it clear and do something to convince those to stop using their label as a platform

That's not how it works. A vague ideology is not a place of business or your family. No one has any responsibility to distance from or defend anyone else that shares it.

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Guide posted...

The every man is your brother / boycotting has a specific purpose / targeted for purpose, not simply being white.

This does have a specific, targeted purpose, just as those previous boycotts did. It's not "simply being white." The point is to increase black wealth and prosperity by buying from Black owned businesses. MLK likely wouldn't have an issue with that at all.

Wow them showing their true racist colors, well no fucking shit.

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Weird how most people who scream All Lives Matter in response to BLM pitch a fit literally any other time something tries to be all-inclusive.

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lolife67 posted...

This does have a specific, targeted purpose, just as those previous boycotts did. It's not "simply being white." The point is to increase black wealth and prosperity by buying from Black owned businesses. MLK likely wouldn't have an issue with that at all.

Yes, that part is good. That's not the same as boycotting white business.

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Guide posted...

No, and I am aware of the the data you posted, I don't deny that. But why does that mean boycotting white-owned stores? Being pro-black does not mean being anti-white.

I agree you dont have to be anti white but the data shows that other minorities face the same issue but not to the extent as blacks in america. So you can only really boycott white owned business.

Also, even if they said support black business this holiday it would still be found racist by the same people complaining.

Target did just that. So i ask you, What is the solution here?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/black-owned-business-featured-target-ad-inundated-racist-reviews-n1147366

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Activists have been encouraging people for ages to buy from black-owned or native-owned businesses as a form of support for those communities and as an extension of boycotts against corporations for various reasons. You can get jostled by the language, but this isn't anything new and the cause - supporting small businesses operated by minorities - is still worthy.

Go ahead and counter-boycott the black businesses being championed by this "blackxmas" campaign by buying as much shit as you want from Amazon and Wal-Mart, though. It misses the point, but that's your prerogative.

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Guide posted...

Yes, that part is good. That's not the same as boycotting white business.

I mean, that's directly what this would do and what they're specifically asking for. If I call on people to buy exclusively from Black owned businesses, isn't that the same thing?

MrMallard posted...

Activists have been encouraging people for ages to buy from black-owned or native-owned businesses as a form of support for those communities and as an extension of boycotts against corporations for various reasons. You can get jostled by the language, but this isn't anything new and the cause - supporting small businesses operated by minorities - is still worthy.

Go ahead and counter-boycott the black businesses being championed by this "blackxmas" campaign by buying as much shit as you want from Amazon and Wal-Mart, though. It misses the point, but that's your prerogative.

This.

Is telling people to shop small business discriminatory against the millions of people who work at major businesses? They have bills to pay too.

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Questionmarktarius posted...

"Let's defeat racism with... racism!"

This. It looks like the ALM people have been right all along

GoodGameGG posted...

This. It looks like the ALM people have been right all along

Wow, this 5 karma alt has me shooketh to the core

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GoodGameGG posted...

This. It looks like the ALM people have been right all along

How mad are you when a business specifically mentions they are all-inclusive?

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hockeybub89 posted...

How mad are you when a business specifically mentions they are all-inclusive?

I'm not. In cringy and racist but I mean, it's no skin off my teeth

GoodGameGG posted...

I'm not. In cringy and racist but I mean, it's no skin off my teeth

So all lives matter, but inclusivity is racist?

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Sounds pretty racist and uncalled for in my book. There no need for hate.

hockeybub89 posted...

So all lives matter, but inclusivity is racist?

It is when you go out of your way to say it. Its like how sunny in Philly pwned SJWs the last episode. These people only saw it for the applause lol

GoodGameGG posted...

Its like how sunny in Philly pwned SJWs

I would be so embarrassed if anything like this ever came from my brain.

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hockeybub89 posted...

That's not how it works. A vague ideology is not a place of business or your family. No one has any responsibility to distance from or defend anyone else that shares it.

Unfortunately its how it works. Look around people assuming its all BLM supporting the statement. If they dont want the backlash it would help if they publicly stated it wasnt BLMs official stance. People historically let the bad apples define the whole group. Its not right but its reality

Like im told not to buy alcohol in uniform cause in the past its caused the stereotype we are all a bunch of alcoholics. But a better comparison is like when a officer makes a claim on social media he thinks a particular criminal should have a bullet put in his head people assume we all think like that. Which is why it's in policy to not say or do shit outside work in uniform.

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I don't actually see the problem here

Let them cut themselves and their families off from White businesses if they want.
It just means less options for the racists and the rest of the people who aren't racist have less competition for Christmas shopping.

GoodGameGG posted...

It is when you go out of your way to say it. Its like how sunny in Philly pwned SJWs the last episode. These people only saw it for the applause lol

So stop saying All Lives Matter, snowflake

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Wow that's racist as fuck
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mooreandrew58 posted...

Unfortunately its how it works. Look around people assuming its all BLM supporting the statement. If they dont want the backlash it would help if they publicly stated it wasnt BLMs official stance. People historically let the bad apples define the whole group. Its not right but its reality

Like im told not to buy alcohol in uniform cause in the past its caused the stereotype we are all a bunch of alcoholics. But a better comparison is like when a officer makes a claim on social media he thinks a particular criminal should have a bullet put in his head people assume we all think like that. Which is why it's in policy to not say or do shit outside work in uniform.

Nah. Fuck that and fuck anyone who makes stupid assumptions. I speak for no one but myself.

You might represent your job, but you never represent your race, gender, political beliefs, religion, etc.

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Guide posted...

No, not at all, that's something I support. But that doesn't mean specifically boycotting white-owned stuff, either.

I think the idea is that spending $10 at the minority owned store down the street gets a little washed away when you spend $250 on gifts at Amazon right after.

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lolife67 posted...

I mean, that's directly what this would do and what they're specifically asking for. If I call on people to buy exclusively from Black owned businesses, isn't that the same thing?

No, because that's to the exclusion of all other business, of which there are many that are not owned by white people, either. There are, you know, a lot of races.

It is also infeasible in a majority of places in the USA to get what you need only from black-owned sources, and it has no consideration for the role of any given business's role in any given community or the relevance of their contributions. Sure, you can make the majority of your business at black-owned places, but is the request to support them the same as saying "only do business with black-owned"? Because it doesn't specify that exclusivity.

What exclusivity it does specify is to not give business to white-owned. That, specifically, is racist.

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hockeybub89 posted...

So stop saying All Lives Matter, snowflake

All lives do matter though. How can you think otherwise?

hockeybub89 posted...

Nah. Fuck that and fuck anyone who makes stupid assumptions. I speak for no one but myself.

You might represent your job, but you never represent your race, gender, political beliefs, religion, etc.

Im not talking race religion etc. I mean BLM if they did indeed use their logo/platform for this message. BLM is a group not a race. Some black people don't support BLM. Other wise id agree with ya.

I guess a better comparison would be is if I was a member of the NRA and I used their logo/platform to say something stupid like black people should be banned from owning guns. That shit would take off like a wildfire with people making out like NRA officially supported that. The nra wouldnt be required to denounce that person but it would be in their better interests to do so to hopefully curb the PR. Backlash. That's all I'm saying is if blm as a whole doesnt support this it would help their image if they did make a statement about it.

Just for clarification I'm sure you are correct in that blm as a whole isnt condoning this message but as said a couple of bad apples makes people think the whole is bad. Unfortunately rational thinking people on matters like this is pretty low

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As an Asian, I guess I'll ignore this boycott.
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Oh this is blatant racism.... if you are complaining about this. And never complained about the blight of black businesses in general I don't want to hear it.

Beyond that, this is just some random site call black Xmas. What the hell.

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cjsdowg posted...

Beyond that, this is just some random site call black Xmas. What the hell.

Which I find offensive on the merits that their name is easily confused with the classic film Black Christmas from the 70s

Boycotting "white companies" for your holiday shopping will drastically shorten your options to shop around, especially for things that you really want. And nobody got time for that shit. Want a PS5? Well, good luck getting one, no less, from a non-white company. And if they're adding Asians into the white category like some are doing, then you're completely fucked.

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StarsOfCCTV posted...

And is it racist if I only marry white, hire white go to white shops for my period of being alive?

See how what you said is hyperbolic and makes no sense? Or do I need to break it down to you?

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Blue_Dream87 posted...

BLM isnt an organization

Funny how you can donate to something that isn't an organization.

lmao