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goldenBoi45
12/04/21 9:58:12 PM
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People living in the same country, sometimes even the same state and county, can have radically different views from one another on virtually every topic?

Almost as if they are just watching a completely different movie than you are?

If that isn't programming and division by design I don't even know what is.

Do you take time to research opposing viewpoints and sources, (like with the Rittenhouse case for example) or do you frequent the same sites, and/or whatever news stories come up on your phone?

I know alot of people choose to just not even get involved in politics and current events but it seems important now more than ever to do your own research and not go with the hive.

Not trying to sound holier than thou or "woke" here either, as this is something I'm also trying very hard to do. The algorithms have just made it so much easier to lazily get outraged about the same things over and over again.

God help us when these algorithms become sentient

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SergeantGander
12/04/21 10:00:05 PM
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Algorithms are greatest tool for polarization. Keep spoon-feeding people to strengthen their confirmation bias and drive them farther apart.

Sad it would probably take another civil war and the country dividing before we could get a legitimate political party outside of the Dems and GOP

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Ysmir
12/04/21 10:00:07 PM
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Oh this one's back from his most recent purg again. Fun.

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R1masher
12/04/21 10:01:33 PM
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Its happening here

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Ysmir
12/04/21 10:02:52 PM
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TC are you gonna share with the class how many times you've been modded for melting down about masks and flaming those who wear them

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Antifar
12/04/21 10:02:55 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
People living in the same country, sometimes even the same state and county, can have radically different views from one another on virtually every topic?
What, exactly, is odd about that? If anything, the opposite would be more suggestive of "programming," no?

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hockeybub89
12/04/21 10:05:57 PM
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So what should everyone that lives around you believe, TC?

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goldenBoi45
12/04/21 10:19:37 PM
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Ysmir posted...
Oh this one's back from his most recent purg again. Fun.
Dude just because I get reported by miserable people on here for sharing not even that unpopular opinions, doesn't mean that what I said in this topic is not true.

Hell, me getting constantly reported for minor nonsense is part of what I'm talking about. People went from disagreeing with opinions, to labelling them as outright "dangerous".

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goldenBoi45
12/04/21 10:21:54 PM
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Ysmir posted...
TC are you gonna share with the class how many times you've been modded for melting down about masks and flaming those who wear them
That was ONE topic, which I apologized for after.

I got modded after that for getting into arguments with people over how bad the new Candyman was.

What you are saying is not even true.

Antifar posted...
What, exactly, is odd about that? If anything, the opposite would be more suggestive of "programming," no?
Not when it's conveniently split into 2 warring factions. There are other countries with WAY more political party choice


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Ysmir
12/04/21 10:22:52 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
I got modded after that for getting into arguments with people over how bad the new Candyman was.
Oh you mean your giant multi-topic meltdown about how it was "woke" because you never saw the original, right?

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Antifar
12/04/21 10:24:35 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Not when it's conveniently split into 2 warring factions
It's not though. Like, now more than ever you have highly visible rifts within the two party coalitions themselves.

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Ysmir
12/04/21 10:27:03 PM
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For anyone who needs to see some of TC's past gems:

The new Dave Chappelle was anything but hateful. I seriously do not fucking get
Sharing an opinion that isn't left wing = trolling
The new Candyman sucks so much ass. Can politics stay out of anything?
Why PCR tests for COVID-19 are scientifically meaningless

And most heinous of all:
If you don't care about being "cool" Creed isn't that bad of a band

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goldenBoi45
12/04/21 10:27:15 PM
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GregShmedley posted...
Goddamn, do you people ever differ in how you talk and what you rant about? Jesus Christ.
"You people"?

This is also exactly what I'm talking about. You're obviously referring to "the right", correct?

Vast majority of Twitter users who are left leaning only follow other left leaning people while people on the right follow everybody. Which explains why most of you radical people on the left use terms like "you people" and have completely stopped even wanting to hear what they have to say.

Like every topic I make on CE, you guys are just proving my point.

hockeybub89 posted...
So what should everyone that lives around you believe, TC?
Whatever they want. But if you haven't looked at something from all sides, I don't believe you have the right to act like some self righteous person who has everything figured out.

That goes for the left and right

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Antifar
12/04/21 10:28:39 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Vast majority of Twitter users who are left leaning only follow other left leaning people while people on the right follow everybody.
[citation needed]

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goldenBoi45
12/04/21 10:28:42 PM
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Ysmir posted...
Oh you mean your giant multi-topic meltdown about how it was "woke" because you never saw the original, right?
WTF???

Why TF do you guys lie on here. My first paragraph was literally me explaining why the first one was better and handled it's political themes much more effectively.

When did I ever say I never saw it?

Lol this is ridiculous

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goldenBoi45
12/04/21 10:29:44 PM
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Antifar posted...
[citation needed]
The people that run Twitter literally said that while on the Joe Rogan Podcast. And they got that from looking directly at the data

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hockeybub89
12/04/21 10:30:06 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Whatever they want. But if you haven't looked at something from all sides, I don't believe you have the right to act like some self righteous person who has everything figured out.

That goes for the left and right
So which well-researched opinion gets you regularly in trouble? Is it anti-medicne or a negative view of a racial or sexual minority?

I'm sure it's not your favorite video game console or ideal tax rate.

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goldenBoi45
12/04/21 10:30:17 PM
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Ysmir posted...
For anyone who needs to see some of TC's past gems:

The new Dave Chappelle was anything but hateful. I seriously do not fucking get
Sharing an opinion that isn't left wing = trolling
The new Candyman sucks so much ass. Can politics stay out of anything?
Why PCR tests for COVID-19 are scientifically meaningless

And most heinous of all:
If you don't care about being "cool" Creed isn't that bad of a band
I'll defend that Creed topic to the death.

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SSJPurple
12/04/21 10:30:58 PM
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Its almost like powerful groups intentionally keep the masses divided and distracted while they get rich and do w.e tf they want

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goldenBoi45
12/04/21 10:32:42 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
So which well-researched opinion gets you regularly in trouble? Is it anti-medicne or a negative view of a racial or sexual minority?

I'm sure it's not your favorite video game console or ideal tax rate.
It's honestly just me going too far with the insults and people marking me for "trolling". I'm never even being serious when I get modded and although I stand by my views none of them have gotten me modded just for having them. I may have been being a bit hyperbolic there.

But people disagreeing with you does make them jump at any opportunity to mod you because people are rats now for whatever reason lol

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hockeybub89
12/04/21 10:39:51 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
It's honestly just me going too far with the insults and people marking me for "trolling". I'm never even being serious when I get modded and although I stand by my views none of them have gotten me modded just for having them. I may have been being a bit hyperbolic there.

But people disagreeing with you does make them jump at any opportunity to mod you because people are rats now for whatever reason lol
Why do you even have views if you are mad that people are firm in their views and accuse everyone but you of not having done enough research to have a differing opinion?

Because I'm sitting here reading your posts and I'm like "Wow someone needs to step out of their echo chamber". Your views scream of someone fully buying into the political bullshit you're complaining about.

Kinda like when conspiracy theorists scream about free thinking while mindlessly parroting whatever Alex Jones wannabe they last watched.

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AloneIBreak
12/04/21 10:40:03 PM
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It is interesting to see that people sharing the same reality have such differing views, but I don't know to what extent it's deliberate versus a consequence of human folly and technology.

To answer your question, I directly sought out multiple sources to balance my view of the Rittenhouse trial.

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goldenBoi45
12/05/21 2:41:06 AM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Why do you even have views if you are mad that people are firm in their views and accuse everyone but you of not having done enough research to have a differing opinion?

Because I'm sitting here reading your posts and I'm like "Wow someone needs to step out of their echo chamber". Your views scream of someone fully buying into the political bullshit you're complaining about.

Kinda like when conspiracy theorists scream about free thinking while mindlessly parroting whatever Alex Jones wannabe they last watched.
Who said I was mad? I just think it's fascinating how divided it has become.

Until I was accused in this topic of being a constantly modded, conspiracy theory dipshit (which isn't even true) I never even got on the topic of other people specifically not liking what I say.

I even said I'm guilty myself of reacting without doing research and that I'm working on it. Never once said that I was the only one doing research. I simply asked if people were taking steps to hear from opposing sides. It was a genuine question, not an accusation.

Your post is not accurate at all to what I said and I really hate how you just lazily painted me with some Alex Jones, Trumper brush. This is all people ever do here is personally attack me instead of refuting what I've said. Happens in every topic I make that isn't left leaning and it's highly annoying

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party_animal07
12/05/21 3:23:22 AM
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It's almost like different Continents, countries, states,cities,towns, etc., have different cultures, subcultures and beliefs.

And the people in them are allowed to move between these areas, carrying their beliefs with them.


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goldenBoi45
12/05/21 3:26:45 AM
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And just like the Candyman topic, every attack on me has been debunked and none of my points have been refuted.

I'm sure I'll wake up in the morning to a suspension like always but whatever lol

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DeadBankerDream
12/05/21 3:32:33 AM
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Is TC mad that people have different views than his own and he's so psychotic he attributes that to some grand conspiracy rather than people thinking his views are bad?

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Foppe
12/05/21 4:21:52 AM
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Opinions are like magnets, nobody knows how they work.

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goldenBoi45
12/06/21 12:19:43 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Is TC mad that people have different views than his own and he's so psychotic he attributes that to some grand conspiracy rather than people thinking his views are bad?
I'm mad at the mass polarization that is going on on all sides.

How about actually reading my post instead of asking about it in a condescending way?

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codey
12/06/21 12:26:31 PM
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This whole division by design idea makes no sense to me. If I was trying to shadow control a country, why would I want them divided? If I'm capable of programming their thoughts, why would I not unite everyone to do what I want?

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DeadBankerDream
12/06/21 12:30:06 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
I'm mad at the mass polarization that is going on on all sides.

How about actually reading my post instead of asking about it in a condescending way?
Definitely sounds like you're mad that people have different opinions than you.

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Nasty_Nitro
12/06/21 12:31:12 PM
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I follow alt right news just to keep an eye on those lunatics its also entertaining


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Trumble
12/06/21 12:38:25 PM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
People living in the same country, sometimes even the same state and county, can have radically different views from one another on virtually every topic?

Almost as if they are just watching a completely different movie than you are?

People can still have different personalities, be raised with different values, live through different individual experiences, etc. It's fully expected.

With that being said, without a doubt there are active efforts to blow these differences in values out of proportion and turn people against each other based on them.

With that being said, there are some people out there who really do cross the line into asshole territory and should be excluded. And yes, such people absolutely exist on both sides (though I'd certianly note one side has a lot more of them).

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Rathinor
12/06/21 12:39:22 PM
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Isn't TC a maga who believed the fake voter fraud bullshit?
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Flannel_Ninja
12/06/21 12:41:53 PM
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News these days is an amalgamation of entertainment, news, advertising revenue and personal political narratives bought by the highest bidders. This isn't to say there aren't neutral news outlets anymore, people are just too lazy or incompetent or ideological to use them.

For your consideration:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/
https://www.politifact.com/

https://apnews.com/
https://www.pbs.org/show/newshour/
https://www.reuters.com/ (disclaimer: I think Reuters has moved to a paywall model lately)

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Trumble
12/06/21 12:43:54 PM
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^ Take care as at least some fact-checking sites are known to be biased themselves. Not generally to the point where they'll outright lie, but often, they'll be more inclined to go for a "plausible" than "true" on a fact that's not convenient to them for example, or they'll skip the fact check altogether on matters where the answer isn't favorable (and just not report on that one), etc.

As usual, the best way to deal with this is to not exclusively rely on a single source in the first place.

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goldenBoi45
12/07/21 12:10:30 AM
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codey posted...
This whole division by design idea makes no sense to me. If I was trying to shadow control a country, why would I want them divided? If I'm capable of programming their thoughts, why would I not unite everyone to do what I want?
Maybe because fighting amongst ourselves keeps us clicking on clickbait articles and engaging in comment wars instead of actually uniting together and keeping tabs on what the government is actually doing.

The government has convinced us for a very long time that they have a magic button that they can press to make all of our problems go away. Now we've gotten wise and have access to information, and have started to realize that the government isn't all powerful and doesn't actually have that button.

Instead of admitting that and sacrificing a bit of their power, they decide to sell us a lie. "Yeah, we could press this button and fix it, but, your neighbor. He won't let us press it. Until we get rid of these white supremacists/far left snowflakes, we can't press the button. Deal with them."

So we're all at each other's throats while they continue to steal millions of dollars from us.

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goldenBoi45
12/07/21 12:11:22 AM
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Rathinor posted...
Isn't TC a maga who believed the fake voter fraud bullshit?
Nope. Not at all, like literally. Biden won.

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goldenBoi45
12/07/21 12:12:23 AM
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Flannel_Ninja posted...
News these days is an amalgamation of entertainment, news, advertising revenue and personal political narratives bought by the highest bidders. This isn't to say there aren't neutral news outlets anymore, people are just too lazy or incompetent or ideological to use them.

For your consideration:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/
https://www.politifact.com/

https://apnews.com/
https://www.pbs.org/show/newshour/
https://www.reuters.com/ (disclaimer: I think Reuters has moved to a paywall model lately)
Thank you, sir.

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Zeeak4444
12/07/21 1:17:44 AM
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TC: isnt it crazy how you could have different opinions from your own family members!?


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Zeeak4444
12/07/21 1:19:22 AM
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goldenBoi45 posted...
Thank you, sir.

You seriously werent familiar with those? Not even trying to be mean but if you arent then this whole topic became infinitely more funny.

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goldenBoi45
12/07/21 6:18:58 PM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
You seriously werent familiar with those? Not even trying to be mean but if you arent then this whole topic became infinitely more funny.
I was moreso thanking him for being civil and not attacking me personally?

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