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lilORANG
11/27/21 2:35:20 PM
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He ran a fine government.
Much better than the previous fools.
Before Palpatine there was 'sith are extinct' lie that the Republic tried to force but after Papatine came back no more lying about that.

Vote Palpatine in the next election.
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monkmith
11/27/21 2:37:20 PM
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blowing up planets to send a message is bad TC.

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Mistere Man
11/27/21 2:40:50 PM
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He was a butthead! I mean he literally had a butt on his head. This makes Darth Vader Beavis. So sadly when he ran around doing his I am the great Darthholio! I need TP for my burned bunghole but we couldnt complain.

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Jagr_68
11/27/21 2:45:38 PM
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Apparently the universe was doing all fine and dandy until some weakass fancy star system got attacked by droids.

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Hornswoggled
11/27/21 2:48:35 PM
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He was just trying to prepare the universe for the arrival of an even worse threat.

It's still canon to me, damn it!
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TotallyNotAGirl
11/27/21 2:49:01 PM
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monkmith posted...

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Mistere Man
11/27/21 2:50:08 PM
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Hornswoggled posted...
He was just trying to prepare the universe for the arrival of an even worse threat.

It's still canon to me, damn it!
He just didnt realize he was that threat somehow.

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monkmith
11/27/21 3:02:50 PM
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Hornswoggled posted...
He was just trying to prepare the universe for the arrival of an even worse threat.

It's still canon to me, damn it!


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Xethuminra
11/27/21 3:05:34 PM
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Palpatine was a soulless husk, host to the whims of creatures which should not be -- in direct opposition to the wills of the living force.

It's JJ's best contribution to the series,imo
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Questionmarktarius
11/27/21 3:06:17 PM
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Mistere Man
11/27/21 3:07:32 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Not orange enough. You do not know the power of the Cheetos dust!

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UnfairRepresent
11/27/21 3:08:37 PM
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We see more about it in the Extended universe and video games.

But it becomes an authoratian state. Palpatine is a dictator. Rebellion is dealt with via execution. Planets are turned into slave states that build the empire.

The whole concept of "Peace" being "You're not allowed to do anything or you'll be killed."

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PMarth2002
11/27/21 3:16:57 PM
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You don't realize how genocide of an entire planet's population is bad?


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Questionmarktarius
11/27/21 3:23:34 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
You don't realize how genocide of an entire planet's population is bad?
That was Tarkin.
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ToadallyAwesome
11/27/21 3:24:52 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
We see more about it in the Extended universe and video games.

But it becomes an authoratian state. Palpatine is a dictator. Rebellion is dealt with via execution. Planets are turned into slave states that build the empire.

The whole concept of "Peace" being "You're not allowed to do anything or you'll be killed."

This plus the Empire was really xenophobic so if you werent human or human adjacent then you werent going to be more than a low rank staffer.

Yes, Thrawn exists but he is the outlier and its kind of his thing to be the high ranking Alien in the Empire.

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Gobstoppers12
11/27/21 3:25:18 PM
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lilORANG posted...
He ran a fine government.
uh

did you see Alderaan?

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PMarth2002
11/27/21 3:29:10 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
That was Tarkin.

Acting completely on his own with no orders about how to use the imperial military's planet destroying super weapon?

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Gobstoppers12
11/27/21 3:29:12 PM
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Hornswoggled posted...
He was just trying to prepare the universe for the arrival of an even worse threat.

It's still canon to me, damn it!
That was part of the single worst facet of the often-dumb EU lore. Not only did that revelation defang the evils of Palpatine by making him some kind of misunderstood guardian of the galaxy, but it also hyped up the absolute dumbest creation of the entire Star Wars universe and its many disappointing avenues.

The Yuuzhan Vong are 100% and without any measure of doubt the single worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars, canon or not.

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lilORANG
11/27/21 3:31:20 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
there are some very fine people in the Sith

All two of them?
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Questionmarktarius
11/27/21 3:32:12 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Acting completely on his own with no orders about how to use the imperial military's planet destroying super weapon?
Plausible deniability is a hell of a drug.
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Verdekal
11/27/21 3:39:14 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
Acting completely on his own with no orders about how to use the imperial military's planet destroying super weapon?
Not sure if it's Canon but Tarkin would've been on deep Bantha poodoo if he lived. Alderman was significant and did a good job at turning opinion against the Empire.


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IShall_Run_Amok
11/27/21 3:40:52 PM
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Broke EU: "Palpatine wasn't so bad! He prepared the galaxy for the Boozin' Dong! They look like the troll from Ernest Scared Stupid had sex with a Power Rangers villain."

Woke PT: "Palpatine was bad! Here is his backstory. Its very complicated, and it doesn't really make sense."

Bespoke OT: "Palpatine is bad. Just look at him! His eyes are all gross. Damn yo."

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Southernfatman
11/27/21 3:41:17 PM
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George Lucas: "The empire and Palpatine are basically Nazi Germany and Hitler and other bad groups/people."
People on the internet: "Well, I don't know..."

And the Vong sounded like something a 14 year old would make up. "Dude, they have like living spaceships and they scar themselves! And the force totally doesn't work on them either bro!"

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Gamerguymass
11/27/21 3:57:36 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
George Lucas: "The empire and Palpatine are basically Nazi Germany and Hitler and other bad groups/people."
People on the internet: "Well, I don't know..."

And the Vong sounded like something a 14 year old would make up. "Dude, they have like living spaceships and they scar themselves! And the force totally doesn't work on them either bro!"

And yet it was still far better then the shit that Disney put out.

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Gobstoppers12
11/27/21 3:58:42 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...


And yet it was still far better then the shit that Disney put out.
No, I will absolutely die on this hill if I must. The Vong were 100% the worst thing ever added to Star Wars. There is no wiggle room, no ambiguity, and no argument against this certifiable fact.

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Questionmarktarius
11/27/21 4:04:20 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
The Vong were 100% the worst thing ever added to Star Wars.
Worse than Harvey Korman's cooking show?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCyMK4wqD4I
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Nukazie
11/27/21 4:05:33 PM
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monkmith posted...
blowing up planets to send a message is bad TC.
it was just another campaign stunt

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Gobstoppers12
11/27/21 4:16:56 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Worse than Harvey Korman's cooking show?
Yes. The cooking show was harmless. The Vong actively torpedoed the existing tone and feel of the Star Wars universe. They made it feel like some kind of weird Ghosts of Mars crossover. They were also given wayyyy too much credit and too many accomplishments compared to how lame they were.

"Let's make the edgiest, ugliest, most deranged, most disgusting race we can come up with. Let's also make them immune to the force for no good reason. And also let's have them be so powerful and so capable that they obliterate a huge percentage of the known galaxy practically unopposed."

The fact that the Vong wars killed over 300 trillion civilians permanently taints the ongoing existence of the EU. That's too big of a number and too heavy of an impact to assign to some shitty fanfiction-tier Star Trek knockoff species.

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Questionmarktarius
11/27/21 4:26:39 PM
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Yuuzhan Vong are just a product of the Dragonball Effect, where every antagonist has to be more absurd than the last one.
Being designed by some 90s kid who watched way too much Hellraiser is incidental.
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kuwab0
11/27/21 4:37:41 PM
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