Current Events > What can minimum wages actually buy you?

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Minimum wage is $7.25 per hour.

Can you buy a shirt with that? Apparently even Goodwill prices shirts at $6.99 and thus $7.50 after tax.

Can you buy lunch for this? Most fast food place I know of are over this for enough food to satisfy and barely close to this to be going on a diet or anorexic.

An uber ride to your job probably cost more.

Most dumb toys cost almost $10 now even so you can't even give your child a nice little surprise.

Worth an hour of your life?

Are you making a point or making fun of people

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Depression.

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Who works for only one hour?

MedeaLysistrata posted...

Are you making a point or making fun of people

I am not making in fun. Why would you ask this?

Questionmarktarius posted...

Who works for only one hour?

holy.
fucking.
shit.

@Questionmarktarius

the government should be supporting people who's skills dont merit higher wages
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g980 posted...

the government should be supporting people who's skills dont merit higher wages

Quite the opposite. Walmart is already one of the biggest sources of welfare.

1. People should be paid higher wages so the government isn't forced to support them.
2. Skills not meriting higher wages is scam and a lie and shame on you
3. These are infact jobs the pandemics labeled as essential... yet my "higher skilled" job was not...

You can live nicely if you are still at home with no bills

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I'm living well with 10 cent an hour.

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skermac posted...

You can live nicely if you are still at home with no bills

What thought process made you decide to actually post this??

Sometimes I think having status in the first place actually makes people more industrious

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I once read that each Walmart store on average costs taxpayers $400,000/year in welfare et al, and that was like 15 years ago.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Sometimes I think having status in the first place actually makes people more industrious

Why do you value being "industrious" ?

Shablagoo posted...

I once read that each Walmart store on average costs taxpayers $400,000/year in welfare et al, and that was like 15 years ago.

This is correct.

Walmart is literally being paid by you and me to make billions of profits every year. You know, we could say that isn't right and Walmart should use some of their profits to pay their essential workers more....

But what if we one day make Walmart and we don't want to have to pay our workers more!!!!

Like wtf

WingsOfGood posted...

Quite the opposite. Walmart is already one of the biggest sources of welfare.

1. People should be paid higher wages so the government isn't forced to support them.
2. Skills not meriting higher wages is scam and a lie and shame on you
3. These are infact jobs the pandemics labeled as essential... yet my "higher skilled" job was not...

1: no, welfare of its citizens the government's job. Walmart's job is to sell shit to people that want to buy shit.

2: so a receptionist's skills are just as valuable as a doctor's?

3: essential just means that *someone* has to do it
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WingsOfGood posted...

Worth an hour of your life?

this post wasn't worth a minute of my life let alone seconds of my life.
although the areas with the low mininum wage have areas where the cost of living is lower.

mainly in the midwest and upper-lower southern states.
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It buys nothing now thanks to inflation.

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in my area, a 40 hour a week job (likely 2 jobs at 20 hrs a week, thus increasing gas expenses and cutting into free time) @ minwage gets you:

Approx. $1900-2100/month

Cheapest room rental in the city in a shithole: $500
Car insurance, liability only (you're only allowed to own a beater): $150
Cellphone bill, low end: $60
Internet bill, low end: $75
Utilities share (assuming 4 people in a house, which is what 500 gets you): $75

Bare necessities: 860

Groceries: $350mo for a single, likely more with the higher prices
Gas, w/ 2 jobs, avg 30km per day 6 days per week (Cuz 2 jobs): $120/mo

Random other stuff such as netflix subscription, new toothbrushes, cleaning supplies, medication, etc: $50/mo

total: $1380/mo

that leaves you with about $600/mo of flex money. Keep in mind, you live like a slum with a beater car, renting a room in some shithole house in the getto, never ever ever eating out, zero entertainment budget, zero emergency budget, zero automobile maintenance budget, etc.

Suppose you want a 1-bedroom apartment? your flex money goes down to <$100/mo. Good luck buying winter tires and going out on dates with that.

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Minimum wage here in Hawaii will get you about 8-10 frozen dinners depending on the sale. Taking an Uber to work would be horribly inefficient. Instead, I pay $70 for 2 years of free bus rides.

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essentially it can allow you to survive, but you literally cannot be a functional member of society. Can't even buy christmas gifts for anyone.

It's essentially "This keeps you out of the homeless shelter" wage. Hence the name, minimum wage.

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Naysaspace posted...

essentially it can allow you to survive

kek

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Naysaspace posted...

in my area, a 40 hour a week job (likely 2 jobs at 20 hrs a week, thus increasing gas expenses and cutting into free time) @ minwage gets you:

Approx. $1900-2100/month

Cheapest room rental in the city in a shithole: $500
Car insurance, liability only (you're only allowed to own a beater): $150
Cellphone bill, low end: $60
Internet bill, low end: $75
Utilities share (assuming 4 people in a house, which is what 500 gets you): $75

Bare necessities: 860

Groceries: $350mo for a single, likely more with the higher prices
Gas, w/ 2 jobs, avg 30km per day 6 days per week (Cuz 2 jobs): $120/mo

Random other stuff such as netflix subscription, new toothbrushes, cleaning supplies, medication, etc: $50/mo

total: $1380/mo

that leaves you with about $600/mo of flex money. Keep in mind, you live like a slum with a beater car, renting a room in some shithole house in the getto, never ever ever eating out, zero entertainment budget, zero emergency budget, zero automobile maintenance budget, etc.

Suppose you want a 1-bedroom apartment? your flex money goes down to <$100/mo. Good luck buying winter tires and going out on dates with that.

Is that guy who always writes those weird budget articles?

YugiNoob posted...

Minimum wage here in Hawaii will get you about 8-10 frozen dinners depending on the sale. Taking an Uber to work would be horribly inefficient. Instead, I pay $70 for 2 years of free bus rides.

You pay $70 for two years of paid bus rides

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No, because my pass gets me free rides. Theres no need to get all pissy about it anyway

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YugiNoob posted...

No, because my pass gets me free rides.

It's like claiming that paying the rent gives you a free place to sleep.

Questionmarktarius posted...

It's like claiming that paying the rent gives you a free place to sleep.

Ya really, lol.

But that is how comapnies get people. Some people don't really think things through.

If you're living off minimum wage, you absolutely have to pool together money with other people to do anything or even live somewhat reasonably.

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Naysaspace posted...

in my area, a 40 hour a week job (likely 2 jobs at 20 hrs a week, thus increasing gas expenses and cutting into free time) @ minwage gets you:

Approx. $1900-2100/month

Minimum wage is around $16/hr for you or are you somehow dodging taxes in this scenario?

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VigorouslySwish posted...

You pay $70 for two years of paid bus rides

Questionmarktarius posted...

It's like claiming that paying the rent gives you a free place to sleep.

Ill bet you guys are a hoot at parties. Either way works, and being so pedantic does nothing to lessen the fact that $70 is an extremely good deal for unlimited transportation.

https://www.wmata.com/fares/Monthly-Pass/


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Funny how US workers are actually often like "well actuaaaaallly...."

They been so duped it is sad

https://www.internations.org/go/moving-to-denmark
There you go. Get on it.

Questionmarktarius posted...

https://www.internations.org/go/moving-to-denmark
There you go. Get on it.

So you would rather every worker move to Denmark than poor McDonalds have to raise their wages?

@Questionmarktarius

WingsOfGood posted...

Funny how US workers are actually often like "well actuaaaaallly...."

They been so duped it is sad

McDonalds gave us free meals on shift and a discount when not working, $11 minimum, medical and dental insurance, and a 401K that paid 3 to 1 for the first 1% and matched 1 to 1 for the next 3%.


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WingsOfGood posted...

So you would rather every worker move to Denmark than poor McDonalds have to raise their wages?

@Questionmarktarius

In addition, how does someone making $9 an hour just up and move?

You realize how idiotic your post is correct?
Like, part of not paying people is because they can't afford to quit or leave.
That is why we call it wage slavery.

If they had the option, they probably would go to Denmark.

YugiNoob posted...

McDonalds gave us free meals on shift and a discount when not working, $11 minimum, medical and dental insurance, and a 401K that paid 3 to 1 for the first 1% and matched 1 to 1 for the next 3%.

In US?

WingsOfGood posted...

So you would rather every worker move to Denmark than poor McDonalds have to raise their wages?

That would certainly drive US McDonalds to rethink its pay structure.

No amount of "fight for 15!" protests over the last decade or so got fast food to move on wages, at all. Workers simply refusing to work there did, over these past couple years.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

Minimum wage is around $16/hr for you or are you somehow dodging taxes in this scenario?

yeah this about how much I make after taxes per month

min wage would closer to 1500 - 1800 a month after taxes

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Questionmarktarius posted...

That would certainly drive US McDonalds to rethink its pay structure.

No amount of "fight for 15!" protests over the last decade or so got fast food to move on wages, at all. Workers simply refusing to work there did, over these past couple years.

Well part of getting them to refuse to work there is letting them know how much McDonalds is stealing their labor.

If instead of snide remarks like "move to Denmark" you assisted and let people know McDonalds pays Denmark employees 3 more AND has lower big mac prices, then maybe this efforts would succeed more.
You gotta acknowlesge that laughing at workers wanting a living wage and making bs arguments works against it.

You have to make above minimum wage regardless of how much minimum wage is. If it were up to me anyone who thinks otherwise would be put in a mental institution until they think otherwise.

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GreenGoblinOck posted...

You have to make above minimum wage regardless of how much minimum wage is. If it were up to me anyone who thinks otherwise would be put in a mental institution until they think otherwise.

Wtf kinda braindead post is this?

WingsOfGood posted...

In US?

Yup

NGL My current job for the state has much better benefits, but both corporate and franchise stores Ive worked for have had benefits. Those benefits were from the corporate one.

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YugiNoob posted...

Yup

NGL My current job for the state has much better benefits, but both corporate and franchise stores Ive worked for have had benefits. Those benefits were from the corporate one.

Part time or full time? Snopes suggests Denmark even pays $20 to part time and these benefits to to part time:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mcdonalds-workers-denmark/

A part time denmark mcdonald employee makes more than one in US who worked 8 hours a day....

Full time. Obviously Denmark workers have it much better, but Im just trying to say that people can underestimate what employees here get.

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WingsOfGood posted...

Wtf kinda braindead post is this?

I meant to make a decent living you have to make above it. It'd still be not enough to live off of even if it was $100,000,000 an hour.

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It blows my mind that people are still getting duped by that Danish McDonalds claim.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

It blows my mind that people are still getting duped by that Danish McDonalds claim.

Snopes fact checked it.

What bs are you on about? @Broseph_Stalin

WingsOfGood posted...

Snopes fact checked it.

What bs are you on about? @Broseph_Stalin

And if you actually read the snopes article you would have realized that even they didn't adjust for PPP which is what makes those figures meaningless.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

And if you actually read the snopes article you would have realized that even they didn't adjust for PPP which is what makes those figures meaningless.

I read it and snopes rated it as true and infact the price they pay employees and the pension plan and thise benefits going to part time workers all comes out as correct.
Meanwhile your gimmick is to fight tooth and nail, even to lie about stuff, to deny capitalistic greed. Smh