Poll of the Day > Seriously though

Topic List	Page List: 1
PeterPumpknhead 11/21/21 3:23:53 AM #1:	Fuck Dave Chappell https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-mourns-deadliest-year-transgender-americans --- I'm mead. I struggle with BPD. It isn't an excuse, but it's a real illness. I'm trying. <cite>PeterPumpknhead posted [p:960201012] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>Fuck Dave Chappell https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-mourns-deadliest-year-transgender-americans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeterPumpknhead 11/21/21 1:57:33 PM #2:	Bump --- I'm mead. I struggle with BPD. It isn't an excuse, but it's a real illness. I'm trying. <cite>PeterPumpknhead posted [p:960211214] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>Bump </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lynyrd_Skynyrd 11/21/21 2:08:46 PM #3:	He's a jackass <cite>Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted [p:960211587] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>He's a jackass </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 11/21/21 2:15:18 PM #4:	What a grandstanding piece of shit Biden is, we all know he doesn't care about transgender people --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:960211767] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>What a grandstanding piece of shit Biden is, we all know he doesn't care about transgender people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeterPumpknhead 11/21/21 2:16:50 PM #5:	Muscles posted... What a grandstanding piece of shit Biden is, we all know he doesn't care about transgender people not the issue, dont distract --- I'm mead. I struggle with BPD. It isn't an excuse, but it's a real illness. I'm trying. <cite>PeterPumpknhead posted [p:960211823] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>What a grandstanding piece of shit Biden is, we all know he doesn't care about transgender people</quote> not the issue, dont distract </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 11/21/21 2:20:55 PM #6:	What does this have to do with Dave chapel --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:960211936] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>What does this have to do with Dave chapel </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 11/21/21 2:21:29 PM #7:	Muscles posted... What a grandstanding piece of shit Biden is, we all know he doesn't care about transgender people it's better than what the other guy would have done --- HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY HELLY <cite>likehelly posted [p:960211948] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>What a grandstanding piece of shit Biden is, we all know he doesn't care about transgender people</quote> it's better than what the other guy would have done </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeterPumpknhead 11/21/21 2:45:14 PM #8:	FatalAccident posted... What does this have to do with Dave chapel have you seen his latest special --- I'm mead. I struggle with BPD. It isn't an excuse, but it's a real illness. I'm trying. <cite>PeterPumpknhead posted [p:960212663] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>FatalAccident posted... </cite> <quote>What does this have to do with Dave chapel</quote> have you seen his latest special </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 11/21/21 3:40:54 PM #9:	Yeah, what does this have to do with his show? --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:960214177] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, what does this have to do with his show? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeterPumpknhead 11/21/21 3:58:48 PM #10:	FatalAccident posted... Yeah, what does this have to do with his show? I dont its a coincidence that his public criticism of an already vulnerable group is leading to a real increase in violence against trans people --- I'm mead. I struggle with BPD. It isn't an excuse, but it's a real illness. I'm trying. <cite>PeterPumpknhead posted [p:960214792] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>FatalAccident posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, what does this have to do with his show?</quote> I dont its a coincidence that his public criticism of an already vulnerable group is leading to a real increase in violence against trans people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 11/21/21 5:48:44 PM #11:	I feel like that claim about it being the deadliest year can't possibly be right, given the very long history of violence and constant danger that was so much more prevalent even twenty years ago, without even getting to the 60s and 70s where those murders often weren't even investigated and law enforcement often actively participated in violence towards the LGBT community. But this is coming from the former-VP of a president who claimed it's easier for people to get a gun than book, so the amount of hyperbole would make Trump blush. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:960218436] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>I feel like that claim about it being the deadliest year can't possibly be right, given the very long history of violence and constant danger that was so much more prevalent even twenty years ago, without even getting to the 60s and 70s where those murders often weren't even investigated and law enforcement often actively participated in violence towards the LGBT community. But this is coming from the former-VP of a president who claimed it's easier for people to get a gun than book, so the amount of hyperbole would make Trump blush. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeterPumpknhead 11/21/21 6:10:57 PM #12:	This topic is meant to be more about the findings themself and not just Bidens response to it Sadly I dont think most previous presidents would comment on it at all --- I'm mead. I struggle with BPD. It isn't an excuse, but it's a real illness. I'm trying. <cite>PeterPumpknhead posted [p:960219255] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>This topic is meant to be more about the findings themself and not just Bidens response to it Sadly I dont think most previous presidents would comment on it at all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 11/22/21 2:44:03 AM #13:	PeterPumpknhead posted... I dont its a coincidence that his public criticism of an already vulnerable group is leading to a real increase in violence against trans people If youre talking about the Closer, that was released like last month. Your link talks about it being the deadliest year for trans people, which whilst thats awful it has nothing to do with a show that was released in October this year. Its not a coincidence, his show coming out last year literally has nothing to do with increase in violence over the past twelve months. --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:960233175] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>PeterPumpknhead posted... </cite> <quote>I dont its a coincidence that his public criticism of an already vulnerable group is leading to a real increase in violence against trans people</quote>If youre talking about the Closer, that was released like last month. Your link talks about it being the deadliest year for trans people, which whilst thats awful it has nothing to do with a show that was released in October this year. Its not a coincidence, his show coming out last year literally has nothing to do with increase in violence over the past twelve months. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PeterPumpknhead 11/22/21 3:01:32 AM #14:	FatalAccident posted... If youre talking about the Closer, that was released like last month. Your link talks about it being the deadliest year for trans people, which whilst thats awful it has nothing to do with a show that was released in October this year. Its not a coincidence, his show coming out last year literally has nothing to do with increase in violence over the past twelve months. Hes been bitching about the online trans community for years now and things have just been getting more and more dangerous for an already vulnerable group I have a younger sibling who is trans. Im proud of them. I come at this from a place of wanting to protect them from harm. And theres some people online that use his comedy in particular as fuel that they add to the fire of internet bullying that persists only to try to drive the vulnerable into states of self harm. Those people are real and they dont need any help from celebrities. --- I'm mead. I struggle with BPD. It isn't an excuse, but it's a real illness. I'm trying. <cite>PeterPumpknhead posted [p:960233396] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>FatalAccident posted... </cite> <quote>If youre talking about the Closer, that was released like last month. Your link talks about it being the deadliest year for trans people, which whilst thats awful it has nothing to do with a show that was released in October this year. Its not a coincidence, his show coming out last year literally has nothing to do with increase in violence over the past twelve months.</quote> Hes been bitching about the online trans community for years now and things have just been getting more and more dangerous for an already vulnerable group I have a younger sibling who is trans. Im proud of them. I come at this from a place of wanting to protect them from harm. And theres some people online that use his comedy in particular as fuel that they add to the fire of internet bullying that persists only to try to drive the vulnerable into states of self harm. Those people are real and they dont need any help from celebrities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hungrymike 11/22/21 12:11:57 PM #16:	PeterPumpknhead posted... I dont its a coincidence that his public criticism of an already vulnerable group is leading to a real increase in violence against trans people You can't say Dave's citicism led to the increase. It said the number killed was 46. What was it before? Was there not also an increase in the general pop? Was there an increase in the number of trans people? <cite>hungrymike posted [p:960242025] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>PeterPumpknhead posted... </cite> <quote>I dont its a coincidence that his public criticism of an already vulnerable group is leading to a real increase in violence against trans people</quote>You can't say Dave's citicism led to the increase. It said the number killed was 46. What was it before? Was there not also an increase in the general pop? Was there an increase in the number of trans people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 11/22/21 12:44:53 PM #17:	Zeus posted... I feel like that claim about it being the deadliest year can't possibly be right, given the very long history of violence and constant danger that was so much more prevalent even twenty years ago, without even getting to the 60s and 70s where those murders often weren't even investigated and law enforcement often actively participated in violence towards the LGBT community. A quick bit of digging found this: https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021 Looks like the HRC has only been specifically tracking trans murders since 2013, so that wouldn't capture more historical data. It's likely that data doesn't actually exist, given that even this data is likely underreported even with strong efforts to ensure as many instances of anti-trans violence are identified as possible. That said, the data they provide indicates that the number averaged between 20 and 25 from 2015 to 2019. 2020 saw 44 such murders, 2021 has already seen 47, almost double the average of the previous 5 years. Two data points don't necessarily indicate a trend, and that may be partially explained by the uptick in domestic violence seen due to pandemic isolation over the last two years, but that's also coincided with increasingly aggressive anti-trans rhetoric leading up to the 2020 election (since restricting trans rights is apparently a major election platform), on which the right has doubled down since losing. It may not be as bad as when police were literally forming death squads to hunt down trans people (though we'll never know the actual figures involved in that), but that doesn't mean there isn't a deeply alarming trend that a whole lot of very bad people seem far too excited about. That shouldn't be ignored, and it certainly shouldn't be accepted just because it's "not as bad as it used to be." PeterPumpknhead posted... I dont its a coincidence that his public criticism of an already vulnerable group is leading to a real increase in violence against trans people It's fairly unlikely that Chapelle has had an appreciable impact on the uptick in violence. His comments are tone deaf and insensitive given how vulnerable their subject population is, and represent a broader culture of ignorance (voluntary or otherwise) of trans people's plight. but I wouldn't specifically blame him for violence. He's just part of the problem (for what he can and should be held accountable), not a root cause of it. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:960242876] in Seriously ... [t:79770692]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>I feel like that claim about it being the deadliest year can't possibly be right, given the very long history of violence and constant danger that was so much more prevalent even twenty years ago, without even getting to the 60s and 70s where those murders often weren't even investigated and law enforcement often actively participated in violence towards the LGBT community.</quote> A quick bit of digging found this: https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021 Looks like the HRC has only been specifically tracking trans murders since 2013, so that wouldn't capture more historical data. It's likely that data doesn't actually exist, given that even this data is likely underreported even with strong efforts to ensure as many instances of anti-trans violence are identified as possible. That said, the data they provide indicates that the number averaged between 20 and 25 from 2015 to 2019. 2020 saw 44 such murders, 2021 has already seen 47, almost double the average of the previous 5 years. Two data points don't necessarily indicate a trend, and that may be partially explained by the uptick in domestic violence seen due to pandemic isolation over the last two years, but that's also coincided with increasingly aggressive anti-trans rhetoric leading up to the 2020 election (since restricting trans rights is apparently a major election platform), on which the right has doubled down since losing. It may not be as bad as when police were literally forming death squads to hunt down trans people (though we'll never know the actual figures involved in that), but that doesn't mean there isn't a deeply alarming trend that a whole lot of very bad people seem far too excited about. That shouldn't be ignored, and it certainly shouldn't be accepted just because it's "not as bad as it used to be." PeterPumpknhead posted... </cite> <quote>I dont its a coincidence that his public criticism of an already vulnerable group is leading to a real increase in violence against trans people</quote> It's fairly unlikely that Chapelle has had an appreciable impact on the uptick in violence. His comments are tone deaf and insensitive given how vulnerable their subject population is, and represent a broader culture of ignorance (voluntary or otherwise) of trans people's plight. but I wouldn't specifically blame him for violence. He's just part of the problem (for what he can and should be held accountable), not a root cause of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1

Poll of the Day > Seriously though (+) Yeah! (+)

Poll of the Day > Seriously though