Current Events > Kamala Harris is a bad Vice President.

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SK8T3R215 11/15/21 7:41:35 PM #1:	https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/politics/kamala-harris-frustrating-start-vice-president/index.html Snippets: Many in the vice president's circle fume that she's not being adequately prepared or positioned, and instead is being sidelined. The vice president herself has told several confidants she feels constrained in what she's able to do politically. And those around her remain wary of even hinting at future political ambitions, with Biden's team highly attuned to signs of disloyalty, particularly from the vice president. Few of the insiders who spoke with CNN think she's being well-prepared for whichever role it will be. Harris is struggling with a rocky relationship with some parts of the White House, while long-time supporters feel abandoned and see no coherent public sense of what she's done or been trying to do as vice president. Defenders and people who care for Harris are getting frantic. When they're annoyed, some pass around a recent Onion story mocking her lack of more substantive work, one with the headline, "White House Urges Kamala Harris To Sit At Computer All Day In Case Emails Come Through." When they're depressed, they bat down the Aaron Sorkin-style rumor that Biden might try to replace her by nominating her to a Supreme Court vacancy. That chatter has already reached top levels of the Biden orbit, according to one person who's heard it. She's perceived to be in such a weak position that top Democrats in and outside of Washington have begun to speculate privately, asking each other why the White House has allowed her to become so hobbled in the public consciousness, at least as they see it. But, with many sources speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the situation more frankly, they all tell roughly the same story: Harris' staff has repeatedly failed her and left her exposed, and family members have often had an informal say within her office. Even some who have been asked for advice lament Harris' overly cautious tendencies and staff problems, which have been a feature of every office she's held, from San Francisco district attorney to US Senate. As CNN has previously reported, Harris herself has said she didn't want to be assigned to manage the border, aware that it was a no-win political situation that would only sandbag her in the future. But Biden's team was annoyed that Harris fumbled answers about the border, including when she gave an awkward, laughing response about not visiting it during a spring interview with NBC's Lester Holt. Several Biden campaign aides spoke of putting "a blanket" around Harris after she was picked as the running mate last year, and advised against bringing on staff from her presidential campaign, though the final decisions around hires and structure were left at her discretion. That's left her with just a handful of current aides who knew her before she was vice president-elect, and they don't know her well. Feeding dissension internally, many suspect each other of putting their own career interests ahead of hers, or of performing to try to build their relationships with her on the fly. Damage control started quickly at least: https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936 Had to remake this because someone said the other title was "trolling". --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. <cite>SK8T3R215 posted [p:960034031] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/14/politics/kamala-harris-frustrating-start-vice-president/index.html Snippets: Many in the vice president's circle fume that she's not being adequately prepared or positioned, and instead is being sidelined. The vice president herself has told several confidants she feels constrained in what she's able to do politically. And those around her remain wary of even hinting at future political ambitions, with Biden's team highly attuned to signs of disloyalty, particularly from the vice president. Few of the insiders who spoke with CNN think she's being well-prepared for whichever role it will be. Harris is struggling with a rocky relationship with some parts of the White House, while long-time supporters feel abandoned and see no coherent public sense of what she's done or been trying to do as vice president. Defenders and people who care for Harris are getting frantic. When they're annoyed, some pass around a recent Onion story mocking her lack of more substantive work, one with the headline, "White House Urges Kamala Harris To Sit At Computer All Day In Case Emails Come Through." When they're depressed, they bat down the Aaron Sorkin-style rumor that Biden might try to replace her by nominating her to a Supreme Court vacancy. That chatter has already reached top levels of the Biden orbit, according to one person who's heard it. She's perceived to be in such a weak position that top Democrats in and outside of Washington have begun to speculate privately, asking each other why the White House has allowed her to become so hobbled in the public consciousness, at least as they see it. But, with many sources speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the situation more frankly, they all tell roughly the same story: Harris' staff has repeatedly failed her and left her exposed, and family members have often had an informal say within her office. Even some who have been asked for advice lament Harris' overly cautious tendencies and staff problems, which have been a feature of every office she's held, from San Francisco district attorney to US Senate. As CNN has previously reported, Harris herself has said she didn't want to be assigned to manage the border, aware that it was a no-win political situation that would only sandbag her in the future. But Biden's team was annoyed that Harris fumbled answers about the border, including when she gave an awkward, laughing response about not visiting it during a spring interview with NBC's Lester Holt. Several Biden campaign aides spoke of putting "a blanket" around Harris after she was picked as the running mate last year, and advised against bringing on staff from her presidential campaign, though the final decisions around hires and structure were left at her discretion. That's left her with just a handful of current aides who knew her before she was vice president-elect, and they don't know her well. Feeding dissension internally, many suspect each other of putting their own career interests ahead of hers, or of performing to try to build their relationships with her on the fly. Damage control started quickly at least: https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1460070063025831936 Had to remake this because someone said the other title was "trolling". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 11/15/21 7:43:22 PM #2:	Your other topic was fake news --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:960034073] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Your other topic was fake news </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MI4 REAL 11/15/21 7:43:39 PM #3:	She isn't fit to run a diner let alone vice president. --- "Er...well, y'know. You can't make an omelette without um...destroying a forest.....or something" -Black Mage <cite>MI4 REAL posted [p:960034079] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>She isn't fit to run a diner let alone vice president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/15/21 7:44:14 PM #4:	It's her or Trump in 2024. I'm voting Harris. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960034096] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>It's her or Trump in 2024. I'm voting Harris. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 11/15/21 7:44:40 PM #5:	I feel bad that she is a token --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:960034112] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>I feel bad that she is a token </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/15/21 7:46:17 PM #6:	Didn't we already have this thread? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:960034165] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Didn't we already have this thread? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheiky-Baby 11/15/21 7:47:44 PM #7:	I know the guy is dead, but can we nominate him instead? --- That wasn't a lobster that poisoned you, you swallowed your own venom. <cite>Sheiky-Baby posted [p:960034189] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>I know the guy is dead, but can we nominate him instead? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/15/21 7:53:54 PM #8:	Since you brought that Kamala up, language warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JJkAB8BqZg <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960034374] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Since you brought that Kamala up, language warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JJkAB8BqZg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/15/21 7:56:24 PM #9:	Sheiky-Baby posted... I know the guy is dead, but can we nominate him instead? This. Kamala > Kamala. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:960034437] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Sheiky-Baby posted... </cite> <quote>I know the guy is dead, but can we nominate him instead?</quote> This. Kamala > Kamala. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
au_gold 11/15/21 7:58:07 PM #10:	Shes so hot. --- Let me talk to your mother. Get your mother please. <cite>au_gold posted [p:960034494] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Shes so hot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 11/15/21 7:59:38 PM #11:	Did the other topic get modded for the misleading title --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:960034529] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Did the other topic get modded for the misleading title</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Dan_Haren 11/15/21 8:00:08 PM #12:	She's honestly not a likable person. Democrats have all the reason in the world to not put her in the limelight. <cite>The_Dan_Haren posted [p:960034546] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>She's honestly not a likable person. Democrats have all the reason in the world to not put her in the limelight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 11/15/21 8:02:28 PM #13:	FortuneCookie posted... It's her or Trump in 2024. I'm voting Harris. or Biden... --- I go on too many dates. But I can't make em stay. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:960034607] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>It's her or Trump in 2024. I'm voting Harris.</quote> or Biden... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KiwiTerraRizing 11/15/21 8:03:22 PM #14:	MI4 REAL posted... She isn't fit to run a diner let alone vice president. Nobody in DC could run a diner --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:960034632] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>MI4 REAL posted... </cite> <quote>She isn't fit to run a diner let alone vice president.</quote> Nobody in DC could run a diner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/15/21 8:11:41 PM #15:	Damn_Underscore posted... or Biden... He's not running again. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960034886] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>or Biden...</quote> He's not running again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 11/15/21 8:12:26 PM #16:	KiwiTerraRizing posted... Nobody in DC could run a diner Even the ones who live in DC and run a diner? --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://imgur.com/M8h2ATe https://imgur.com/6ezFwG1 <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:960034904] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>KiwiTerraRizing posted... </cite> <quote> Nobody in DC could run a diner</quote>Even the ones who live in DC and run a diner? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 11/15/21 8:13:25 PM #17:	Kamala/Buttigieg 2024 Calling it. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:960034940] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Kamala/Buttigieg 2024 Calling it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Dan_Haren 11/15/21 8:16:02 PM #18:	I'm sorry but thats not an inspiring ticket and it'll lose to Trump. <cite>The_Dan_Haren posted [p:960035010] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry but thats not an inspiring ticket and it'll lose to Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/15/21 8:19:13 PM #19:	iPhone_7 posted... Kamala/Buttigieg 2024 Calling it. You're sadly going to be right. I just don't understand Democrats sometimes. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:960035099] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted... </cite> <quote>Kamala/Buttigieg 2024 Calling it.</quote> You're sadly going to be right. I just don't understand Democrats sometimes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 11/15/21 8:21:19 PM #20:	VP is such a toothless position, that I don't even know if she's doing a good job or not. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:960035165] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>VP is such a toothless position, that I don't even know if she's doing a good job or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/15/21 8:32:38 PM #21:	Anteaterking posted... VP is such a toothless position, that I don't even know if she's doing a good job or not. Not for Dick Cheney, it wasn't. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960035467] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>VP is such a toothless position, that I don't even know if she's doing a good job or not.</quote> Not for Dick Cheney, it wasn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 11/15/21 8:56:29 PM #23:	FortuneCookie posted... He's not running again. Bidens already publicly said hes planning to run again. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:960036136] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>He's not running again.</quote> Bidens already publicly said hes planning to run again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 11/15/21 8:56:29 PM #24:	FortuneCookie posted... He's not running again. That was the rumor from 2020 I think but given that it hasn't been mentioned at all since then, there's really no way of knowing. --- I go on too many dates. But I can't make em stay. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:960036137] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>He's not running again.</quote> That was the rumor from 2020 I think but given that it hasn't been mentioned at all since then, there's really no way of knowing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/16/21 1:29:41 AM #25:	K181 posted... Bidens already publicly said hes planning to run again. For goodness sake, he'll be 82 years old. Is he really planning on holding office until he's 86? Or is he going to defeat Trump again, then step down at let the VP become president? Because, unless he's allowed to pick a new one, that means we're getting President Harris. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960042570] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted... </cite> <quote>Bidens already publicly said hes planning to run again.</quote> For goodness sake, he'll be 82 years old. Is he really planning on holding office until he's 86? Or is he going to defeat Trump again, then step down at let the VP become president? Because, unless he's allowed to pick a new one, that means we're getting President Harris. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 11/16/21 1:32:51 AM #26:	What about Pence? --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:960042606] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>What about Pence? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/16/21 1:34:22 AM #27:	At least Kamal Harris's presence will diversify the presidential landscape. She'll be the second Black president and the first female president. Even if her policies and her attitude suck, she'll still open new doors. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960042622] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>At least Kamal Harris's presence will diversify the presidential landscape. She'll be the second Black president and the first female president. Even if her policies and her attitude suck, she'll still open new doors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 11/16/21 1:34:31 AM #28:	She came in 3rd in her own state in the Primaries. If she was not Hillary's girl. Then she would not even be VP. No on wanted her but the Clintons . --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:960042624] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>She came in 3rd in her own state in the Primaries. If she was not Hillary's girl. Then she would not even be VP. No on wanted her but the Clintons . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 11/16/21 1:35:30 AM #29:	FortuneCookie posted... At least Kamal Harris's presence will diversify the presidential landscape. She'll be the second Black president and the first female president. Even if her policies and her attitude suck, she'll still open new doors. No she will not. Obama was the first black President and he went out of way to shit on black people. And Obama did that because he is weak. Harris dislikes black people it would be far worse with her. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:960042640] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>FortuneCookie posted... </cite> <quote>At least Kamal Harris's presence will diversify the presidential landscape. She'll be the second Black president and the first female president. Even if her policies and her attitude suck, she'll still open new doors.</quote> No she will not. Obama was the first black President and he went out of way to shit on black people. And Obama did that because he is weak. Harris dislikes black people it would be far worse with her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 11/16/21 1:38:02 AM #30:	cjsdowg posted... She came in 3rd in her own state in the Primaries. If she was not Hillary's girl. Then she would not even be VP. No on wanted her but the Clintons . Whether it be Hillary or Kamala, the first woman to become president is going to be an unlikable person. You gotta have an attitude if you want to succeed in a competitive, male-dominant field such as politics. Even if neither of them touch the presidency, the first woman president will be hated by the opposing party (let's face it, Republicans) and probably a third of her own party. cjsdowg posted... No she will not. Obama was the first black President and he went out of way to shit on black people. And Obama did that because he is weak. Harris dislikes black people it would be far worse with her. The police unions back both parties. That means the cops own America. (For now.) <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:960042677] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>She came in 3rd in her own state in the Primaries. If she was not Hillary's girl. Then she would not even be VP. No on wanted her but the Clintons .</quote> Whether it be Hillary or Kamala, the first woman to become president is going to be an unlikable person. You gotta have an attitude if you want to succeed in a competitive, male-dominant field such as politics. Even if neither of them touch the presidency, the first woman president will be hated by the opposing party (let's face it, Republicans) and probably a third of her own party. cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>No she will not. Obama was the first black President and he went out of way to shit on black people. And Obama did that because he is weak. Harris dislikes black people it would be far worse with her.</quote> The police unions back both parties. That means the cops own America. (For now.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dos_Pac 11/16/21 2:13:28 AM #31:	Sheiky-Baby posted... I know the guy is dead, but can we nominate him instead? Whenever anybody says Kamala Harris this is exactly who I think about. --- All hail King Woods! <cite>Dos_Pac posted [p:960043153] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Sheiky-Baby posted... </cite> <quote>I know the guy is dead, but can we nominate him instead? </quote> Whenever anybody says Kamala Harris this is exactly who I think about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Junior_AIN 11/16/21 2:14:50 AM #32:	She is. She's awful. --- + \| + https://marcoagj.wordpress.com/ + \| + \| \| \| \| https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/Marco_AGJ \| \| \| \| <cite>Junior_AIN posted [p:960043169] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>She is. She's awful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
indica 11/16/21 2:18:10 AM #33:	cjsdowg posted... No she will not. Obama was the first black President and he went out of way to shit on black people. And Obama did that because he is weak. Harris dislikes black people it would be far worse with her. cjsdowg posted... She came in 3rd in her own state in the Primaries. If she was not Hillary's girl. Then she would not even be VP. No on wanted her but the Clintons. Do you have sources for these statements so I can look at them in more depth? --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. <cite>indica posted [p:960043205] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>No she will not. Obama was the first black President and he went out of way to shit on black people. And Obama did that because he is weak. Harris dislikes black people it would be far worse with her.</quote> cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>She came in 3rd in her own state in the Primaries. If she was not Hillary's girl. Then she would not even be VP. No on wanted her but the Clintons.</quote> Do you have sources for these statements so I can look at them in more depth? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 11/16/21 2:23:23 AM #34:	indica posted... Do you have sources for these statements so I can look at them in more depth? Here is an example . https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/how-the-obama-administration-talks-to-black-america/276015/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2015/04/29/obama-white-house-baltimore-stephanie-rawlings-blake/26585143/ --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:960043258] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>indica posted... </cite> <quote> Do you have sources for these statements so I can look at them in more depth?</quote> Here is an example . https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/how-the-obama-administration-talks-to-black-america/276015/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2015/04/29/obama-white-house-baltimore-stephanie-rawlings-blake/26585143/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FurryPhilosifer 11/16/21 2:44:13 AM #35:	I've read that article twice and I can't figure out what the problem is. It's paragraph after paragraph of vague "people aren't pleased with her!" with barely any explanation as to why. --- Ghosts are cool. <cite>FurryPhilosifer posted [p:960043477] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>I've read that article twice and I can't figure out what the problem is. It's paragraph after paragraph of vague "people aren't pleased with her!" with barely any explanation as to why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brotrrwinner 11/16/21 3:01:48 AM #36:	Why is TC both racist and sexist? --- September 21st, 2008 Never forget <cite>brotrrwinner posted [p:960043685] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>Why is TC both racist and sexist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nexigrams 11/16/21 3:03:08 AM #37:	What's a good vice president? Dick Cheney lol? I mean, she's definitely a bad person with a history of sticking it to poor people and minorities in order to cultivate a "tough on crime" reputation, but the vice presidency is literally just stand there in the corner in case the president dies, that's it. --- https://imgur.com/SYiqIRC <cite>nexigrams posted [p:960043704] in Kamala Har... [t:79761498]...</cite> <quote>What's a good vice president? Dick Cheney lol? I mean, she's definitely a bad person with a history of sticking it to poor people and minorities in order to cultivate a "tough on crime" reputation, but the vice presidency is literally just stand there in the corner in case the president dies, that's it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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