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pionear
11/15/21 11:28:30 AM
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https://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-sesame-street-debuts-030002357.html

So does that mean there is already an 'Asian' Muppet Out there?
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Gaawa_chan
11/15/21 11:41:14 AM
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What does the existence of Asian Americans have to do with wokeness?

Edit:
Gordan and Susan were in Sesame Street from day 1, as was Mr. Hooper, so this alert that a minority character exists in Sesame Street seems to be over 50 years late.

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DevilSummoner1
11/15/21 11:50:56 AM
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how is this being woke

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Jen0125
11/15/21 12:08:21 PM
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Oh no they are race inclusive how woke

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Nade Duck
11/15/21 12:11:34 PM
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let's all say woke

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JOExHIGASHI
11/15/21 12:50:04 PM
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Why do the puppets have race at all? I thought the whole point of the puppets was that they had no race so any kid could like them.

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Jen0125
11/15/21 1:00:40 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Why do the puppets have race at all? I thought the whole point of the puppets was that they had no race so any kid could like them.

Should race cause a child to feel they shouldn't like a person or character?

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Lokarin
11/15/21 1:25:06 PM
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wait, how do you make a muppet look asian without being super racist..

*clicks link*

awwwwwwww, she's cute

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BlackScythe0
11/15/21 1:26:52 PM
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Is it a muppet or is it sesame street?
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rjsilverthorn
11/15/21 1:34:30 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Is it a muppet or is it sesame street?
It is a muppet on Sesame Street.
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Black_Crusher
11/15/21 1:36:27 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
Why do the puppets have race at all? I thought the whole point of the puppets was that they had no race so any kid could like them.
Yeah I thought that's why they made them orange and blue and shit.

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Zeus
11/15/21 1:40:18 PM
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DevilSummoner1 posted...
how is this being woke

Because:

JOExHIGASHI posted...
Why do the puppets have race at all? I thought the whole point of the puppets was that they had no race so any kid could like them.


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Zeus
11/15/21 1:43:05 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Is it a muppet or is it sesame street?

They're not mutually exclusive. Henson created Muppets for the show and, even if you didn't know that, you'd have to realize Kermit both appears on Sesame Street and headlines the Muppet Show.

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Fierce_Deity_08
11/15/21 3:00:48 PM
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This world (especially the U.S.) should be more like Sesame Street. They have more diversity and kindness than anywhere else.

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Zareth
11/15/21 3:33:16 PM
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I always thought the muppets were supposed to be non-human and race-less. This seems weird.

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adjl
11/15/21 3:38:33 PM
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Zareth posted...
I always thought the muppets were supposed to be non-human and race-less.

The ones on Sesame Street have generally been, mostly because Sesame Street has plenty of actual humans to fill human roles, but plenty of the ones on the Muppet Show are very clearly meant to be humans (Statler, Waldorf, and the Swedish Chef being the best-known recurring ones), and it's not uncommon to see hem racialized to some extent or another.

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Lokarin
11/15/21 3:39:31 PM
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What races are Burt and Ernie

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Gaawa_chan
11/15/21 4:14:27 PM
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Lokarin posted...
What races are Burt and Ernie
Presumably the same race as Trump.

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JOExHIGASHI
11/15/21 6:43:48 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Should race cause a child to feel they shouldn't like a person or character?
I worded it extremely poorly.

I mean children of all races should be able to identify with race-less puppets just fine so adding a race now just seems backwards.


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Metalsonic66
11/15/21 6:56:31 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
adding a race
Swedish chef is white

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Jen0125
11/15/21 7:15:22 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
I worded it extremely poorly.

I mean children of all races should be able to identify with race-less puppets just fine so adding a race now just seems backwards.

I can see what you're saying now but I think we've had enough research done regarding representation in media and how it effects children that maybe it was time for the format to change. Maybe it isn't beneficial for them to all be "race-less".

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Zeus
11/15/21 7:19:49 PM
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adjl posted...
The ones on Sesame Street have generally been, mostly because Sesame Street has plenty of actual humans to fill human roles, but plenty of the ones on the Muppet Show are very clearly meant to be humans (Statler, Waldorf, and the Swedish Chef being the best-known recurring ones), and it's not uncommon to see them racialized to some extent or another.

Swedish Chef has it right in the name, too >_>

Good thing you can't offend the Swedes, or the Muppets would be canceled (yet again)

Metalsonic66 posted...
Swedish chef is white

He was probably specifically referring to the intent of Sesame Street, where Swedish Chef doesn't appear.

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Fierce_Deity_08
11/15/21 7:24:52 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
Presumably the same race as Trump.
How can this apply to Bert? Hes yellow! I would say hes closer to being one of the Simpsons.

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Metalsonic66
11/15/21 7:26:32 PM
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Zeus posted...
He was probably specifically referring to the intent of Sesame Street, where Swedish Chef doesn't appear.
The intent? Or just the fact that most of the puppets are fuzzy animal creatures?

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Zeus
11/15/21 7:29:20 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
The intent? Or just the fact that most of the puppets are fuzzy animal creatures?

Bert and Ernie would like a word.

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Metalsonic66
11/15/21 7:31:47 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
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Zeus
11/15/21 10:36:45 PM
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Which comes back to the intent.

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Metalsonic66
11/15/21 10:55:17 PM
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Yes, but that was my question. Are they fuzzy animal creatures because it was meant as a metaphor for a colorblind society, or because that's cute and funny?

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Gaawa_chan
11/16/21 12:05:31 AM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
How can this apply to Bert? Hes yellow! I would say hes closer to being one of the Simpsons.
I was being sarcastic, but you do realize that there are sallow-skinned white people, right?

Some muppets are clearly coded as being part of a particular demographic. Some of them aren't. People need to grow the fuck up and get over it. I honestly think that people freaking out over shit this petty actually is proof that they've internalized some really stupid ideas they need to work through.

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LordVyreth
11/16/21 12:33:07 AM
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They introduced a bilingual muppet named Rosita like 30 years ago. Admittedly, she's a monster muppet, not a human muppet.
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Unbridled9
11/16/21 1:47:25 AM
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While I have no objection to them adding an asian puppet to the mix... I thought the Sesame street muppets were all, like, a wild assortment of various creatures and monsters with the most 'human' being Burt and Ernie and even they were very distinctly not human. I never watched the show but I'm confused as to why there's a puppet out there meant to represent a 'real' human right now.
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Metalsonic66
11/16/21 1:48:58 AM
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What about the Count

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Unbridled9
11/16/21 10:23:11 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
What about the Count

Is a purple-skinned vampire.
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Revelation34
11/16/21 10:25:36 AM
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zebatov
11/16/21 11:16:39 AM
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Are there even human characters in these shows?

JOExHIGASHI posted...
Why do the puppets have race at all? I thought the whole point of the puppets was that they had no race so any kid could like them.

Thats what I thought. Apparently some fully-grown adults here dont understand.

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JOExHIGASHI
11/16/21 11:50:23 AM
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zebatov posted...
Are there even human characters in these shows?
There are several adult humans. I don't know them all or what the current cast is though. But they frequently bring in children to talk with the puppets and they're usually diverse.

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adjl
11/16/21 12:25:39 PM
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Zeus posted...
Good thing you can't offend the Swedes, or the Muppets would be canceled (yet again)

I mean, the Muppet Show has plenty of examples of offensive depictions of other races, but almost the entire thing is up on D+. Some episodes have had certain sketches removed due to copyright issues, one episode is totally missing because of copyright, and another episode is missing because the guest star is a convicted rapist (which is fair), but nothing has actually been cancelled for being offensive. They've just stuck the "warning: racism lol" disclaimer at the front of somewhere on the order of 5 episodes (but not for the Swedish Chef).

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Zeus
11/16/21 5:16:08 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Yes, but that was my question. Are they fuzzy animal creatures because it was meant as a metaphor for a colorblind society, or because that's cute and funny?

I feel like that's a false mutual exclusive. The designs of the Muppets were clearly meant to be universal.

LordVyreth posted...
They introduced a bilingual muppet named Rosita like 30 years ago. Admittedly, she's a monster muppet, not a human muppet.

I don't think the name is an issue, even if you can read something of an intent with the fact she's also bilingual. If it was just a name, I think it would fit the original concept. However, it's still close enough.

zebatov posted...
Thats what I thought. Apparently some fully-grown adults here dont understand.

The new puppet/Muppet is designed to be explicitly Asian. His point was that the previous Sesame Muppets were intended to be universal.

And there's certainly a good reason to go for a more universal concept, given that any children can project their impressions on the universal designs.

adjl posted...
and another episode is missing because the guest star is a convicted rapist (which is fair),

Gee, who could that guest star be? >_>


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pionear
11/16/21 5:55:31 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
What does the existence of Asian Americans have to do with wokeness?

Edit:
Gordan and Susan were in Sesame Street from day 1, as was Mr. Hooper, so this alert that a minority character exists in Sesame Street seems to be over 50 years late.

1st Asian American 'Muppet'

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pionear
11/16/21 5:59:13 PM
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Zeus posted...
Gee, who could that guest star be? >_>



But I thought it was overturned and that's why he got out?
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pionear
11/16/21 6:04:59 PM
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DevilSummoner1 posted...
how is this being woke

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke
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Gaawa_chan
11/16/21 6:56:16 PM
#42:


pionear posted...
1st Asian American 'Muppet'
So muppets can't be korean american but can be white and swedish?

Anti-woke brigade needs to learn how to use facts and logic, it seems.

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Zeus
11/16/21 7:14:22 PM
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pionear posted...


But I thought it was overturned and that's why he got out?

But was the charge expunged?

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Revelation34
11/16/21 8:54:15 PM
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Zeus posted...
Gee, who could that guest star be? >_>


Harvey Weinstein was on Sesame Street?
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Revelation34
11/16/21 8:55:12 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...

So muppets can't be korean american but can be white and swedish?

Anti-woke brigade needs to learn how to use facts and logic, it seems.


So you're saying her name is actually Asian American?
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adjl
11/16/21 10:49:08 PM
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Zeus posted...
Gee, who could that guest star be? >_>

My mistake, upon further research, he was convicted for child porn, not rape. It was Chris Langham.

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Gaawa_chan
11/16/21 10:56:27 PM
#47:


Revelation34 posted...
So you're saying her name is actually Asian American?
God I love it when conservatives freak out over something happening with a given piece of media, and in so doing, show that they know absolute jack shit about it.

The Swedish Chef's name is Tom. Edit: No, wait, I remembered it wrong. His name is very long and difficult to pronounce, so his nickname is Tom. Yeah, that was it. Been a while.

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Blightzkrieg
11/16/21 11:15:26 PM
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It's about time the Muppets started targeting the yellow fever demographic

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Revelation34
11/16/21 11:31:48 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...

God I love it when conservatives freak out over something happening with a given piece of media, and in so doing, show that they know absolute jack shit about it. You guys need to stop manufacturing outrage for yourselves or you're going to all end up dying early from heart complications. You do not give a shit about the races of muppets. Stop pretending that you do.

The Swedish Chef's name is Tom. Edit: No, wait, I remembered it wrong. His name is very long and difficult to pronounce, so his nickname is Tom. Yeah, that was it. Been a while.
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I'm honestly surprised I was able to find the clip I was thinking of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxwI61FrK_w


It was sarcasm because I've never heard anything but his name as Swedish Chef.
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Lokarin
11/17/21 12:02:10 AM
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what's the diffrence between asian and asian american in this context?

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