Current Events > John Deere contemplating using strike-breakers O_O

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Cocytus
11/05/21 3:34:32 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/05/business/john-deere-strike/index.html

Thought that shit went out in the 20s or something.
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AlBundy33
11/05/21 3:36:01 PM
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Good. Im all for unions(I think every employer should be required to have one) but if you want to strike, be prepared when they replace you, I would 100% be a scab, you dont get paid when youre on strike, and I have bills that need paid

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DrizztLink
11/05/21 3:37:28 PM
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They already did.

They had accidents within like an hour because they used office workers to work machinery.

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Brutal_Deluxe
11/05/21 3:37:30 PM
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I like how there's no quote saying it's an option
just the article speculating
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Doe
11/05/21 3:39:00 PM
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AlBundy33 posted...
Good. Im all for unions(I think every employer should be required to have one) but if you want to strike, be prepared when they replace you, I would 100% be a scab, you dont get paid when youre on strike, and I have bills that need paid
$0.10 has been deposited into your account by the Freedom Foundation

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Axiom
11/05/21 3:41:01 PM
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They will do anything besides pay the working man a good wage
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TheGoldenEel
11/05/21 3:43:25 PM
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"We've exhausted all of our economic options," Howze said. "There's just no more to give. There's nothing to be gained by our employees continuing to stay out. We're still talking to the union to try to figure out how to get our employees back to work. But we have nothing more we can give economically."

lol if anyone believes this

anyway if they cant make an offer their employees want to come back for then they deserve to go out of businesstheir model is unsustainable, fuck em

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Sir Will
11/05/21 3:43:48 PM
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AlBundy33 posted...
Good. Im all for unions(I think every employer should be required to have one) but if you want to strike, be prepared when they replace you, I would 100% be a scab, you dont get paid when youre on strike, and I have bills that need paid
...yeah, those sentences makes sense together.

Axiom posted...
They will do anything besides pay the working man a good wage
Yep.


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DrizztLink
11/05/21 3:44:55 PM
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Sir Will posted...
...yeah, those sentences makes sense together.
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s0nicfan
11/05/21 3:45:50 PM
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Axiom posted...
They will do anything besides pay the working man a good wage

I don't know, the most recent proposal that the union rejected doesn't seem all that bad:
But he said that Deere cannot raise the economic terms of its offer any higher. The recently rejected tentative agreement included an immediate 10% raise, two other 5% raises later in the 6-year contract, an $8,500 signing bonus and three additional lump-sum payments each equal to 3% of their annual pay. The deal also would have returned cost of living adjustments which would have raised salaries even further to adjust for inflation. Such clauses used to be common in labor deals but have become less common in recent decades.

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UnholyMudcrab
11/05/21 3:47:54 PM
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AlBundy33 posted...
Im all for unions

AlBundy33 posted...
I would 100% be a scab

Shut the fuck up and get the fuck out
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Axiom
11/05/21 3:51:33 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I don't know, the most recent proposal that the union rejected doesn't seem all that bad:
That might have been good years ago but when they are going to be reporting a quarter of profit and production/maintenance still make an average of 18000 when you can make more at a literal grocery store for less work

Yeah fuck that. The workers have all the power right now and they need to use it
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Crazyman93
11/05/21 3:54:02 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
I don't know, the most recent proposal that the union rejected doesn't seem all that bad:
Well, apparently this strike wasn't organized by the union. The workers aren't happy with Deere or the UAW at the moment. I was reading a big part of the reason for the strike was a a crappy contract that the union approved that gave newer workers more money than long time employees. So it could be they don't trust the union to actually gove a fuck about their interests.

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E_S_M_Z
11/05/21 4:25:05 PM
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Cocytus posted...


Thought that shit went out in the 20s or something.

TWIST

It is the 20's.


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__aCEr__
11/05/21 4:30:36 PM
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What are the Pinkertons up to these days?

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ElatedVenusaur
11/05/21 4:35:48 PM
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https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1456457606583758871
Not sure how verifiable something like this is, but the sticking point on the workers side sounds like it boils down to the following:
John Deere is still reserving their right to cut pay yearly, they added in language which would "time-out" grievances filed after a year(apparently them dragging their feet on these is a big issue), and the deal they offered does nothing to address all the OT workers have been made to work.

So, although they've made a lot of progress on pay and pensions, they still have reservations. John Deere, of course, is going to portray the workers as unreasonable and selfish and many in the media will be happy to play along.

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E_S_M_Z
11/05/21 4:38:50 PM
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__aCEr__ posted...
What are the Pinkertons up to these days?

They're part of Securitas now, actually. They'll be thrilled.

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ScazarMeltex
11/05/21 4:39:06 PM
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Fuck scabs

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