Current Events > Target has bigger name tags to add your pronouns too..

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But HR was suppose to ask everyone what their pronouns were, if they had visual or hearing impairments and what other languages but they "ran out of time" so everyone has big blank name tags with just their name in little font compared to the tag.

People are starting to "decorate" their name tags with all the space to mock management for not personalizing it as they should have...

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My 15 yr old had a substitute teacher last week.
He raised his hand, she called his name and he said miss... before he could even say her name she stopped him and told him my pronouns are they & them..

I told him next time you have her to just tell her you rather go sit in the deans office for class and to get up and walk out. If the school has an issue with it they can call me..

shockthemonkey posted...

why are you trying to raise your kid to be a dickhead though?

He was trying to ask a question about the work she was giving. She doesn't need to bring that bullshit into the classroom

Lairen posted...

But HR was suppose to ask everyone what their pronouns were, if they had visual or hearing impairments and what other languages but they "ran out of time" so everyone has big blank name tags with just their name in little font compared to the tag.

People are starting to "decorate" their name tags with all the space to mock management for not personalizing it as they should have...

That's funny.

Kinda sad when you think about management's possible intentions though.

shockthemonkey posted...

Thats annoying that your store didnt put the effort into that, I got a couple buddies who are team leads or ETLs and they told me how excited some of their team members were to be able to put their pronouns and languages on their name tags.

I was annoyed that they insisted we use the new name tags yet they didnt get them personalized which was the point.

They get on me for stuff im suppose to do but they fuck things like this up.

Im going to put "awesome" on mine (with a sticker so i can rip it off if they raise hell) so it says "Travis Awesome" (because we have so much space on them)

If they say anything ill bitch "well since you didnt personalize them i did. Am i not awesome!?"

Im petty.

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He was trying to ask a question about the work she was giving. She doesn't need to bring that bullshit into the classroom

well at least he's 15 and probably has the faculties to see that you're antiquated and intolerant.

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You want to give your pronouns? Fine.

But if people ever try to force me to give mine, I'm going to be conflicted and likely will resist.

In premise, it's not the worst thing in the world. But in practice it seems to be a social conformity experiment where people try to prove they have power over you by insisting you change your behavior.

And I don't play that game.

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In my company we were encouraged to add our pronouns to our signature. But I don't know of anyone trans or enby that works with us anyway

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Fluttershy posted...

He was trying to ask a question about the work she was giving. She doesn't need to bring that bullshit into the classroom

well at least he's 15 and probably has the faculties to see that you're antiquated and intolerant.

Im going to put "awesome" on mine (with a sticker so i can rip it off if they raise hell) so it says "Travis Awesome" (because we have so much space on them)

are you familiar with no more heroes

The first and second game on wii. I beat them but its been a while....

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sauceje posted...

In my company we were encouraged to add our pronouns to our signature. But I don't know of anyone trans or enby that works with us anyway

Yeah, I'm not even convinced most trans people care. It feels more like mandatory virtue signaling which really concerns me.

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Another coworker always had "10+ YEARS AT TARGET" on his old name tag but it barely fit. He put it on the new name tag and there was so much space it looked very normal.

This is just referencing how much space there is on em.

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Can't wait for this preferred pronouns shit to go the way of the dodo...

LeadPipeCinche posted...

My 15 yr old had a substitute teacher last week.
He raised his hand, she called his name and he said miss... before he could even say her name she stopped him and told him my pronouns are they & them..

I told him next time you have her to just tell her you rather go sit in the deans office for class and to get up and walk out. If the school has an issue with it they can call me..

so what should he have said? They followed by her name?

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This is them. This person covered their name. Theyre that small on em.

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LeadPipeCinche posted...

He was trying to ask a question about the work she was giving. She doesn't need to bring that bullshit into the classroom

youre expecting shockthemonkey to understand real life

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LeadPipeCinche posted...

and he said miss... before he could even say her name she stopped him and told him my pronouns are they & them..

Ok, what's the honorific (miss/mister) for "they"?

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Theres so much space before your name i could add:

And you will know my name is
Travis when I lay my vengeance
upon you!


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LeadPipeCinche posted...

He was trying to ask a question about the work she was giving. She doesn't need to bring that bullshit into the classroom

I see it no different than correcting someone if they pronounce your name wrong.

You were called something that was incorrect. You corrected them. That should be the end of the interaction.

Also, I would assume if the teacher is that adamant about it, they should have introduced themselves to the class beforehand. Since it was a sub, I would guess they said something along the lines of "Hello, my name is _____ and I'll be your substitute teacher today."

It's then on the kids to call them by that name.

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joe40001 posted...

In premise, it's not the worst thing in the world. But in practice it seems to be a social conformity experiment where people try to prove they have power over you by insisting you change your behavior.

And I don't play that game.

Since birth, people have been insisting you change your behavior.

Or else you would still be shitting your pants and drinking from a tit.

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Crono99 posted...

Apparently, it's Mx (pronounced mix)

Like Mxyzptlk?

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I sent my supervisor this concept to see if HR would approve it.

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Yeah I just think there's an awful lot of real estate that's going unused on that. That's true of most nametags, now that I think on it.

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LeadPipeCinche posted...

He was trying to ask a question about the work she was giving. She doesn't need to bring that bullshit into the classroom

What bull shit? It seemed like a rather quick exchange (oh ok, my bad. Anyway I had a question about). Youre worried about him not getting his question answered (which Im sure was quickly answered simply seconds after that non issue), but then you want him to skip the entire class and just go sit in the deans office? Youre not worried about his education in this case at all so dont try and play that card lol.

if he had pronounced their name wrong and they corrected him before answering the question would you demand he go sit in the principals office instead? What makes this case different?

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I was 50/50 on the name tags but im pissed that they fucked them up. Either just dont bother or do them right. We got the worst of both worlds.

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LeadPipeCinche posted...

My 15 yr old had a substitute teacher last week.
He raised his hand, she called his name and he said miss... before he could even say her name she stopped him and told him my pronouns are they & them..

I told him next time you have her to just tell her you rather go sit in the deans office for class and to get up and walk out. If the school has an issue with it they can call me..

The world is gonna be a better place when people with intolerant attitudes start to lose influence due to dying off.

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That story didnt make sense. The teacher would have already introduced themselves and he would have just called them by that name. It wasnt a situation to use pronouns and they would have said them on introduction if it was such a big deal.

Yeah i know you made it up.

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Lairen posted...

That story didnt make sense. The teacher would have already introduced themselves and he would have just called them by that name. It wasnt a situation to use pronouns and they would have said them on introduction if it was such a big deal.

Yeah i know you made it up.

I was gonna say he forgot the part where his child got on his desk and recited Jordan Peterson quotes.

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joe40001 posted...

You want to give your pronouns? Fine.

But if people ever try to force me to give mine, I'm going to be conflicted and likely will resist.

In premise, it's not the worst thing in the world. But in practice it seems to be a social conformity experiment where people try to prove they have power over you by insisting you change your behavior.

And I don't play that game.

No, you jaded asshole, they're just a way to be inclusive and help people feel more comfortable.

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Tbh its just easier to call anyone whatever pronouns they want. Its a little awkward initially cause im not use to people announcing it but after that its normal so whatever.

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Lairen posted...

Tbh its just easier to call anyone whatever pronouns they want. Its a little awkward initially cause im not use to people announcing it but after that its normal so whatever.

Yeah it's new, awkward, and clumsy at first, but you get used to it, it's completely optional, and it helps people feel okay.

The people who cry over it are just big ole babies

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This is a good learning experience for me. I can and should have phrased my statement more judiciously.

I am pro creating environments where behavior such as expressing pronouns feels safe, all people including trans should feel accepted and welcome as people.

I am against policies requiring pronouns. Mandating behavior like that goes into authoritarianism which I, as a principle, am strongly against.

Reasonable people are welcome to disagree about this interpretation and principle. I am open to hearing civil pushback. Any uncivil pushback will be disregarded.

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Revnir posted...

It goes deeper than that. A lot of people have a huge psychological barrier that comes up when they feel they are being told what to do by society.

WTF are you talking about.

This is basically meeting someone who introduces them as Joseph, and you insisted on calling them John.

It's not "society" forcing something on you. It's literally just doing something that someone kindly asked you to do.

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I like how every time joebunchofnumbers comes back from purg he makes a topic about how he's better and won't do his usual schtick, then immediately proceeds with his usual schtick.

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joe40001 posted...

This is a good learning experience for me. I can and should have phrased my statement more judiciously.

I am pro creating environments where behavior such as expressing pronouns feels safe, all people including trans should feel accepted and welcome as people.

I am against policies requiring pronouns. Mandating behavior like that goes into authoritarianism which I, as a principle, am strongly against.

Reasonable people are welcome to disagree about this interpretation and principle. I am open to hearing civil pushback. Any uncivil pushback will be disregarded.

I'm 43 years old, and have never been a situation where identifying my pronouns was a requirement.

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M_Live posted...

Do you identify as male, female, or somewhere on the gender spectrum? Congratulations, you have pronouns. You always have, too.

Why do I need to announce my preferred pronouns when introducing myself, when for 99.5% of the population, our pronouns are the same as they ever were?