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LNSS
11/01/21 12:10:23 PM
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Are negative Eternals reviews racist?


https://twitter.com/wakknda/status/1455187936606138368?s=20

https://twitter.com/DariusB44/status/1454885210378678279?s=20

What do YOU think?

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I4NRulez
11/01/21 12:12:44 PM
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To be fair the only time I've seen anyone complain about forced diversity is from racists.

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Solar_Crimson
11/01/21 12:17:25 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
To be fair the only time I've seen anyone complain about forced diversity is from racists.
This. That "woke" nonsense, too.

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s0nicfan
11/01/21 12:19:18 PM
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People really need to stop pretending that a movie doing poorly is due to bigotry. They keep throwing that out there as a reason and it keeps not making a difference because everyone can tell they're full of shit.

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masterpug53
11/01/21 12:19:52 PM
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I'm afraid I can't take seriously any criticism that uses 'woke' unironically.

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HagenEx
11/01/21 12:20:33 PM
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It looks like trash, honestly.

I think from now on, the MCU is gonna be that. A good movie, then a bad one or two, then a good one or two, rinse and repeat forever.

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IShall_Run_Amok
11/01/21 12:21:21 PM
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"wtf I love critics now" - ForcedDiversityH8erOKSign420

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skermac
11/01/21 12:22:00 PM
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I didnt see it but what if its actually bad?

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Solar_Crimson
11/01/21 12:22:46 PM
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skermac posted...
I didnt see it but what if its actually bad?
If it's bad, it's bad, but they're making it sound like "forced diversity" is the reason it's bad.

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Xavier_On_High
11/01/21 12:22:58 PM
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It's not racist to say it's a bad movie. But reviewers crying about "diversity" are probably racist.

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ElatedVenusaur
11/01/21 12:25:28 PM
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That review is pretty gross. That section of it, at least, isn't making any points, it's just some dude mad that not all the Eternals are white or abled or whatever.

Also it's well-known that MCU flicks are very carefully curated by the producers and suits, so going hard at Chloe Zhao seems like the wrong tack to take here.

Plus, the concept is a lot to swallow, particularly when paired with what just happened in the MCU's story. Seemed like it was doomed from the start.

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Hairsniffer261
11/01/21 12:37:56 PM
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I don't see what else it could be.
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Brutal_Deluxe
11/01/21 12:38:43 PM
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The irony is good
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EmbraceOfDeath
11/01/21 12:41:32 PM
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No, most critics are left-leaning. If they're the ones pointing this stuff out rather than user reviews, then that's pretty damning.

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codey
11/01/21 12:43:04 PM
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Not liking the movie is totally fine, but the example you used is focusing on "wokeness" and "forced diversity" so I'd definitely say there's racism at play there.

Most actual reviewers aren't those type of people, however, and I'd say they're probably focusing more on the actual merits of the movie.

Personally I'm excited to see it. If anything it looks interesting and like it might be a break from the typical marvel formula.

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What_
11/01/21 12:45:06 PM
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Who cares
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Hairsniffer261
11/01/21 12:45:31 PM
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I do.
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CalosiaTana
11/01/21 12:46:37 PM
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Or maybe everyone is just fed up of marvel

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Zodd3224
11/01/21 12:51:09 PM
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I haven't met a person yet that uses the terms woke and virtue signaling in derogatory terms that isn't a piece of shit

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Teh_Dr_Phil
11/01/21 12:51:53 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
People really need to stop pretending that a movie doing poorly is due to bigotry. They keep throwing that out there as a reason and it keeps not making a difference because everyone can tell they're full of shit.
imagine phoning a post like this in after reading the first tweet lol

im sure there are legitimate criticisms of the movie but reviews that one in the first tweet are far more common than they should be

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
11/01/21 12:53:50 PM
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It could be the movie is just bad, honestly it has been the MCU movie with the least impressive trailers, and premise.

This is not due to diversity or any other bullshit, it just looks like a bad movie no one cares about.

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Solution_45
11/01/21 1:02:50 PM
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Questionmarktarius
11/01/21 1:08:28 PM
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Ghostbusters Gambit all over again, huh?
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DUKLegend
11/01/21 1:17:17 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
People really need to stop pretending that a movie doing poorly is due to bigotry. They keep throwing that out there as a reason and it keeps not making a difference because everyone can tell they're full of shit.

Pretty much this. It's why entertainment media embraces woke culture. It becomes a human shield for them to sell bad shit.
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Prestoff
11/01/21 1:22:14 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
I haven't met a person yet that uses the terms woke and virtue signaling in derogatory terms that isn't a piece of shit

I don't even know any of my friends who uses that terms in real life, even my right leaning conservative friends... but I guess that is because I choose my friends wisely.

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codey
11/01/21 1:22:20 PM
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DUKLegend posted...
Pretty much this. It's why entertainment media embraces woke culture. It becomes a human shield for them to sell bad shit.

It's like you didn't even read the review posted.

No one is saying all criticisms against the movie come from a bigoted place, but when they're specifically calling wokeness and forced diversity that's a big clue that it is.

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SSJPurple
11/01/21 1:23:01 PM
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Idk, maybe the movie is just bad? Just because people didnt like something that happens to have diversity doesnt mean thats why its bad.

I have no doubt some people are just salty because theyre alt right idiots however not all critisism equates to racism.

Example being if somebody doesnt like Kanye. If you dont like him because hes black yeah thats racistbut if you dont like him because hes an arrogant, ignorant idiot who thinks slavery sounded like a choicethats not racist.

Reasoning matters. This should go without saying but apparently people forgot that you can critique things and not be racist.

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Zodd3224
11/01/21 1:24:15 PM
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Prestoff posted...
I don't even know any of my friends who uses that terms in real life, even my right leaning conservative friends... but I guess that is because I choose my friends wisely.

Mostly referring to people online. Also applies to people who put "free thinker" in their profiles.

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Zodd3224
11/01/21 1:24:49 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Idk, maybe the movie is just bad? Just because people didnt like something that happens to have diversity doesnt mean thats why its bad.

I have no doubt some people are just salty because theyre alt right idiots however not all critisism equates to racism.

Example being if somebody doesnt like Kanye. If you dont like him because hes black yeah thats racistbut if you dont like him because hes an arrogant, ignorant idiot who thinks slavery sounded like a choicethats not racist.

Reasoning matters. This should go without saying but apparently people forgot that you can critique things and not be racist.

codey posted...
It's like you didn't even read the review posted.

No one is saying all criticisms against the movie come from a bigoted place, but when they're specifically calling wokeness and forced diversity that's a big clue that it is.


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SSJPurple
11/01/21 1:32:01 PM
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@Zodd3224 I guess you missed this part of my post

SSJPurple posted...
I have no doubt some people are just salty because theyre alt right idiots however not all critisism equates to racism.


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Fony
11/01/21 1:33:49 PM
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Yea, some of the reviews are defnitely showing their problem with "diversity". It's so dumb because the movie would be equally terrbile with an all white cast.

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ElatedVenusaur
11/01/21 1:47:40 PM
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Fony posted...
Yea, some of the reviews are defnitely showing their problem with "diversity". It's so dumb because the movie would be equally terrbile with an all white cast.
Yeah, it's funny here because it seems there are so many valid reasons why this isn't a very good film, but the blurb in the OP is grousing about diversity and woke culture rather than anything relevant.

And the over-the-top suggestion that Chloe Zhao should be stripped of the awards she won for a completely different film because this one isn't good. She could well be to blame, but given what we know about how MCU flicks are made, it's not anymore likely than any other explanation.

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RustyFerret
11/01/21 1:48:47 PM
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This is Ghostbusters 2016 all over again.
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Fony
11/01/21 1:49:32 PM
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ElatedVenusaur posted...
Yeah, it's funny here because it seems there are so many valid reasons why this isn't a very good film, but the blurb in the OP is grousing about diversity and woke culture rather than anything relevant.

And the over-the-top suggestion that Chloe Zhao should be stripped of the awards she won for a completely different film because this one isn't good. She could well be to blame, but given what we know about how MCU flicks are made, it's not anymore likely than any other explanation.

TBH, I didn't think that was a real review at first. It seemed like a rant that The Admiral would write on CE.

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Zodd3224
11/01/21 1:54:22 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
@Zodd3224 I guess you missed this part of my post

I didnt miss it. This topic is about the two tweets in the OP. Your "not all criticism is racism" comment is irrelevant, because this isn't about all criticism. It's about the specific criticisms mentioned in the tweets in the OP.

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averagejoel
11/01/21 1:56:41 PM
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LeperMessiahXX
11/01/21 1:57:52 PM
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If your reason to hate something is forced diversity, then yeah the reviewers are the problem. I'm not saying it should get praised for being diverse, but that's your big takeaway from watching it and the most pushed reason why it's a bad movie, what else is there to say? Eternals maybe a bad movie, but give valid reasons for it.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
11/01/21 2:18:15 PM
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If the cast was all white the movie would still suck, the plot and premise just isnt interesting. I do not know any Marvel fans who even read or like The Eternals.

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Ivynn
11/01/21 2:21:25 PM
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Eternals was always an odd premise to make a movie about, dunno why Kevin Feige pushed for it so hard tbh

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Zodd3224
11/01/21 2:23:31 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Eternals was always an odd premise to make a movie about, dunno why Kevin Feige pushed for it so hard tbh

I can't bring myself to care about Marvel after Endgame. WandaVision and Loki were decent because they were different.

Only Marvel I'm interested in is X-Men. Curious to see what Marvel does with them.

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Fony
11/01/21 2:27:42 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Eternals was always an odd premise to make a movie about, dunno why Kevin Feige pushed for it so hard tbh

as I said in another topic:

The movie just sucks and the heroes look like the cast of the Magic School Bus.

The Eternals were always lame in comics and too weak to carry a story, they're literally plot devices for various X-Men and Fantastuc Four stories. The space weirdos team that should be getting films is the Inhumans or the Starjammers.

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AsucaHayashi
11/01/21 2:32:41 PM
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damn... have we finally reached a point where you DON'T get points for clearing an sjw's wet dream of a hollywood-approved list?



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B18Champ
11/01/21 2:33:36 PM
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Nomadland was a terrible movie. Not sure why people thought the director would make a terrific Marvel movie.
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Ivynn
11/01/21 2:33:59 PM
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Zodd3224 posted...
I can't bring myself to care about Marvel after Endgame. WandaVision and Loki were decent because they were different.

Only Marvel I'm interested in is X-Men. Curious to see what Marvel does with them.

Same if I'm honest, Marvel movies aren't really hype for me anymore. I just wanna see what they do with X-Men and Fantastic Four. I think the only Marvel movies I'm really looking forward to are Dr. Strange 2 and Spider-man: NWH.

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Antifar
11/01/21 2:34:02 PM
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Disney/Marvel Fandom is going to steamroller right over any sort of attempt to view movies through a critical lens.

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Zodd3224
11/01/21 2:36:48 PM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
damn... have we finally reached a point where you DON'T get points for clearing an sjw's wet dream of a hollywood-approved list?


Bet you've been waiting a while to post this.

Shame it's irrelevant to the topic.

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Zodd3224
11/01/21 2:40:09 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Same if I'm honest, Marvel movies aren't really hype for me anymore. I just wanna see what they do with X-Men and Fantastic Four. I think the only Marvel movies I'm really looking forward to are Dr. Strange 2 and Spider-man: NWH.

Never thought I would say this, but after watching Snydercut JL, then going back and watching the extended BvS, I'm actually pretty hype for upcoming Flash movie.

The Batman, Sandman, Black Atom all look interesting too. DC is on the rise.

Marvel... meh at this point. They shot their load already with Endgame.

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Raikuro
11/01/21 2:46:20 PM
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Not commenting on Eternals specifically, but why exactly can't a character just happen to be disabled or gay or whatever without it being some huge plot point. Does it always need to "add value"? If it's not a huge focus of the story, people seem to complain it's just for "woke" points, or shallow "crumbs" that are not trying hard enough, pleasing neither side.
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brestugo
11/01/21 3:25:18 PM
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Fony posted...
as I said in another topic:

The Eternals were always lame in comics and too weak to carry a story, they're literally plot devices for various X-Men and Fantastic Four stories. The space weirdos team that should be getting films is the Inhumans or the Starjammers.

This is pretty much spot on. They were created by Jack Kirby as a super team that they could use to introduce a "galactic" element when necessary.

I haven't seen the movie but IIRC from the comics for an Eternals story to work, you needed someone like Thor, Silver Surfer, The Fantastic Four, or The Avengers involved. The Eternals themselves are too abstract as a group or concept to carry a story on their own.

Sounds like this is still true.


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Teh_Dr_Phil
11/01/21 11:11:27 PM
#50:


AsucaHayashi posted...
damn... have we finally reached a point where you DON'T get points for clearing an sjw's wet dream of a hollywood-approved list?
Dunno man. Couldnt tell you because SJWs arent a thing that exists.

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