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cjsdowg 10/24/21 10:34:37 AM #51:	Mr Hangman posted... There's no interpretation of it as rape that doesn't somehow lend credence to the idea of magic tarot readings. Who's even to say if he did stack the deck that that's not just as psychicly valid as if he shuffled the deck? How you shuffle can cause more or less predictable arrangements of cards. Are some methods of shuffling more cosmicly pure than others? Stop defending rape. My god. --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:959339363] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted... </cite> <quote>There's no interpretation of it as rape that doesn't somehow lend credence to the idea of magic tarot readings. Who's even to say if he did stack the deck that that's not just as psychicly valid as if he shuffled the deck? How you shuffle can cause more or less predictable arrangements of cards. Are some methods of shuffling more cosmicly pure than others?</quote> Stop defending rape. My god. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 10/24/21 10:37:27 AM #52:	fcie909x108c posted... It's not rape because she's too stupid to consent? I'm saying for it to be rape that you'd need to argue her belief in the supernatural makes her too mentally deficient to consent. <cite>Nemu posted [p:959339415] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>fcie909x108c posted... </cite> <quote>It's not rape because she's too stupid to consent?</quote>I'm saying for it to be rape that you'd need to argue her belief in the supernatural makes her too mentally deficient to consent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/24/21 10:38:52 AM #53:	Nemu posted... I'm saying for it to be rape that you'd need to argue her belief in the supernatural makes her too mentally deficient to consent. Did he trick her or not, using the movies logic . --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:959339455] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted... </cite> <quote>I'm saying for it to be rape that you'd need to argue her belief in the supernatural makes her too mentally deficient to consent.</quote> Did he trick her or not, using the movies logic . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fcie909x108c 10/24/21 10:42:44 AM #55:	Nemu posted... I'm saying for it to be rape that you'd need to argue her belief in the supernatural makes her too mentally deficient to consent. Believing her powers are real makes her mentally deficient which means she's stupid which means she's too stupid to consent. This is what you are saying. You realize that even with that premise you're still agreeing that it's rape then, correct? <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959339534] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted...</cite> <quote> I'm saying for it to be rape that you'd need to argue her belief in the supernatural makes her too mentally deficient to consent. </quote> Believing her powers are real makes her mentally deficient which means she's stupid which means she's too stupid to consent. This is what you are saying. You realize that even with that premise you're still agreeing that it's rape then, correct?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 10/24/21 10:44:20 AM #56:	cjsdowg posted... Did he trick her or not, using the movies logic . The issue is not that he tricked her. The issue is that her criteria for having sex with someone is not something which can constitute rape by deception. Bar none, it is an absolutely shitty thing to do, but it falls under the same area of lying about your martial status, lying about your astrological sign, lying about your intentions ("I'm going to start a family with you"), etc. Those are all ultimately surface level things that do not matter in the case of having sex. They make someone a scumbag, but not a rapist. <cite>Nemu posted [p:959339571] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>Did he trick her or not, using the movies logic . </quote>The issue is not that he tricked her. The issue is that her criteria for having sex with someone is not something which can constitute rape by deception. Bar none, it is an absolutely shitty thing to do, but it falls under the same area of lying about your martial status, lying about your astrological sign, lying about your intentions ("I'm going to start a family with you"), etc. Those are all ultimately surface level things that do not matter in the case of having sex. They make someone a scumbag, but not a rapist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 10/24/21 10:45:01 AM #57:	Southernfatman posted... He also tricked a supposed psychic tarot reader that they were destined to be lovers by stacking the deck. That one is on Solitaire. If you're going to let superstition determine your partner, you can't fault someone else for playing the game as well. (And Bond did confess.) <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:959339588] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite> <quote>He also tricked a supposed psychic tarot reader that they were destined to be lovers by stacking the deck.</quote> That one is on Solitaire. If you're going to let superstition determine your partner, you can't fault someone else for playing the game as well. (And Bond did confess.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 10/24/21 10:45:40 AM #58:	Mr Hangman posted... Are you able to comprehend a difference between "defending rape" and disagreement about whether a particular situation constitutes rape? These types aren't capable of that. They made up their minds to begin with and will do anything to twist reality to fit their initial belief. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:959339596] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted... </cite> <quote>Are you able to comprehend a difference between "defending rape" and disagreement about whether a particular situation constitutes rape?</quote>These types aren't capable of that. They made up their minds to begin with and will do anything to twist reality to fit their initial belief. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 10:46:26 AM #59:	Nemu posted... The issue is not that he tricked her. The issue is that her criteria for having sex with someone is not something which can constitute rape by deception. Bar none, it is an absolutely shitty thing to do, but it falls under the same area of lying about your martial status, lying about your astrological sign, lying about your intentions ("I'm going to start a family with you"), etc. Those are all ultimately surface level things that do not matter in the case of having sex. They make someone a scumbag, but not a rapist. Question: if Setzer had flipped a double face coin after making the sex bet with Celes, that wouldn't be rape? <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959339606] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted...</cite> <quote> The issue is not that he tricked her. The issue is that her criteria for having sex with someone is not something which can constitute rape by deception. Bar none, it is an absolutely shitty thing to do, but it falls under the same area of lying about your martial status, lying about your astrological sign, lying about your intentions ("I'm going to start a family with you"), etc. Those are all ultimately surface level things that do not matter in the case of having sex. They make someone a scumbag, but not a rapist. </quote> Question: if Setzer had flipped a double face coin after making the sex bet with Celes, that wouldn't be rape?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 10/24/21 10:47:13 AM #60:	I mean, he also straight up forces himself on a lesbian that eventually relents. That's straight up open sexual asault --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:959339618] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>I mean, he also straight up forces himself on a lesbian that eventually relents. That's straight up open sexual asault </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 10:50:08 AM #61:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... These types aren't capable of that. They made up their minds to begin with and will do anything to twist reality to fit their initial belief. "She said yes. She was very drunk at the time, but she said yes. That's not rape." "Yeah you're right that's not rape people made up their minds to begin with and will do anything to twist reality to fit their initial belief." <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959339677] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted...</cite> <quote> These types aren't capable of that. They made up their minds to begin with and will do anything to twist reality to fit their initial belief. </quote> "She said yes. She was very drunk at the time, but she said yes. That's not rape." "Yeah you're right that's not rape people made up their minds to begin with and will do anything to twist reality to fit their initial belief."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 10/24/21 10:50:40 AM #62:	fcie909x108c posted... Question: if Setzer had flipped a double face coin after making the sex bet with Celes, that wouldn't be rape? If it were possible to legally bind someone into having sex with you via a bet or said bet will be enforced by illegal force, yes. If it's just a friendly bet that one could back out of without repercussions (excluding social repercussions), it's ultimately again just a surface level thing akin to foreplay. <cite>Nemu posted [p:959339685] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>fcie909x108c posted... </cite> <quote>Question: if Setzer had flipped a double face coin after making the sex bet with Celes, that wouldn't be rape?</quote>If it were possible to legally bind someone into having sex with you via a bet or said bet will be enforced by illegal force, yes. If it's just a friendly bet that one could back out of without repercussions (excluding social repercussions), it's ultimately again just a surface level thing akin to foreplay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 10:51:58 AM #63:	Nemu posted... If it were possible to legally bind someone into having sex with you via a bet or said bet will be enforced by illegal force, yes. If it's just a friendly bet that one could back out of without repercussions (excluding social repercussions), it's ultimately again just a surface level thing akin to foreplay. The scene involved Celes gets the airship, or she ends up becoming his sex slave. That isn't legally binding, but it's pretty damn desperate for anything but sex. <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959339709] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Nemu posted...</cite> <quote> If it were possible to legally bind someone into having sex with you via a bet or said bet will be enforced by illegal force, yes. If it's just a friendly bet that one could back out of without repercussions (excluding social repercussions), it's ultimately again just a surface level thing akin to foreplay. </quote> The scene involved Celes gets the airship, or she ends up becoming his sex slave. That isn't legally binding, but it's pretty damn desperate for anything but sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 10/24/21 11:24:42 AM #65:	TBF this was flat out rape. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:959340331] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>TBF this was flat out rape. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
qqq 10/24/21 11:28:32 AM #66:	spikethedevil posted... FFS at the people defending it. Literally this and Bond tricked her into giving consent by using her belief against her its rape. Lol nope --- How many special people change...How many lives are living strange...where were you while we were getting high? <cite>qqq posted [p:959340398] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>FFS at the people defending it. Literally this and Bond tricked her into giving consent by using her belief against her its rape.</quote>Lol nope </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 10/24/21 11:31:15 AM #67:	Great counter argument mr 1 active post. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:959340455] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Great counter argument mr 1 active post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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B18Champ 10/24/21 12:13:17 PM #69:	Sean Connery was definitely creepy with women in his Bond films. No doubt about it. <cite>B18Champ posted [p:959341384] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Sean Connery was definitely creepy with women in his Bond films. No doubt about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 10/24/21 12:18:57 PM #71:	This is absolutely insane and that is not how tarot cards work lmfao. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:959341511] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>This is absolutely insane and that is not how tarot cards work lmfao. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DogOfPeace 10/24/21 12:20:15 PM #72:	Conflict posted... So y'all just gonna skip over rikutothemighty's yikes ass posts itt? post #? --- Woof! <cite>DogOfPeace posted [p:959341546] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>So y'all just gonna skip over rikutothemighty's yikes ass posts itt?</quote> post #? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ilishe 10/24/21 12:23:53 PM #74:	The things you people argue over --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:959341644] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>The things you people argue over </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 10/24/21 12:24:52 PM #75:	Let me be perfectly clear--It's literally impossible to stack a tarot deck in any way in which it would imply the reader's soulmate is the person being read. If the reader were to reach that conclusion, it would require them to make wild inferences about things that Tarot simply doesn't imply by nature. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:959341666] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Let me be perfectly clear--It's literally impossible to stack a tarot deck in any way in which it would imply the reader's soulmate is the person being read. If the reader were to reach that conclusion, it would require them to make wild inferences about things that Tarot simply doesn't imply by nature. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 10/24/21 12:27:06 PM #76:	Pogo_Marimo posted... Let me be perfectly clear--It's literally impossible to stack a tarot deck in any way in which it would imply the reader's soulmate is the person being read. If the reader were to reach that conclusion, it would require them to make wild inferences about things that Tarot simply doesn't imply by nature. In the context of the movie and in the JB universe that's how it worked though. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:959341706] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Pogo_Marimo posted... </cite> <quote>Let me be perfectly clear--It's literally impossible to stack a tarot deck in any way in which it would imply the reader's soulmate is the person being read. If the reader were to reach that conclusion, it would require them to make wild inferences about things that Tarot simply doesn't imply by nature.</quote> In the context of the movie and in the JB universe that's how it worked though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 10/24/21 12:28:34 PM #77:	Yeah but the people complaining about it dont have a leg to stand on mostly. Theres something to say about classic courtship & male/female values (across all cultures) but more importantly.... Womens rights and how these old films cross the line, and how we can use that to recognize social injustices being committed today. They say hindsight is 20/20 for reason. Maybe this new era of Hollywood combined with his Social Media generation is churning out these complaints? Because while of course there is a point (they stopped making movies like that.........) (duh) James Bond was pretty tame for its day. No? Pretty typical too. I think it also had a lot of strong females. But yeah. This got left behind in 80s man. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:959341743] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Yeah but the people complaining about it dont have a leg to stand on mostly. Theres something to say about classic courtship & male/female values (across all cultures) but more importantly.... Womens rights and how these old films cross the line, and how we can use that to recognize social injustices being committed today. They say hindsight is 20/20 for reason. Maybe this new era of Hollywood combined with his Social Media generation is churning out these complaints? Because while of course there is a point (they stopped making movies like that.........) (duh) James Bond was pretty tame for its day. No? Pretty typical too. I think it also had a lot of strong females. But yeah. This got left behind in 80s man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 12:37:53 PM #78:	Xethuminra posted... Yeah but the people complaining about it dont have a leg to stand on mostly. Theres something to say about classic courtship & male/female values (across all cultures) but more importantly.... Womens rights and how these old films cross the line, and how we can use that to recognize social injustices being committed today. They say hindsight is 20/20 for reason. Maybe this new era of Hollywood combined with his Social Media generation is churning out these complaints? Because while of course there is a point (they stopped making movies like that.........) (duh) James Bond was pretty tame for its day. No? Pretty typical too. I think it also had a lot of strong females. But yeah. This got left behind in 80s man. Strong females such as Honey "TIRE TRACKS ARE DRAGONS" Ryder or Mary "WHOOPS MY BUTT LAUNCHED A MISSILE" Goodnight? <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959341955] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah but the people complaining about it dont have a leg to stand on mostly. Theres something to say about classic courtship & male/female values (across all cultures) but more importantly.... Womens rights and how these old films cross the line, and how we can use that to recognize social injustices being committed today. They say hindsight is 20/20 for reason. Maybe this new era of Hollywood combined with his Social Media generation is churning out these complaints? Because while of course there is a point (they stopped making movies like that.........) (duh) James Bond was pretty tame for its day. No? Pretty typical too. I think it also had a lot of strong females. But yeah. This got left behind in 80s man. </quote> Strong females such as Honey "TIRE TRACKS ARE DRAGONS" Ryder or Mary "WHOOPS MY BUTT LAUNCHED A MISSILE" Goodnight?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 10/24/21 12:38:29 PM #79:	fcie909x108c posted... Strong females such as Honey "TIRE TRACKS ARE DRAGONS" Ryder or Mary "WHOOPS MY BUTT LAUNCHED A MISSILE" Goodnight? Well Maybe not those two. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:959341974] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>fcie909x108c posted... </cite> <quote>Strong females such as Honey "TIRE TRACKS ARE DRAGONS" Ryder or Mary "WHOOPS MY BUTT LAUNCHED A MISSILE" Goodnight?</quote>Well Maybe not those two. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 10/24/21 12:45:57 PM #80:	Southernfatman posted... In the context of the movie and in the JB universe that's how it worked though. Doesn't mean its rape. At what point is consent circumvented? If someone is your soulmate does that mean you need to fuck them as soon as possible? That is a utterly bizarre take even if we assume she had absolute belief in tarot cards. It's completely demeaning to actual rape victims. Rape by deceit is a very specific type of claim that requires material lies that would undermine a reasonable person's consent. Tarot cards would be laughed out of a court room, even if it's a sincere belief. --- 'Cause you know that I have no fear, ain't gonna walk into the river and disappear. I'm gonna be a powerful man. Red blood running down the broken sand. <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:959342119] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite> <quote>In the context of the movie and in the JB universe that's how it worked though.</quote>Doesn't mean its rape. At what point is consent circumvented? If someone is your soulmate does that mean you need to fuck them as soon as possible? That is a utterly bizarre take even if we assume she had absolute belief in tarot cards. It's completely demeaning to actual rape victims. Rape by deceit is a very specific type of claim that requires material lies that would undermine a reasonable person's consent. Tarot cards would be laughed out of a court room, even if it's a sincere belief. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DogOfPeace 10/24/21 12:51:55 PM #81:	Conflict posted... 11 and 14 him, of all people calling others incels --- Woof! <cite>DogOfPeace posted [p:959342276] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Conflict posted... </cite> <quote>11 and 14</quote> him, of all people calling others incels </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fcie909x108c 10/24/21 12:52:51 PM #83:	Rape by deceit is a very specific type of claim that requires material lies that would undermine a reasonable person's consent. Tarot cards would be laughed out of a court room, even if it's a sincere belief. Can you not do this pedantic sealion shit No one is arguing what could be legally proven in a court room. The fact of the matter is Solitaire did not want to sleep with Bond, Bond wanted to sleep with Solitaire, and he coerced her into sleeping with him by stacking the deck. That is literal rape. <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959342299] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote><quote>Rape by deceit is a very specific type of claim that requires material lies that would undermine a reasonable person's consent. Tarot cards would be laughed out of a court room, even if it's a sincere belief.</quote> Can you not do this pedantic sealion shit No one is arguing what could be legally proven in a court room. The fact of the matter is Solitaire did not want to sleep with Bond, Bond wanted to sleep with Solitaire, and he coerced her into sleeping with him by stacking the deck. That is literal rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 10/24/21 12:53:09 PM #84:	He literally deceived her into giving consent fuck off defending his actions. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:959342307] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>He literally deceived her into giving consent fuck off defending his actions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 10/24/21 1:01:11 PM #86:	Mr Hangman posted... It's not coersion! What would have happened to her if she refused? Absolutely nothing. He coerced her into giving consent by making her think she had no other choice stop defending his actions. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:959342491] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted... </cite> <quote>It's not coersion! What would have happened to her if she refused? Absolutely nothing.</quote> He coerced her into giving consent by making her think she had no other choice stop defending his actions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 1:02:51 PM #87:	Mr Hangman posted... It's not coersion! What would have happened to her if she refused? Absolutely nothing. She'd have to abandon everything she believed in and as an extent of that, be killed by Kananga because she would be of no use to him. <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959342537] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted...</cite> <quote>It's not coersion! What would have happened to her if she refused? Absolutely nothing. </quote> She'd have to abandon everything she believed in and as an extent of that, be killed by Kananga because she would be of no use to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 10/24/21 1:05:18 PM #88:	the bond movies got better with this this with pierce Brosnan right? Or was it Daniel Craig's era? --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:959342597] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>the bond movies got better with this this with pierce Brosnan right? Or was it Daniel Craig's era? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 1:06:15 PM #89:	Arcanine2009 posted... the bond movies got better with this this with pierce Brosnan right? Or was it Daniel Craig's era? Dalton <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959342616] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote>the bond movies got better with this this with pierce Brosnan right? Or was it Daniel Craig's era? </quote> Dalton</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 10/24/21 1:10:19 PM #90:	fcie909x108c posted... Dalton With Connery (as usual) being somewhat of an outstanding case. The whole thing is misogynistic, even Brosnan. But Connerys Bond takes the cake. He brought something with him to the role that made is much worse. But again. This is a big topic. For big people. Feel free to chime in tho @thewall, @theair <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:959342707] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>fcie909x108c posted... </cite> <quote>Dalton</quote>With Connery (as usual) being somewhat of an outstanding case. The whole thing is misogynistic, even Brosnan. But Connerys Bond takes the cake. He brought something with him to the role that made is much worse. But again. This is a big topic. For big people. Feel free to chime in tho @thewall, @theair </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jon davis 10/24/21 1:18:52 PM #91:	spikethedevil posted... He coerced her into giving consent by making her think she had no other choice stop defending his actions. Will you shut the fuck up, and stop getting so emotional over movies made 50 years ago. --- Strength is the only thing that matters in this world, everything else is just a delusion for the weak. <cite>jon davis posted [p:959342933] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>He coerced her into giving consent by making her think she had no other choice stop defending his actions.</quote> Will you shut the fuck up, and stop getting so emotional over movies made 50 years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 10/24/21 1:19:50 PM #92:	jon davis posted... Will you shut the fuck up, and stop getting so emotional over movies made 50 years ago. What about Birth of a Nation? That was made more than 100 years ago. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:959342962] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>jon davis posted... </cite> <quote>Will you shut the fuck up, and stop getting so emotional over movies made 50 years ago.</quote> What about Birth of a Nation? That was made more than 100 years ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 10/24/21 1:20:32 PM #93:	Why are talking about Birth of a Nation? dont wanna tackle Brosnan? <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:959342982] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Why are talking about Birth of a Nation? dont wanna tackle Brosnan? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 10/24/21 1:41:55 PM #94:	Xethuminra posted... With Connery (as usual) being somewhat of an outstanding case. The whole thing is misogynistic, even Brosnan. But Connerys Bond takes the cake. He brought something with him to the role that made is much worse. But again. This is a big topic. For big people. Feel free to chime in tho @thewall, @theair Yeah Brosnan's bind was definitely misogynistic, but I don't remember take scenes. Maybe it's been a while --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:959343567] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>With Connery (as usual) being somewhat of an outstanding case. The whole thing is misogynistic, even Brosnan. But Connerys Bond takes the cake. He brought something with him to the role that made is much worse. But again. This is a big topic. For big people. Feel free to chime in tho @thewall, @theair</quote>Yeah Brosnan's bind was definitely misogynistic, but I don't remember take scenes. Maybe it's been a while </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 1:43:08 PM #95:	Arcanine2009 posted... Yeah Brosnan's bind was definitely misogynistic, but I don't remember take scenes. Maybe it's been a while He sexually harassed the doctor in TWINE <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959343601] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Arcanine2009 posted...</cite> <quote> Yeah Brosnan's bind was definitely misogynistic, but I don't remember take scenes. Maybe it's been a while </quote> He sexually harassed the doctor in TWINE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
charey 10/24/21 1:43:54 PM #96:	In order to think that stacking the deck of Tarot cards is rape you have to also ignore the meaning of the Lovers card. Lovers Keywords UPRIGHT: Love, harmony, relationships, values alignment, choices That means even with the belief that the cards determine destiny it at most says she has a choice to sex Bond or not. You could interpret the three cards as either High Priestess should be Lovers with the Fool or the High Priestess would be a Fool to Love him. (These double meanings are a get out of jail free clause for predictions going wrong, which is how tarot can seem to always be right.) That isnt to say Bond isnt a rapist in other scenes like when he forced himself on Pussy Galore but this one scene is just him being an asshole not rape. --- I won't have it! I'm not having anyone talk about me in the past tense! ~Squall Leonhart <cite>charey posted [p:959343615] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>In order to think that stacking the deck of Tarot cards is rape you have to also ignore the meaning of the Lovers card. <quote>Lovers Keywords UPRIGHT: Love, harmony, relationships, values alignment, choices</quote> That means even with the belief that the cards determine destiny it at most says she has a choice to sex Bond or not. You could interpret the three cards as either High Priestess should be Lovers with the Fool or the High Priestess would be a Fool to Love him. (These double meanings are a get out of jail free clause for predictions going wrong, which is how tarot can seem to always be right.) That isnt to say Bond isnt a rapist in other scenes like when he forced himself on Pussy Galore but this one scene is just him being an asshole not rape. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 1:45:04 PM #97:	If Solitaire doesnt have sex with Bond, she thinks her powers are bullshit. If she stops using her powers, Kenanga kills her. She did not have a choice. It was rape. <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959343645] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>If Solitaire doesnt have sex with Bond, she thinks her powers are bullshit. If she stops using her powers, Kenanga kills her. She did not have a choice. It was rape.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie 10/24/21 1:46:38 PM #98:	Xethuminra posted... Why are talking about Birth of a Nation? dont wanna tackle Brosnan? He said that it wasn't worth getting worked up about because it was 50 years old. I offered an older movie as a counterargument. <cite>FortuneCookie posted [p:959343688] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>Xethuminra posted... </cite> <quote>Why are talking about Birth of a Nation? dont wanna tackle Brosnan?</quote> He said that it wasn't worth getting worked up about because it was 50 years old. I offered an older movie as a counterargument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 10/24/21 1:47:23 PM #99:	His interactions with Xenia are both misogynistic and abusive, if not outright predatory. Sure, she was evil, but that doesnt excuse treating her like meat. Consequentially, it was stuff like that which made Bronson believable as Bond and I dont think they meant anything by it. In fact, Xenia changed how we perceived the Bond girl. <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:959343708] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>His interactions with Xenia are both misogynistic and abusive, if not outright predatory. Sure, she was evil, but that doesnt excuse treating her like meat. Consequentially, it was stuff like that which made Bronson believable as Bond and I dont think they meant anything by it. In fact, Xenia changed how we perceived the Bond girl. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/24/21 1:48:22 PM #100:	I wouldnt hold the Xenia shit against him. That shit was entirely her. <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959343741] in Remember w... [t:79725943]...</cite> <quote>I wouldnt hold the Xenia shit against him. That shit was entirely her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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