Current Events > Remember when James Bond extorted a nurse for sex?

(+) Yeah! (+)

He threatened to tell her boss she screwed up.

Why do we forget?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/sep/23/james-bond-no-time-to-die-cary-fukunaga-thunderball

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Better call the cops

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Im afraid there may be no "we" on whatever agenda you got going there.

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James Bond is a rapist and a bad bloke all around
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Yeah he rapes women a lot in the books

he's really a disgusting person.

The movie version is still a pig but much less grotesuqely sexist/racist

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https://youtu.be/mzXkbJwrN38

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He also tricked a supposed psychic tarot reader that they were destined to be lovers by stacking the deck.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Yeah he rapes women a lot in the books

It's been a while since I've read them, but I don't remember anything super worse than some of his movie exploits (which aren't excusable).

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Yeah he rapes Solitaire by deception in Live and Let Die.

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PIG_B0SS posted...

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/sep/23/james-bond-no-time-to-die-cary-fukunaga-thunderball

Cary directed this new Bond film? Now I wanna see it.

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Nobody forgot. Bond is a sexist, misogynist dinosaur.

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au_gold posted...

Nobody forgot. Bond is a sexist, misogynist dinosaur.

A relic of the cold war.

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The incel vibe is really strong here, lots of beta male energy.

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Just a game with the girls.

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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

If it were a real psychic tarot reader (I.e. A con artist) they probably already wanted to fuck him/played along.

Yeah please dont excuse even fictional rape.

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FF_Redux posted...

https://youtu.be/mzXkbJwrN38

Yeah the ex wife he used to beat has gone on record saying she regrets not standing up about it

She just accepted that it was okay for him to hit her and never told anyone because that's how connery and his friends acted

Connery is a great actor but a real piece of shit

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I enjoy classic Bond movies, and even I can admit that he's a total pig and likely sex offender.

Mr Hangman posted...

I really can't bring myself to see playing a card trick on a con artist as rape, or even any lesser form of sexual assault. Would you call it "rape" if a man said "we're destined to be together" and then later said "psych! There's no such thing as destiny!" Rape by deception has got to include some criteria that there's an objective truth and falseness about the deceiving information.

He literally stacked the deck to trick her into giving consent. It was rape now stop defending it.

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One could also say she was an idiot for not thinking to try more then those cards and how she does not react especially after the deed was done that she was not pissed as those cards would still be on the ground.

Not sure one can call it rape but it was predatory as hell.

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Mr Hangman posted...

I really can't bring myself to see playing a card trick on a con artist as rape, or even any lesser form of sexual assault. Would you call it "rape" if a man said "we're destined to be together" and then later said "psych! There's no such thing as destiny!" Rape by deception has got to include some criteria that there's an objective truth and falseness about the deceiving information.

I think it's a bit different than that. She truly believed she had a gift of tarot reading. Not sure if tarot is supposed to be real in the JB world, but she thought it was true either way. If it wasn't, she's then just a young and naive woman who was tricked.

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FFS at the people defending it.

Southernfatman posted...

I think it's a bit different than that. She truly believed she had a gift of tarot reading. Not sure if tarot is supposed to be real in the JB world, but she thought it was true either way. At best she's still just a young and naive woman.

Literally this and Bond tricked her into giving consent by using her belief against her its rape.

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He literally stacks it with lovers cards to make her think she has no choice but to sleep with him its rape stop with this sick defending of it as you clearly havent seen the movie or scene and have no idea WTF youre talking about.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

The movie version is still a pig but much less grotesuqely sexist/racist

I havent seen any pre-Brosnan 007 movie, but he doesnt seem that bad to be there. Its not like he is throwing n words and telling female spies to make him a sandwich or something.

lets not pretend that the people saying that bond if a racist, sexist pig right now wont celebrate when the next 007 (that girl from the movie that threatened to shoot his knee in the movie trailer) starts interrogating men by squeezing their balls and then saying awww white boys gonna scream?

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when the next 007 (that girl from the movie that threatened to shoot his knee in the movie trailer) starts interrogating men by squeezing their balls and then saying awww white boys gonna scream?

go back to facebook

DogOfPeace posted...

I havent seen any pre-Brosnan 007 movie, but he doesnt seem that bad to be there. Its not like he is throwing n words and telling female spies to make him a sandwich or something.

lets not pretend that the people saying that bond if a racist, sexist pig right now wont celebrate when the next 007 (that girl from the movie that threatened to shoot his knee in the movie trailer) starts interrogating men by squeezing their balls and then saying awww white boys gonna scream?

She isnt going to be the next 007. And she never threatens to shoot him so what?


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spikethedevil posted...

He literally stacks it with lovers cards to make her think she has no choice but to sleep with him its rape stop with this sick defending of it as you clearly havent seen the movie or scene and have no idea WTF youre talking about.

In real life I would not consider a guy doing a card trick with tarot cards rape any more than if he read her palm and said it showed they were compatible. Like, they're not real.

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Doe posted...

In real life I would not consider a guy doing a card trick with tarot cards rape any more than if he read her palm and said it showed they were compatible. Like, they're not real.

The issue is Solitaire thought it was real

fcie909x108c posted...

The issue is Solitaire thought it was real

Hmm I guess I'd have to view the scene. I see that if someone puts a lot of faith in something and you mess with it but never tell them, that can be messed up.

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Doe posted...

In real life I would not consider a guy doing a card trick with tarot cards rape any more than if he read her palm and said it showed they were compatible. Like, they're not real.

FFS she believes its real thats the bit the idiotic defenders are missing. She thinks she has these powers and will loose them if she has sex and Bond knowing that tricks her into giving consent. Its rape.

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Doe posted...

Hmm I guess I'd have to view the scene. I see that if someone puts a lot of faith in something and you mess with it but never tell them, that can be messed up.

Oh FFS dint defend something you havent even seen lol.

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Mr Hangman posted...

I have it on DVD. There's really two components of it, first stacking the deck with the lovers card, but also the interpretation of that. For loading the card to be rape by deception, you'd first have to establish that there's something legitimate about it if the card had appeared by accident. There's not, it's all mumbo jumbo. That's why the weight of the situation is on the interpretation of it. The card could appear there and Solitaire could make whatever meaning she wants to out of that. She's the expert reader, after all. So you can't claim that Bond tricked her on the interpretation side, that's how she chose to read it.

Fuck off defending it. She is superstitious and Bond used that against her to trick her into giving consent, hell she is even pissed off with him later on. You are literally defending rape or at the very least a sex offence.

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fcie909x108c posted...

go back to facebook

this is a weird diss. I despise Facebook, I dont use it. But I guess this means someone else?

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I haven't seen it, but it seems like the whole tarot card thing is basically just weird foreplay. Whether she really believes it or she's just using it as a pretense, she has the ability to stop the encounter at any time. You'd have to argue that someone who believes in horoscopes and the like is inherently mentally deficient for it to be rape.

Nemu posted...

I haven't seen it, but it seems like the whole tarot card thing is basically just weird foreplay. Whether she really believes it or she's just using it as a pretense, she has the ability to stop the encounter at any time. You'd have to argue that someone who believes in horoscopes and the like is inherently mentally deficient for it to be rape.

Dont comment unless youve seen it.


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Mr Hangman posted...

I have it on DVD. There's really two components of it, first stacking the deck with the lovers card, but also the interpretation of that. For loading the card to be rape by deception, you'd first have to establish that there's something legitimate about it if the card had appeared by accident. There's not, it's all mumbo jumbo. That's why the weight of the situation is on the interpretation of it. The card could appear there and Solitaire could make whatever meaning she wants to out of that. She's the expert reader, after all. So you can't claim that Bond tricked her on the interpretation side, that's how she chose to read it.

You typed a lot of words that boil down to "she asked for it"

DogOfPeace posted...

this is a weird diss. I despise Facebook, I dont use it. But I guess this means someone else?

If it wasn't Facebook you heard that bullshit about there's going to be a new black female 007, then I would suggest you go back to whatever alt right message board told you that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RRhhewFqyw

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Good thing hes not a real person

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spikethedevil posted...

Dont comment unless youve seen it.

Doesn't really matter unless this conversation has left out critical information. Unless you think it's rape to lie about your astrological sign to a slutty person who is way too into astrology, then it's not going to be rape there either.

Nemu posted...

Doesn't really matter unless this conversation has left out critical information. Unless you think it's rape to lie about your astrological sign to a slutty person who is way too into astrology, then it's not going to be rape there either.

Bro, this isn't hard to comprehend.

Solitaire, the girl, thought the tarot cards were telling her real things. She thought her powers were real. They might have been real to begin with. Point is Bond stacked the deck and fooled her into believing what she already would have been inclined to believe had he not stacked the deck and received the lover's card.

It's literal rape.

fcie909x108c posted...

Bro, this isn't hard to comprehend.

Solitaire, the girl, thought the tarot cards were telling her real things. She thought her powers were real. They might have been real to begin with. Point is Bond stacked the deck and fooled her into believing what she already would have been inclined to believe had he not stacked the deck and received the lover's card.

It's literal rape.

You'd have to argue that she is mentally deficient in that case. That's a completely superficial criteria for engaging in sex. It's akin to a man or woman lying to their partner about actually being in love with them to have a one night stand and then ghosting them. It's shitty, but not rape.

You'd have to argue that she is mentally deficient in that case.

It's not rape because she's too stupid to consent?