o BLONDE responsible for the PROP GUNS on Alec Baldwin Movie!!

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Full Throttle 10/22/21 10:56:56 PM #1:	Should Hanna be responsible for this? Yes. she left those guns with live rounds on that pile and is most definitely at fault No. i say the assistant director is at fault for picking it out of the bunch and not looking at it first I still say baldwin is most at fault for not looking at it All of the above I think Hanna and Dave are most at fault I still think it was an accident that needs more investigating Should Hanna be responsible for this? - Results (1 vote) Yes. she left those guns with live rounds on that pile and is most definitely at fault 100% (1 vote) 1 No. i say the assistant director is at fault for picking it out of the bunch and not looking at it first 0% (0 votes) 0 I still say baldwin is most at fault for not looking at it 0% (0 votes) 0 All of the above 0% (0 votes) 0 I think Hanna and Dave are most at fault 0% (0 votes) 0 I still think it was an accident that needs more investigating 0% (0 votes) 0 Wish i saw this before i posted the older article now that the facts are coming out.. Dailymail has revealed that 24 y/o Hanna Gutierrez was the armourer responsible for the guns on set after she was brought in when the local union walked off set and she was there to replace the original prop master. She was the one who laid out 3 prop guns on a cart out on filming location and then assistant director, Dave Halls grabbed the gun from the cart and brought it to Baldwin unaware it had live rounds. Halls then shouted "Cold Gun" before handing it to Baldwin using the phrase to signal the cast and crew the gun was safe to fire on the scene and seconds later, Baldwin pulled the trigger that caused the fatal accident.. Hanna is the daughter of legendary armourer and firearms consultant Thell Reed who worked from a young age and she did not respond to dailymail for comment The crew on Alec Baldwin's movie set were already concerned about gun safety before he accidentally killed cinemtographer Halyna Hutchins and injured the director, Joel Souza when the prop master in charge of the firearm that killed her had just JOINED the crew after the union walked out during the IATSE dispute!! A search warrant said the assistant director handed Baldwin a gun loaded with live rounds and indicated it was "safe" to use in the moments before the fatal shooting The warrant said a single bullet struck her chest and then the director on his shoulder as he was standing behind her suggesting it travelled all the way through her body Unionized workers walked off the set hours before the fatal shooting after they plained about shoddy conditions and another safety incient days earlier involving 2 misfires of a prop weapon Yet, the unnamed prop master who oversaw the gun used in the fatal shooting was a nonunion worker who was just "brought in on the fly" to replace the workers who walked off set Unionized employees complained they stayed overnight in Albuquerque, an hour's drive from the set and not Santa Fe because they wouldn't pay their hotels When they showed up on set, they found out they were placed by LOCALS as it begs the question who those locals were and what training did they have before handing Baldwin the weapon The gun also had 2 misfires in a closed cabin with loud pops according to a source telling dailymail Baldwin was seen on his knees crying and on the phone talking to someone after the shooting and was devastated on what had transpired After the shooting, the armourer took possession of the gun and a spent casing which were turned over to police along with other prop guns and ammo on set as Baldwin changed out of his western clothes and was stained with blood which was also turned over A prop master tells dailymail if the person in charge had properly checked the gun first before handing it to baldwin, none of this would have happened The film is set in the 1880s in the old west and has now halted production indefinitely which also starred Supernatural's Jensen Ackles Legal experts say naming Alec Baldwin is a virtual certainy but charges are more likely to be centered on whoever loaded the gun Who do you think should be charged? Hanna - Responsible for Guns https://i.imgur.com/SJPTXTP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jwCSwU7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/U4rA1aP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OCpkz6K.jpg Dave - Assistant Director who gave Baldwin the gun claiming it was safe https://i.imgur.com/xSdDfjb.jpg Accident on Set - https://i.imgur.com/dIvkON4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KkhVnUq.jpg <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:959302122] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote> Should Hanna be responsible for this? Yes. she left those guns with live rounds on that pile and is most definitely at fault No. i say the assistant director is at fault for picking it out of the bunch and not looking at it first I still say baldwin is most at fault for not looking at it All of the above I think Hanna and Dave are most at fault I still think it was an accident that needs more investigating Vote View Results Should Hanna be responsible for this? - Results (1 vote) Yes. she left those guns with live rounds on that pile and is most definitely at fault 100% (1 vote) 1 No. i say the assistant director is at fault for picking it out of the bunch and not looking at it first 0% (0 votes) 0 I still say baldwin is most at fault for not looking at it 0% (0 votes) 0 All of the above 0% (0 votes) 0 I think Hanna and Dave are most at fault 0% (0 votes) 0 I still think it was an accident that needs more investigating 0% (0 votes) 0 Show Voting Form Wish i saw this before i posted the older article now that the facts are coming out.. Dailymail has revealed that 24 y/o Hanna Gutierrez was the armourer responsible for the guns on set after she was brought in when the local union walked off set and she was there to replace the original prop master. She was the one who laid out 3 prop guns on a cart out on filming location and then assistant director, Dave Halls grabbed the gun from the cart and brought it to Baldwin unaware it had live rounds. Halls then shouted "Cold Gun" before handing it to Baldwin using the phrase to signal the cast and crew the gun was safe to fire on the scene and seconds later, Baldwin pulled the trigger that caused the fatal accident.. Hanna is the daughter of legendary armourer and firearms consultant Thell Reed who worked from a young age and she did not respond to dailymail for comment The crew on Alec Baldwin's movie set were already concerned about gun safety before he accidentally killed cinemtographer Halyna Hutchins and injured the director, Joel Souza when the prop master in charge of the firearm that killed her had just JOINED the crew after the union walked out during the IATSE dispute!! A search warrant said the assistant director handed Baldwin a gun loaded with live rounds and indicated it was "safe" to use in the moments before the fatal shooting The warrant said a single bullet struck her chest and then the director on his shoulder as he was standing behind her suggesting it travelled all the way through her body Unionized workers walked off the set hours before the fatal shooting after they plained about shoddy conditions and another safety incient days earlier involving 2 misfires of a prop weapon Yet, the unnamed prop master who oversaw the gun used in the fatal shooting was a nonunion worker who was just "brought in on the fly" to replace the workers who walked off set Unionized employees complained they stayed overnight in Albuquerque, an hour's drive from the set and not Santa Fe because they wouldn't pay their hotels When they showed up on set, they found out they were placed by LOCALS as it begs the question who those locals were and what training did they have before handing Baldwin the weapon The gun also had 2 misfires in a closed cabin with loud pops according to a source telling dailymail Baldwin was seen on his knees crying and on the phone talking to someone after the shooting and was devastated on what had transpired After the shooting, the armourer took possession of the gun and a spent casing which were turned over to police along with other prop guns and ammo on set as Baldwin changed out of his western clothes and was stained with blood which was also turned over A prop master tells dailymail if the person in charge had properly checked the gun first before handing it to baldwin, none of this would have happened The film is set in the 1880s in the old west and has now halted production indefinitely which also starred Supernatural's Jensen Ackles Legal experts say naming Alec Baldwin is a virtual certainy but charges are more likely to be centered on whoever loaded the gun Who do you think should be charged? Hanna - Responsible for Guns https://i.imgur.com/SJPTXTP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jwCSwU7.jpg https://i.imgur.com/U4rA1aP.jpg https://i.imgur.com/OCpkz6K.jpg Dave - Assistant Director who gave Baldwin the gun claiming it was safe https://i.imgur.com/xSdDfjb.jpg Accident on Set - https://i.imgur.com/dIvkON4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KkhVnUq.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master Kazuya 10/22/21 10:58:59 PM #2:	It's really sad that it happened. It shouldn't have happened; bad case of negligence. --- itt my post is the best <cite>Master Kazuya posted [p:959302183] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>It's really sad that it happened. It shouldn't have happened; bad case of negligence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Full Throttle 10/22/21 11:11:41 PM #3:	now i just have to wait to close the other one if people stopped posting --- The News Will Continue...For Now call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:959302568] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>now i just have to wait to close the other one if people stopped posting</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 10/22/21 11:15:36 PM #4:	I just dont understand, its incredibly easy to just clear a gun to make sure its safe. Did she even bother looking --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:959302668] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>I just dont understand, its incredibly easy to just clear a gun to make sure its safe. Did she even bother looking </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/22/21 11:18:22 PM #5:	They need to figure out where that bullet came from and how it got on set <cite>Zikten posted [p:959302736] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>They need to figure out where that bullet came from and how it got on set</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/22/21 11:18:29 PM #6:	Scab labor kills --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:959302740] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>Scab labor kills </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlingBling22947 10/23/21 7:05:53 AM #7:	Zikten posted... They need to figure out where that bullet came from and how it got on set --- When was the last time you heard your boy Nas rhyme? Never on schedule but always on time <cite>BlingBling22947 posted [p:959309030] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite> <quote>They need to figure out where that bullet came from and how it got on set</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 10/23/21 7:12:01 AM #8:	Okay, so this might have happened because the Rust production hired non-union work in the face of a mass strike? --- I'm gonna burn it all down today, and sweep all the ashes away Now Playing: Pokemon HeartGold, Minecraft, Oldschool Runescape <cite>MrMallard posted [p:959309102] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>Okay, so this might have happened because the Rust production hired non-union work in the face of a mass strike? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 10/23/21 7:14:53 AM #9:	darkprince45 posted... I just dont understand, its incredibly easy to just clear a gun to make sure its safe. Did she even bother looking Maybe they were complacent >_> --- https://imgur.com/nlaY1qH https://imgur.com/zHJ1OCo https://imgur.com/btBPP4E https://imgur.com/1B3bMHw https://imgur.com/2aof3ao <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:959309146] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>I just dont understand, its incredibly easy to just clear a gun to make sure its safe. Did she even bother looking</quote>Maybe they were complacent >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Homeless_Waifu 10/23/21 8:12:19 AM #10:	I think Alec Baldwin should be held accountable. He was the last person carry the weapon and therefore should of been wielding the weapon in a responsible manner or determined if had the potential to cause harm (check if it was loaded, if it has a safety mechanism) If you don't know how to use the weapon you're wielding, you should not be allowed to be anywhere near it. --- The switch needs a good demolition derby game that's all I want!!! - started Feb. 2021 <cite>Homeless_Waifu posted [p:959309730] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>I think Alec Baldwin should be held accountable. He was the last person carry the weapon and therefore should of been wielding the weapon in a responsible manner or determined if had the potential to cause harm (check if it was loaded, if it has a safety mechanism) If you don't know how to use the weapon you're wielding, you should not be allowed to be anywhere near it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 10/23/21 8:25:10 AM #11:	Homeless_Waifu posted... I think Alec Baldwin should be held accountable. He was the last person carry the weapon and therefore should of been wielding the weapon in a responsible manner or determined if had the potential to cause harm (check if it was loaded, if it has a safety mechanism) If you don't know how to use the weapon you're wielding, you should not be allowed to be anywhere near it. With the revelation that they were using scab labor because the unionised crew walked out - both due to the wider spanning strike and because a gun prop had been misfiring multiple times beforehand - there's definitely something to be said for Alec Baldwin and his production company in the way they went about this. I still think a majority of the culpability here stems from the people working with the props. Alec Baldwin took the gun from a person who said it was safe. The gun was loaded with a blank, presumably by another person. He had no intention to kill or maim by partaking in his job of acting. If he's gonna be held accountable, it should be for the actions of his production company who hired scab labor in the face of unionised workers walking off the job due to health concerns. I'm at the point where I do think Alec Baldwin and his company are culpable for this for hiring scabs in the face of danger. But to say he should be held accountable for holding the gun and firing the round? I think that's a stupid idea, because there are multiple people between him and the gun who were meant to ensure the safety of the firearm. As far as direct culpability goes? Whoever loaded the live round. Indirect culpability through extremely scummy labor measures that enabled this tragedy to happen? If it comes down to Baldwin's production company and not an external source - then at that point, charge Baldwin and his business with reckless endangerment and negligence. --- I'm gonna burn it all down today, and sweep all the ashes away Now Playing: Pokemon HeartGold, Minecraft, Oldschool Runescape <cite>MrMallard posted [p:959309917] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>Homeless_Waifu posted... </cite> <quote>I think Alec Baldwin should be held accountable. He was the last person carry the weapon and therefore should of been wielding the weapon in a responsible manner or determined if had the potential to cause harm (check if it was loaded, if it has a safety mechanism) If you don't know how to use the weapon you're wielding, you should not be allowed to be anywhere near it.</quote> With the revelation that they were using scab labor because the unionised crew walked out - both due to the wider spanning strike and because a gun prop had been misfiring multiple times beforehand - there's definitely something to be said for Alec Baldwin and his production company in the way they went about this. I still think a majority of the culpability here stems from the people working with the props. Alec Baldwin took the gun from a person who said it was safe. The gun was loaded with a blank, presumably by another person. He had no intention to kill or maim by partaking in his job of acting. If he's gonna be held accountable, it should be for the actions of his production company who hired scab labor in the face of unionised workers walking off the job due to health concerns. I'm at the point where I do think Alec Baldwin and his company are culpable for this for hiring scabs in the face of danger. But to say he should be held accountable for holding the gun and firing the round? I think that's a stupid idea, because there are multiple people between him and the gun who were meant to ensure the safety of the firearm. As far as direct culpability goes? Whoever loaded the live round. Indirect culpability through extremely scummy labor measures that enabled this tragedy to happen? If it comes down to Baldwin's production company and not an external source - then at that point, charge Baldwin and his business with reckless endangerment and negligence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/23/21 10:27:00 AM #12:	Antifar posted... Scab labor kills shut the fuck up, jesus christ --- Smooth hands that I'd been stripped of, I knew the ground 'til I was flying <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:959311688] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>Scab labor kills</quote>shut the fuck up, jesus christ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 10/23/21 10:30:50 AM #13:	There should be an option blaming the strikers. If they didn't strike this wouldn't have happened. --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:959311769] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>There should be an option blaming the strikers. If they didn't strike this wouldn't have happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 10/23/21 10:38:23 AM #14:	BilalPowell posted... There should be an option blaming the strikers. If they didn't strike this wouldn't have happened. Guns had misfired twice on set before their strike, so --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:959311931] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>BilalPowell posted... </cite> <quote>There should be an option blaming the strikers. If they didn't strike this wouldn't have happened.</quote>Guns had misfired twice on set before their strike, so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tappor 10/23/21 10:43:42 AM #15:	mods, close this thread --- There is no signature; take off your clothes. <cite>Tappor posted [p:959312014] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>mods, close this thread </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 10/23/21 11:23:37 AM #16:	I just dont understand how 1) live rounds would be anywhere near a movie set, and 2) how anyone would have the idea to manually load a revolver on a set. Unless the guns came from the outside, but still even then who would hand over a loaded gun for a movie set to use. <cite>gamer167 posted [p:959312796] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>I just dont understand how 1) live rounds would be anywhere near a movie set, and 2) how anyone would have the idea to manually load a revolver on a set. Unless the guns came from the outside, but still even then who would hand over a loaded gun for a movie set to use.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Full Throttle 10/23/21 3:02:09 PM #17:	most agree it's hanna --- The News Will Continue...For Now call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right <cite>Full Throttle posted [p:959317990] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>most agree it's hanna</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/23/21 3:06:59 PM #18:	She looks like a MAGA and she was a scab. This truly might be a case of arranging a homicide to pwn the libz <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959318103] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>She looks like a MAGA and she was a scab. This truly might be a case of arranging a homicide to pwn the libz</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThePhantomMedic 10/23/21 3:18:03 PM #19:	fuck tc <cite>ThePhantomMedic posted [p:959318375] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>fuck tc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 10/23/21 3:18:06 PM #20:	This tragedy is HER fault, unless someone else on set had a pre-meditated murder plan and pulled it off by pulling a fire alarm and swapping the rounds, or something like that. --- Ryzen 3700X \| Evga GTX 1070 Ti \| 16GB DDR4 3200 \| Crucial MX500 2TB <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:959318376] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>This tragedy is HER fault, unless someone else on set had a pre-meditated murder plan and pulled it off by pulling a fire alarm and swapping the rounds, or something like that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/23/21 3:20:15 PM #21:	fcie909x108c posted... She looks like a MAGA and she was a scab. This truly might be a case of arranging a homicide to pwn the libz shut the fuck up and stop using this chick's death to push your own maga scab schlock --- Smooth hands that I'd been stripped of, I knew the ground 'til I was flying <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:959318432] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>fcie909x108c posted... </cite> <quote>She looks like a MAGA and she was a scab. This truly might be a case of arranging a homicide to pwn the libz</quote>shut the fuck up and stop using this chick's death to push your own maga scab schlock </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/23/21 3:28:18 PM #22:	viewmaster_pi posted... shut the fuck up and stop using this chick's death to push your own maga scab schlock wat <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959318601] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote> shut the fuck up and stop using this chick's death to push your own maga scab schlock </quote> wat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pick4six 10/23/21 3:29:41 PM #23:	Shes going to jail. Shes now a criminal --- Bitcoin! <cite>pick4six posted [p:959318635] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>Shes going to jail. Shes now a criminal </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/23/21 3:44:43 PM #24:	fcie909x108c posted... wat post on your main, that's wat --- Smooth hands that I'd been stripped of, I knew the ground 'til I was flying <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:959319023] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>fcie909x108c posted... </cite> <quote>wat</quote>post on your main, that's wat </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/23/21 3:47:41 PM #25:	viewmaster_pi posted... post on your main, that's wat sure one sec <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959319091] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote> post on your main, that's wat </quote> sure one sec</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fcie909x108c 10/23/21 3:47:48 PM #26:	viewmaster_pi posted... post on your main, that's wat whats up <cite>fcie909x108c posted [p:959319094] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted...</cite> <quote> post on your main, that's wat </quote> whats up</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 10/23/21 3:51:03 PM #27:	Baldwin's fault. Shouldn't be handling the shit without proper training and shoulda known better than not to look at it properly himself But. It was probably just an accident Also she looks like a dumb fuck too Actually imma walk that back and blame every single person involved with handling that gun while it had a live round in it --- Common sense charged before shipping - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:959319185] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>Baldwin's fault. Shouldn't be handling the shit without proper training and shoulda known better than not to look at it properly himself But. It was probably just an accident Also she looks like a dumb fuck too Actually imma walk that back and blame every single person involved with handling that gun while it had a live round in it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 10/23/21 3:59:42 PM #28:	Smackems posted... Actually imma walk that back and blame every single person involved with handling that gun while it had a live round in it blanks are considered "live rounds," there's no information regarding whether or not it was a blank or legit bullet --- Smooth hands that I'd been stripped of, I knew the ground 'til I was flying <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:959319412] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>Smackems posted... </cite> <quote>Actually imma walk that back and blame every single person involved with handling that gun while it had a live round in it</quote>blanks are considered "live rounds," there's no information regarding whether or not it was a blank or legit bullet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 10/23/21 4:02:09 PM #29:	viewmaster_pi posted... blanks are considered "live rounds," there's no information regarding whether or not it was a blank or legit bullet I see. I thought it was an actual bullet loaded round I'll just shut up then I guess --- Common sense charged before shipping - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:959319479] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>blanks are considered "live rounds," there's no information regarding whether or not it was a blank or legit bullet</quote>I see. I thought it was an actual bullet loaded round I'll just shut up then I guess </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Background_Guy 10/23/21 4:06:14 PM #30:	But is she hot? <cite>Background_Guy posted [p:959319577] in This is th... [t:79724069]...</cite> <quote>But is she hot? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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