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sabrestorm
10/20/21 1:06:35 PM
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You worried?



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Lorkhaj
10/20/21 1:07:50 PM
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About the fascist tide currently overtaking American politics? Yeah, pretty worried.

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DowntownMrSmith
10/20/21 1:09:14 PM
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Democrats keep alienating swing voters so....
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CRON
10/20/21 1:10:22 PM
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I'd hate for it to happen but the Democrats are literally doing nothing to prevent any of this from happening. It's frustrating.

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Machete
10/20/21 1:10:39 PM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
Democrats keep alienating swing voters so....



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Rexdragon125
10/20/21 1:12:02 PM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
Democrats keep alienating swing voters so....

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/8/1786532/-Cartoon-You-made-me-become-a-Nazi
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DowntownMrSmith
10/20/21 1:12:11 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
How?

Failing to secure the border, pushing all this woke bullshit and defunding the police.
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CanuckCowboy
10/20/21 1:13:49 PM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
Failing to secure the border, pushing all this woke bullshit and defunding the police.

yeah trumps wall sure secured the border lmao.

also what police have been defunded?

and how are the dems responsible for woke bullshit when its a societal shift and has nothing to do with government mandates or policy?

its almost like youre out of touch with reality. Hmmm.

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Rexdragon125
10/20/21 1:14:44 PM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
Failing to secure the border, pushing all this woke bullshit and defunding the police.
lol called it. This you?
https://miro.medium.com/max/700/1*DZfSapQmx1_bFTYZCC_wTA.jpeg

https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84
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DowntownMrSmith
10/20/21 1:16:57 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/08/opinion/democrats-david-shor-education-polarization.html

Put it all together, and the problem Democrats face is this: Educational polarization has made the Senate even more biased against Democrats than it was, and the decline in ticket splitting has made it harder for individual Democratic candidates to run ahead of their party.

Atop this analysis, Shor has built an increasingly influential theory of what the Democrats must do to avoid congressional calamity. The chain of logic is this: Democrats are on the edge of an electoral abyss. To avoid it, they need to win states that lean Republican. To do that, they need to internalize that they are not like and do not understand the voters they need to win over. Swing voters in these states are not liberals, are not woke and do not see the world in the way that the people who staff and donate to Democratic campaigns do.

All this comes down to a simple prescription: Democrats should do a lot of polling to figure out which of their views are popular and which are not popular, and then they should talk about the popular stuff and shut up about the unpopular stuff. Traditional diversity and inclusion is super important, but polling is one of the only tools we have to step outside of ourselves and see what the median voter actually thinks, Shor said. This theory is often short-handed as popularism. It doesnt sound as if it would be particularly controversial.

It is.

Popularism, Explained and Questioned

Shors theory of popularism, at its heart, is a critique of the professional staffers, consultants and organizers who shape the Democratic Partys message, image and strategic choices.

I think the core problem with the Democratic Party is that the people who run and staff the Democratic Party are much more educated and ideologically liberal and they live in cities, and ultimately our candidate pool reflects that, he said.

Nor is Shors ire aimed only at the liberal wing of the party. Popularism isnt mere moderation. One of the highest-polling policies in Shors research is letting Medicare negotiate prescription drug prices, but its so-called moderates, like Sinema, who are trying to strike that from the reconciliation bill. To Shor, this is lunacy.

Shor believes the party has become too unrepresentative at its elite levels to continue being representative at the mass level. I dont think its a coincidence that the people weve lost are likely to be low-socioeconomic-status people, he said. If you look inside the Democratic Party, there are three times more moderate or conservative nonwhite people than very liberal white people, but very liberal white people are infinitely more represented. Thats morally bad, but it also means eventually theyll leave. The only way out of this, he said, is to care more and cater to the preference of our low-socioeconomic-status supporters.
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Prestoff
10/20/21 1:17:05 PM
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I would love to see him run, only to fail again.

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Lorkhaj
10/20/21 1:18:53 PM
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lmao whose fucking alt is mrsmith

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DowntownMrSmith
10/20/21 1:19:30 PM
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CanuckCowboy posted...
yeah trumps wall sure secured the border lmao.

also what police have been defunded?

and how are the dems responsible for woke bullshit when its a societal shift and has nothing to do with government mandates or policy?

its almost like youre out of touch with reality. Hmmm.

Biden ended Trump's policy of making asylum seekers stay in Mexico, while their cases were adjudicated. This has led to a surge in illegal migrants. Biden's decision to end the policy is directly responsible.

Lots of city councils defunded the police at a local level, including in Boston, Los Angeles, Portland, Chicago, and New York.

The woke bullshit is not really a societal shift, it's being pushed by a small minority. Real people don't talk that way.

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Machete
10/20/21 1:26:54 PM
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Ah yes... opinion piece being opinion piece proves that it's not just opinion
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Doom_Art
10/20/21 1:29:28 PM
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My issue with Shor's statement is this suggestion that Democrats are on the edge of an electoral abyss

Sure, the party that won all three branches in the last 4 years is on the edge of electoral abyss lol

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Lorkhaj
10/20/21 1:30:46 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
My issue with Shor's statement is this suggestion that Democrats are on the edge of an electoral abyss
They are, but that's a result of fascist voter suppression being pushed by the GQP and the Dems failing to address it, not because they "aren't reaching out to Trump country"

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Rexdragon125
10/20/21 1:39:12 PM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
Biden ended Trump's policy of making asylum seekers stay in Mexico, while their cases were adjudicated. This has led to a surge in illegal migrants. Biden's decision to end the policy is directly responsible.

Lots of city councils defunded the police at a local level, including in Boston, Los Angeles, Portland, Chicago, and New York.

The woke bullshit is not really a societal shift, it's being pushed by a small minority. Real people don't talk that way.
So when the fascists collapse the US into a tinpot 3rd world country should Canada take you in?
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DogOfPeace
10/20/21 1:39:49 PM
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Lorkhaj posted...
About the fascist tide currently overtaking American politics? Yeah, pretty worried.


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DogOfPeace
10/20/21 1:40:50 PM
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CRON posted...
I'd hate for it to happen but the Democrats are literally doing nothing to prevent any of this from happening. It's frustrating.

they had the strongest case ever. The insurrectionists should have been arrested/charged. But not a single one of the organizers got even a slap on the wrist.

they have been allowed to recoup, reorganize and plan round 2. This time they will win.

thanks, weaksauce dems

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Cocytus
10/20/21 1:41:55 PM
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sabrestorm posted...
You worried?

No, he can't even fucking count. It'd be three more years atm.
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monkmith
10/20/21 1:44:13 PM
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Vicious_Dios
10/20/21 1:44:52 PM
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Worried? Hell naw.

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