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VipaGTS
10/15/21 2:24:33 PM
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10014947-jon-gruden-bruce-allens-anti-colin-kaepernick-emails-revealed-in-dan-snyder-filing

In the deluge of racist, sexist and anti-gay emails sent from former Las Vegas Raiders coach Jon Gruden to former Washington Football Team executive Bruce Allen, Gruden and Allen also criticized Colin Kaepernick's protests against police brutality.

"They suspend people for taking amino acids they should cut this f--k," Gruden wrote in an email to Allen, per Henry Bushnell and Jason Owens of Yahoo Sports.
Allen responded, "I've expressed my OUTRAGE," (emphasis his).

if it wasnt already obvious, my mans was blackballed.

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MaxEffingBemis
10/15/21 2:28:09 PM
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The good news is these two clowns have been blackballed now lmao

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thronedfire2
10/15/21 2:29:23 PM
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The NFL is really gonna get away with Gruden being the fall guy for everything

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Jaded_Dragon
10/15/21 2:30:18 PM
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I'm shocked!!!

Also, release all the emails NFL.

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ReignFury
10/15/21 2:30:37 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
The NFL is really gonna get away with Gruden being the fall guy for everything

Other GMs sweating rn

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ScazarMeltex
10/15/21 2:31:25 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
The NFL is really gonna get away with Gruden being the fall guy for everything
Yep. Gruden is a symptom not the disease,but you know how it is, if you can pin it on one person to preserve the league's image they'll do it in a heartbeat.

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Medussa
10/15/21 2:33:27 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
The NFL is really gonna get away with Gruden being the fall guy for everything

if snyder gets out of this in less than handcuffs the league deserves to burn.

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gatorsPENSbucs
10/15/21 2:35:07 PM
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Crazy that people still think about this dude and crazy they think he was good?

Damn, if only Kaep didnt opt out of a 100+ million dollar contract. I wonder what gm or commentator made him do that.

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VipaGTS
10/15/21 2:36:35 PM
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Medussa posted...
if snyder get out of this in less than handcuffs the league deserves to burn.
The owners have to be careful about how they do this. Goodell cant just force him out, it comes down to the other owners and it would set a precedent that could be problematic. In all they need to find a way to force Snyder and Davis to sell their respective teams.

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BlueTigerLion
10/15/21 2:47:25 PM
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Out of 650,000 emails kinda suspicious only Grudens have been leaked. Reminds me of the baseball steroid list where there were 104 test positive but only a handful got named.

NFL is making Jon the fall guy when there are probably other racists, homophobes, sexist in the league.

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cjsdowg
10/15/21 2:47:46 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Crazy that people still think about this dude and crazy they think he was good?

Damn, if only Kaep didnt opt out of a 100+ million dollar contract. I wonder what gm or commentator made him do that.

Stop getting your news about this case from racist.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-49ers-wouldve-cut-colin-kaepernick-if-he-hadnt-opted-out-of-his-contract/


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Taharqa_
10/15/21 2:52:22 PM
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That's why they paid Kaep that settlement, they didn't want that discovery to come out. The NFL is a old school good ole boy network. Gruden isn't the only one with those views.

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Dathrowed1
10/15/21 3:07:39 PM
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I mean RBg and Obama criticized Kaepernick too. Not like that but they did

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BeantownHero
10/15/21 3:09:24 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Crazy that people still think about this dude and crazy they think he was good?

Damn, if only Kaep didnt opt out of a 100+ million dollar contract. I wonder what gm or commentator made him do that.

this is what happens when you get your sports opinions from Clay Travis


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gatorsPENSbucs
10/15/21 3:17:04 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Stop getting your news about this case from racist.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/the-49ers-wouldve-cut-colin-kaepernick-if-he-hadnt-opted-out-of-his-contract/
Thats cool, did I say anything about him not being cut if he didnt? But if you wanna bring up him not being any good, then thats cool as well and just backs me up.

He turned into a garbage qb and expected top of the line starter money. Nobody in their right mind is paying a 2nd or 3rd stringer a lot of money, and especially not top of the line money.

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FortuneCookie
10/15/21 3:20:31 PM
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I'm glad the only bad man in the NFL is being held accountable for his vitriol.
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UghWhoCares
10/15/21 3:22:54 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Thats cool, did I say anything about him not being cut if he didnt? But if you wanna bring up him not being any good, then thats cool as well and just backs me up.

He turned into a garbage qb and expected top of the line starter money. Nobody in their right mind is paying a 2nd or 3rd stringer a lot of money, and especially not top of the line money.
Sounds like they shouldnt have blacklisted him then

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Mr_Rian
10/15/21 3:26:37 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Thats cool, did I say anything about him not being cut if he didnt?
You said "I wonder what gm or commentator made him do that". That was the answer.

If he was so awful, they wouldn't even had to have blacklisted him. The NFL would never had to pay him a dime.


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cjsdowg
10/15/21 3:52:52 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Thats cool, did I say anything about him not being cut if he didnt? But if you wanna bring up him not being any good, then thats cool as well and just backs me up.

He turned into a garbage qb and expected top of the line starter money. Nobody in their right mind is paying a 2nd or 3rd stringer a lot of money, and especially not top of the line money.


Was he any good...

https://www.complex.com/sports/2017/08/kaepernick-is-better-than-most-quarterbacks/


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thronedfire2
10/15/21 4:07:06 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Thats cool, did I say anything about him not being cut if he didnt? But if you wanna bring up him not being any good, then thats cool as well and just backs me up.

He turned into a garbage qb and expected top of the line starter money. Nobody in their right mind is paying a 2nd or 3rd stringer a lot of money, and especially not top of the line money.

you know he was better than a bunch of starting QBs every season since he stopped playing right?


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gatorsPENSbucs
10/15/21 4:12:27 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Was he any good...

He was not. Its cute you base everything off of news articles. If you didnt watch him play just say you have no idea what youre talking about and itll make this all easier.

Teams figured out how to stop his legs, he never learned how to become a Qb, so he started to be bad really bad.

oh and that article is pretty terrible and really grasping at straws. When did Case Keenum demand starter money? When did Ryan Fitzpatrick demand starter money? Matt Barkley? So on and so on.


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UghWhoCares
10/15/21 4:14:08 PM
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Mr_Rian posted...
If he was so awful, they wouldn't even had to have blacklisted him. The NFL would never had to pay him a dime.
Exactly.

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MaxEffingBemis
10/15/21 4:14:24 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Lol Gruden will be back in the league within 2 years
You really underestimate how bad this situation is

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MaxEffingBemis
10/15/21 4:16:13 PM
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Also I guess Ill contribute to this old dispute but theres no reason he couldnt have been a backup all these years. He has been blackballed

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VipaGTS
10/15/21 4:29:43 PM
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These people who say he sucks clearly dont watch football and if they do they dont understand. He was easily an above average QB. The type that could easily find a starting job in a QB hungry league. Saying otherwise is just lying to yourself to push your agenda but go ahead, do you.

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Dathrowed1
10/15/21 5:42:21 PM
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https://youtu.be/F2MUiIcwQPM

How did this topic go without showing Kaepernick supporters this?

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soulunison2
10/15/21 5:46:57 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
That's why they paid Kaep that settlement, they didn't want that discovery to come out. The NFL is a old school good ole boy network. Gruden isn't the only one with those views.

yup, i've been telling this to people for years, their was collusion and the court case would not have looked good for the NFL
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CADE FOSTER
10/15/21 6:04:35 PM
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Those saying he sucks If Nate Peterman has a back up job Kaep should def have a back up job
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garan
10/15/21 6:12:36 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
Out of 650,000 emails kinda suspicious only Grudens have been leaked. Reminds me of the baseball steroid list where there were 104 test positive but only a handful got named.

NFL is making Jon the fall guy when there are probably other racists, homophobes, sexist in the league.


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soulunison2
10/15/21 6:40:08 PM
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garan posted...
Could not agree more. Unless they 'leak' everything, this is a fuckin scam.

apparently the NYT is sitting on everything right now and they're releasing things in bits and pieces
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cjsdowg
10/15/21 8:38:51 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He was not. Its cute you base everything off of news articles. If you didnt watch him play just say you have no idea what youre talking about and itll make this all easier.

You are wrong on so many aspects of this situation and you are doubling down in your wrongness. Do you hate black people complaining about police violence that much ?

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gatorsPENSbucs
10/15/21 9:01:58 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
You are wrong on so many aspects of this situation and you are doubling down in your wrongness.
He was 3-16 in his final 2 years. 3 wins. 16 losses.

Please explain to me how thats good. And your 2nd part was just complete nonsense that made no sense. I find it funny that people either didnt watch him, or have completely forgotten how bad he really was.

But continue on with your articles about being better than Case Keenum, Matt Barkley, Trever Siemian and Blake Bortles. Some real high caliber players there.

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hsvhighlife
10/15/21 9:03:21 PM
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any player in an american sport who kneels during the anthem should be banned for life from the sport. they can take their talents to romania or something

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BignutzisBack
10/15/21 9:05:07 PM
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Colin Kaepernick fell off big time his last season or so of games, I highly doubt he could have got a starting job even if he never kneeled. That being said he should have been a shoe in for a highly paid backup position for many years, so he was obviously blackballed

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Dathrowed1
10/15/21 9:17:54 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
He was 3-16 in his final 2 years. 3 wins. 16 losses.

Please explain to me how thats good. And your 2nd part was just complete nonsense th at made no sense. I find it funny that people either didnt watch him, or have completely forgotten how bad he really was.

But continue on with your articles about being better than Case Keenum, Matt Barkley, Trever Siemian and Blake Bortles. Some real high caliber players there.
I mean he lost a starting job legit to Blaine Gabbert to that means something

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cjsdowg
10/15/21 9:18:49 PM
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hsvhighlife posted...
any player in an american sport who kneels during the anthem should be banned for life from the sport. they can take their talents to romania or something

Any country that gives players a reason to kneel needs to change.

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Dathrowed1
10/15/21 9:21:57 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Any country that gives players a reason to kneel needs to change.
Didn't police shootings decrease while murder rates went up though?

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cjsdowg
10/15/21 9:24:42 PM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
Didn't police shootings decrease while murder rates went up though?

Police shootings did not go down .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2021/police-shootings-since-2015/

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Taharqa_
10/15/21 9:40:47 PM
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hsvhighlife posted...
any player in an american sport who kneels during the anthem should be banned for life from the sport. they can take their talents to romania or something

I see you prefer the North Korea method of forced patriotism.

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gatorsPENSbucs
10/15/21 9:47:01 PM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
I mean he lost a starting job legit to Blaine Gabbert to that means something
He sure did, and it sure does.

Which everyone seems to forget was the reasoning he started not standing for the national anthem. He was sitting on the bench whining.

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VipaGTS
10/15/21 9:51:03 PM
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Chip Kelly was a horrible coach who failed because he didn't know how to use Kaep and started Gabbert. When Kaepernick eventually replaced him midseason he did much much better.

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MedeaLysistrata
10/15/21 9:52:18 PM
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Dathrowed1
10/15/21 9:56:34 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Police shootings did not go down .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2021/police-shootings-since-2015/
So BLM was a colossal failure?

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NinjaWarrior455
10/15/21 10:02:16 PM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
So BLM was a colossal failure?
So are you just pretending or are you actually that dumb?

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ScazarMeltex
10/15/21 11:42:24 PM
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hsvhighlife posted...
any player in an american sport who kneels during the anthem should be banned for life from the sport. they can take their talents to romania or something
"reeeee football mans must stand for sacred magic flag song"

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nexigrams
10/15/21 11:50:49 PM
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I mean his stats already proved he was being blackballed, which is really really hard to do in a league with so much parity, so much money and prestige on the line. They don't blackball murderers who can tackle good, wife beaters who can run the ball good, literally half the league that's violating the drug policy.

32 ownership groups under these conditions managed to blackball a guy for taking a knee though lol. It's actually extraordinarily bold when you think about it.


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