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CyricZ 10/15/21 9:23:54 AM #103:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... He should just apologize. That is certainly an option open to him. gunplagirl posted... Mostly it's about the power and customizability, as well as being somewhat counterculture in a world where most people only ever use the major 3-4 OS' that come with pre built computers. That's kinda funny, but add some fart noises next time. :) Solid Snake07 posted... Notice that no one has asked to explain why a specific joke is funny or not. Just the vague "how can an offensive joke be funny" hockeybub may not have done this exact thing in this topic, but he's been doing it in others. But hey, if that's what it takes, please tell me why misgendering Ms. Dorman was funny. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:959054494] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted... </cite> <quote>He should just apologize.</quote>That is certainly an option open to him. gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Mostly it's about the power and customizability, as well as being somewhat counterculture in a world where most people only ever use the major 3-4 OS' that come with pre built computers.</quote>That's kinda funny, but add some fart noises next time. :) Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Notice that no one has asked to explain why a specific joke is funny or not. Just the vague "how can an offensive joke be funny"</quote>hockeybub may not have done this exact thing in this topic, but he's been doing it in others. But hey, if that's what it takes, please tell me why misgendering Ms. Dorman was funny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/15/21 9:25:33 AM #104:	Clutch posted... Jesus Christ, its even worse than I thought. This is what punching down really looks like. Well now you're just whining. I thought you'd want to commit to this bit. I gave you so many openings. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:959054524] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>Jesus Christ, its even worse than I thought. This is what punching down really looks like.</quote>Well now you're just whining. I thought you'd want to commit to this bit. I gave you so many openings. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/15/21 9:28:07 AM #105:	gunplagirl posted... Okay. Explain how blaming all trans people for injustices that the black community has received isn't problematic. Where did he blame the trans community for the injustices against black people? He said in the special something along the lines of "I'm really just jealous of how well that movement seems to be going" I don't recall him saying anything that blames trans people for the social problems of blacks. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:959054572] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Okay. Explain how blaming all trans people for injustices that the black community has received isn't problematic.</quote> Where did he blame the trans community for the injustices against black people? He said in the special something along the lines of "I'm really just jealous of how well that movement seems to be going" I don't recall him saying anything that blames trans people for the social problems of blacks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:30:18 AM #106:	Solid Snake07 posted... Where did he blame the trans community for the injustices against black people? He said in the special something along the lines of "I'm really just jealous of how well that movement seems to be going" I don't recall him saying anything that blames trans people for the social problems of blacks. Did you expect that she actually watched the special? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959054626] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Where did he blame the trans community for the injustices against black people? He said in the special something along the lines of "I'm really just jealous of how well that movement seems to be going" I don't recall him saying anything that blames trans people for the social problems of blacks.</quote> Did you expect that she actually watched the special? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/15/21 9:31:21 AM #107:	I hope people realize it's perfectly okay to think the special was funny while at the same time showing even an ounce of sympathy towards the trans people that may have found it offensive. Like you don't have to be all "It was funny, FUCK all them snowflakes". --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:959054648] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>I hope people realize it's perfectly okay to think the special was funny while at the same time showing even an ounce of sympathy towards the trans people that may have found it offensive. Like you don't have to be all "It was funny, FUCK all them snowflakes". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/15/21 9:33:38 AM #108:	CyricZ posted... But hey, if that's what it takes, please tell me why misgendering Ms. Dorman was funny. Are you talking about the "I knew your father and he was a wonderful woman?" line? Because it's pretty humorously absurd that someone who identified as woman is the biological father to child? Also felt like tongue in cheek hat tipping tribute to his dead friend, who was also a comedian. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:959054696] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>But hey, if that's what it takes, please tell me why misgendering Ms. Dorman was funny.</quote> Are you talking about the "I knew your father and he was a wonderful woman?" line? Because it's pretty humorously absurd that someone who identified as woman is the biological father to child? Also felt like tongue in cheek hat tipping tribute to his dead friend, who was also a comedian. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:33:40 AM #109:	Crono99 posted... Sounds like this whole thing was just a publicity stunt... because now a lot of people are gonna watch to see what the fuss is about. Im sure equal parts will never watch it and virtue signal about how great they are for not doing so. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959054697] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like this whole thing was just a publicity stunt... because now a lot of people are gonna watch to see what the fuss is about.</quote> Im sure equal parts will never watch it and virtue signal about how great they are for not doing so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 10/15/21 9:33:46 AM #110:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Like you don't have to be all "It was funny, f* all them snowflakes". This is a video game message board. I'm surprised they're not sending death threats. --- Hard times (happiest days of my life) hard times gone by <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:959054702] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>Like you don't have to be all "It was funny, f* all them snowflakes".</quote>This is a video game message board. I'm surprised they're not sending death threats. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/15/21 9:34:58 AM #111:	Clutch posted... Did you expect that she actually watched the special? Not really --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:959054739] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>Did you expect that she actually watched the special?</quote> Not really </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/15/21 9:37:08 AM #112:	Solid Snake07 posted... Because it's pretty humorously absurd that someone who identified as woman is the biological father to child? Noted. Someone transitioning later in life is "humorously absurd". underlines circles --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:959054790] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Because it's pretty humorously absurd that someone who identified as woman is the biological father to child?</quote>Noted. Someone transitioning later in life is "humorously absurd". underlines circles </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:40:21 AM #113:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... I hope people realize it's perfectly okay to think the special was funny while at the same time showing even an ounce of sympathy towards the trans people that may have found it offensive. Like you don't have to be all "It was funny, FUCK all them snowflakes". But at the same time nobody is being forced to watch his stand up. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959054864] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>I hope people realize it's perfectly okay to think the special was funny while at the same time showing even an ounce of sympathy towards the trans people that may have found it offensive. Like you don't have to be all "It was funny, FUCK all them snowflakes".</quote> But at the same time nobody is being forced to watch his stand up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/15/21 9:40:58 AM #114:	CyricZ posted... Noted. Someone transitioning later in life is "humorously absurd". underlines circles If you have to twist other people's words to make your point chances are pretty good that your point probably sucks. You don't have to find it funny, but the intention behind the joke isn't hateful or negative. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:959054882] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Noted. Someone transitioning later in life is "humorously absurd". underlines circles</quote> If you have to twist other people's words to make your point chances are pretty good that your point probably sucks. You don't have to find it funny, but the intention behind the joke isn't hateful or negative. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:41:15 AM #115:	CyricZ posted... Noted. Someone transitioning later in life is "humorously absurd". underlines circles marks furiously --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959054892] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Noted. Someone transitioning later in life is "humorously absurd". underlines circles</quote> marks furiously </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 10/15/21 9:41:36 AM #116:	Aside from anything else, the special simply wasnt funny. Bitter old men griping about progress are killing comedy. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:959054902] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Aside from anything else, the special simply wasnt funny. Bitter old men griping about progress are killing comedy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/15/21 9:42:52 AM #117:	Clutch posted... But at the same time nobody is being forced to watch his stand up. Sure. But there ARE trans people that like Dave Chappelle and felt like the trans jokes were too much and disappointed he went this route. I'm a fan of Chappelle's who isn't trans and even I thought the special focused too much on jokes at their expense. We also have to deal with people weirdly celebrating the fact that others are offended. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:959054934] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>But at the same time nobody is being forced to watch his stand up.</quote> Sure. But there ARE trans people that like Dave Chappelle and felt like the trans jokes were too much and disappointed he went this route. I'm a fan of Chappelle's who isn't trans and even I thought the special focused too much on jokes at their expense. We also have to deal with people weirdly celebrating the fact that others are offended. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/15/21 9:43:08 AM #118:	Solid Snake07 posted... If you have to twist other people's words to make your point chances are pretty good that your point probably sucks. You don't have to find it funny, but the intention behind the joke isn't hateful or negative. They're your words. Make them better if you want me to interpret them better. Clutch posted... marks furiously puts stars around it starts drawing a big titty anime girl in the margin gives up turns her into a big titty anime robot RchHomieQuanChi posted... We also have to deal with people weirdly celebrating the fact that others are offended. That's kind of a "running" thing we're always dealing with. EDIT: But then again, so is transphobia. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:959054940] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>If you have to twist other people's words to make your point chances are pretty good that your point probably sucks. You don't have to find it funny, but the intention behind the joke isn't hateful or negative.</quote>They're your words. Make them better if you want me to interpret them better. Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>marks furiously</quote>puts stars around it starts drawing a big titty anime girl in the margin gives up turns her into a big titty anime robot RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>We also have to deal with people weirdly celebrating the fact that others are offended.</quote>That's kind of a "running" thing we're always dealing with. EDIT: But then again, so is transphobia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoggyBottomBoy 10/15/21 9:43:52 AM #119:	gunplagirl posted... Okay. Explain how blaming all trans people for injustices that the black community has received isn't problematic. Explain why its okay for you to erase other trans peoples existence when its convenient for your argument. --- Fingah POP'n each otha's <cite>SoggyBottomBoy posted [p:959054954] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Okay. Explain how blaming all trans people for injustices that the black community has received isn't problematic.</quote>Explain why its okay for you to erase other trans peoples existence when its convenient for your argument. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/15/21 9:44:09 AM #120:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... I hope people realize it's perfectly okay to think the special was funny while at the same time showing even an ounce of sympathy towards the trans people that may have found it offensive. Like you don't have to be all "It was funny, FUCK all them snowflakes". Almost no one is saying "fuck all of them". They're just responding to people who are being very vocal about not liking it and pretty openly implying that Dave is a bigot and anyone who still likes him and disagrees is also a bigot. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:959054962] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>I hope people realize it's perfectly okay to think the special was funny while at the same time showing even an ounce of sympathy towards the trans people that may have found it offensive. Like you don't have to be all "It was funny, FUCK all them snowflakes".</quote> Almost no one is saying "fuck all of them". They're just responding to people who are being very vocal about not liking it and pretty openly implying that Dave is a bigot and anyone who still likes him and disagrees is also a bigot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forever_Black 10/15/21 9:44:16 AM #121:	I love Dave Chappelle. I wont allow white people to cancel him. --- Ooouuu <cite>Forever_Black posted [p:959054965] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>I love Dave Chappelle. I wont allow white people to cancel him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 10/15/21 9:44:52 AM #122:	I don't believe most comedians agree that it's bitter old White men that's "killing comedy." --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:959054986] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>I don't believe most comedians agree that it's bitter old White men that's "killing comedy."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:45:35 AM #123:	Solid Snake07 posted... If you have to twist other people's words to make your point chances are pretty good that your point probably sucks. You don't have to find it funny, but the intention behind the joke isn't hateful or negative. Maybe Cyricz can explain why transitioning later in life would negate someone also being a father? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959054999] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>If you have to twist other people's words to make your point chances are pretty good that your point probably sucks. You don't have to find it funny, but the intention behind the joke isn't hateful or negative.</quote> Maybe Cyricz can explain why transitioning later in life would negate someone also being a father? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 10/15/21 9:45:46 AM #124:	CE is still coping about this? --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:959055005] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>CE is still coping about this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/15/21 9:46:39 AM #125:	CyricZ posted... They're your words. Make them better if you want me to interpret them better. Your interpretation of my words is most definitely not what I said. Buy let's be real, you were really just making a half assed and disengeous attempt at a "gotcha" that just fell absolutely flat. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:959055025] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>They're your words. Make them better if you want me to interpret them better.</quote> Your interpretation of my words is most definitely not what I said. Buy let's be real, you were really just making a half assed and disengeous attempt at a "gotcha" that just fell absolutely flat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/15/21 9:47:22 AM #126:	Solid Snake07 posted... Almost no one is saying "fuck all of them". They're just responding to people who are being very vocal about not liking it and pretty openly implying that Dave is a bigot and anyone who still likes him and disagrees is also a bigot. Literally you in this topic Solid Snake07 posted... The thought of how much it makes these crybabies ass itch that they can't touch him is very amusing to me. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:959055039] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Almost no one is saying "fuck all of them". They're just responding to people who are being very vocal about not liking it and pretty openly implying that Dave is a bigot and anyone who still likes him and disagrees is also a bigot.</quote> Literally you in this topic Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>The thought of how much it makes these crybabies ass itch that they can't touch him is very amusing to me.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 10/15/21 9:47:52 AM #128:	Background_Guy posted... If you can't explain why something is funny you know nothing about comedy and probably shouldn't talk on the subject I don't necessarily agree this is an absolute. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:959055052] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Background_Guy posted... </cite> <quote>If you can't explain why something is funny you know nothing about comedy and probably shouldn't talk on the subject</quote>I don't necessarily agree this is an absolute. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:47:57 AM #129:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Sure. But there ARE trans people that like Dave Chappelle and felt like the trans jokes were too much and disappointed he went this route. I'm a fan of Chappelle's who isn't trans and even I thought the special focused too much on jokes at their expense. We also have to deal with people weirdly celebrating the fact that others are offended. Except he mostly targeted the people getting offended on behalf of trans people, not trans people themselves. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959055056] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>Sure. But there ARE trans people that like Dave Chappelle and felt like the trans jokes were too much and disappointed he went this route. I'm a fan of Chappelle's who isn't trans and even I thought the special focused too much on jokes at their expense. We also have to deal with people weirdly celebrating the fact that others are offended.</quote> Except he mostly targeted the people getting offended on behalf of trans people, not trans people themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/15/21 9:48:13 AM #130:	Solid Snake07 posted... Your interpretation of my words is most definitely not what I said. Buy let's be real, you were really just making a half assed and disengeous attempt at a "gotcha" that just fell absolutely flat. I'm asking you to make your point better. If you can't, at least have the courage to admit that. You've said it is "humorously absurd" that a trans woman is also the father of a child. Why is that? [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Oh I honestly absolutely believe this. He's a smart and talented man. He knew exactly what he was doing. That's the bummer of it all, really. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:959055063] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Your interpretation of my words is most definitely not what I said. Buy let's be real, you were really just making a half assed and disengeous attempt at a "gotcha" that just fell absolutely flat.</quote>I'm asking you to make your point better. If you can't, at least have the courage to admit that. You've said it is "humorously absurd" that a trans woman is also the father of a child. Why is that? <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Oh I honestly absolutely believe this. He's a smart and talented man. He knew exactly what he was doing. That's the bummer of it all, really. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:49:36 AM #131:	Crono99 posted... For y'all who don't think this is a publicity stunt He knew exactly what was going to happen and he did it anyway because he knew it would give him a shitload of attention and money I know that when I look at Dave Chappelles history, I definitely come away with the conclusion that all he cares about is attention and money. . . --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959055097] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote> For y'all who don't think this is a publicity stunt He knew exactly what was going to happen and he did it anyway because he knew it would give him a shitload of attention and money</quote> I know that when I look at Dave Chappelles history, I definitely come away with the conclusion that all he cares about is attention and money. . . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goldice 10/15/21 9:49:55 AM #132:	The only reason im "bothered" is because what happened to Chappelle's whole "being bothered with the reasons why bigots were laughing at his Chappelle show sketches" schtick? Or does that only apply to certain cases? --- New England Patriots: Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII Champions <cite>Goldice posted [p:959055103] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>The only reason im "bothered" is because what happened to Chappelle's whole "being bothered with the reasons why bigots were laughing at his Chappelle show sketches" schtick? Or does that only apply to certain cases?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/15/21 9:50:40 AM #133:	Clutch posted... Except he mostly targeted the people getting offended on behalf of trans people, not trans people themselves. C'mon bro, I saw the special too. He segued by addressing the trans community directly. Let's not pretend like he didn't. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:959055121] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>Except he mostly targeted the people getting offended on behalf of trans people, not trans people themselves.</quote> C'mon bro, I saw the special too. He segued by addressing the trans community directly. Let's not pretend like he didn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/15/21 9:51:53 AM #134:	Clutch posted... I know that when I look at Dave Chappelles history, I definitely come away with the conclusion that all he cares about is attention and money. . . Exactly. Exactly! This is off-kilter from his actual history of entertainment, as Goldice just said! --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:959055156] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>I know that when I look at Dave Chappelles history, I definitely come away with the conclusion that all he cares about is attention and money. . . </quote>Exactly. Exactly! This is off-kilter from his actual history of entertainment, as Goldice just said! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 10/15/21 9:52:49 AM #135:	https://www.lgbtmap.org//equality-maps/panic_defense_bans RickyTheBAWSE posted... I don't believe most comedians agree that it's bitter old White men that's "killing comedy." Huh? Whyd you add a word to what I said? I dont get the meaning of this post. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:959055180] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote> https://www.lgbtmap.org//equality-maps/panic_defense_bans RickyTheBAWSE posted... </cite> <quote>I don't believe most comedians agree that it's bitter old White men that's "killing comedy."</quote> Huh? Whyd you add a word to what I said? I dont get the meaning of this post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/15/21 9:52:59 AM #136:	FWIW, I thought his trans jokes in the other specials were funnier, and without the feeling like they were punching down. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:959055183] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>FWIW, I thought his trans jokes in the other specials were funnier, and without the feeling like they were punching down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/15/21 9:53:34 AM #137:	CyricZ posted... I'm asking you to make your point better. If you can't, at least have the courage to admit that. You've said it is "humorously absurd" that a trans woman is also the father of a child. Why is that? Oh I honestly absolutely believe this. He's a smart and talented man. He knew exactly what he was doing. That's the bummer of it all, really. Lol, so now that I've explained the joke you want me to explain my explanation. It's pretty clear reading the absurdity of something might be beyond your grasp. You seem to be implying that because something is described as absurd it's inherently bad or hateful. It's not. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:959055195] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>I'm asking you to make your point better. If you can't, at least have the courage to admit that. You've said it is "humorously absurd" that a trans woman is also the father of a child. Why is that? Oh I honestly absolutely believe this. He's a smart and talented man. He knew exactly what he was doing. That's the bummer of it all, really.</quote> Lol, so now that I've explained the joke you want me to explain my explanation. It's pretty clear reading the absurdity of something might be beyond your grasp. You seem to be implying that because something is described as absurd it's inherently bad or hateful. It's not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:53:39 AM #138:	CyricZ posted... Exactly. Exactly! This is off-kilter from his actual history of entertainment, as Goldice just said! It isnt. You just feel the need to imply some hidden agenda. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959055197] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Exactly. Exactly! This is off-kilter from his actual history of entertainment, as Goldice just said!</quote> It isnt. You just feel the need to imply some hidden agenda. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jaded_Dragon 10/15/21 9:54:55 AM #139:	Clutch posted... Except he mostly targeted the people getting offended on behalf of trans people, not trans people themselves. You know who else made fun of people standing up for others? --- Buying a game at release these days is basically paying to be a beta tester. -Me <cite>Jaded_Dragon posted [p:959055213] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>Except he mostly targeted the people getting offended on behalf of trans people, not trans people themselves.</quote> You know who else made fun of people standing up for others? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 10/15/21 9:56:14 AM #140:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... FWIW, I thought his trans jokes in the other specials were funnier, and without the feeling like they were punching down. Yeah Im in the same boat although I do know some people found them offensive. The ones in this new special were just bad and lazy. Like a troll will come on CE and say something outrageous and itll make people upset but that doesnt mean anything about what they said is funny. --- "If you wanna grow your business you need to exploit more." ~Austin_Era_II "Out of those two? Racist for me... easily." ~Vicious_Dios <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:959055235] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>FWIW, I thought his trans jokes in the other specials were funnier, and without the feeling like they were punching down.</quote> Yeah Im in the same boat although I do know some people found them offensive. The ones in this new special were just bad and lazy. Like a troll will come on CE and say something outrageous and itll make people upset but that doesnt mean anything about what they said is funny. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 10/15/21 9:56:26 AM #141:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Literally you in this topic You seem to have completely missed the "that they can't touch him" part of that very short post --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:959055242] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>Literally you in this topic</quote> You seem to have completely missed the "that they can't touch him" part of that very short post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 10/15/21 9:57:25 AM #142:	Solid Snake07 posted... Where did he blame the trans community for the injustices against black people? He said in the special something along the lines of "I'm really just jealous of how well that movement seems to be going" I don't recall him saying anything that blames trans people for the social problems of blacks. He went on to say they're white and use white privilege. He said this after mentioning a white lady who called the cops on him. And he finished the special saying LGBT people need to stop punching down on his people. It's not even a matter of things he said and drawing inferences, it's that it was tacitly implied. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:959055267] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Where did he blame the trans community for the injustices against black people? He said in the special something along the lines of "I'm really just jealous of how well that movement seems to be going" I don't recall him saying anything that blames trans people for the social problems of blacks.</quote>He went on to say they're white and use white privilege. He said this after mentioning a white lady who called the cops on him. And he finished the special saying LGBT people need to stop punching down on his people. It's not even a matter of things he said and drawing inferences, it's that it was tacitly implied. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 9:58:53 AM #143:	Jaded_Dragon posted... You know who else made fun of people standing up for others? This is Daves point. Who is doing something similar to this to trans people? Youre equating stand up to Jim Crow, and you see nothing wrong with that. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959055298] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Jaded_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>You know who else made fun of people standing up for others? </quote> This is Daves point. Who is doing something similar to this to trans people? Youre equating stand up to Jim Crow, and you see nothing wrong with that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/15/21 9:59:33 AM #144:	Clutch posted... This is Daves point. Who is doing something similar to this to trans people? Trans people have literally been killed --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:959055310] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>This is Daves point. Who is doing something similar to this to trans people?</quote> Trans people have literally been killed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Goldice 10/15/21 9:59:41 AM #145:	Shablagoo posted... The ones in this new special were just bad and lazy Which is my problem in a nutshell. Chappelle was apparently so upset at why certain people were laughing at jokes, but now he throws out these lazy ones that exist solely to laugh at said group. --- New England Patriots: Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX, XLIX, LI, LIII Champions <cite>Goldice posted [p:959055312] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote>The ones in this new special were just bad and lazy</quote> Which is my problem in a nutshell. Chappelle was apparently so upset at why certain people were laughing at jokes, but now he throws out these lazy ones that exist solely to laugh at said group.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/15/21 10:00:34 AM #146:	Clutch posted... This is Daves point. Who is doing something similar to this to trans people? Well if you mean "Who is pouring stuff on trans peoples' heads" what you're really asking is... Who is legislating against trans people? Who is killing trans people? I mean I guess it's not "similar". In fact it's quite worse. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:959055331] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>This is Daves point. Who is doing something similar to this to trans people?</quote>Well if you mean "Who is pouring stuff on trans peoples' heads" what you're really asking is... Who is legislating against trans people? Who is killing trans people? I mean I guess it's not "similar". In fact it's quite worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clutch 10/15/21 10:00:48 AM #147:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Trans people have literally been killed So have black people. Whats your point? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. <cite>Clutch posted [p:959055344] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite> <quote>Trans people have literally been killed</quote> So have black people. Whats your point? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jaded_Dragon 10/15/21 10:01:15 AM #148:	Here's why I truly have a problem defending Chappelle on this one, despite being a big fan of his. Chappelle first spoke to Oprah in 2006 about the pressures and people around him that left him feeling "manipulated" when he quit. Chappelle later offered more details to David Letterman in 2020, saying, It was me dressed in blackface who'd pop up anytime a person felt the pains of racism, which is a tough trick to pull off. It's not a bad sketch, but hearing the wrong laugh, while you're dressed that way, it makes you feel shame." Ultimately, the incident with the skit was like a fatal blow after an exhausting pummelling of creative struggles with those around him. Famously one of the reasons he stopped doing the Chappelle Show was because of this particular sketch that he's speaking on here. In that moment it became clear to him that there were certain people that were no longer laughing with him, but at him, and by extension, at black people. He's talked about this many times over the years since the show ended. I've always wished that the show kept going, and as a white dude, it really pissed me off that anybody would laugh at Dave and the rest of the guys on the show instead of with them. At the end of the day though, I completely understood and respected his decision to call it quits. This is obviously not the only reason he ended the show, as he also famously gave the "Baboon and the salt" analogy; but this was the very first reason he ever gave as to why he ended the show. My point is this: if Dave can be so keenly aware of racism that he was able to determine that white people were no longer laughing with him, but at him, and that his jokes were doing more harm than good at that particular moment to the black community; but he doesn't see how punching down on a marginalized community would do the same thing in this instance, well, that's either being purposefully obtuse, or completely ignorant about the situation. He's either, at best, horrendously misinformed, or at worst, punching down and having no issues with it because it doesn't effect him. IE: he didn't want people laughing at black people, because he's black; but has no issues with people laughing at trans people, because he's not trans. So which is it? Is he a hypocrite who has no problems making fun of people, as long as he's making fun of people that don't fit his particular demographic; or is everything fair game and he was full of shit for quitting his show when he did, for the reason he did? Because you really can't have it both ways. If you quit your show because you saw the damage your jokes were apparently doing to your own community, but have no issue joking about another marginalized community, then you're full of shit. And if you're fine with the reason he gave as to why he left his show, but also don't see a problem at making jokes at the expense of trans people, then you are also full of shit, because Chappelle is literally saying "I'm fine with making fun of everyone except for ME!" to the point where he walked away from $60 million dollars. This man literally cancelled himself because he felt like his jokes were painting black people in a bad light, but trans people are fair game? All I'm asking for is consistency. If he felt like his jokes were punching down on black people and stopped, then why should punching down on an even more marginalized community be OK with him or anyone else? Either marginalized communities are off limits for jokes because jokes have the potential to be damaging to a community, or they aren't. Pick one. --- Buying a game at release these days is basically paying to be a beta tester. -Me <cite>Jaded_Dragon posted [p:959055355] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Here's why I truly have a problem defending Chappelle on this one, despite being a big fan of his. <quote>Chappelle first spoke to Oprah in 2006 about the pressures and people around him that left him feeling "manipulated" when he quit. Chappelle later offered more details to David Letterman in 2020, saying, It was me dressed in blackface who'd pop up anytime a person felt the pains of racism, which is a tough trick to pull off. It's not a bad sketch, but hearing the wrong laugh, while you're dressed that way, it makes you feel shame." Ultimately, the incident with the skit was like a fatal blow after an exhausting pummelling of creative struggles with those around him.</quote> Famously one of the reasons he stopped doing the Chappelle Show was because of this particular sketch that he's speaking on here. In that moment it became clear to him that there were certain people that were no longer laughing with him, but at him, and by extension, at black people. He's talked about this many times over the years since the show ended. I've always wished that the show kept going, and as a white dude, it really pissed me off that anybody would laugh at Dave and the rest of the guys on the show instead of with them. At the end of the day though, I completely understood and respected his decision to call it quits. This is obviously not the only reason he ended the show, as he also famously gave the "Baboon and the salt" analogy; but this was the very first reason he ever gave as to why he ended the show. My point is this: if Dave can be so keenly aware of racism that he was able to determine that white people were no longer laughing with him, but at him, and that his jokes were doing more harm than good at that particular moment to the black community; but he doesn't see how punching down on a marginalized community would do the same thing in this instance, well, that's either being purposefully obtuse, or completely ignorant about the situation. He's either, at best, horrendously misinformed, or at worst, punching down and having no issues with it because it doesn't effect him. IE: he didn't want people laughing at black people, because he's black; but has no issues with people laughing at trans people, because he's not trans. So which is it? Is he a hypocrite who has no problems making fun of people, as long as he's making fun of people that don't fit his particular demographic; or is everything fair game and he was full of shit for quitting his show when he did, for the reason he did? Because you really can't have it both ways. If you quit your show because you saw the damage your jokes were apparently doing to your own community, but have no issue joking about another marginalized community, then you're full of shit. And if you're fine with the reason he gave as to why he left his show, but also don't see a problem at making jokes at the expense of trans people, then you are also full of shit, because Chappelle is literally saying "I'm fine with making fun of everyone except for ME!" to the point where he walked away from $60 million dollars. This man literally cancelled himself because he felt like his jokes were painting black people in a bad light, but trans people are fair game? All I'm asking for is consistency. If he felt like his jokes were punching down on black people and stopped, then why should punching down on an even more marginalized community be OK with him or anyone else? Either marginalized communities are off limits for jokes because jokes have the potential to be damaging to a community, or they aren't. Pick one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 10/15/21 10:01:37 AM #149:	Crono99 posted... For y'all who don't think this is a publicity stunt He knew exactly what was going to happen and he did it anyway because he knew it would give him a shitload of attention and money I thought that much was obvious, it's the only reason for him to continue beating this drum --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:959055364] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Crono99 posted... </cite> <quote> For y'all who don't think this is a publicity stunt He knew exactly what was going to happen and he did it anyway because he knew it would give him a shitload of attention and money</quote>I thought that much was obvious, it's the only reason for him to continue beating this drum </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/15/21 10:01:37 AM #150:	Clutch posted... So have black people. Whats your point? Okay....? --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:959055366] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Clutch posted... </cite> <quote>So have black people. Whats your point?</quote> Okay....? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 10/15/21 10:02:59 AM #151:	Jaded_Dragon posted... Here's why I truly have a problem defending Chappelle on this one, despite being a big fan of his. Can I save all this and reference it later? It's really good. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:959055397] in "If t... [t:79711702]...</cite> <quote>Jaded_Dragon posted... </cite> <quote>Here's why I truly have a problem defending Chappelle on this one, despite being a big fan of his.</quote>Can I save all this and reference it later? It's really good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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