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Njolk 10/08/21 4:26:37 PM #1: |
Not the plot, just the idea behind it
anime + literally Goofy and Donald Duck? Who asked for this? Am I the only one who thinks this is so weird? Why is it a thing? It's not like crossovers themselves are weird but what gamer likes little kid Disney characters? Are they popular in Japan? --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 10/08/21 4:28:28 PM #2: |
The basic ideas are:
Kingdom Hearts is light! My friends are my power! Come Guardian! Keyblade! Darkness! Riku! Sora! You know all that there is to know. --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Heartomaton 10/08/21 4:29:25 PM #3: |
https://youtu.be/OZ7IxXN9hm0
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gna647 10/08/21 4:30:29 PM #4: |
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obsolete 10/08/21 4:30:33 PM #5: |
Can someone explain Kingdom Hearts to me?
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R_Jackal 10/08/21 4:32:46 PM #6: |
It's basically a shounen anime plot from a story arc that shows the series should've ended many years ago and they're just making shit up now.
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Njolk 10/08/21 4:34:52 PM #7: |
Heartomaton posted...
https://youtu.be/OZ7IxXN9hm0 lol I loved that But I still don't get the Disney part --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Oubliettes 10/08/21 4:35:54 PM #8: |
Basically it boils down to when you walk away, you don't hear me say, "Please, oh baby, don't go." Simple and clean is the way that you're making me feel tonight. It's hard to let it go. You're giving me too many things lately. You're all I need, oh you smiled at me and said "Don't get me wrong, I love you but does that mean I have to meet your father?" When we are older, you'll understand what I meant when I said "No, I don't think life is quite that simple."
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masterpug53 10/08/21 4:36:47 PM #9: |
If you're asking for the root idea behind the series' creation, it was a crossover between Final Fantasy and Disney at a time when FF was still king shit of video game mountain and Disney was in its awkward post-Renaissance, pre-Pixar and Marvel phase. Once the KH had its own foothold and FF started to wane in popularity, the FF aspect was phased out in favor of original characters.
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Lost_All_Senses 10/08/21 4:37:11 PM #10: |
Njolk posted...
lol I loved that The Disney part is what makes people defend the nonsense story and anticipate new releases even though the story is bad --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dotsdfe 10/08/21 4:38:01 PM #11: |
The TLDR is that Nomura is really, really bad at writing larger-scale stories and he thinks that revealing that like 5 different characters are actually all the same character through really, really convoluted anime bullshit is a brilliant twist.
Or "Hearts! Anime! Power of friendship! But darkness! Scary!" ...Or, the other alternative, just play KH1 for its dumb Disney-themed nostalgia and pretend that the rest of the series doesn't exist. --- Winner of the Third Hacked User Contest. World's #1 Phoenix Wright fan. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 10/08/21 4:39:14 PM #12: |
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Njolk 10/08/21 4:39:29 PM #13: |
dotsdfe posted...
The TLDR is that Nomura is really, really bad at writing larger-scale stories and he thinks that revealing that like 5 different characters are actually all the same character through really, really convoluted anime bullshit is a brilliant twist. I have played about three hours of KH1 and I just didn't understand why adults like this game, it's extremely kiddy with all the Disney stuff --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AirFresh 10/08/21 4:39:46 PM #14: |
Kid lives on an island, wants to bang red head who lives on the same island, tides selphie and walks live there too and they're all 12 for some reason, suddenly shadow monsters with no hearts invade and girl kid wants to bang gets sucked up. Donald and Goofy are alerted this by King Mickey, and that the shadow monsters are ravaging worlds that all happen to be Disney Worlds, kid eventually gets found by Donald and Goofy and go on a planet hopping adventure where he seals holes with his giant key
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Njolk 10/08/21 4:40:33 PM #15: |
masterpug53 posted...
If you're asking for the root idea behind the series' creation, it was a crossover between Final Fantasy and Disney at a time when FF was still king shit of video game mountain and Disney was in its awkward post-Renaissance, pre-Pixar and Marvel phase. Once the KH had its own foothold and FF started to wane in popularity, the FF aspect was phased out in favor of original characters. I guess that makes sense, just such a strange combo to me. But maybe since I missed its time I'll never understand --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hambo the Hog 10/08/21 4:41:06 PM #16: |
You get over the weird juxtaposition pretty quickly when you're playing. Partly I think because in the first game, Sora is anime, but he's still a kid and has kind of a childlike wonder about visiting all these cartoon worlds.
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Njolk 10/08/21 4:41:08 PM #17: |
AirFresh posted...
Kid lives on an island, wants to bang red head who lives on the same island, tides selphie and walks live there too and they're all 12 for some reason, suddenly shadow monsters with no hearts invade and girl kid wants to bang gets sucked up. Donald and Goofy are alerted this by King Mickey, and that the shadow monsters are ravaging worlds that all happen to be Disney Worlds, kid eventually gets found by Donald and Goofy and go on a planet hopping adventure where he seals holes with his giant key Not the plot --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ilishe 10/08/21 4:41:17 PM #18: |
There's nothing to understand, play them if you have fun.
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Kiyune 10/08/21 4:41:33 PM #19: |
I remember hearing that the concept was pitched because of a chance encounter in an elevator and things went from there, I'm not sure how true that is though
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NoxObscuras 10/08/21 4:42:29 PM #20: |
Njolk posted...
Why is it a thing? It's not like crossovers themselves are weird but what gamer likes little kid Disney characters? Are they popular in Japan?From what I understand after two producers at Square talked about how Disney characters were the only ones popular enough to rival Mario games, Nomura volunteered to lead the project. And I loved Disney as a kid, so when a crossover between the Square Soft (they were huge at this point) and Disney was announced, I was incredibly excited. So yeah, there was a target audience. I was 12 when the game released and most of my friends were just as excited about it as I was. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AirFresh 10/08/21 4:42:40 PM #21: |
Oh they are just really fun action rpgs with a bonkers storyline and amazing music. Not much more to it
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MC_BatCommander 10/08/21 4:43:35 PM #22: |
Njolk posted...
I guess that makes sense, just such a strange combo to me. But maybe since I missed its time I'll never understand It was a lot of fun back when it was new. Now the games are so packed with anime garbage they're hard to enjoy. The first game will always be my favorite for this reason --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 10/08/21 4:45:40 PM #23: |
I wish I could find the video of the guy watching a cutscene then facepalms at the end.
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Njolk 10/08/21 4:45:57 PM #24: |
NoxObscuras posted...
From what I understand after two producers at Square talked about how Disney characters were the only ones popular enough to rival Mario games, Nomura volunteered to lead the project. Ah that's interesting, that makes sense --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_MorningStar 10/08/21 4:54:36 PM #25: |
dotsdfe posted...
...Or, the other alternative, just play KH1 for its dumb Disney-themed nostalgia and pretend that the rest of the series doesn't exist.KH2 shits on 1 in every conceivable way --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 10/08/21 4:59:00 PM #26: |
It may just be an urban legend, but the popular story is that a Square employee and a Disney employee ran into each other in an elevator and that's where they got the idea.
_MorningStar posted... KH2 shits on 1 in every conceivable way This is not true. The combat is way better, but the story is a little worse and the levels are way worse. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xethuminra 10/08/21 5:02:46 PM #27: |
The good people are bad but the bad people are worse.
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Xatrion 10/08/21 5:11:05 PM #28: |
Damn, there was an amusing flowchart with pictures that explained just about everything, but I can't find it.
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Strider102 10/08/21 5:19:47 PM #29: |
Xatrion posted...
Damn, there was an amusing flowchart with pictures that explained just about everything, but I can't find it. This? --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 10/08/21 5:20:59 PM #30: |
Strider102 posted...
This?I imagine he's talking about the one which is an insanely huge flowchart talking about the connections between all the characters and it looks like someone dumped a basket full of yarn on the DeviantArt original characters tag --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 10/08/21 5:23:26 PM #31: |
pegusus123456 posted...
I imagine he's talking about the one which is an insanely huge flowchart talking about the connections between all the characters and it looks like someone dumped a basket full of yarn on the DeviantArt original characters tag --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xatrion 10/08/21 5:24:19 PM #32: |
Strider102 posted...
This? No, it was something else. I found a reddit post with it, but it seems to have been deleted. Shame. --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/08/21 5:26:19 PM #33: |
Look up Vin Diesel nothing is stronger than family memes.
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Strider102 10/08/21 5:27:16 PM #34: |
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/08/21 5:29:11 PM #35: |
Everybody is the same guy
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unnamedsoldier 10/08/21 5:30:02 PM #36: |
Njolk posted...
I have played about three hours of KH1 and I just didn't understand why adults like this game, it's extremely kiddy with all the Disney stuff Most Nintendo games are extremely kiddy and adults love those ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 10/08/21 5:30:51 PM #37: |
Lost_All_Senses posted...
The Disney part is what makes people defend the nonsense story and anticipate new releases even though the story is badThere's more to entertainment than story. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/08/21 5:32:15 PM #38: |
unnamedsoldier posted...
Most Nintendo games are extremely kiddy and adults love those Most Nintendo games have no real story. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Letsago 10/08/21 5:33:16 PM #39: |
The TC reminded me of the time I wore a KH shirt in a restaurant and the waiter basically said the same thing, like "Anime... and Disney?"
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Njolk 10/08/21 5:48:04 PM #40: |
unnamedsoldier posted...
Most Nintendo games are extremely kiddy and adults love those Well it's ok if you like it but to me Mario is just fun cartoon styling Literally Goofy the dog saying "Hyuck! Garsh we're in deep doo doo Sora!" is a bit much for me compared to a little guy with a moustache riding a dinosaur --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fade2black001 10/08/21 5:51:13 PM #41: |
Strider102 posted...
The basic ideas are:Kairi Nobodies Ansem Mickey Donald Goofy Heartless Keyblade --- Put on a smile cause Jesus loves you ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 10/08/21 6:07:32 PM #42: |
Njolk posted...
Literally Goofy the dog saying "Hyuck! Garsh we're in deep doo doo Sora!"TC, this is a spoiler, but something even dumber happens in KH2. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hambo the Hog 10/08/21 6:20:17 PM #43: |
pegusus123456 posted...
TC, this is a spoiler, but something even dumber happens in KH2.That's a silly one, but I still think it's weirder when Donald and Goofy start talking about complex mechanics of nobodies and datascapes in scenes in KH3 lol. In 1 and 2, SDG mostly just bumble around saving the world while all the lore happens around them and we hear about it in reports and scenes about other characters. Then in 3 you start hearing Goofy talk about how the journal was converted into data and unversed are born out of negativity. It's jarring lol. --- I'm sorry, but 10,000 of ANYTHING on a PS2 would absolutely destroy your framerate. It'd be like playing chess through the mail. ~johnboy1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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loafy013 10/08/21 6:33:32 PM #44: |
Hambo the Hog posted...
That's a silly one, but I still think it's weirder when Donald and Goofy start talking about complex mechanics of nobodies and datascapes in scenes in KH3 lol. In 1 and 2, SDG mostly just bumble around saving the world while all the lore happens around them and we hear about it in reports and scenes about other characters. Then in 3 you start hearing Goofy talk about how the journal was converted into data and unversed are born out of negativity. It's jarring lol.I finally started playing this like a week ago, and yeah, it is a mess. Doesn't help that I have no idea what the hell is going on either. Guess I should have watched some of those 10 hour videos explaining whatever happened between KH2 and 3 instead of the game having some sort of explanation as to who the people are. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJ_Goku 10/08/21 6:38:05 PM #45: |
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Strider102 10/08/21 6:49:13 PM #46: |
https://youtu.be/EpVbB2L74lc
https://youtu.be/H1PTN0Zdy7E https://youtu.be/vNyWsAVWXnI https://youtu.be/MkeZSJaab-g https://youtu.be/Hmue1JyFnu4 https://youtu.be/JBbpxVVk3zU https://youtu.be/A4q_tjYRWTI https://youtu.be/KsViq-AT0eA https://youtu.be/CT5u96tBtD0 https://youtu.be/5LbW-LnA4RY --- Last Cloudia ID: 188850453 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rharyx211 10/10/21 3:22:47 PM #47: |
loafy013 posted...
instead of the game having some sort of explanation as to who the people are.Honestly, the game spends a frustrating amount of time recapping the plots of previous games. To the point it gets annoying to someone who's actually played those games. Half of Riku and Mickey's scenes are them just standing around spouting exposition to themselves for the sake of audience. --- Watch "Final Fantasy XV Abridged" and "Kingdom Hearts Abridged" right here! https://www.youtube.com/user/mcknett3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tappor 10/10/21 3:28:35 PM #48: |
itt I don't understand it so it's bad
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Hambo the Hog 10/10/21 3:29:43 PM #49: |
Rharyx211 posted...
Honestly, the game spends a frustrating amount of time recapping the plots of previous games. To the point it gets annoying to someone who's actually played those games.It's a lose-lose situation when you release crucial plot point in forty different games and rereleases across ten different platforms and a drip-feed mobile game over the course of fifteen years. Either you recap everything in a big confusing exposition dump that wastes time in the current game, or you just leave everyone who didn't buy every final mix and keep up with the mobile game and read all the Nomura interviews to drown. --- I'm sorry, but 10,000 of ANYTHING on a PS2 would absolutely destroy your framerate. It'd be like playing chess through the mail. ~johnboy1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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geshkigal 10/10/21 3:36:40 PM #50: |
Got tired of clicking all these links to see if the dunkey vid was posted, so here ya go:
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