Current Events > Dave Chappelle announces he's a TERF

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CapnMuffin
10/07/21 1:13:20 PM
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Chappelle further admits that he didnt get sick at all from contracting COVID, calling himself the Magic Johnson of coronavirus, but that he did get stressed out by watching so many videos of Black people beating up Asians on the streets during the pandemicbefore cracking, I couldnt help but feel like, when I saw these brothers beating these Asians up, thats probably whats happening inside of my body.

lol, I have to admit hes good at riding that border of hilarious and offensive
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EmetSelch
10/07/21 1:16:33 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
You're doing that thing where you make an extreme assumption and then dig your claws in deep to resist being moved.

Do you think it's unreasonable for a woman in a women's shelter to maybe perhaps have the sort of trauma that might give her a valid reason to seek the exclusive company of other cis women and their lived experiences?

see, that's the nuance thing that we aren't allowed to consider. If you do, you're a terf. That's the end of it clearly. :v
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Kanaya413
10/07/21 1:20:33 PM
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the article says he hates whites not lgbt
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CyricZ
10/07/21 1:22:30 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
You're doing that thing where you make an extreme assumption and then dig your claws in deep to resist being moved.
And you're doing that thing where you think you've got a way to move me and you never do.

You move.

Do you think it's unreasonable for a woman in a women's shelter to maybe perhaps have the sort of trauma that might give her a valid reason to seek the exclusive company of other cis women and their lived experiences?
Is this an actual thing that happens? If there is trauma that requires someone to seek no one but cis women specifically, I'd be interested to hear about the case. Anonymously, of course. I'm not saying it doesn't, but if you're going to champion this angle, then I'd hope you can reinforce it.

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CyricZ
10/07/21 1:31:17 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
If someone was abused by men and uses that as an excuse to exclude trans women from womens spaces then it means they view trans women as men.
I feel it is possible to be transphobic and also be the victim of trauma.

Everyone's trauma is different and it doesn't make it any less valid no matter if you're a wonderful person or a shit.

That's no cause to blanket ban trans women from women's shelters because there might be someone who's transphobic enough to view trans women as men.

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Smashingpmkns
10/07/21 1:38:17 PM
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Just watched the special. In context of the joke he isn't actually a TERF. He just used it to make fun of Caitlyn Jenner.

The whole transgender section of the special was incredibly hit or miss but I think he closed it out well at least.
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Kanaya413
10/07/21 1:38:51 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Just watched the special. In context of the joke he isn't actually a TERF. He just used it to make fun of Caitlyn Jenner.

The whole transgender section of the special was incredibly hit or miss but I think he closed it out well at least.
Jenner is a bitch and its sad people used her as a trans icon a few years back
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Stewman_Magoo
10/07/21 1:41:20 PM
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EmetSelch
10/07/21 1:42:06 PM
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CyricZ posted...
I feel it is possible to be transphobic and also be the victim of trauma.

Everyone's trauma is different and it doesn't make it any less valid no matter if you're a wonderful person or a shit.

That's no cause to blanket ban trans women from women's shelters because there might be someone who's transphobic enough to view trans women as men.

Just to try and reframe this a bit, are you saying you'd be okay with Christine Chandler being placed in a women's shelter? Just a yes or no please.
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Hummer 2
10/07/21 1:45:04 PM
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He made a lot of salient points during his special.
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HairyQueen
10/07/21 1:53:23 PM
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Wetterdew
10/07/21 1:55:28 PM
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He expects us gay people to stop ragging on da baby and Kevin Hart? Those homophobic morons? Idk as much about da baby but Kevin Hart deserves all of it. No I won't hold back, and fuck you for whining about it David. We aren't "aiming down on your community" when we point out how shitty Kevin Hart is. He might be your friend but he is not the appointed representative of black people, so don't act like us calling him out is unfair to black people.


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silver_stoner
10/07/21 1:56:54 PM
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https://imgur.com/jzU2GaM

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CyricZ
10/07/21 1:57:13 PM
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EmetSelch posted...
Just to try and reframe this a bit, are you saying you'd be okay with Christine Chandler being placed in a women's shelter? Just a yes or no please.
Christine Chandler needs to be placed in prison.

Kids, always be on the watch for people who try to stop you from elaborating on your position by saying "just a yes or no please".

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Gobstoppers12
10/07/21 1:59:48 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Christine Chandler needs to be placed in prison.
Would you feel comfortable putting Christine Chandler in a women's prison given the nature of the charges?

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EmetSelch
10/07/21 2:00:19 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Christine Chandler needs to be placed in prison.

Kids, always be on the watch for people who try to stop you from elaborating on your position by saying "just a yes or no please".

... a women's prison? >_>
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CyricZ
10/07/21 2:00:28 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Would you feel comfortable putting Christine Chandler in a women's prison given the nature of the charges?
Yes.

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EmetSelch
10/07/21 2:03:38 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Yes.

lordy, I feel bad for her cellmate. :v They need to put Christine with someone with a prison nickname like "Large Marge" or something. Someone who can look out for themselves.
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CyricZ
10/07/21 2:07:23 PM
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EmetSelch posted...
lordy, I feel bad for her cellmate. :v They need to put Christine with someone with a prison nickname like "Large Marge" or something. Someone who can look out for themselves.
What kind of people do you think go to prison?

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EmetSelch
10/07/21 2:12:16 PM
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CyricZ posted...
What kind of people do you think go to prison?

I mean, criminals. But just because you're a criminal doesn't mean someone like Christine chan wouldn't be a threat to you. I mean, I'm sure if I ended up in prison I'd end up some big guy's prison wife. :v Let alone if I was some petite little lady.

Like, imagine if that blond lady from orange is the new black ended up sharing a cell with Christine. It'd be a nightmare for her.
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goldenBoi45
10/07/21 2:14:36 PM
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Nice spin, that article was terrible.

The special was brilliant and great. No one is above having their chain jerked and anyone who thinks they are needs to lighten up and stop being a narcissistic perpetual victim

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CyricZ
10/07/21 2:14:53 PM
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EmetSelch posted...
Like, imagine if that blond lady from orange is the new black
That woman is an actor, dude.

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Smashingpmkns
10/07/21 2:15:50 PM
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EmetSelch posted...
Like, imagine if that blond lady from orange is the new black

There's a transgender character in OitNB
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EmetSelch
10/07/21 2:16:43 PM
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CyricZ posted...
That woman is an actor, dude.

yea, but you don't think any small petite women end up in prison? It isn't just big girls getting arrested. Tiny girls do crime too!
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EmetSelch
10/07/21 2:22:10 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Are you suggesting we segregate inmates based off their size?

No, no, no. What I'm saying is, putting sex pests like Christine into a women's prison seems like a recipe for disaster. She sexually assaulted her own mother. I wouldn't blame any woman for being nervous around her in the slammer. Can you?

I guess my view is just anti-sex pest. I'm sure there are trans women who aren't sex pests who would do perfectly fine in a female prison, and that's where they belong. But Christine??? No. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, felon or not.
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Muflaggin
10/07/21 2:25:55 PM
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We want equality and to be treated the same, but don't make fun of us and please give us special treatment!

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Smackems
10/07/21 2:27:27 PM
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What a dumb bunch of horse shit lol

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CyricZ
10/07/21 2:29:02 PM
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Muflaggin posted...
We want equality and to be treated the same, but don't make fun of us and please give us special treatment!
For most people "treat me the same as everyone else" carries the implication of "not like an asshole" but I guess some people need to be told specifically. Gamers, am I right?

EDIT: I suppose I can also reference that James Acaster bit at the end. You shouldn't treat everyone the same. For people who are shits, you can treat them more harshly.

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goldenBoi45
10/07/21 2:31:11 PM
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Did any of you who are trying to drag Chappelle's name actually watch the special? It was one of the most anti transphobic specials he's ever done

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sktgamer_13dude
10/07/21 2:33:29 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...

Then your argument is stupid. You have no idea what youre trying to say.

Dont worry, Cyric will just tell him what hes thinking. Because thats Cyrics gimmick is to straw man what people say as gotchas because he thinks his shit doesnt stink.

I will die on the hill that the only stupid things Dave said this special was the Im team TERF because of topics like this that take sound bites and add their own context and him defending DaBaby because even though he was just using him (and Kevin Hart) as a scapegoat for the black community, he probably wasnt worth defending.

You can find him unfunny but to think that Dave is is legitimately transphobic in the fuck trans people way, then you never listened to his actual act and made it up in your head. Someone who hates trans people doesnt do what he did for Daphne.
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EmetSelch
10/07/21 2:34:31 PM
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I never claimed to know what I'm saying or that I have all the answers. :v I just think it's a complicated situation.
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DowntownMrSmith
10/07/21 2:34:38 PM
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Why is everyone so obsessed with trans people, when they are .1% of the population? Is anyone else just sick of hearing about them?
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HairyQueen
10/07/21 2:38:38 PM
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CyricZ posted...
For most people "treat me the same as everyone else" carries the implication of "not like an asshole" but I guess some people need to be told specifically. Gamers, am I right?

EDIT: I suppose I can also reference that James Acaster bit at the end. You shouldn't treat everyone the same. For people who are shits, you can treat them more harshly.
Not only that, but trans people arent treated equally by the law or by society, not by a long shot. They arent given the same amount of basic dignity and respect as cis people are, and theyre vilified and scapegoated by governments, religions, and bigoted cishets all over the damn globe.
Theyre murdered, disowned, and assaulted at grossly disproportionate rates, and conservative legislatures around the country make it a priority to push trans kids to suicide every chance they get.

So once that disparity is corrected, then that piss poor argument they were making might have some merit.

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CyricZ
10/07/21 2:39:10 PM
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"Cyric tells everyone what they're thinking" says a man who is telling me what I'm thinking.

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sktgamer_13dude
10/07/21 2:46:57 PM
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CyricZ posted...
"Cyric tells everyone what they're thinking" says a man who is telling me what I'm thinking.

Im just waiting for you to bring up personal shit in an argument like your friends joestar and negi do. I mean, you defend everything they do, its time for them to start defending you.
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CyricZ
10/07/21 2:51:59 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Im just waiting for you to bring up personal shit in an argument like your friends joestar and negi do. I mean, you defend everything they do, its time for them to start defending you.
This is not you getting personal?

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sktgamer_13dude
10/07/21 2:54:41 PM
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CyricZ posted...

This is not you getting personal?

Me saying you defend posters isnt the same as negi bringing up dead loved ones to win arguments, but Im not really surprised you lack the critical thinking skills to understand that. Considering you defended negi too when they did that. Again, not surprised.

But please, continue to prove my point for me, Cyric. Continue to not actually discuss my initial post besides oh no, he made my feels hurt!
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CyricZ
10/07/21 2:58:50 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
But please, continue to prove my point for me, Cyric. Continue to not actually discuss my initial post besides oh no, he made my feels hurt!
Oh it's okay when you do it.

EDIT: Also your first sentence was an attempt to hurt my feelings, so I don't know what you're expecting. Honestly I don't owe you shit.

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sktgamer_13dude
10/07/21 3:14:55 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...

You gotta see the hypocrisy in this, right?

Me saying you defend posters isnt the same as negi bringing up dead loved ones to win arguments, but Im not really surprised you lack the critical thinking skills to understand that.


CyricZ posted...

Oh it's okay when you do it.

EDIT: Also your first sentence was an attempt to hurt my feelings, so I don't know what you're expecting. Honestly I don't owe you shit.


But please, continue to prove my point for me, Cyric. Continue to not actually discuss my initial post besides oh no, he made my feels hurt!

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Flauros
10/07/21 3:16:57 PM
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sktgamer_13dude
10/07/21 3:45:47 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Youre not proving anyone wrong. Youre going off on a weird personal tangent on Cyric because apparently someone else did it to you.

I will die on the hill that the only stupid things Dave said this special was the Im team TERF because of topics like this that take sound bites and add their own context and him defending DaBaby because even though he was just using him (and Kevin Hart) as a scapegoat for the black community, he probably wasnt worth defending.

You can find him unfunny but to think that Dave is is legitimately transphobic in the fuck trans people way, then you never listened to his actual act and made it up in your head. Someone who hates trans people doesnt do what he did for Daphne.


Weird how I posted this and neither of you actually commented on it. You just only attacked the smaller paragraph about Cyric. But no, Im the one going off on weird tangents. Oh wait, thats you guys.
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Tappor
10/07/21 3:52:30 PM
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Flauros posted...
People are still on this?

Its time to let it go.
yes because it generates replies

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ColdOne666
10/07/21 3:54:24 PM
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UndefeatedGOAT posted...
Its essentially holding the traditional view of gender and sex and not the one from 3 years ago we have to believe

lol

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PlsGodDontBanMe
10/07/21 4:52:33 PM
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another day, another weird hill for cyric to die on.

Also the special was hilarious and once again, Dave is spot on.

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