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SSJ_Goku
10/05/21 2:05:29 PM
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RIP spongebob

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Mezcla
10/05/21 2:07:37 PM
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is that out yet?

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Blue_Inigo
10/05/21 2:08:13 PM
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One_Day_Remains
10/05/21 2:10:42 PM
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These two games are hardly competing with each other. Nick All-Stars is just fulfilling a specific niche that Sora being in Smash doesn't take away from
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Oubliettes
10/05/21 2:14:45 PM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
These two games are hardly competing with each other. Nick All-Stars is just fulfilling a specific niche that Sora being in Smash doesn't take away from


idk i feel like theres a significant overlap in the "sad mid 30s dude with nothing to live for but vidya" demographic, even if thats the only one NASB appeals to

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Jabodie
10/05/21 2:16:58 PM
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Oubliettes posted...
idk i feel like theres a significant overlap in the "sad mid 30s dude with nothing to live for but vidya" demographic, even if thats the only one NASB appeals to
Nick all stars is basically trying to appeal to melee elitists from what I've seen

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Background_Guy
10/05/21 2:18:53 PM
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CE is acting like a bunch of passive aggressive churchwives over the funny children cartoon game
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Oubliettes
10/05/21 2:23:31 PM
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Jabodie posted...
melee elitists


sad mid 30s dudes with nothing to live for but vidya?

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One_Day_Remains
10/05/21 2:25:19 PM
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Oh that's what this is all about eh. The Melee fans
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Arcanine2009
10/05/21 2:27:22 PM
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Nick all stars may not be as flashy as smash Bros, but all it needs imo is voice work and some other stuff like fighting with items for casuals.

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FortuneCookie
10/05/21 2:28:47 PM
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It would be AMAZING if Geno appeared in Nick All-Stars 2.
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Tyranthraxus
10/05/21 2:30:10 PM
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Jabodie posted...
Nick all stars is basically trying to appeal to melee elitists from what I've seen
This exactly. I suspect we'll see a lot of the same people in both games.

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Solar_Crimson
10/05/21 2:32:16 PM
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Jabodie posted...
Nick all stars is basically trying to appeal to melee elitists from what I've seen
Yeah, same.

Arcanine2009 posted...
Nick all stars may not be as flashy as smash Bros, but all it needs imo is voice work and some other stuff like fighting with items for casuals.
Wow, it really doesn't have items? Yeah, they definitely leaned way too far into the competitive side instead of trying to strike a balance (especially since lots of kids will also be interested).

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Tyranthraxus
10/05/21 2:33:35 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Yeah, same.

Wow, it really doesn't have items? Yeah, they definitely leaned way too far into the competitive side instead of trying to strike a balance (especially since lots of kids will also be interested).

Kids won't be playing competitively so it doesn't matter they won't get ToD Shine combos with powdered toastman

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One_Day_Remains
10/05/21 2:42:32 PM
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That's actually super weird that it doesn't have items. Lot of missed crossover potential there
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Delirious_Beard
10/05/21 11:27:18 PM
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the audience for nick all stars is almost entirely competitive platform fighter fans, which is very niche

anyone who ever thought it would kill smash is completely deluded, but it should enjoy a decent enough slice of the platform fighter pie. the devs have also said they might be able to add a bunch of stuff over after 6 months or more

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FL81
10/05/21 11:28:17 PM
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Honestly RoA is still the best competitive Smash clone

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Ratchetrockon
10/05/21 11:29:43 PM
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will nick all stars be at evo

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Kisai
10/05/21 11:31:12 PM
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Nick All-Stars killed itself.

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AzurexNightmare
10/05/21 11:40:28 PM
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No.

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SF_Okami
10/05/21 11:40:52 PM
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Sora makes me want Nick All-Stars, not smash, more honestly,

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Dakimakura
10/05/21 11:41:57 PM
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MrNintendo1213
10/06/21 12:14:42 AM
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Wait that nick game is trying to be for hardcore melee people?? How does that make any sense at all. I assumed it was just shovelware casual whatever for kids.
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A_Field_Lover
10/06/21 12:15:23 AM
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MrNintendo1213 posted...
Wait that nick game is trying to be for hardcore melee people?? How does that make any sense at all. I assumed it was just shovelware casual whatever for kids.
It's not. It long aimed to be a competitive game and it succeeded.

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Solar_Crimson
10/06/21 12:17:43 AM
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MrNintendo1213 posted...
Wait that nick game is trying to be for hardcore melee people?? How does that make any sense at all. I assumed it was just shovelware casual whatever for kids.
It's trying so hard that they didn't even add items to it or, from what I hear, any other modes aside from Vs.

Completely missed the point of a game like this, which is its appeal to casuals. Especially considering that this is Nick, and it is featuring some newer characters in it.

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KobeSystem
10/06/21 12:46:32 AM
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Prestoff
10/06/21 12:49:53 AM
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Dakimakura posted...
Nick All-Stars couldn't have picked a better release day

Nick All Star announced their release date first before Nintendo did, so either bad coincidence or done on purpose...

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A_Field_Lover
10/06/21 3:41:57 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
It's trying so hard that they didn't even add items to it or, from what I hear, any other modes aside from Vs.

Completely missed the point of a game like this, which is its appeal to casuals. Especially considering that this is Nick, and it is featuring some newer characters in it.
Arcade Mode and Sports Ball is a thing, there's not JUST versus and online.

And no, a game like this would only survive and be remembered fondly if it focused on the gameplay and having it be good as possible. Which works because it's buttery smooth. PunchTime Explosion prioritized the opposite of NASB, flopped, and is consistently made fun of.

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dancing_cactuar
10/06/21 4:01:17 AM
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MrNintendo1213 posted...
Wait that nick game is trying to be for hardcore melee people?? How does that make any sense at all. I assumed it was just shovelware casual whatever for kids.
It's a game made for hardcore melee people with the budget of a shovelware casual whatever for kids.

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gunplagirl
10/06/21 4:04:39 AM
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Nick all stars data miners found stuff for Garfield. Therefore, the victory goes to Nick.

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ShyOx
10/06/21 4:05:41 AM
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FL81 posted...
Honestly RoA is still the best competitive Smash clone
wut?

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Irony
10/06/21 4:44:32 AM
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Oubliettes posted...
sad mid 30s dudes with nothing to live for but vidya?
That's all people that still play Smash

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ZevLoveDOOM
10/06/21 4:47:30 AM
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typical Nintendo.

instead of giving us Gex or Bubsy, they give us yet another weeb warrior... smh -_-

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kawalimus
10/06/21 5:06:11 AM
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PiOverlord
10/06/21 5:11:01 AM
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I have to concur with people that agree they chose right with NASB. The devs put all their marbles in gameplay, and that's what they need to do to build a brand. If the game is fun, people will come to play. It doesn't hurt to have iconic characters either since that gives the game built-in branding.

They were never going to be able to compete with Nintendo in terms of flashiness and style compared to Ultimate. Ultimate just has too big of a budget compared to NASB for them to be able to do that. Even if the devs focused entirely on VA/graphics/etc., people would have still called it lazy and cheap-looking. The difference is, people would also call it boring. At least now they have a chance for their game to be called fun.

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A_Field_Lover
10/06/21 1:39:38 PM
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PiOverlord posted...
I have to concur with people that agree they chose right with NASB. The devs put all their marbles in gameplay, and that's what they need to do to build a brand. If the game is fun, people will come to play. It doesn't hurt to have iconic characters either since that gives the game built-in branding.

They were never going to be able to compete with Nintendo in terms of flashiness and style compared to Ultimate. Ultimate just has too big of a budget compared to NASB for them to be able to do that. Even if the devs focused entirely on VA/graphics/etc., people would have still called it lazy and cheap-looking. The difference is, people would also call it boring. At least now they have a chance for their game to be called fun.
Exactly, that's what these haters don't get. Cartoon Network was in the exact same boat, prioritized VAs and modes more than gameplay, and everyone hated it anyway. NASB did the right choice on focusing on making their game work first and foremost.

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Prestoff
10/06/21 3:04:51 PM
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It's an interesting strategy, but the complaints are still valid. I just hope for future patches to complete the package more.

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