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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 9:50:04 AM
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This is a crude MS Paint drawing of my area. My house is kind of centered. It's a small two story house where the first floor is an apartment that I rent out and is currently occupied by an early 20's dude and his girlfriend. I live in the upstairs which can only be accessed by the stairs on the left side of the house which goes up to the deck and the entry to my apartment.

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September 28th at 8:45 PM my neighbor (observant neighbor) comes up my steps and knocks on my door. He tells me that a few minutes earlier his wife, who was outside smoking a cigarette, saw some guy walking around my house and looking in my windows. He tells me he knows I have a video camera so I should probably check it out. I pull up this footage from 8:38 PM (7 minutes earlier.)

https://video.nest.com/clip/42bb568a2a684bd5825ce845c5f19646.mp4

It appears he is just walking along the little sidewalk (which is actually NOT a public sidewalk) and looking in the window (into the downstairs, they have blinds that were shut) before sitting down on my deck step for a few seconds. He then gets up and leaves. Neighbors wife thinks she made a noise and it scared him off but who knows. Kind of weird, but I live 2 blocks from a bar so i'm not terribly concerned. I chalk it up to a drunk dude.

The next day, September 29, I kind of forgot about it. I check my camera footage to make sure he didn't come back again the previous night and he didn't. The day comes to an end, I crawl into bed around 11:30 and I am asleep by 12:30.

September 30 I'm trying to kill 20 minutes until I leave work to head home. I decide to check my camera footage from the previous night (September 29th, the day AFTER the first night he came.) I find two pieces of captured footage.

At 12:07 AM (September 29/September 30) it captures this:
https://video.nest.com/clip/f5a9831341054c4e975ed4b87067e216.mp4

That APPEARS to be the exact same dude in the same clothes coming out from under the deck and walking up the stairs to my apartment. I'm not sure where he came from. Where he was coming from is a little window that looks into the downstairs apartment so maybe he was peeping into there. The only items I have on my deck currently are a grill and an old Adirondack chair. There's nothing to steal.

At 12:31 AM the camera captures this:
https://video.nest.com/clip/8fb27ca68a794b459819a7b9eea0599a.mp4

The dude is walking down my deck stairs. He was up there for 24 minutes. I have absolutely no clue what he was doing. There's two windows up on the deck that look inside to my apartment. One has a blind on it so you can't see through the living room into my bedroom. The other is just a tiny little window that lets you look into my kitchen.

So, last night I get my handgun and make sure it's nearby. I sleep on the couch in the living room to make sure I can hear the door handle if he's trying to break in or something. Camera didn't capture anything overnight.

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So yeah, this is fucking weird. I'm willing to let it go once, like I said I live near a bar and it wouldn't be that big of a shock if I find a drunk dude wandering around late at night because he's too drunk. I don't like it, but it's expected kind of. Two nights in a row? Nah, that's on purpose. This dude has to be casing the place.

I've been debating if I should call a non-emergency police number and let them know about a prowler. We don't have town cops (it's a small tiny ass redneck town) so it would have to be the state police that did anything. Realistically all they could do is drive by once a night and that's about it.


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Stalolin
10/01/21 9:52:02 AM
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Tag.

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Despised
10/01/21 9:53:50 AM
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Put a sticky note on your door that says stop et

But seriously hope he fucks off

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 9:55:28 AM
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I'll be honest, I was slightly scared last night. There's only one entrance in and out of my aparement really so if the dude is aggressive and trying to break down my door or something there is NOWHERE for me to hide inside. It's going to be a confrontation if he does it. I'm going to be keeping an eye out again tonight.

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Number090684
10/01/21 9:57:34 AM
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Call the police and show them the footage if possible. Chances are this guy, who may be drunk, is also a repeat offender looking to fund his alcoholism with stolen goods and they may already know who he is. Nice of you to be prepared too. Can't do nothing and let these scumbags take over the neighborhood. Consider getting a gun if you don't already have one.
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BlockAddition
10/01/21 9:57:53 AM
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Is this another one of those threads where OP posts creepy shit then one day he just stops posting and is never heard from again?

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chrono625
10/01/21 9:58:21 AM
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Id let the cops know in advance.

in case there is a break in and you defend yourself you can at least have a history of notifying the authorities and it would help you as it wasnt just a mistake on the intruders part.

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Crescente
10/01/21 10:00:14 AM
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Good luck TC. You should totally try to confront the guy if possible.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 10:01:51 AM
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Number090684 posted...
Call the police and show them the footage if possible. Chances are this guy, who may be drunk, is also a repeat offender looking to fund his alcoholism with stolen goods and they may already know who he is.


chrono625 posted...
Id let the cops know in advance.

in case there is a break in and you defend yourself you can at least have a history of notifying the authorities and it would help you as it wasnt just a mistake on the intruders part.


I've really been debating it. I wish I had a cop buddy I could ask his/her opinion. It probably is better if I do give them a heads up.

Number090684 posted...
Consider getting a gun if you don't already have one.

I have some already. I took my 9mm out of the case and kept it near me when I slept last night. I have a shotgun too but it needs a new firing pin or something so that won't work.

BlockAddition posted...
Is this another one of those threads where OP posts creepy shit then one day he just stops posting and is never heard from again?

Nah. I really only check GameFAQs while I'm bored at work so after today I won't post again until monday anyways, but I won't try to turn this into a creepypasta.

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bulletproofvita
10/01/21 10:02:17 AM
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that is scary, at least you have some protection

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 10:03:39 AM
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Crescente posted...
Good luck TC. You should totally try to confront the guy if possible.

My ONLY concern with that is if I do confront him, especially outside, it would get rid of any claims of self defense. The whole "you can shoot someone trying to rob you" isn't as simple as people make it seem. As I understand it, if you actually go out and put yourself in potential harms way you may be partially at fault and can't claim self defense. If he broke into my house it's a different matter.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/01/21 10:04:18 AM
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We don't have town cops (it's a small tiny ass redneck town) so it would have to be the state police that did anything.

Not even County Police?

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Weezy_Tha_Don
10/01/21 10:04:43 AM
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as long as youve got your piece, all hes gonna get is holes

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Legato-and-Vash
10/01/21 10:04:46 AM
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BlockAddition posted...
Is this another one of those threads where OP posts creepy shit then one day he just stops posting and is never heard from again?
From my experience, they usually never post actual evidence.

On topic TC, maybe you should leave a note that says "You're on camera" or something? Although I fear that may just have him use a ski mask if he does decide to rob anyway.

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trappedunderice
10/01/21 10:05:50 AM
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Better call strikegently for back up.
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Despised
10/01/21 10:07:17 AM
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Better yet print a picture of him on camera and post that on the outside as a you're on camera sign

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LeadPipeCinche
10/01/21 10:10:40 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
I'll be honest, I was slightly scared last night. There's only one entrance in and out of my aparement really so if the dude is aggressive and trying to break down my door or something there is NOWHERE for me to hide inside. It's going to be a confrontation if he does it. I'm going to be keeping an eye out again tonight.


As soon as he tries to break in you have every right to make him never breath again. Just make sure when the body falls its inside the apartment or you'll have to drag dead weight inside.

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BuckVanHammer
10/01/21 10:10:42 AM
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how long have you lived there? maybe the dude is familiar with a previous tenant?

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 10:12:41 AM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Not even County Police?

Nope. That isn't really a thing in PA. We have county sheriffs but as I understand it they do prisoner transports and serve eviction papers. Nothing serious.

Legato-and-Vash posted...
On topic TC, maybe you should leave a note that says "You're on camera" or something?

Despised posted...
Better yet print a picture of him on camera and post that on the outside as a you're on camera sign

I've thought about it. Put a sticky note in the window that says "hey dumbass, there's a camera"

trappedunderice posted...
Better call strikegently for back up.

He might be good, but Squadder would be better. He would see the dude and shout "PUT UP YOUR DUKES"

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TheOtherMike
10/01/21 10:13:32 AM
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Despised posted...
Better yet print a picture of him on camera and post that on the outside as a you're on camera sign

This, seriously. If he knows he's being watched that's a major deterrent. Also a good idea to show the footage to police like people have said.
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XxKrebsxX
10/01/21 10:16:59 AM
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Please tell me you live in a state that legally allows you to put one between his eyes if he breaks in.
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 10:20:03 AM
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XxKrebsxX posted...
Please tell me you live in a state that legally allows you to put one between his eyes if he breaks in.

Pennsylvania. I can. I think the law basics are I have to have a credible fear and that the such force is immediately necessary to protect myself from unlawful force.

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SSJ_Goku
10/01/21 10:44:55 AM
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Is he homeless or something?

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 10:47:23 AM
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SSJ_Goku posted...
Is he homeless or something?

I wouldn't think so. I've never seen what I would think is a homeless person in town. It is a town along the Appalachian Trail where we regularly get people stopping for the night but not usually two nights. And I know what hikers carry and he wasn't wearing stuff that someone would carry hiking the AT (big burly hoodie, cargo shorts and slide sandals)

Edit: Although we did recently have a homeless man make national media coverage with that dude who was arrested for stealing 43 cents of Mountain Dew. But the dude had a car and I don't think he actually lived in town.

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Trumpo
10/01/21 10:48:36 AM
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A pitbull will deter the intruder
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monkmith
10/01/21 10:53:13 AM
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call the cops and send them the videos. then print out photos and post them around your neighborhood.

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Returning_CEmen
10/01/21 10:59:17 AM
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Tag

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CommonStar
10/01/21 11:13:37 AM
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Jump scare him the next time he looks through the window.
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s0nicfan
10/01/21 11:15:51 AM
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TC, you know what you have to do


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Naysaspace
10/01/21 11:17:30 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
So, last night I get my handgun
ohhhhh jaysush

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 11:19:49 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
TC, you know what you have to do


LOL i was texting my buddies about this last night and it was like 5 hours before the time he had shown up the night before. I said I had 5 hours to plan and sent a picture of Kevin's map he used.

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Swagnet0
10/01/21 11:20:49 AM
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surprise his ass and fuck him up

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 11:28:03 AM
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I'm calling the non-emergency police number to make them aware right now.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 11:31:33 AM
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The State Police told me to call again when I get home because they will send an officer out to take statements, review the footage and get an investigation started.

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PatrickMahomes
10/01/21 11:37:22 AM
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you made the right choice by calling. still be sure to keep the gun nearby in case it happens again.

being in a small redneck town might serve you well too, they might have nothing going on and be able to send someone to just kinda chill and watch

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 11:41:39 AM
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I figured I was going to eventually call. My main concern is if the dude does unlock the door and come in somehow the police will want to know why I didn't call them after I first noticed it and they may think I actually wanted the guy to show up so I could shoot him or something. I'm just trying to cover my ass.

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PatrickMahomes
10/01/21 11:43:16 AM
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WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...
I figured I was going to eventually call. My main concern is if the dude does unlock the door and come in somehow the police will want to know why I didn't call them after I first noticed it and they may think I actually wanted the guy to show up so I could shoot him or something. I'm just trying to cover my ass.
Yeah for sure. Sounds like you're doing everything right so far. Just stay alert.

Do the downstairs people have anything to say or do you not interact with them much

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 11:46:52 AM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
Yeah for sure. Sounds like you're doing everything right so far. Just stay alert.

Do the downstairs people have anything to say or do you not interact with them much

They are my tenants. I rent out the bottom half of my house to them. There's currently no way to get from the downstairs to the upstairs from inside the house.

I didn't tell them about the first time he showed up until I saw the footage of the second time when he came up on my deck. I showed them everything yesterday and told them to make sure the blinds are shut and their doors are locked. I know the guy who lives downstairs with his girlfriend owns a few guns because he's a hunter. He told me he periodically got up last night and looked outside to see if he saw anything.

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NoxObscuras
10/01/21 12:10:04 PM
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Yeah, calling the police was the right move. And honestly, if he's casing your house, he's likely looking for a time to break-in when you're not home.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 12:16:08 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Yeah, calling the police was the right move. And honestly, if he's casing your house, he's likely looking for a time to break-in when you're not home.

Yeah I have been keeping my camera feed in the corner of my second monitor while I'm at work.

My guess, is that if he is casing the place to rob it later he isn't aware that it's two apartments. He probably thinks the people sleep downstairs and there's an office or other stuff in the upstairs so he hopes to enter via the doorway that leads to the upstairs. Well, it actually enters into my kitchen and I can see the door from my bed. These two apartments are basically studio apartments. They are tiny.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 12:17:47 PM
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Revnir posted...
Half of CE probably low-key wishes you got robbed just because you're a landlord

Hahaha probably. In my defense though, I bought this house with two apartments because I live by myself and don't need a lot of space so I am renting out the other part. I'm not ripping them off or anything, they are getting a below market rent price. I don't own 10 of these buildings and not live in them or anything.

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TldrReturns
10/01/21 12:19:09 PM
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Yeah, show the police the footage. And keep your gun within reach.

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spikethedevil
10/01/21 12:33:54 PM
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Yeah show the police.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/01/21 1:17:33 PM
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Hide somewhere and then creep up on him from behind and ask him what's the deal.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 1:34:44 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Hide somewhere and then creep up on him from behind and ask him what's the deal.

I've been planning out what I will do in certain situations with this. Like he's looking at something else and I sneak out the door and just show up beside him, put a bullet in the chamber so he hears it (and put the safety back on) and ask him what he needs help with.

Realistically though that's probably just asking for something bad to happen and I will just call the cops if he's outside the house. If he's INSIDE the house there's nowhere to hide. It's basically a studio apartment but does have a dividing wall, but no door, between the kitchen/living room and the bedroom and bathroom area. I'm forced to confront him if he comes inside.

I drew up a quick MS Paint drawing to show how my apartment looks. The window on the left is the little tiny one you see in the corner of the videos. I didn't draw everything like closets and other windows and it's just a quick thing but it should give you an idea. But as you can see there's really nowhere for me to hide except maybe in the bathroom. But that isn't a lockable door or anything.

If he's looking inside he can only look in from the small window on the left. The one on the right has a blind on it and my AC unit is in the window currently. He's limited on what he can see because of the angle.

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SoggyBottomBoy
10/01/21 1:35:42 PM
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You have us the information to rob you

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
10/01/21 1:42:04 PM
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SoggyBottomBoy posted...
You have us the information to rob you

Haha I get your point. Realistically though all I have really said is the state I live in so it's not like anyone can find it. Bonus: I have an indoor camera that's filming when I am not home as well. It is built into the Google Nest Hub or whatever it's called. So if you know the camera outside is there you can avoid it but you can't avoid the inside one.

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