Current Events > Misinformation and flat-out lies should be censored.

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HylianFox 09/29/21 3:04:30 PM #1:	Remember when this country had integrity? Or at least tried to... --- This is my signature until I can think of a better one. <cite>HylianFox posted [p:958533181] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Remember when this country had integrity? Or at least tried to... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 09/29/21 3:05:44 PM #2:	This includes some major news organizations First amendment shouldn't be a free pass to blatantly lie to half the population --- MSI MEG X570 Unify \| Ryzen 7 5800X \| 32GB DDR4-3600 \| RTX 3080 Samsung Odyssey G7 32" - 1440p, 240hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:958533211] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>This includes some major news organizations First amendment shouldn't be a free pass to blatantly lie to half the population </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 09/29/21 3:07:10 PM #3:	foxnews,newsmax,oan would be shut down <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:958533239] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>foxnews,newsmax,oan would be shut down </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 09/29/21 3:08:33 PM #4:	CADE FOSTER posted... foxnews,newsmax,oan would be shut down if they had been stopped 20 years ago, our country would be in a far better place today. they are largely responsible for shutting down critical thinking in so many boomers. --- My dumb macbook pro has broken L and T keys because apple prioritized thinness over a keyboard that doesn't break. Hence the typos in my comments til it's fixed <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:958533271] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>CADE FOSTER posted... </cite> <quote>foxnews,newsmax,oan would be shut down</quote>if they had been stopped 20 years ago, our country would be in a far better place today. they are largely responsible for shutting down critical thinking in so many boomers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WeeWeiWiiWie 09/29/21 3:09:36 PM #5:	Yup. --- Stabilized. COVxy alt. <cite>WeeWeiWiiWie posted [p:958533302] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Yup. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE FOSTER 09/29/21 3:10:13 PM #6:	Wetterdew posted... if they had been stopped 20 years ago, our country would be in a far better place today. they are largely responsible for shutting down critical thinking in so many boomers. well facebook,twitter still exist so def not <cite>CADE FOSTER posted [p:958533325] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>if they had been stopped 20 years ago, our country would be in a far better place today. they are largely responsible for shutting down critical thinking in so many boomers.</quote>well facebook,twitter still exist so def not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 09/29/21 3:11:17 PM #7:	Who gets to decide what is misinformation? --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:958533356] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Who gets to decide what is misinformation? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/29/21 4:09:53 PM #9:	[Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy disliked that] <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:958534937] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>[Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy disliked that] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 09/29/21 4:10:31 PM #10:	Freedom of DA PRESS!!!!! --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:958534952] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Freedom of DA PRESS!!!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stewman_Magoo 09/29/21 4:12:35 PM #11:	But muh freeze peach! --- PSN Stewman_Magoo <cite>Stewman_Magoo posted [p:958535006] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>But muh freeze peach! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wetterdew 09/30/21 2:30:21 AM #12:	CADE FOSTER posted... well facebook,twitter still exist so def not I still think the sewage coming from conservative pundits for decades is the main original problem. If those people had entered the internet age with healthy minds, social media wouldn't have become as toxic as it is now. --- My dumb macbook pro has broken L and T keys because apple prioritized thinness over a keyboard that doesn't break. Hence the typos in my comments til it's fixed <cite>Wetterdew posted [p:958550634] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>CADE FOSTER posted... </cite> <quote>well facebook,twitter still exist so def not</quote>I still think the sewage coming from conservative pundits for decades is the main original problem. If those people had entered the internet age with healthy minds, social media wouldn't have become as toxic as it is now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 09/30/21 2:47:37 AM #13:	Wetterdew posted... if they had been stopped 20 years ago, our country would be in a far better place today. they are largely responsible for shutting down critical thinking in so many boomers. Nah. You shut them down, something else would pop up. --- CPU i5 10600k, CPUC evga CLC 280x140, RAM tridentz 3200mhz cl14 32gb, MOBO Asus Rog strix e-gaming, GPU evga fc3 rtx 3070, PSU evga 850w G2, Samsung G7 32in. <cite>yutterh posted [p:958550895] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Wetterdew posted... </cite> <quote>if they had been stopped 20 years ago, our country would be in a far better place today. they are largely responsible for shutting down critical thinking in so many boomers.</quote> Nah. You shut them down, something else would pop up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TetsuoS2 09/30/21 2:49:58 AM #14:	freedom of speech is not freedom of reach --- FGO NA ID: 973,333,976 just an idiot passing through <cite>TetsuoS2 posted [p:958550930] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>freedom of speech is not freedom of reach </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 09/30/21 2:50:45 AM #15:	Squall28 posted... Who gets to decide what is misinformation? Misinformation is telling obvious lies or wrong information. Like 2+2=5 is misinformation. Sure you can make it into a completely different problem by adding random shit to it so 2+2=4 becomes 2+2=5 but it's just math magic. When you do misinformation your convincing others that 2+2=5 either willfully or ignorantly. --- CPU i5 10600k, CPUC evga CLC 280x140, RAM tridentz 3200mhz cl14 32gb, MOBO Asus Rog strix e-gaming, GPU evga fc3 rtx 3070, PSU evga 850w G2, Samsung G7 32in. <cite>yutterh posted [p:958550941] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>Who gets to decide what is misinformation?</quote> Misinformation is telling obvious lies or wrong information. Like 2+2=5 is misinformation. Sure you can make it into a completely different problem by adding random shit to it so 2+2=4 becomes 2+2=5 but it's just math magic. When you do misinformation your convincing others that 2+2=5 either willfully or ignorantly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 09/30/21 9:28:52 AM #16:	yutterh posted... Misinformation is telling obvious lies or wrong information. Like 2+2=5 is misinformation. Sure you can make it into a completely different problem by adding random shit to it so 2+2=4 becomes 2+2=5 but it's just math magic. When you do misinformation your convincing others that 2+2=5 either willfully or ignorantly. I know what misinformation is. My question is who will be the entity that will oversee it. Is the government going to tell us what is true and what is false? With your example, the truth is the truth, but someone has to enforce it. Some organization would have to say hey 2+2 does not equal 5, take it down. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:958555917] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>yutterh posted... </cite> <quote>Misinformation is telling obvious lies or wrong information. Like 2+2=5 is misinformation. Sure you can make it into a completely different problem by adding random shit to it so 2+2=4 becomes 2+2=5 but it's just math magic. When you do misinformation your convincing others that 2+2=5 either willfully or ignorantly.</quote> I know what misinformation is. My question is who will be the entity that will oversee it. Is the government going to tell us what is true and what is false? With your example, the truth is the truth, but someone has to enforce it. Some organization would have to say hey 2+2 does not equal 5, take it down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 09/30/21 9:34:50 AM #17:	"represent all sides!" - not when your side is calling themselves "purebloods" for refusing to get vaccinated. --- I'm gonna burn it all down today, and sweep all the ashes away Now Playing: Pokemon HeartGold, Minecraft, Oldschool Runescape <cite>MrMallard posted [p:958556043] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>"represent all sides!" - not when your side is calling themselves "purebloods" for refusing to get vaccinated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 09/30/21 9:38:06 AM #18:	Squall28 posted... I know what misinformation is. My question is who will be the entity that will oversee it. Is the government going to tell us what is true and what is false? With your example, the truth is the truth, but someone has to enforce it. Some organization would have to go get these guys say 2+2=5, take down the info. We already have fact checkers and when people are literally spouting blatant lies, they should be shut down hard. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:958556105] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>I know what misinformation is. My question is who will be the entity that will oversee it. Is the government going to tell us what is true and what is false? With your example, the truth is the truth, but someone has to enforce it. Some organization would have to go get these guys say 2+2=5, take down the info.</quote> We already have fact checkers and when people are literally spouting blatant lies, they should be shut down hard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
unnamedsoldier 09/30/21 9:39:58 AM #19:	the CCP would love you guys <cite>unnamedsoldier posted [p:958556147] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>the CCP would love you guys</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 09/30/21 9:41:27 AM #20:	lol no --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:958556173] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>lol no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/30/21 9:41:52 AM #21:	Wasn't there some law that forced news companies to tell the truth? I can't remember but I thought some law was reversed that set us on the path we are today. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! https://imgur.com/TuJWAR8 <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:958556187] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Wasn't there some law that forced news companies to tell the truth? I can't remember but I thought some law was reversed that set us on the path we are today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 09/30/21 9:47:34 AM #22:	If you don't see a problem with the government being able to do this... like wow. LightHawKnight posted... We already have fact checkers and when people are literally spouting blatant lies, they should be shut down hard. So if we gave snopes the power to shut down anything they deemed misinformation, who do you think would control them? --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:958556301] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>If you don't see a problem with the government being able to do this... like wow. LightHawKnight posted... </cite> <quote>We already have fact checkers and when people are literally spouting blatant lies, they should be shut down hard.</quote> So if we gave snopes the power to shut down anything they deemed misinformation, who do you think would control them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/30/21 9:49:30 AM #23:	yemmy posted... If you don't see a problem with the government being able to do this... like wow. The government already has the power to do this. Suggesting that they should do it is just a practical matter. --- Hard times (happiest days of my life) hard times gone by <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:958556342] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>yemmy posted... </cite> <quote>If you don't see a problem with the government being able to do this... like wow.</quote>The government already has the power to do this. Suggesting that they should do it is just a practical matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 09/30/21 9:55:51 AM #24:	yutterh posted... Misinformation is telling obvious lies or wrong information. Like 2+2=5 is misinformation. Sure you can make it into a completely different problem by adding random shit to it so 2+2=4 becomes 2+2=5 but it's just math magic. When you do misinformation your convincing others that 2+2=5 either willfully or ignorantly. Even worse, a lot of the people and corporations pushing this will also say "2+2=5, and the global elite don't want you to know this." --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:958556471] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>yutterh posted... </cite> <quote>Misinformation is telling obvious lies or wrong information. Like 2+2=5 is misinformation. Sure you can make it into a completely different problem by adding random shit to it so 2+2=4 becomes 2+2=5 but it's just math magic. When you do misinformation your convincing others that 2+2=5 either willfully or ignorantly.</quote> Even worse, a lot of the people and corporations pushing this will also say "2+2=5, and the global elite don't want you to know this." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yemmy 09/30/21 9:56:08 AM #25:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... The government already has the power to do this. Suggesting that they should do it is just a practical matter. Their power is pretty limited as far as those matters go. --- p226 <cite>yemmy posted [p:958556478] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted... </cite> <quote>The government already has the power to do this. Suggesting that they should do it is just a practical matter.</quote> Their power is pretty limited as far as those matters go. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 09/30/21 10:17:24 AM #26:	yemmy posted... If you don't see a problem with the government being able to do this... like wow. So if we gave snopes the power to shut down anything they deemed misinformation, who do you think would control them? Snopes isn't the only fact checker. There is a reason why republicans want to punish fact checkers. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:958556906] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>yemmy posted... </cite> <quote>If you don't see a problem with the government being able to do this... like wow. So if we gave snopes the power to shut down anything they deemed misinformation, who do you think would control them?</quote> Snopes isn't the only fact checker. There is a reason why republicans want to punish fact checkers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/30/21 10:21:25 AM #27:	yemmy posted... Their power is pretty limited as far as those matters go. Limited by who? The government? Okay. --- Hard times (happiest days of my life) hard times gone by <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:958557014] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>yemmy posted... </cite> <quote>Their power is pretty limited as far as those matters go.</quote>Limited by who? The government? Okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
unnamedsoldier 09/30/21 10:30:26 AM #28:	People's Republic of America coming soon to a neighborhood near you <cite>unnamedsoldier posted [p:958557212] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>People's Republic of America coming soon to a neighborhood near you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/30/21 10:33:04 AM #29:	unnamedsoldier posted... People's Republic of America coming soon to a neighborhood near you Notice how, to the conservative, good things will result in communism. --- Hard times (happiest days of my life) hard times gone by <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:958557271] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>unnamedsoldier posted... </cite> <quote>People's Republic of America coming soon to a neighborhood near you</quote>Notice how, to the conservative, good things will result in communism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RejecterJecter 09/30/21 10:33:15 AM #30:	HylianFox posted... Remember when this country had integrity? Or at least tried to... So...you're not for Freedom of Speech? I'll pencil you in under "Fascist" <cite>RejecterJecter posted [p:958557279] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite> <quote>Remember when this country had integrity? Or at least tried to...</quote>So...you're not for Freedom of Speech? I'll pencil you in under "Fascist" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
unnamedsoldier 09/30/21 10:36:09 AM #31:	IShall_Run_Amok posted... Notice how, to the conservative, good things will result in communism. Because censorship of things we don't like is totally good <cite>unnamedsoldier posted [p:958557350] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>IShall_Run_Amok posted...</cite> <quote> Notice how, to the conservative, good things will result in communism. </quote> Because censorship of things we don't like is totally good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/30/21 10:37:52 AM #32:	All these freedom fighters are right. Major news networks should be able to tell you to drink cyanide because it is safe and healthy. Who is anyone to determine the truth? The truth is whatever you think it is. You punish dangerous lies and soon saying Nancy Pelosi sucks will get you hanged. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:958557394] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>All these freedom fighters are right. Major news networks should be able to tell you to drink cyanide because it is safe and healthy. Who is anyone to determine the truth? The truth is whatever you think it is. You punish dangerous lies and soon saying Nancy Pelosi sucks will get you hanged. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/30/21 10:39:02 AM #33:	unnamedsoldier posted... Because censorship of things we don't like is totally good If you buy a lawnmower, should the directions tell you to stick your face into the blades? I mean, it's free speech. Censorship of ideas we dislike is wrong. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:958557415] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>unnamedsoldier posted... </cite> <quote>Because censorship of things we don't like is totally good</quote>If you buy a lawnmower, should the directions tell you to stick your face into the blades? I mean, it's free speech. Censorship of ideas we dislike is wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 09/30/21 10:41:04 AM #34:	unnamedsoldier posted... Because censorship of things we don't like is totally good Not to mention there are people on this board who are delusional enough to believe that if the "good guys" are able to choose what should be censored, that they will always stay true Too many Disney movies --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:958557474] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>unnamedsoldier posted... </cite> <quote>Because censorship of things we don't like is totally good</quote> Not to mention there are people on this board who are delusional enough to believe that if the "good guys" are able to choose what should be censored, that they will always stay true Too many Disney movies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/30/21 10:42:26 AM #35:	It's crazy that Donald Trump has broken society to the point where everyone believes truth no longer exists. "NiNeTeEn EiGhTy FoUr!!!!" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:958557510] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>It's crazy that Donald Trump has broken society to the point where everyone believes truth no longer exists. "NiNeTeEn EiGhTy FoUr!!!!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 09/30/21 10:43:11 AM #36:	hockeybub89 posted... Who is anyone to determine the truth? The truth is whatever you think it is. No one said this. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:958557530] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Who is anyone to determine the truth? The truth is whatever you think it is.</quote> No one said this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IShall_Run_Amok 09/30/21 10:43:51 AM #37:	unnamedsoldier posted... Because censorship of things we don't like is totally good Censorship of lies and deliberate misinformation is good, though. And notice, again, how the conservative things that good thinks lead to communism. --- Hard times (happiest days of my life) hard times gone by <cite>IShall_Run_Amok posted [p:958557544] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>unnamedsoldier posted... </cite> <quote>Because censorship of things we don't like is totally good</quote>Censorship of lies and deliberate misinformation is good, though. And notice, again, how the conservative things that good thinks lead to communism. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/30/21 10:46:02 AM #38:	HylianFox posted... Remember when this country had integrity? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:958557581] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>HylianFox posted... </cite> <quote>Remember when this country had integrity?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/30/21 10:47:10 AM #39:	Squall28 posted... No one said this. Everyone is saying you can't "censor" lies because you can't trust the government to push the actual truth. But there is one truth and someone has to enforce it. If not the government, then someone. Multiple realities can't exist at once. Besides, "government" isn't bad. The government is essential for the existence of society and is supposed to be an extension of our will. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:958557614] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>No one said this.</quote>Everyone is saying you can't "censor" lies because you can't trust the government to push the actual truth. But there is one truth and someone has to enforce it. If not the government, then someone. Multiple realities can't exist at once. Besides, "government" isn't bad. The government is essential for the existence of society and is supposed to be an extension of our will. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoggyBottomBoy 09/30/21 10:47:19 AM #40:	Squall28 posted... Who gets to decide what is misinformation? Bruh --- Fingah POP'n each otha's <cite>SoggyBottomBoy posted [p:958557623] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>Who gets to decide what is misinformation?</quote>Bruh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/30/21 10:48:25 AM #41:	Squall28 posted... Who gets to decide what is misinformation? The individual, privately held, platforms. Duh. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:958557650] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>Who gets to decide what is misinformation?</quote>The individual, privately held, platforms. Duh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RejecterJecter 09/30/21 10:49:48 AM #42:	*Misinformation and flat-out lies should* be censored** RejecterJecter posted... So...you're not for Freedom of Speech? I'll pencil you in under "Fascist" <cite>RejecterJecter posted [p:958557674] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Misinformation and flat-out lies should be censored RejecterJecter posted... </cite> <quote>So...you're not for Freedom of Speech? I'll pencil you in under "Fascist"</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
On_The_Edge 09/30/21 10:50:05 AM #43:	You people are insane lmao <cite>On_The_Edge posted [p:958557683] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>You people are insane lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoggyBottomBoy 09/30/21 10:50:41 AM #44:	On_The_Edge posted... You people are insane lmao Stifling harmful lies isnt insane. --- Fingah POP'n each otha's <cite>SoggyBottomBoy posted [p:958557696] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>On_The_Edge posted... </cite> <quote>You people are insane lmao</quote>Stifling harmful lies isnt insane. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 09/30/21 10:50:48 AM #45:	hockeybub89 posted... Everyone is saying you can't "censor" lies because you can't trust the government to push the actual truth. But there is one truth and someone has to enforce it. If not the government, then someone. Multiple realities can't exist at once. Besides, "government" isn't bad. The government is essential for the existence of society and is supposed to be an extension of our will. There is one truth, but we don't know how trustworthy the government will be in enforcing it. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:958557698] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Everyone is saying you can't "censor" lies because you can't trust the government to push the actual truth. But there is one truth and someone has to enforce it. If not the government, then someone. Multiple realities can't exist at once. Besides, "government" isn't bad. The government is essential for the existence of society and is supposed to be an extension of our will.</quote> There is one truth, but we don't know how trustworthy the government will be in enforcing it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RejecterJecter 09/30/21 10:51:24 AM #46:	SoggyBottomBoy posted... Stifling harmful lies isnt insane. You being the arbiter of what is or is not "harmful" lies, is insane. Yes. Like, I'm sorry, but I'd rather not have you - SoggyBottomBoy- be in charge of what is or is not harmful. I'll say what I want, whenever I want. This is America. <cite>RejecterJecter posted [p:958557718] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>SoggyBottomBoy posted... </cite> <quote>Stifling harmful lies isnt insane.</quote> You being the arbiter of what is or is not "harmful" lies, is insane. Yes. Like, I'm sorry, but I'd rather not have you - SoggyBottomBoy- be in charge of what is or is not harmful. I'll say what I want, whenever I want. This is America. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 09/30/21 10:53:13 AM #47:	Fuck no. This is one of the dumbest topics I've ever read. --- Oda break tracker 2021- 6 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 3-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 3-0 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:958557764] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Fuck no. This is one of the dumbest topics I've ever read.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 09/30/21 10:53:52 AM #48:	many nations don't have freedom of speech, period. words can be a powerful tool. you can hurt or heal with them. your words can motivate or discourage. freedom of speech is a powerful tool, and powerful tools require the user to hold a certain level of responsibility. but what do you say to people who actively avoid any sort of personal accountability? deliberately spreading misinformation is an irresponsible(at best) use of freedom of speech, and society should normalize using their freedom of speech to correct those spreading it. those who continue should expect to be criticized and shunned. nobody should feel obligated to placate a liar's feelings for spreading poison. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:958557780] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>many nations don't have freedom of speech, period. words can be a powerful tool. you can hurt or heal with them. your words can motivate or discourage. freedom of speech is a powerful tool, and powerful tools require the user to hold a certain level of responsibility. but what do you say to people who actively avoid any sort of personal accountability? deliberately spreading misinformation is an irresponsible(at best) use of freedom of speech, and society should normalize using their freedom of speech to correct those spreading it. those who continue should expect to be criticized and shunned. nobody should feel obligated to placate a liar's feelings for spreading poison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/30/21 10:54:02 AM #49:	Squall28 posted... There is one truth, but we don't know how trustworthy the government will be in enforcing it. So we need to allow people to spread harmful lies. We need someone to enforce the truth. Who do we trust? And shouldn't we ignore all laws if we truly don't trust the government? Who are they to determine legality or mortality? I didn't vote for all of them. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:958557791] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>Squall28 posted... </cite> <quote>There is one truth, but we don't know how trustworthy the government will be in enforcing it.</quote>So we need to allow people to spread harmful lies. We need someone to enforce the truth. Who do we trust? And shouldn't we ignore all laws if we truly don't trust the government? Who are they to determine legality or mortality? I didn't vote for all of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SoggyBottomBoy 09/30/21 10:54:33 AM #50:	RejecterJecter posted... You being the arbiter of what is or is not "harmful" lies, is insane. Yes. Pretty sure Jan 6th was real-time proof of the kinds of lies Im referring to. This isnt What I deem harmful. --- Fingah POP'n each otha's <cite>SoggyBottomBoy posted [p:958557800] in Misinforma... [t:79685568]...</cite> <quote>RejecterJecter posted... </cite> <quote>You being the arbiter of what is or is not "harmful" lies, is insane. Yes.</quote>Pretty sure Jan 6th was real-time proof of the kinds of lies Im referring to. This isnt What I deem harmful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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