Current Events > Tried getting into Link Between Worlds but gave up because of stupid rental deal

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What a dumbass mechanic to put in. If it isn't broke don't fix it. I'm done with it.

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I never rented any of them. I think you can buy them. It's a dumb mechanic though for sure.

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Explain.

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Don't die?

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This is essentially a remake of Link to the Past

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I never rented anything in that game.

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It's actually really cool. If you want to play the same game over and over and over and over again, then do that.

TheDyslexicGuy posted...

This is essentially a remake of Link to the Past

No it's not, because Link Between Worlds is actually good.
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TheDyslexicGuy posted...

This is essentially a remake of Link to the Past

This is the real problem with it. It's by far the closest a Zelda game has come to straight up reusing a map (though BotW 2 is looking like it might have that beat...)

badjay posted...

Don't die?

This.
The game's difficulty is non-existent, outside of the baseball and chicken-dodging minigames.

Mist_Turnips posted...

No it's not, because Link Between Worlds is actually good.

Bro: Name a game better than LTTP in 1991.

I'll wait.

Mist_Turnips posted...

No it's not, because Link Between Worlds is actually good.

While LBW is good, LttP is better.

TheOtherMike posted...

While LBW is good, LttP is better.

While LttP is good, LBW does everything better.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I never rented anything in that game.

It's impossible to beat the game without renting at least the hammer and the tornado rod at discount though.

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EmbraceOfDeath posted...

While LttP is good, LBW does everything better.

Objectively wrong. The only thing LBW does better is visual and audio quality.

nfearurspecimn posted...

It's impossible to beat the game without renting at least the hammer and the tornado rod at discount though.

I mean technically you rent everything then after you rent it you can buy it.

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LBW is so much better than LTTP. I'm glad we moved past that; I honestly think NES games have aged considerably better than SNES games as a whole for reasons that this topic wasn't made for.

As for this topic, I disagree. It's barely an inconvenience, and you'll be able to buy everything you need pretty quickly. I found it nice that I could just get whatever items I needed right away instead of being forced to go through an overall linear adventure. It allowed me to play the game anyway I wanted to almost.

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lol

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TheOtherMike posted...

Objectively wrong. The only thing LBW does better is visual and audio quality.

Nah. LBW has better combat and restores the open adventure feeling from TLOZ 1.

The paint gimmick was kinda dumb but that's only a minor part of the game.

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The game is already really easy and it's not like you can't just shut off the game before you die if you do happen to die. It's also inconsequential once you're fare enough to buy stuff anyway.

PiOverlord posted...

I honestly think NES games have aged considerably better than SNES games as a whole

Now that's a hot take

Mist_Turnips posted...

No it's not, because Link Between Worlds is actually good.

lol oh you

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Nah. LBW has better combat and restores the open adventure feeling from TLOZ 1.

The combat is basically identical and LttP definitely captures the "open adventure" feeling.

Tyranthraxus posted...

I mean technically you rent everything then after you rent it you can buy it.

no, you can go straight to buy you don't have to rent anything except the hammer and the tornado rod

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Love the humblebrag peeps in here indirectly telling us they never died in the game lol

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PiOverlord posted...

I found it nice that I could just get whatever items I needed right away instead of being forced to go through an overall linear adventure.

The original LOZ was pretty loose about it.

• 1, 2, and 3 can be done in any order.
• 8 can be done after 1.
• 4 can be done after 3.
• 5 can be done after 4.
• 7 can be done after 5.
• 6 can be done after 1 and 3.

Or, the "get the dungeon item and leave" play style is completely possible. There's no plot-gating at all.

TheOtherMike posted...

The combat is basically identical and LttP definitely captures the "open adventure" feeling.

Nope, LttP has no diagonal attacking. The monster physics & behavior is also a little different.

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Rental is fine?

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Questionmarktarius posted...

The original LOZ was pretty loose about it.

* 1, 2, and 3 can be done in any order.
* 8 can be done after 1.
* 4 can be done after 3.
* 5 can be done after 4.
* 7 can be done after 5.
* 6 can be done after 1 and 3.
Or, the "get the dungeon item and leave" play style is completely possible. There's no plot-gating at all.

Yeah, I respect LoZ big-time. Again, there's a lot from the NES that I like more than the SNES.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Nope, LttP has no diagonal attacking. The monster physics & behavior is also a little different.

What do you mean no diagonal attacking? I slash things diagonally all the time. Are you talking about projectile attacks? And of course monster physics and behavior are different - they're different games on different systems. The difference between the combat in both games is negligible at best, and combat as a whole is more satisfying in LttP since they didn't have to dumb down the difficulty in every dungeon to accommodate being able to do them in any order after the first.

TheOtherMike posted...

Are you talking about projectile attacks?

Diagonal boomerang works.

It's really not a big dealbreaker, You can buy all of them anyway

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TheOtherMike posted...

What do you mean no diagonal attacking? I slash things diagonally all the time. Are you talking about projectile attacks? And of course monster physics and behavior are different - they're different games on different systems. The difference between the combat in both games is negligible at best, and combat as a whole is more satisfying in LttP since they didn't have to dumb down the difficulty in every dungeon to accommodate being able to do them in any order after the first.

The sword itself can only slash in cardinal directions. The projectile attacks as well but even the sword is also limited. Going directly from LBW to LttP really exposes how clunky the gameplay was.

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My only complaint about the rental system is that there is no way to auto-rerent upon game over. What's the point of continuing from the dungeon if you just lost some necessary items? Otherwise, I really like the mechanic.

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You can literally buy the weapons lmao. What a crybaby
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TheOtherMike posted...

Objectively wrong. The only thing LBW does better is visual and audio quality.

LBW's story is leaps and bounds above LttP.

I actually cannot think of an appropriate metaphor for how much better LBW's story is. It's probably the strongest story in a Zelda game other than MM.

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I never got past the beginning of the dark world. I can't remember why though

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badjay posted...

Don't die?

Wheres this mentality on your Odr runs @badjay :):):)

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Tyranthraxus posted...

The sword itself can only slash in cardinal directions.

But it still hits enemies diagonally to Link, so idk what you're trying to say here.

Tyranthraxus posted...

Going directly from LBW to LttP really exposes how clunky the gameplay was.

I've done exactly that a few times and there's nothing "clunky" about it.

xXfireglzXx posted...

LBW's story is leaps and bounds above LttP.

Maybe not "leaps and bounds," but I'll definitely concede that the story is better. So horray, LBW improved on the least important element of a Zelda game over LttP?

TheOtherMike posted...

But it still hits enemies diagonally to Link, so idk what you're trying to say here.

I'm saying if you push up + left and slash, you will hit only the 90 degree arc with the center to either the up or left.

In LBW the center of the arc would be angled to the up left.

It makes an enormous difference.


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Tyranthraxus posted...

I'm saying if you push up + left and slash, you will hit only the 90 degree arc with the center to either the up or left.

In LBW the center of the arc would be angled to the up left.

It makes an enormous difference.

It really doesn't. Bottom line you can still easily hit enemies diagonal to Link in both games. It's an absolute nonissue.

LBW just takes every element of LttP and improves on it. Idk whats up people's butts about LttP.

I didn't mind the weapon renting or dungeon order or whatever. It was fun having every ability and I felt like every item was used in a fun way in the dungeons. The 2D mechanic felt natural for the puzzles and just for the perspective of top down. I thought the story was really cute and effective; it was like an actual story instead of just random shit.

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It's been a few years but I recall the game being extremely easy compared to other top down Zelda titles.

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Link Between Worlds is a brilliant remix of Link to the Past, IMO. Theres a lot of nostalgic call-backs built in, but the game would still be great without them.

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It's a perfectly fine mechanic and gets you to use your ruppees to buy them outright. It is a really stellar game

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So everything costs 800 or more rupees to buy?! LOL, I remember when they used to reward you with free items. Fuck this game.

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badjay posted...

Don't die?

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You get flooded with rupees by that point. I

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