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Shezarr 09/19/21 3:40:09 PM #52:	Damn_Underscore posted... I'm sorry, I may have misused the term. I won't do it again. So you meant to say, likely, humanities, in which case its still an absolutely asinine thing to believe that humanities majors can and do only find work in the academy. A belief that really only comes from someone who clearly has never set foot in a university, or has simply fallen too deeply down the STEM-CHUD rabbit hole --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:958206735] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>I'm sorry, I may have misused the term. I won't do it again.</quote>So you meant to say, likely, humanities, in which case its still an absolutely asinine thing to believe that humanities majors can and do only find work in the academy. A belief that really only comes from someone who clearly has never set foot in a university, or has simply fallen too deeply down the STEM-CHUD rabbit hole </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/19/21 3:42:54 PM #53:	This topic is about the fact that it is possible to remain in the academic world for life (even if it's not in college; Mr. Feeny is my personal image of an academic"), which is interesting. --- Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:958206835] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>This topic is about the fact that it is possible to remain in the academic world for life (even if it's not in college; Mr. Feeny is my personal image of an academic"), which is interesting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masticatingman 09/19/21 3:43:56 PM #54:	Unfortunately, would have to largely agree with the liberal arts degree naysayers unless you plan to immediately flip it into a graduate degree like law etc, or are on-purposely going into general teaching/academia in some form. --- To/fro from-towards <cite>masticatingman posted [p:958206867] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Unfortunately, would have to largely agree with the liberal arts degree naysayers unless you plan to immediately flip it into a graduate degree like law etc, or are on-purposely going into general teaching/academia in some form. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WeeWeiWiiWie 09/19/21 3:44:42 PM #55:	Damn_Underscore posted... This topic is about the fact that it is possible to remain in the academic world for life (even if it's not in college; Mr. Feeny is my personal image of an academic"), which is interesting. You are deliberately implying that academia is just a self perpetuating machine that produces nothing. You're not clever, it's obvious what you're doing. Your implication is incorrect. --- Stabilized. COVxy alt. <cite>WeeWeiWiiWie posted [p:958206893] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>This topic is about the fact that it is possible to remain in the academic world for life (even if it's not in college; Mr. Feeny is my personal image of an academic"), which is interesting.</quote> You are deliberately implying that academia is just a self perpetuating machine that produces nothing. You're not clever, it's obvious what you're doing. Your implication is incorrect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 09/19/21 3:45:03 PM #56:	To be a registered high school teacher in Ireand you literally have to get your degree in the subject to teach it <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:958206906] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>To be a registered high school teacher in Ireand you literally have to get your degree in the subject to teach it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/19/21 3:46:58 PM #57:	WeeWeiWiiWie posted... You are deliberately implying that academia is just a self perpetuating machine that produces nothing. You're not clever, it's obvious what you're doing. Your implication is incorrect. In some ways it is. Like the image an old professor with a tweed jacket smoking a pipe. That is not disparaging of academia in any way. --- Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:958206966] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>WeeWeiWiiWie posted... </cite> <quote>You are deliberately implying that academia is just a self perpetuating machine that produces nothing. You're not clever, it's obvious what you're doing. Your implication is incorrect.</quote> In some ways it is. Like the image an old professor with a tweed jacket smoking a pipe. That is not disparaging of academia in any way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 09/19/21 3:49:40 PM #58:	Damn_Underscore posted... In some ways it is. Like the image an old professor with a tweed jacket smoking a pipe. That is not disparaging of academia in any way. This image I have of academia from movies is definitely what it is in reality! Yes you seem very well informed --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:958207052] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>In some ways it is. Like the image an old professor with a tweed jacket smoking a pipe. That is not disparaging of academia in any way.</quote>This image I have of academia from movies is definitely what it is in reality! Yes you seem very well informed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 09/19/21 3:50:09 PM #59:	@Shezarr When did you know you wanted to to post-secondary? --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:958207068] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>@Shezarr When did you know you wanted to to post-secondary? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/19/21 3:51:33 PM #60:	You guys are falsely accusing me of making this topic maliciously. In fact you are the malicious ones. --- Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:958207113] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>You guys are falsely accusing me of making this topic maliciously. In fact you are the malicious ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nothanks1 09/19/21 3:51:57 PM #61:	I didn't comment on your reasons for creating I just pointed out there is a genuine reason for it in Ireland <cite>nothanks1 posted [p:958207132] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>I didn't comment on your reasons for creating I just pointed out there is a genuine reason for it in Ireland</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 09/19/21 3:53:03 PM #62:	I just tagged Rebel because Anyone can answer the question about when college seemed like a good choice --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:958207163] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>I just tagged Rebel because Anyone can answer the question about when college seemed like a good choice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/19/21 3:53:07 PM #63:	nothanks1 posted... I didn't comment on your reasons for creating I just pointed out there is a genuine reason for it in Ireland I didn't think you were being malicious so we're cool. --- Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:958207169] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>nothanks1 posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't comment on your reasons for creating I just pointed out there is a genuine reason for it in Ireland</quote> I didn't think you were being malicious so we're cool. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Derwood 09/19/21 3:54:23 PM #64:	nothanks1 posted... To be a registered high school teacher in Ireand you literally have to get your degree in the subject to teach it Same in the U.S. If you want to teach math in high school, you get a math degree, not an education degree. You then need to take additional courses to get teaching certification in your state <cite>Derwood posted [p:958207205] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>nothanks1 posted... </cite> <quote>To be a registered high school teacher in Ireand you literally have to get your degree in the subject to teach it</quote> Same in the U.S. If you want to teach math in high school, you get a math degree, not an education degree. You then need to take additional courses to get teaching certification in your state </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WeeWeiWiiWie 09/19/21 3:54:40 PM #65:	Damn_Underscore posted... In some ways it is. Like the image an old professor with a tweed jacket smoking a pipe. That is not disparaging of academia in any way. People usually go into academia to produce new things, not to teach old things. The teaching, with the exception of small teaching colleges, is the side gig that is necessary. --- Stabilized. COVxy alt. <cite>WeeWeiWiiWie posted [p:958207211] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>In some ways it is. Like the image an old professor with a tweed jacket smoking a pipe. That is not disparaging of academia in any way.</quote> People usually go into academia to produce new things, not to teach old things. The teaching, with the exception of small teaching colleges, is the side gig that is necessary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 09/19/21 3:56:41 PM #66:	Damn_Underscore posted... The title is literally a joke to introduce the topic, lord almighty... It's a known meme that liberal arts degrees are "useless." Why bother arguing with a person who looks down on others with an associates degree lol Who even does that anymore? --- https://imgur.com/ibuqBTh - https://imgur.com/L5vXdS5 https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - <cite>RedJackson posted [p:958207277] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted... </cite> <quote>The title is literally a joke to introduce the topic, lord almighty... It's a known meme that liberal arts degrees are "useless."</quote> Why bother arguing with a person who looks down on others with an associates degree lol Who even does that anymore? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 09/19/21 3:56:46 PM #67:	Derwood posted... Same in the U.S. If you want to teach math in high school, you get a math degree, not an education degree. You then need to take additional courses to get teaching certification in your state Don't mention mandatory placements at all sure --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:958207278] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Derwood posted... </cite> <quote>Same in the U.S. If you want to teach math in high school, you get a math degree, not an education degree. You then need to take additional courses to get teaching certification in your state</quote>Don't mention mandatory placements at all sure </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kage_53 09/19/21 3:58:01 PM #68:	Derwood posted... Wrong No Im not. Every single major can lead to a teaching job. Studies anything is dumb. Lets say you care about the environment. Theres two majors for it. Environmental Studies and Environmental Science. Environmental Science gives you the quantative skills needed to conduct research and find ways to address envitonmental issues. Environmental studies doesnt do anything. People pick it just because they hate math. <cite>kage_53 posted [p:958207322] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Derwood posted... </cite> <quote>Wrong</quote>No Im not. Every single major can lead to a teaching job. Studies anything is dumb. Lets say you care about the environment. Theres two majors for it. Environmental Studies and Environmental Science. Environmental Science gives you the quantative skills needed to conduct research and find ways to address envitonmental issues. Environmental studies doesnt do anything. People pick it just because they hate math. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 09/19/21 3:59:03 PM #69:	Derwood posted... Same in the U.S. If you want to teach math in high school, you get a math degree, not an education degree. You then need to take additional courses to get teaching certification in your state I don't know about this - my economics and personal finance teacher complained that he got hired at a different school and they assigned him to teach computer science stuff. I'm sure in some states they do require you to be educated in the specific field but I think there's still some flexibility here. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving/Crafting/RC https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:958207358] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Derwood posted... </cite> <quote>Same in the U.S. If you want to teach math in high school, you get a math degree, not an education degree. You then need to take additional courses to get teaching certification in your state</quote>I don't know about this - my economics and personal finance teacher complained that he got hired at a different school and they assigned him to teach computer science stuff. I'm sure in some states they do require you to be educated in the specific field but I think there's still some flexibility here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 09/19/21 3:59:44 PM #70:	kage_53 posted... No Im not. Every single major can lead to a teaching job. Studies anything is dumb. Lets say you care about the environment. Theres two majors for it. Environmental Studies and Environmental Science. Environmental Science gives you the quantative skills needed to conduct research and find ways to address envitonmental issues. Environmental studies doesnt do anything. People pick it just because they hate math. Some jobs only require basic literacy in a field --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:958207381] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>kage_53 posted... </cite> <quote>No Im not. Every single major can lead to a teaching job. Studies anything is dumb. Lets say you care about the environment. Theres two majors for it. Environmental Studies and Environmental Science. Environmental Science gives you the quantative skills needed to conduct research and find ways to address envitonmental issues. Environmental studies doesnt do anything. People pick it just because they hate math.</quote>Some jobs only require basic literacy in a field </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 09/19/21 4:06:04 PM #71:	RedJackson posted... Why bother arguing with a person who looks down on others with an associates degree lol Who even does that anymore? Oh are you still melting down because I said that having an AA from a community college doesn't enable one to talk about the culture in "academia" at large? Because guess what? It's true! And no, I don't "look down on others with an AA," I got one myself enroute ffs. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:958207576] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Why bother arguing with a person who looks down on others with an associates degree lol Who even does that anymore?</quote>Oh are you still melting down because I said that having an AA from a community college doesn't enable one to talk about the culture in "academia" at large? Because guess what? It's true! And no, I don't "look down on others with an AA," I got one myself enroute ffs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 09/19/21 4:07:03 PM #72:	Hexenherz posted... I don't know about this - my economics and personal finance teacher complained that he got hired at a different school and they assigned him to teach computer science stuff. I'm sure in some states they do require you to be educated in the specific field but I think there's still some flexibility here. It probably depends on the state, and maybe the field. In CA you absolutely need to be credentialed in the subject(s) you teach, with no exceptions afaik. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:958207597] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Hexenherz posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know about this - my economics and personal finance teacher complained that he got hired at a different school and they assigned him to teach computer science stuff. I'm sure in some states they do require you to be educated in the specific field but I think there's still some flexibility here.</quote>It probably depends on the state, and maybe the field. In CA you absolutely need to be credentialed in the subject(s) you teach, with no exceptions afaik. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 09/19/21 4:14:38 PM #73:	Shezarr posted... Oh are you still melting down because I said that having an AA from a community college doesn't enable one to talk about the culture in "academia" at large? Because guess what? It's true! And no, I don't "look down on others with an AA," I got one myself enroute ffs. Lol thats horrible gatekeeping by the smug, perspective is everywhere especially if youre talking the culture of academia and not academia itself And its astounding the shit you write, I cant help but point it out since really, no one thinks like that anymore Glad the new generations arent going to be as ridiculous, glad were dying out --- https://imgur.com/ibuqBTh - https://imgur.com/L5vXdS5 https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - <cite>RedJackson posted [p:958207863] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>Oh are you still melting down because I said that having an AA from a community college doesn't enable one to talk about the culture in "academia" at large? Because guess what? It's true! And no, I don't "look down on others with an AA," I got one myself enroute ffs.</quote> Lol thats horrible gatekeeping by the smug, perspective is everywhere especially if youre talking the culture of academia and not academia itself And its astounding the shit you write, I cant help but point it out since really, no one thinks like that anymore Glad the new generations arent going to be as ridiculous, glad were dying out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 09/19/21 4:16:19 PM #74:	It isn't gatekeeping to say that someone should have experience with the thing they're criticizing if they want to criticize it. The culture of the university system and the culture of community colleges are vastly different. This is a fact. If you're going to whine about how "academia is all leftist woke sjw nonsense!" or draw any other broad conclusions about it, and you've never been past community college, your opinion means nothing. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:958207909] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>It isn't gatekeeping to say that someone should have experience with the thing they're criticizing if they want to criticize it. The culture of the university system and the culture of community colleges are vastly different. This is a fact. If you're going to whine about how "academia is all leftist woke sjw nonsense!" or draw any other broad conclusions about it, and you've never been past community college, your opinion means nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 09/19/21 4:21:59 PM #75:	Shezarr posted... It isn't gatekeeping to say that someone should have experience with the thing they're criticizing if they want to criticize it. The culture of the university system and the culture of community colleges are vastly different. This is a fact. If you're going to whine about how "academia is all leftist woke sjw nonsense!" or draw any other broad conclusions about it, and you've never been past community college, your opinion means nothing. I am past community college lol please tell me where Ive been (point out how Im not finished with it, its perpetual with you, nobody but you cares if I have years ago to actually make it a point) and nah - perspective, good perspective anyways should never be left in the hand of people like yall. There is certainly more to life, in fact all the people who created the foundations you have learned are not quantifiable through modern academics since bachelors are recent inventions to the grand scope of all education. I have no idea about what modern SJW politics things youre referring to, I just know the new kids can shut the fuck up and be humble about what education should mean. Only you use words like that, but it makes sense youd refer to things as that considering the type of mindset you have No, if someone does not have mental health issues they are not automatically barred from being part of the discussion - this is literally your position and youll try and nuance it to make it seem like you even hinted at more. I dont have your titles and literally disassembled all of that like its gingerweed - stay mad --- https://imgur.com/ibuqBTh - https://imgur.com/L5vXdS5 https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - <cite>RedJackson posted [p:958208071] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>It isn't gatekeeping to say that someone should have experience with the thing they're criticizing if they want to criticize it. The culture of the university system and the culture of community colleges are vastly different. This is a fact. If you're going to whine about how "academia is all leftist woke sjw nonsense!" or draw any other broad conclusions about it, and you've never been past community college, your opinion means nothing.</quote> I am past community college lol please tell me where Ive been (point out how Im not finished with it, its perpetual with you, nobody but you cares if I have years ago to actually make it a point) and nah - perspective, good perspective anyways should never be left in the hand of people like yall. There is certainly more to life, in fact all the people who created the foundations you have learned are not quantifiable through modern academics since bachelors are recent inventions to the grand scope of all education. I have no idea about what modern SJW politics things youre referring to, I just know the new kids can shut the fuck up and be humble about what education should mean. Only you use words like that, but it makes sense youd refer to things as that considering the type of mindset you have No, if someone does not have mental health issues they are not automatically barred from being part of the discussion - this is literally your position and youll try and nuance it to make it seem like you even hinted at more. I dont have your titles and literally disassembled all of that like its gingerweed - stay mad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shezarr 09/19/21 4:28:03 PM #76:	The topic you're referring to wasn't even about you, shut the fuck up and get help. But if you want to make it about you, you also lied about being a teacher then later revealed you're an electrician, so lol. Fuck outta here. Or don't. Keep melting down and get suspended a 5th time in 6 months for melting down over me. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:958208278] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>The topic you're referring to wasn't even about you, shut the fuck up and get help. But if you want to make it about you, you also lied about being a teacher then later revealed you're an electrician, so lol. Fuck outta here. Or don't. Keep melting down and get suspended a 5th time in 6 months for melting down over me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 09/19/21 4:47:33 PM #77:	Shezarr posted... The topic you're referring to wasn't even about you, shut the fuck up and get help. But if you want to make it about you, you also lied about being a teacher then later revealed you're an electrician, so lol. Fuck outta here. Or don't. Keep melting down and get suspended a 5th time in 6 months for melting down over me. Lol I have had many jobs as a person working, gives you a perspective beyond some academia baby with nothing but a degree trying to gatekeep the door of perspective --- https://imgur.com/ibuqBTh - https://imgur.com/L5vXdS5 https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - <cite>RedJackson posted [p:958208926] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>Shezarr posted... </cite> <quote>The topic you're referring to wasn't even about you, shut the fuck up and get help. But if you want to make it about you, you also lied about being a teacher then later revealed you're an electrician, so lol. Fuck outta here. Or don't. Keep melting down and get suspended a 5th time in 6 months for melting down over me.</quote> Lol I have had many jobs as a person working, gives you a perspective beyond some academia baby with nothing but a degree trying to gatekeep the door of perspective </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 09/19/21 4:55:33 PM #79:	DieselWeasel posted... JFC Rebel I mean this in the nicest possible way but take a chill pill. Dont you have multiple meltdowns per week about minorities on a hate subreddit, lord_shadow_19 --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:958209165] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>DieselWeasel posted... </cite> <quote>JFC Rebel I mean this in the nicest possible way but take a chill pill.</quote>Dont you have multiple meltdowns per week about minorities on a hate subreddit, lord_shadow_19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shezarr 09/19/21 5:24:45 PM #81:	DieselWeasel posted... I am neither him nor does he do that, so I don't see how that jab is relevant. Lol, okay. --- The artist formerly known as RebelElite791 <cite>Shezarr posted [p:958210117] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>DieselWeasel posted... </cite> <quote>I am neither him nor does he do that, so I don't see how that jab is relevant.</quote>Lol, okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tonicpalin 09/20/21 9:19:27 AM #84:	er? i once met a police chief who got a liberal arts PhD, not sure what he majored in. that and accountancy is also "liberal arts". https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/accounting-major-overview did any of you srzzzzly go to university/college?!? --- WELCOME TO PALIN'S TRAVELS-Michael Palin, 25th September 2002. https://www.palinstravels.co.uk/static-97 <cite>tonicpalin posted [p:958227927] in People say... [t:79669149]...</cite> <quote>er? i once met a police chief who got a liberal arts PhD, not sure what he majored in. that and accountancy is also "liberal arts". https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/accounting-major-overview did any of you srzzzzly go to university/college?!? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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