Current Events > CNBC poll shows very little will persuade unvaccinated Americans to get vaccine

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BlueTigerLion
09/10/21 11:32:09 AM
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Heartomaton
09/10/21 11:33:54 AM
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Stupid people are stubborn.

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ScarfForLife
09/10/21 11:34:20 AM
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When they get fired from their jobs, it will open up more jobs for me. Woohoo.

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Giant_Aspirin
09/10/21 11:34:21 AM
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we're only fucked until enough of those morons kill themselves off

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K181
09/10/21 11:36:35 AM
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Which is why making life inconvenient as shit for anti-vaaxers is the only way to get out of this pandemic.

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DarthAragorn
09/10/21 11:38:22 AM
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Don't persuade them. Require them.

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Questionmarktarius
09/10/21 11:38:39 AM
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K181 posted...
Which is why making life inconvenient as shit for anti-vaaxers is the only way to get out of this pandemic.
We're about ten minutes away from "mark of the beast garbablarglargle!", which only leads to stubborning harder.
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Vyrulisse
09/10/21 11:39:04 AM
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Not getting it doesn't mean you're an Anti-Vaxer you know. There's a lot of mistrust in the Government by a lot of groups and it's pretty justified and they see the Government pushing this vaccine so hard against something that honestly most people don't see the real effects of and it makes them give a leery eye to it all. Instead of making them miserable and talking down to them maybe people should try some outreach.

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hsvhighlife
09/10/21 11:40:51 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Not getting it doesn't mean you're an Anti-Vaxer you know. There's a lot of mistrust in the Government by a lot of groups and it's pretty justified and they see the Government pushing this vaccine so hard against something that honestly most people don't see the real effects of and it makes them give a leery eye to it all. Instead of making them miserable and talking down to them maybe people should try some outreach.


not to mention most new literature suggests natural immunity > vaccination to the new COVID variants. vaccines creating super bugs. i would be shocked if anyone who is unvaxed at this point would get it

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CableZL
09/10/21 11:40:58 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Not getting it doesn't mean you're an Anti-Vaxer you know. There's a lot of mistrust in the Government by a lot of groups and it's pretty justified and they see the Government pushing this vaccine so hard against something that honestly most people don't see the real effects of and it makes them give a leery eye to it all. Instead of making them miserable and talking down to them maybe people should try some outreach.

Outreach has been tried for months. Anti-vaxxers just keep moving the goalposts.

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Shezarr
09/10/21 11:41:57 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
something that honestly most people don't see the real effects of
If they don't "see the real effects" of covid they're fucking idiots. Get a grip.

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CableZL
09/10/21 11:42:30 AM
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hsvhighlife posted...
not to mention most new literature suggests natural immunity > vaccination to the new COVID variants. vaccines creating super bugs

You're being misleading, and it seems intentional. Those studies said:
  • Natural immunity > vaccine immunity
  • Natural immunity + vaccine immunity > natural immunity
  • Vaccine immunity > getting covid in order to get natural immunity


The vaccines aren't creating super bugs. The delta variant was identified in December of 2020, before the vast majority of people could even get vaccinated.

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Vyrulisse
09/10/21 11:43:27 AM
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Shezarr posted...
If they don't "see the real effects" of covid they're fucking idiots. Get a grip.
Well in my area you wouldn't know anything is happening. I'm talking about people thinking and seeing local, not national or living on Twitter.

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K181
09/10/21 11:43:58 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
We're about ten minutes away from "mark of the beast garbablarglargle!", which only leads to stubborning harder.

people are taking horse dewormers.

they're already smack dab in stubborn territory.

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Jagr_68
09/10/21 11:44:31 AM
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K181 posted...
Which is why making life inconvenient as shit for anti-vaaxers is the only way to get out of this pandemic.

Because the universe wants it that way.

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__aCEr__
09/10/21 11:44:46 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Not getting it doesn't mean you're an Anti-Vaxer you know.

When your arguments are the same ones that other anti-vaxxers use...you are.

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DarthAragorn
09/10/21 11:46:57 AM
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Imagine being such a fucking dumbass moron you think getting covid is a better option than getting the vaccine

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NightMarishPie
09/10/21 11:47:32 AM
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CableZL posted...
You're being misleading, and it seems intentional. Those studies said:
* Natural immunity > vaccine immunity
* Natural immunity + vaccine immunity > natural immunity
* Vaccine immunity > getting covid in order to get natural immunity

The vaccines aren't creating super bugs. The delta variant was identified in December of 2020, before the vast majority of people could even get vaccinated.
The natural immunity talking point is always so funny to me because it requires one to get covid to acquire the natural immunity, and it's like, why the hell would I willingly get covid? Lol

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Vyrulisse
09/10/21 11:47:42 AM
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Also I bet some Biden Bucks would do it for a lot of people

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ElatedVenusaur
09/10/21 11:48:12 AM
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Unfortunately, carrots have been offered for quite some time. And they havent had the hoped-for effect.
So its time to to incorporate some sticks.

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CableZL
09/10/21 11:48:37 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Also I bet some Biden Bucks would do it for a lot of people
We literally tried cash bribes. Didn't work for the vast majority of anti-vaxxers.

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CableZL
09/10/21 11:53:30 AM
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Also, friendly reminder that republicans in Tennessee actually decided to stop ALL vaccine outreach to children in response to people recommending covid vaccines. Fortunately, they reversed that decision after getting lots of criticism.

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Giant_Aspirin
09/10/21 11:56:15 AM
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post #9 should be marked by everyone for spreading covid misinformation. get fucked dude

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Giant_Aspirin
09/10/21 11:57:56 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Not getting it doesn't mean you're an Anti-Vaxer you know. There's a lot of mistrust in the Government by a lot of groups and it's pretty justified and they see the Government pushing this vaccine so hard against something that honestly most people don't see the real effects of and it makes them give a leery eye to it all. Instead of making them miserable and talking down to them maybe people should try some outreach.

we've been trying "polite outreach" since March. these people are literally killing others with their selfish ignorance. i am absolutely done coddling them and making sacrifies to appease those people. and as the OP states, there's basically nothing we can do to convince these people at this point. we need to just move on and leave them behind.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/10/21 11:59:19 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Also I bet some Biden Bucks would do it for a lot of people

Nah, incentive programs have made pretty much no difference.

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Frolex
09/10/21 12:01:49 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Well in my area you wouldn't know anything is happening. I'm talking about people thinking and seeing local, not national or living on Twitter.

Imagine admitting anti-vaxers live in a bubble like you do and then in the same breath accusing people who take covid seriously of "living on twitter" lmao

The only solution at this point is for as many people as possible to mandate vaccination: employers, schools, business, concert and convention venues, airlines, sporting events, health insurers, whatever. If people want to remain being plague bearers, then fine, but they can do it away from the rest of us.

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coolboy11
09/10/21 12:03:06 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Imagine being such a fucking dumbass moron you think getting covid is a better option than getting the vaccine
like crashing your car to get a new one when you could just buy a new car in the first place and skip the crash.

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FortuneCookie
09/10/21 12:06:26 PM
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Alteres
09/10/21 12:10:15 PM
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K181 posted...
people are taking horse dewormers.

they're already smack dab in stubborn territory.
Things arent burning yet.

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FortuneCookie
09/10/21 12:12:47 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
People are taking Vy seriously? She has a warped view of Jan 6 so I wouldn't listen to any of her political comments.

Wait, what? I've never read any warped (political) views from her. She usually calls both sides out on their BS. What did she say about January 6?
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Shezarr
09/10/21 12:15:13 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Wait, what? I've never read any warped (political) views from her. She usually calls both sides out on their BS. What did she say about January 6?
I haven't seen her talk about Jan 6 but she was tooting the Trump horn for a long time.

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Machete
09/10/21 1:00:39 PM
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We should come up with a "vaccine vaccine" which gives immunity to vaccines. Anti vaxxers would get that in order to be innoculated from the vaccine...

Only it's bukkshit and is just the regular vaccine. We just lie to the anti vaxxers about it. They believe literally any dumb thing so they will be 100% fooled.
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Machete
09/10/21 1:02:14 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
People are taking Vy seriously?


I hope not.
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SpudForce
09/10/21 2:26:41 PM
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Throughout human history, there's always going to be portion of the human race dragging the species down. The human race will never outlive stupidity no matter how sophiscated our civilization may get, modern anti-vaxxers are proof of that.

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Solar_Crimson
09/10/21 2:30:07 PM
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hsvhighlife posted...
not to mention most new literature suggests natural immunity > vaccination to the new COVID variants. vaccines creating super bugs. i would be shocked if anyone who is unvaxed at this point would get it
Why is this guy allowed to continually post COVID misinformation?

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DarthAragorn
09/10/21 2:30:31 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Why is this guy allowed to continually post COVID misinformation?
Because mods refuse to mod it anymore

I gave up on marking it because nothing was ever done

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Tyranthraxus
09/10/21 2:36:57 PM
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If you are an unvaccinated adult without a documented allergy or immunocompromised condition that precludes vaccinations then:

  1. No social security benefits at all (you still get to pay the tax)
  2. No student loans
  3. Medicare benefits are suspended
  4. Disability insurance is suspended
  5. Unemployment insurance is suspended
  6. Passports are revoked
  7. All this ends immediately upon getting vaccinations

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
09/10/21 2:37:44 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Don't persuade them. Require them.
Exactly. They're going about it all wrong.

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sondast
09/10/21 2:38:50 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Not getting it doesn't mean you're an Anti-Vaxer you know. There's a lot of mistrust in the Government by a lot of groups and it's pretty justified and they see the Government pushing this vaccine so hard against something that honestly most people don't see the real effects of and it makes them give a leery eye to it all. Instead of making them miserable and talking down to them maybe people should try some outreach.
This isnt the Tuskegee experiments. People from every background got vaccinated. Get vaccinated ffs!

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Jabodie
09/10/21 2:41:31 PM
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Kind of amazing just how vulnerable the population is to misinformation and conspiracy theories. And there's no real reason to believe it'll get any better tbh.

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Kolibri X
09/10/21 2:47:11 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
If you are an unvaccinated adult without a documented allergy or immunocompromised condition that precludes vaccinations then:

1. No social security benefits at all (you still get to pay the tax)
2. No student loans
3. Medicare benefits are suspended
4. Disability insurance is suspended
5. Unemployment insurance is suspended
6. Passports are revoked
7. All this ends immediately upon getting vaccinations

Yes, make millions of people destitute with nothing to lose. That worked out well for other regimes in the past. Go on. Do it.

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ThePrinceFish
09/10/21 2:50:12 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
Yes, make millions of people destitute with nothing to lose. That worked out well for other regimes in the past. Go on. Do it.
These people have no concept of the consequences of their actions. They only want to punish the other side. That is the sole objective surrounding this stupid hysteria. Force millions of people out of society? What could possibly go wrong.

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Solar_Crimson
09/10/21 2:52:30 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
Yes, make millions of people destitute with nothing to lose. That worked out well for other regimes in the past. Go on. Do it.
There's no harm or cost in getting the vaccine, and society will be better and safer the more people that are vaccinated.

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Tyranthraxus
09/10/21 2:53:47 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
Yes, make millions of people destitute with nothing to lose. That worked out well for other regimes in the past. Go on. Do it.

Other regimes didn't give people a way to fix their problems by taking 1 hour out of their fucking lives to get a free poke that prevents civil war tier deaths.

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sondast
09/10/21 2:54:14 PM
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Kolibri X posted...
Yes, make millions of people destitute with nothing to lose. That worked out well for other regimes in the past. Go on. Do it.
A bunch of for profit federal prisons are about to become available. If Biden were half as radical as Republicans say he is he would be housing the unvaccinated in them.

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Questionmarktarius
09/10/21 3:51:04 PM
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The stubborn holdouts are essentially a petulant child who won't clean his room, in that increasingly harsh and eventually entirely unrelated punishments by mommy and daddy only makes the child more petulant and non-compliant.

sondast posted...
A bunch of for profit federal prisons are about to become available. If Biden were half as radical as Republicans say he is he would be housing the unvaccinated in them.
Oh yes, let's combat a pandemic by concentrating the virulent all into the same place. Surely it'll never escape the facility or brew especially nasty variations.
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pegusus123456
09/10/21 3:52:24 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The stubborn holdouts are essentially a petulant child who won't clean his room, in that increasingly harsh and eventually entirely unrelated punishments by mommy and daddy only makes the child more petulant and non-compliant.

So you're a bad parent too?
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Duncanwii
09/10/21 3:56:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure a gun in the face would persuade people to take the vaccine pretty damn fast.
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