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Bass_X0
09/04/21 8:23:17 AM
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first they complain about sequels, prequels, remakes and spin-offs, then when you offer movie fans a new character and a new story, they complain that they don't know that character and that they don't have any connection to him so they don't care about him. but every completely new movie also has characters that you don't know and have no connection to. Shang Chi isn't a completely new character, but he is so obscure even to Marvel comic fans, that he may as well be a completely new character to movie fans.

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Doom_Art
09/04/21 8:24:05 AM
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Hasn't Shang Chi been performing well

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Iodine
09/04/21 8:25:00 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Hasn't Shang Chi been performing well
The reviews are great, but the problem is that a theater only release in the middle of Covid isn't going to do well.

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Bass_X0
09/04/21 8:27:12 AM
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There's been nothing but doom and gloom predicted for ticket sales prior to the movie's release date. Nobody seems to have faith in it.

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Oshawottownage
09/04/21 8:35:27 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
There's been nothing but doom and gloom predicted for ticket sales prior to the movie's release date. Nobody seems to have faith in it.

Deltas gonna really hurt it and no streaming release for now isn't good either.

Seriously Disney just give the same cut to the stars from streaming that you do tickets and call it a fuckin day

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Blue_Popo
09/04/21 9:44:35 AM
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Iodine posted...
The reviews are great, but the problem is that a theater only release in the middle of Covid isn't going to do well.

It's exceeding expectations at the moment
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MagnusX
09/04/21 9:51:07 AM
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ClunkerSlim posted...
Cause the magic rings look dumb in the trailer. Its no Iron Man suit. Marvel fishing at the bottom of the barrel at this point. Just do Iron Heart already or whoever shes called. We know Marvel and Disney want to. Its probably their dream.
Yeah, no. The movie is good and the rings are cool. I want this and Iron Heart and I'm glad chuds like you don't make decisions.
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BilalPowell
09/04/21 9:51:59 AM
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Guardians of the Galaxy is counterproof

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nativengine
09/05/21 1:20:16 PM
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BilalPowell posted...
Guardians of the Galaxy is counterproof
As is the box office

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/05/marvels-shang-chi-snares-71point4-million-domestic-box-office-opening.html

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Count_Babula
09/05/21 1:23:08 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
but he is so obscure even to Marvel comic fans

no he isn't, dummy

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CableZL
09/05/21 1:24:37 PM
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Shang-Chi is doing pretty well in theaters for a movie opening during the pandemic, so this topic is pretty much false.

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SSJPurple
09/05/21 1:26:25 PM
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If it flops its simply because its not that good. The MCU is huge, it being a Marvel movie gives it huge potential aloneall it has to do is not suck and people will love it.

Point being there is no grand reason or mystery behind why this movie will succeed or not. Its all based on if its good or not.

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Bass_X0
09/05/21 1:27:15 PM
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Count_Babula posted...
no he isn't, dummy

Yeah, they're aware of him. But the few comic books he does have aren't that popular.

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Kitt
09/05/21 1:28:24 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
People not seeing another formulaic Marvel movie is PROOF no one wants original ideas
lol got'em

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Axiom
09/05/21 1:28:54 PM
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Some people I know are going to theaters for the first time since the pandemic started just to see Shang Chi so yeah this topic is so wrong
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nativengine
09/05/21 1:45:13 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Yeah, they're aware of him. But the few comic books he does have aren't that popular.
Just because they arent popular doesnt mean Marvel fans are unaware of him. I foolishly said no one cares about an Ironman movie because in my mind he wasnt as popular as say Spider-Man, Thor, The Hulk or the X-Men. I was obviously so wrong and I love the first Ironman. And the only one I knew really knew from GotG was Rocket Raccoon because my cousin had this very obscure toy of him in the 90s. And oddly enough I knew about Yondu too because he was an archer.

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Njolk
09/05/21 2:10:33 PM
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Imo compare spiderman, batman, and superman to shang chi

The popular heroes are cool with well defined powers

Shang chi can... Fight really well? Throw rings at people? His outfit is.. normal clothes? No one cares

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CableZL
09/05/21 2:11:34 PM
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Njolk posted...
Imo compare spiderman, batman, and superman to shang chi

The popular heroes are cool with well defined powers

Shang chi can... Fight really well? Throw rings at people? His outfit is.. normal clothes? No one cares

The narrative that "no one cares" doesn't really work when you add in the fact that the movie is doing really well in theaters in its opening weekend.

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Bass_X0
09/05/21 2:38:07 PM
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nativengine posted...
I foolishly said no one cares about an Ironman movie because in my mind he wasnt as popular as say Spider-Man, Thor, The Hulk or the X-Men.

There was no reason to ever have ever said that. Iron Man and Captain America have always been the two main Avengers which has always been a popular team.

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Vermander
09/05/21 2:39:31 PM
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I went to the theater next door to our house the other day and there were only 4 people there
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Bass_X0
09/05/21 2:41:11 PM
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CableZL posted...
Shang-Chi is doing pretty well in theaters for a movie opening during the pandemic, so this topic is pretty much false.

No, I said that reports from before the release date of the movie has been nothing but doom and gloom for the movie with even Disney not showing an interest in promoting it as much as their other movies.

Now, hopefully it does pretty well. But nobody had faith in the movie before its showing.

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billcom6
09/05/21 2:43:08 PM
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its like the biggest labor day weekend opening ever lol

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Compsognathus
09/05/21 2:45:18 PM
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Biggest Labor Day weekend debut ever.
Second-biggest opening of the pandemic.
Strong critical reviews.

The entire premise of this topic is faulty.

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CableZL
09/05/21 2:45:48 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
No, I said that reports from before the release date of the movie has been nothing but doom and gloom for the movie with even Disney not showing an interest in promoting it as much as their other movies.

Now, hopefully it does pretty well. But nobody had faith in the movie before its showing.

What reports were these? I was excited to see the movie going in. Seems like a lot of people were excited about it as well, looking at the opening weekend numbers.

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GhettoFlip
09/05/21 2:51:14 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
No, I said that reports from before the release date of the movie has been nothing but doom and gloom for the movie with even Disney not showing an interest in promoting it as much as their other movies.

Now, hopefully it does pretty well. But nobody had faith in the movie before its showing.

you made one of the dumbest topics of all time dude

take the L

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DarthAragorn
09/05/21 3:27:17 PM
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What a dumb fucking topic

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Bass_X0
09/05/21 3:36:23 PM
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CableZL posted...
What reports were these? I was excited to see the movie going in. Seems like a lot of people were excited about it as well, looking at the opening weekend numbers.

Yeah, those opening weekend numbers came AFTER the movie had opened. BEFORE the movie had opened going all the way back to when it was first announced, several people were predicting a huge flop. Including Disney, going by how little they were advertising it. Even China mocked it and isn't currently scheduled for showing there.

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nativengine
09/05/21 3:38:37 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
There was no reason to ever have ever said that. Iron Man and Captain America have always been the two main Avengers which has always been a popular team.
Im just letting you know Ive said some dumb shit in the past and its best to admit when you were wrong. Take what you see on the internet with a grain of salt. What you saw on the internet and the reality are two ends of the spectrum. The movie did good, during a pandemic, the internet was wrong.again.

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Shezarr
09/05/21 3:43:30 PM
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Gee I just cant figure out why all the rightwing trolls are determined to hate this movie

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1NfamousACE_2
09/05/21 3:46:16 PM
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Thursday night show was sold out here

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Rhylos
09/05/21 3:48:20 PM
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Shezarr posted...
Gee I just cant figure out why all the rightwing trolls are determined to hate this movie

I really don't see that. It feels weird how with some movies the cast goes on a victim complex tour, and when the movie doesn't do as well as they want, they have someone to blame.
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CableZL
09/05/21 3:49:38 PM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Yeah, those opening weekend numbers came AFTER the movie had opened. BEFORE the movie had opened going all the way back to when it was first announced, several people were predicting a huge flop. Including Disney, going by how little they were advertising it. Even China mocked it and isn't currently scheduled for showing there.

There are several people who will predict everything will be a huge flop. That doesn't mean much. And I'm guessing China doesn't view Shang-Chi in a positive light because the comic book history of Shang-Chi plays up racist stereotypes.

That doesn't at all mean "no one had faith in the movie" as you seem to insist on claiming. Lots of people were excited to see the movie. The reactions to the trailers were overwhelming positive.

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Shezarr
09/05/21 3:49:47 PM
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Rhylos posted...
I really don't see that. It feels weird how with some movies the cast goes on a victim complex tour, and when the movie doesn't do as well as they want, they have someone to blame.
*points to TC*

Hmm, i dont see that says the 4 AMP alt shitposting about a movie thats doing very well supposedly not doing well

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CableZL
09/05/21 4:00:25 PM
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As has already been stated, Guardians of the Galaxy directly refutes this topic. Movie fans absolutely do care about new characters.

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AlmightyCheeks
09/05/21 4:01:35 PM
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Hes a nothing character. He has a boring look and no powers. Its why black widow and Hawkeye were the least interesting in all the other movies.

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chrono625
09/05/21 4:03:36 PM
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I saw it opening night. Completely average movie even for marvel standards.

it wasnt bad. It just wasnt anything special. I thought the CGI was pretty bad too.

the best scene or arguably the best scene was show in the trailer.

the final act was underwhelming and there was no real setup for whats coming this phase.

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1NfamousACE_2
09/05/21 4:10:40 PM
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chrono625 posted...
there was no real setup for whats coming this phase.

so you didnt watch it?

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CableZL
09/05/21 4:12:05 PM
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chrono625 posted...
the final act was underwhelming and there was no real setup for whats coming this phase.

Uhh, what? There were a number of things in Shang-Chi that set up things to come.

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chrono625
09/05/21 4:12:07 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
so you didnt watch it?

no I did.

oh these rings are a beacon to somewhere

thats not really giving much.

it might be a nod to the upcoming eternals but who knows?


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chrono625
09/05/21 4:13:26 PM
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CableZL posted...
Uhh, what? There were a number of things in Shang-Chi that set up things to come.

using spoilers tell me what was shown that tells us whats coming this phase.

because I didnt get anything from that post credits scene.

the only thing Im seeing is a strong hint at mysticism and sorcery. Thats been hinted at in Loki and Wandavision.

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Blue_Popo
09/05/21 4:14:43 PM
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Let's say you're right and it didn't set up any other movies, why is that a negative?
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Zikten
09/05/21 4:15:28 PM
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AlmightyCheeks posted...
Hes a nothing character. He has a boring look and no powers. Its why black widow and Hawkeye were the least interesting in all the other movies.

Batman has no powers and he is the most popular character from his universe
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CableZL
09/05/21 4:15:41 PM
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chrono625 posted...
no I did.

oh these rings are a beacon to somewhere

thats not really giving much.

it might be a nod to the upcoming eternals but who knows?

It doesn't reveal much at this time because we don't know what it's setting up. That doesn't mean it isn't setting something up, though.

Also

The Abomination vs Wong is setting up things for the future

Also

Shang-Chi's sister reviving the Ten Rings group is likely a setup for something in the future

And I'm guessing Captain Marvel saying there's something she needs to handle in the middle of that meeting is a setup for her next movie.

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chrono625
09/05/21 4:23:56 PM
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CableZL posted...
It doesn't reveal much at this time because we don't know what it's setting up. That doesn't mean it isn't setting something up, though.

Also

The Abomination vs Wong is setting up things for the future

Also

Shang-Chi's sister reviving the Ten Rings group is likely a setup for something in the future

And I'm guessing Captain Marvel saying there's something she needs to handle in the middle of that meeting is a setup for her next movie.

abomination seems like fan service than anything serious.

xianlin being the lead of 10 rings could progress to the tv verse. She was a great character. I doubt shell be a villain though. Maybe be a competition to Valentina or the power broker

i guess they do have things open for other things. But as far as the film universe is concerned I dont see where this movie shows us what direction were going. Are we going with celestial? Are we going magic? Are we going time/space?

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Shezarr
09/05/21 4:25:23 PM
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chrono625 posted...
abomination seems like fan service than anything serious.

xianlin being the lead of 10 rings could progress to the tv verse. She was a great character. I doubt shell be a villain though. Maybe be a competition to Valentina or the power broker

i guess they do have things open for other things. But as far as the film universe is concerned I dont see where this movie shows us what direction were going. Are we going with celestial? Are we going magic? Are we going time/space?
Por que no los tres

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CableZL
09/05/21 4:27:08 PM
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chrono625 posted...
i guess they do have things open for other things. But as far as the film universe is concerned I dont see where this movie shows us what direction were going. Are we going with celestial? Are we going magic? Are we going time/space?

The movie doesn't need to spell things out in exact terms. Marvel has a long history of giving vague hints that end up making more sense later on. They've been tight-lipped on exact details for a long time now, so I'm not sure why we should now expect them to tell us exactly what direction they're going in with future movies.

If you look at easter egg videos in relation to Shang-Chi, you would even see that they've been sprinkling Ten Rings references throughout other MCU movies way before this movie was even announced.

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