Current Events > Men who treat women nicely are usually single

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And it's the goddamn truth because Bugs said so

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I only treat women nicely if they're useful to me in some capactity
same with men

Toxic Masculinity hurts everyone

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I'm not one to argue with Bugs

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Our culture an media tell us that nice people are either trying to trick you or are weak, stupid and nave so you either use them to your benefit or end up being dragged down by them in some form or another if you don't abandon them.

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nothanks1 posted...

I only treat women nicely if they're useful to me in some capactity
same with men

bingo.

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I don't think there's any way to confirm that.

However, it's true that some nice men are single and some non-nice men aren't. Regardless of what the propagandists have to say about it.
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OdafeOweh posted...

Nice is extremely unattractive in the context of sexual attraction.

And how does one stop being nice to people?

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https://youtu.be/fW1YQJYhXFI

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I'm not a "nice guy", I'm a nice person. For example, when I went down to the hardware store to pick up a couple things I saw two people unpacking boxes, and I stopped and asked them if they wanted some help. They said, "thanks, but they got it. " And I went on my way to the store, where I said hello to people and told them to have a good day. Well, the workers I saw [Door person and cashier]. And then on the way home I picked up a trash can that was knocked over in front of someone's house. I'm a great tipper as well, regardless of who serves me. Every day I do kind things to people, should I just stop?

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I thought all the best guys were married or gay

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there are 2 types of nice guys

there is a guy who is nice. a genuinely nice guy that does nice things for people.

then there is the "nice guy". who is a guy that does nice things for people, but expects things in return.

there's a difference.

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there are more than two types of nice guys, and the topic title is also completely full of shit

i hope no one actually pays attention to these things and takes them as rules of life

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pojr posted...

there are 2 types of nice guys

there is a guy who is nice. a genuinely nice guy that does nice things for people.

then there is the "nice guy". who is a guy that does nice things for people, but expects things in return.

there's a difference.

I agree. There are certainly people out there that only do nice things for people so they can get something. I never ask for anything, I just do nice things. Often times I do nice things for people and they would never know, like picking up that garbage can that was knocked over. I've cleaned broken glass out of the street, helped people move things, stopped to tell people that their car windows were down when it was raining, I'll stay off the clock and help someone out if they're running behind, and a whole lot of other things. I don't even ask people for money like when I helped my brother move his house and watched his son for about 3 weeks strait while my sister-in-law as in the hospital with their second son.

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Bad_Mojo posted...

And how does one stop being nice to people?

Realize they've done nothing to deserve it.

pojr posted...

there are 2 types of nice guys

there is a guy who is nice. a genuinely nice guy that does nice things for people.

then there is the "nice guy". who is a guy that does nice things for people, but expects things in return.

there's a difference.

There's a difference, but it's irrelevant to the topic. No evidence either of them does better in dating.
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i will admit to many extents, i am a "nice guy". when i am courteous to someone, i expect someone to be courteous back. but when that doesn't happen i get pissed. or if i hold the door for someone and they don't say thank you, to a much lesser extent that makes me mad.

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Graycap posted...

There's a difference, but it's irrelevant to the topic. No evidence either of them does better in dating.

the difference is that the genuinely nice guy probably isn't going to care, or isn't in a rush to find a relationship.

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pojr posted...

the difference is that the genuinely nice guy probably isn't going to care, or isn't in a rush to find a relationship.

Decent point.

Desperation is rough.
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If the nice guy is overweight and poor, and has nothing to offer other than being nice, yes. If the nice guy has a fit body and money, then hell have no trouble getting women.

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OdafeOweh posted...

Nice is extremely unattractive in the context of sexual attraction.

If you want to be a platonic friend then being nice is the best way to achieve that goal.

Know what else is unattractive? Sexual assault.

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Graycap posted...

There's a difference, but it's irrelevant to the topic. No evidence either of them does better in dating.

My issue with that is that I simply don't hit on anyone. I'll never flirt with a cashier because I know they just want to get to the next customer, who is also waiting their turn. When I was a cashier I hated it when people stood there and talked to me when there were others waiting in line, so I just say my quick, "hello, how are you? Good, yeah, I'm good too. Thanks, have a good day." Also kind of BS to put them on the spot like that on their job, imo

I'll never flirt with someone in a store, or walking on the street, or in a park because to me it just comes off as creepy, and I never know what to say. Also, I don't really like it when strangers come up to me and start talking, so I don't do it to others.

I'll never flirt with someone at a bar because I don't drink, and if they're drinking, it would make me seem like a creep to hit on them.

My issue is that I treat everyone I'm attracted to exactly the same as pretty much everyone else I interact with.

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Im direct. But not rude.

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Being nice is a good trait but it can't be your defining trait. If it is you're kind of a boring person
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The problem comes when being nice is your whole personality.

Bad_Mojo posted...

My issue with that is that I simply don't hit on anyone. I'll never flirt with a cashier because I know they just want to get to the next customer, who is also waiting their turn. When I was a cashier I hated it when people stood there and talked to me when there were others waiting in line, so I just say my quick, "hello, how are you? Good, yeah, I'm good too. Thanks, have a good day." Also kind of BS to put them on the spot like that on their job, imo

I'll never flirt with someone in a store, or walking on the street, or in a park because to me it just comes off as creepy, and I never know what to say. Also, I don't really like it when strangers come up to me and start talking, so I don't do it to others.

I'll never flirt with someone at a bar because I don't drink, and if they're drinking, it would make me seem like a creep to hit on them.

My issue is that I treat everyone I'm attracted to exactly the same as pretty much everyone else I interact with.

i hear you man, i'm in a similar boat. i also do not drink and all activities i love are male dominated

cold approaching people on the street and at parks probably isnt gonna get you very far, because those are not usually places people go to meet new and strange people.

have you thought about going to a bar and just not drink? all bars are legally required to carry nonalcoholic beverages.

also, have there been situations where you and a woman were talking and you carried on a conversation with them? if they're single, maybe you could have done something with that

i have 2 examples

• i was at pet store looking for shit for a cat i found on the street. i didn't know what i was doing, so a woman that worked there started helping me. she was very talkative, and i could tell she was genuinely trying to help me as a person and not just as a customer. as someone who used to work in a call center, i thought she did a really nice job, and she seemed cool. so at the cash register i decided to say "if you're not doing anything this weekend, maybe we can meet up". she ignored what i said, so i assumed she wasn't interested. but when i got home i noticed she friend requested me on facebook.
• i'm a security guard, and this one woman who is a friend of a tenant was talking my ear off. at first i was annoyed, but i started to realize she was actually pretty cool. the conversation went to a pretty deep level, talking about past relationships, what we want in life, etc. so i decided to ask her out. unfortunately we never did go on a date, and i don't think she was interested, but at least i tried. better than regretting it.

so im actually pretty bad with relationships tbh so this is the best i have.

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Eh, I try to be a decent enough fellow to others (regardless of gender), but I'm not doing it expecting anything in return.
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nothanks1 posted...

I only treat women nicely if they're useful to me in some capactity
same with men

I'm useful to you?

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pojr posted...

have you thought about going to a bar and just not drink? all bars are legally required to carry nonalcoholic beverages.

I don't want to be in a position where I'm not drinking and hitting on people that are.

What I need to do is start going to those board game nights and stuff, but if I do that, am I going there to find someone to match up with or to have fun? I honestly want to just have fun and play games and enjoy the company of others, but when I do that, I don't flirt with anyone because I don't want to cross any lines

And even if I were to get a date, the first one in about 17 years, it would just blow up. I have pretty much zero experience in those situations, so I would just treat them like I treat everyone else. I remember one of the only girls I ever dated, I would never try to have sex with her, and she broke up with me because I made her feel ugly. No, I just didn't want to pressure her into it, so we would just hang out with. I let her make the first move with everything, which goes back to what I said earlier

Bad_Mojo posted...

Toxic Masculinity hurts everyone

Because I'm the, "man," I'm the one that's supposed to leading the way. And always trying to fuck girls. And because of how fucked up the world is, I'm sure she was too afraid to make a move because women who want to have fun get slut shammed.

So yeah, I'm pretty sure I will never go on another date in my life. I'm just too wrapped up in my own head, and I have zero experience with women. And I'm alright with that, it makes me depressed, but having a hot girlfriend isn't going to make me feel better, it would make me feel worse because I'm far too used to just being by myself and doing my own thing

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

I'm useful to you?

Yes, you gave me that alibi