Poll of the Day > Who's playing Humankind here?

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FatalAccident
08/21/21 12:35:39 AM
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like it?
dont like it?

its so hard lol

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FatalAccident
08/21/21 12:35:49 AM
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maybe complicated is the word not hard

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Mead
08/21/21 12:39:28 AM
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Describe it to us using words please

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joemodda
08/21/21 12:42:49 AM
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I'll probably pick it up eventually

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Sahuagin
08/21/21 1:43:07 AM
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definitely like. best Amplitude game so far I'd say. possibly my new favorite 4x game, but then I tend to always like a game in the early stages. I know a lot of people really like Civ 5 but I never really liked it much, and haven't been able to get into Civ 6 yet. (having loved Civ 1-4). this to me finally feels like playing a new Civ game again.

still will take some time to have a final verdict, since not even halfway through this first playthrough so far.

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FatalAccident
08/21/21 2:45:53 AM
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Mead posted...
Describe it to us using words please
Its like Civilization 6 with watered down versions of all the features you get in the Civ 6 expansions.

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Sahuagin
08/21/21 3:13:26 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
Its like Civilization 6 with watered down versions of all the features you get in the Civ 6 expansions.
hmm I don't know enough about Civ 6 to agree or disagree with this... I definitely am enjoying HK more than the bit I played of Civ 6 though.

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FatalAccident
08/22/21 12:29:14 AM
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The game runs like trash though, or is just my PC?

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Sahuagin
08/22/21 12:41:42 AM
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the first time I ran it, it freezed a few times, especially in cutscenes, but it hasn't done it since.

other than that it runs pretty great. (GTX 1060 3GB)

(now that I think of it, the one change I made so far was to change "frame lock" from 90fps down to 60fps. I actually have a 75hz monitor, and was annoyed there wasn't a 75fps option, but things did feel a lot better with it at 60fps. I haven't tried choosing super high or super low graphics settings. (also annoyed that there don't seem to be any advanced graphics options.))

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Sahuagin
08/22/21 1:08:22 AM
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what cultures did you pick?

so far on my first playthrough I've gone Phoenecians -> Aksumites -> Ghanians, which are all Merchant affinity. (didn't really mean to pick it for the money, I think I picked them mostly because I like boats.)

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FatalAccident
08/22/21 2:40:47 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
the first time I ran it, it freezed a few times, especially in cutscenes, but it hasn't done it since.

other than that it runs pretty great. (GTX 1060 3GB) one thing that surprises me so far is how fast turns go. there's like no waiting at all. I guess that will change by end game.

(now that I think of it, the one change I made so far was to change "frame lock" from 90fps down to 60fps. I actually have a 75hz monitor, and was annoyed there wasn't a 75fps option, but things did feel a lot better with it at 60fps. I haven't tried choosing super high or super low graphics settings. (also annoyed that there don't seem to be any advanced graphics options.))


Your build seems similar enough to mine cause I've got Core i7 4790 (4GHz), GTX 980 @ 4GB, 16GB RAM and it still runs like crap :/ I can see tears across the screen during cartoon cut scenes (intro, new era etc.). And generally things feel really not that sharp.

I've gone with 2560x1440 @ 60fps locked. Set quality down to the one below max, and I still get the same. Runs better than it would on 3580x2160 or w/e because with that one the leader animations are just awful.

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FatalAccident
08/22/21 2:44:07 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
what cultures did you pick?

so far on my first playthrough I've gone Phoenecians -> Aksumites -> Ghanians, which are all Merchant affinity. (didn't really mean to pick it for the money, I think I picked them mostly because I like boats.)
This was my second playthrough, first I picked the Assyrians but then I realised I wasn't using their skills much so I restarted.

This time I'm Egyptians>Mayans for the production. Haven't managed to get any further than that cause I just got disheartened by the slowness and clunkiness.

How are you dealing with expanding your empire vs. standing pat?

I had three cities (with some attached territories) then I went to war with two of my neighbours lol and started taking their cities. Now I'm at negative influence, none of my cities wanna produce anything, and my original cities are losing stability lmao

How the hell do you expand without suffering penalties like that? Seems especially tough if you have to go to war too cause you're bound to be taking some territory too.

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Sahuagin
08/22/21 3:06:29 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
Your build seems similar enough to mine cause I've got Core i7 4790 (4GHz), GTX 980 @ 4GB, 16GB RAM and it still runs like crap :/ I can see tears across the screen during cartoon cut scenes (intro, new era etc.). And generally things feel really not that sharp.

I've gone with 2560x1440 @ 60fps locked. Set quality down to the one below max, and I still get the same. Runs better than it would on 3580x2160 or w/e because with that one the leader animations are just awful.
I have an i5-2310 (2nd gen). maybe it's the res? I'm just playing at 1920x1080.

FatalAccident posted...
This was my second playthrough, first I picked the Assyrians but then I realised I wasn't using their skills much so I restarted.

This time I'm Egyptians>Mayans for the production. Haven't managed to get any further than that cause I just got disheartened by the slowness and clunkiness.

How are you dealing with expanding your empire vs. standing pat?

I had three cities (with some attached territories) then I went to war with two of my neighbours lol and started taking their cities. Now I'm at negative influence, none of my cities wanna produce anything, and my original cities are losing stability lmao

How the hell do you expand without suffering penalties like that? Seems especially tough if you have to go to war too cause you're bound to be taking some territory too.
so far I have two cities with lots of attached territories. one city I got "accidentally" by invading an independent. both were at four territories each (including the city one) for a while, though I just added an island to the second one.

I haven't done any war yet. (not that it's a good idea, it's just my playstyle, but usually I play mostly defenseless until an AI decides to be a jerk, and then I go to war relentlessly with that AI if I can and try to completely conquer them. so far no one has been hostile.)

for stability, I guess the idea is that growing will tend to lower stability, but there are always ways to increase it. with garrisons, and later commons quarters you can effectively have as much stability as you want as long as you're willing to build it (though since I think quarters get more and more expensive, it's better to build other things if you can first).

food is similar where food leads to growth, but growth leads to food shortages, so you're always having to keep the food production in check to match growth. so you go back and forth between growing and re-stabilizing. conquering cities probably would take quite a lot of re-stabilizing before the new cities are profitable, but I haven't had to deal with that yet.

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FatalAccident
08/22/21 3:10:54 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
maybe it's the res? I'm just playing at 1920x1080.
i'll try that and see how it goes, gonna fire it up again in a minute

Sahuagin posted...
one city I got "accidentally" by invading an independent
lmao

tbf your play style is similar to how i like to play, that's usually default. I just tend to get paranoid and nervous whenever I run into a nearby neighbour so I just hit them pre-emptively

I'll restart this game cause the stability and negative influence is a big bummer

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FatalAccident
08/22/21 3:17:35 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
one thing that surprises me so far is how fast turns go.
also yeah how fast do them turns go

jesus, sometimes it's instant. I'm used to waiting at least 15 seconds on Civ 6, maybe up to 30 seconds in the later eras on some larger games.

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FatalAccident
08/22/21 4:49:48 AM
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nope, couldn't do it man.

I don't find it as engaging as something like Civ 6.

I might give it another go in a few weeks or months once I've started missing it a little bit but for now issa no from me dawg

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Sahuagin
08/22/21 1:15:01 PM
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aw

it's true I might have a different view of it if I was coming from Civ 6, which I didn't really get into, and I didn't really like Civ 5 much.

instead this feels like a huge step up from Endless Legend (which is kind of like this game in a fantasy setting)

I'll need to give Civ 6 another go at some point

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