criticise religion without being a fuckwit

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MrMallard 08/08/21 4:47:06 PM #1:	Fuckwit as in not only do you not believe in religion and make a big show out of criticising it as stupid, irrational and unethical, but you use your so-called superior rationality to be the most insufferable sack of shit possible and push your own brand of close-mindedness and bigotry? In particular, do you remember when you could call yourself an atheist and not be associated with redpilled neckbeards whose brains have been deep-fried by far-right rhetoric? Dipshits like The Amazing Atheist ruined things for a pretty long time. I've been listening to a lot of Tim Minchin, who rips into Christianity with a particular zeal - but he's a very sharp, entertaining guy whose atheism was never tempered with "wow, feminazis amirite guys". Like here's a song where he compares Jesus Christ to a Komodo Dragon because he was produced through parthenogenesis: https://youtu.be/uY1jSWy4Eck and here's a song about how religion perpetuates confirmation bias through the belief in miracles despite all the suffering in the world: https://youtu.be/IZeWPScnolo And here's a goofy arena rock pastiche about taking canvas bags to the supermarket instead of using plastic ones: https://youtu.be/hFgtIziShmc It's like somewhere along the way, people became so wrapped up in ideology that they lost the ability to laugh at themselves as well as others in a good-natured way, and it's resulted in the proliferation of the far-right and a skewing of the left to go further left in response. We went from "hey, Jesus has a lot in common with Woody Allen, doesn't he? And he's kinda like a zombie too, if you think about it - and a Komodo Dragon, too..." to "IT'S MR POTATO HEAD, YOU CULTURAL MARXISTS. JESUS NEVER EXISTED, FEMINAZIS RUINED VIDEO GAMES AND THE CULTURAL MARXISTS TOOK AWAY MR POTATO HEAD". The worst part is how much the term "satire" has been dragged through the mud by this transition. Something like these songs by Tim Minchin are satire. The people who were swayed by truly good satirism into atheism or other provocative causes have continued to drag the term "satire" down with them as they descend into far-right ways of thinking. People began using it as a get out of jail free card or a defense against slander/libel accusations, even when whatever they said wasn't funny. I mean shit, after the January 6th insurrection attempt, there were qanon people going "everything I said was satire and not intended to be indicative of reality" to try and slip out of the ensuing backlash. Like no, you genuinely bought into a batshit crazy conspiracy theory that started with a genuine assertion that Hillary Clinton was funding a child sex ring underneath a pizza parlour, and the effects of that conspiracy have driven radicalized individuals into neo-nazi groups and militias - and neo-nazi militias. Satire isn't an adequate defense against the proliferation of that violent, reactionary rhetoric. And the thing about an actual satirist, or a genuine, committed atheist, is that they stay committed to the bit but they don't use it as a diving board or an excuse for more and more reactionary rhetoric. They're not in it for the rapidly devolving community. They're in it because they have a point of view, and they speak truth to power about their core beliefs. Tim Minchin didn't become a qanon shit-sucker, he remained a popular entertainer and wrote a bunch of musicals and everything. He's still active, and while his new material is a lot more serious, he's still as sharp and charismatic as he was in his heyday. Plenty of satirists and vocal atheists, like Stephen Fry, have remained topical and relevant without succumbing to terminal brain fungus. It's these mouth breathers in the "critic community", fuckin clearance-rack entertainers who lacked any of the critical thinking skills to genuinely engage with what their forebearers were saying in favour of going "haha Jesus Komodo Dragon funny", who were swayed into movements and points of view that skewed further and further right. It was never about rationality or intellectual honesty, it was about attention. And seeing people like Tim Minchin, with songs like Woody Allen Jesus that are as scathing as they are entertaining and self-deprecating, just makes that difference so much more striking. It highlights the dire fucking straits these vacuous shitheads have gotten us into, where self-reflection and critical thought has been replaced with tribalism and empty "gotcha" moments. It's a further condemnation of what it means to be an atheist, or a satirist, or a critic. Like, there was a point where I was ashamed to consider myself an atheist because of sacks of shit like The Amazing Atheist, the same way GameFAQs users who swarm Zelda boards to talk shit and rig every site-wide quiz to favor Ocarina of Time made me ashamed to call myself a gamer. And it's only through acknowledging better people than them whose integrity was something worth believing in that I've managed to shed any of that baggage. Though frankly, calling yourself a gamer past your teenage years is always gonna be super cringy, even if Satoru Iwata was an incredible guy with an incredible marketing speech about the label. There's a point here somewhere but I've said everything I really wanted to communicate. Tim Minchin is really good, I can say that much with certainty. --- But I don't have to make this mistake, and I don't have to stay this way. Now Playing: Persona 5 Strikers, Oxenfree, Oldschool Runescape <cite>MrMallard posted [p:956898872] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>Fuckwit as in not only do you not believe in religion and make a big show out of criticising it as stupid, irrational and unethical, but you use your so-called superior rationality to be the most insufferable sack of shit possible and push your own brand of close-mindedness and bigotry? In particular, do you remember when you could call yourself an atheist and not be associated with redpilled neckbeards whose brains have been deep-fried by far-right rhetoric? Dipshits like The Amazing Atheist ruined things for a pretty long time. I've been listening to a lot of Tim Minchin, who rips into Christianity with a particular zeal - but he's a very sharp, entertaining guy whose atheism was never tempered with "wow, feminazis amirite guys". Like here's a song where he compares Jesus Christ to a Komodo Dragon because he was produced through parthenogenesis: https://youtu.be/uY1jSWy4Eck and here's a song about how religion perpetuates confirmation bias through the belief in miracles despite all the suffering in the world: https://youtu.be/IZeWPScnolo And here's a goofy arena rock pastiche about taking canvas bags to the supermarket instead of using plastic ones: https://youtu.be/hFgtIziShmc It's like somewhere along the way, people became so wrapped up in ideology that they lost the ability to laugh at themselves as well as others in a good-natured way, and it's resulted in the proliferation of the far-right and a skewing of the left to go further left in response. We went from "hey, Jesus has a lot in common with Woody Allen, doesn't he? And he's kinda like a zombie too, if you think about it - and a Komodo Dragon, too..." to "IT'S MR POTATO HEAD, YOU CULTURAL MARXISTS. JESUS NEVER EXISTED, FEMINAZIS RUINED VIDEO GAMES AND THE CULTURAL MARXISTS TOOK AWAY MR POTATO HEAD". The worst part is how much the term "satire" has been dragged through the mud by this transition. Something like these songs by Tim Minchin are satire. The people who were swayed by truly good satirism into atheism or other provocative causes have continued to drag the term "satire" down with them as they descend into far-right ways of thinking. People began using it as a get out of jail free card or a defense against slander/libel accusations, even when whatever they said wasn't funny. I mean shit, after the January 6th insurrection attempt, there were qanon people going "everything I said was satire and not intended to be indicative of reality" to try and slip out of the ensuing backlash. Like no, you genuinely bought into a batshit crazy conspiracy theory that started with a genuine assertion that Hillary Clinton was funding a child sex ring underneath a pizza parlour, and the effects of that conspiracy have driven radicalized individuals into neo-nazi groups and militias - and neo-nazi militias. Satire isn't an adequate defense against the proliferation of that violent, reactionary rhetoric. And the thing about an actual satirist, or a genuine, committed atheist, is that they stay committed to the bit but they don't use it as a diving board or an excuse for more and more reactionary rhetoric. They're not in it for the rapidly devolving community. They're in it because they have a point of view, and they speak truth to power about their core beliefs. Tim Minchin didn't become a qanon shit-sucker, he remained a popular entertainer and wrote a bunch of musicals and everything. He's still active, and while his new material is a lot more serious, he's still as sharp and charismatic as he was in his heyday. Plenty of satirists and vocal atheists, like Stephen Fry, have remained topical and relevant without succumbing to terminal brain fungus. It's these mouth breathers in the "critic community", fuckin clearance-rack entertainers who lacked any of the critical thinking skills to genuinely engage with what their forebearers were saying in favour of going "haha Jesus Komodo Dragon funny", who were swayed into movements and points of view that skewed further and further right. It was never about rationality or intellectual honesty, it was about attention. And seeing people like Tim Minchin, with songs like Woody Allen Jesus that are as scathing as they are entertaining and self-deprecating, just makes that difference so much more striking. It highlights the dire fucking straits these vacuous shitheads have gotten us into, where self-reflection and critical thought has been replaced with tribalism and empty "gotcha" moments. It's a further condemnation of what it means to be an atheist, or a satirist, or a critic. Like, there was a point where I was ashamed to consider myself an atheist because of sacks of shit like The Amazing Atheist, the same way GameFAQs users who swarm Zelda boards to talk shit and rig every site-wide quiz to favor Ocarina of Time made me ashamed to call myself a gamer. And it's only through acknowledging better people than them whose integrity was something worth believing in that I've managed to shed any of that baggage. Though frankly, calling yourself a gamer past your teenage years is always gonna be super cringy, even if Satoru Iwata was an incredible guy with an incredible marketing speech about the label. There's a point here somewhere but I've said everything I really wanted to communicate. Tim Minchin is really good, I can say that much with certainty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/08/21 4:49:47 PM #2:	I haven't really noticed much change if anything the "Atheist community " is less toxic and hostile than it was in the mid 2000s with the "You worship a zombie who wants you to eat his flesh and I'm the crazy one!?" attitudes online Social media has caused an explosion of religious discussions for better and worse --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:956898943] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>I haven't really noticed much change if anything the "Atheist community " is less toxic and hostile than it was in the mid 2000s with the "You worship a zombie who wants you to eat his flesh and I'm the crazy one!?" attitudes online Social media has caused an explosion of religious discussions for better and worse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 08/08/21 5:19:09 PM #4:	MrMallard posted... Tim Minchin is really good, I can say that much with certainty. Honestly the worst part of this post. He is far better than really good you heathen and I will fight you on this. But yes, sadly the internet has allowed "the bad" to rise and taint everything else with it, by giving them wide audiences that are then funnelled back to said content by the all mighty, all knowing, all loving algorithm. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:956899781] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted... </cite> <quote>Tim Minchin is really good, I can say that much with certainty.</quote>Honestly the worst part of this post. He is far better than really good you heathen and I will fight you on this. But yes, sadly the internet has allowed "the bad" to rise and taint everything else with it, by giving them wide audiences that are then funnelled back to said content by the all mighty, all knowing, all loving algorithm. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 08/08/21 5:23:10 PM #5:	MrMallard posted... Fuckwit as in not only do you not believe in religion and make a big show out of criticising it as stupid, irrational and unethical, but you use your so-called superior rationality to be the most insufferable sack of shit possible and push your own brand of close-mindedness and bigotry? I didnt read the rest but this sort of mindset is prevalent on the internet when it comes peoples opinions about anything, regardless whether its sports or politics. People just have a strong emotional attachment to their beliefs and are insecure enough to lash out at anyone who even mildly disagrees with them. --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:956899863] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted... </cite> <quote>Fuckwit as in not only do you not believe in religion and make a big show out of criticising it as stupid, irrational and unethical, but you use your so-called superior rationality to be the most insufferable sack of shit possible and push your own brand of close-mindedness and bigotry?</quote> I didnt read the rest but this sort of mindset is prevalent on the internet when it comes peoples opinions about anything, regardless whether its sports or politics. People just have a strong emotional attachment to their beliefs and are insecure enough to lash out at anyone who even mildly disagrees with them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate reaver 08/08/21 5:28:25 PM #7:	--- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:956900004] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funcoland 08/08/21 5:31:32 PM #8:	The internet atheist community were always sort of "fuckwits", for multiple reasons. For one, they relate all religion to a very specific, usually American, strain of evangelical protestantism. Or radical Islam, if they want to add some racism to their general douchebaggery. Two, they weren't nearly as learned as they pretended they were. They didn't know technology did indeed continue during the so-called dark ages and refuse to see the secular reasoning for religious wars, which often played a major part. --- NNID: MisterNoOne \| PSN: The_Mistled <cite>Funcoland posted [p:956900091] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>The internet atheist community were always sort of "fuckwits", for multiple reasons. For one, they relate all religion to a very specific, usually American, strain of evangelical protestantism. Or radical Islam, if they want to add some racism to their general douchebaggery. Two, they weren't nearly as learned as they pretended they were. They didn't know technology did indeed continue during the so-called dark ages and refuse to see the secular reasoning for religious wars, which often played a major part. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Njolk 08/08/21 5:34:02 PM #9:	Even debating it is ridiculous, like trying to argue with a flat earther They don't work on logic, you can't logic then out of it --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever <cite>Njolk posted [p:956900153] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>Even debating it is ridiculous, like trying to argue with a flat earther They don't work on logic, you can't logic then out of it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 08/08/21 5:38:55 PM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... if anything the "Atheist community " is less toxic and hostile than it was in the mid 2000s with the "You worship a zombie who wants you to eat his flesh and I'm the crazy one!?" attitudes online We have people still stay shit like that every day here --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:956900271] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>if anything the "Atheist community " is less toxic and hostile than it was in the mid 2000s with the "You worship a zombie who wants you to eat his flesh and I'm the crazy one!?" attitudes online</quote>We have people still stay shit like that every day here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tsukasa1891 08/08/21 5:39:32 PM #11:	tl;dr. --- (edited 2/30/2021 10:51:12 AM) <cite>Tsukasa1891 posted [p:956900299] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>tl;dr. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 08/08/21 5:43:45 PM #12:	The people obsessing over atheism moved on to wokeness & talking about socialism/communism --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:956900402] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>The people obsessing over atheism moved on to wokeness & talking about socialism/communism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 08/08/21 5:49:54 PM #13:	You know why and when Atheism became a joke? Reddit in 2014 Reddit is the no. 1 reason Atheism got a very negative stigma. It was the tipping point. Specifically on r/atheism. I know i'm gonna get a bunch of fedora tippers on me saying "r/atheism doesn't represent all atheists" but a fact of the matter is, its probably one of the biggest atheist hotspot on the web, since it has over 2 million members as i'm speaking. Just like some crazy televangelists claim they can cure autism with prayer and then making all Christians look bad, r/atheism is practically the same for atheists. Its filled with smug snarky jackasses who do nothing but bitch about their parents making them go to church when they were young. As a result, it became a big circlejerk of people sniffing their own farts. Then, it all came crashing down when [LFAQs-redacted-quote] This post was made on there. It was then, the collective consciousness realized, these people are absolutely full of themselves and not worth listening to. To this day, even the vast majority of nonreligious people don't want to be called atheists because it has a negative stigma to it because of these people. Just like crazy religious people. --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:956900588] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>You know why and when Atheism became a joke? Reddit in 2014 Reddit is the no. 1 reason Atheism got a very negative stigma. It was the tipping point. Specifically on r/atheism. I know i'm gonna get a bunch of fedora tippers on me saying "r/atheism doesn't represent all atheists" but a fact of the matter is, its probably one of the biggest atheist hotspot on the web, since it has over 2 million members as i'm speaking. Just like some crazy televangelists claim they can cure autism with prayer and then making all Christians look bad, r/atheism is practically the same for atheists. Its filled with smug snarky jackasses who do nothing but bitch about their parents making them go to church when they were young. As a result, it became a big circlejerk of people sniffing their own farts. Then, it all came crashing down when <cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This post was made on there. It was then, the collective consciousness realized, these people are absolutely full of themselves and not worth listening to. To this day, even the vast majority of nonreligious people don't want to be called atheists because it has a negative stigma to it because of these people. Just like crazy religious people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMallard 08/08/21 11:54:37 PM #14:	On an unrelated note, it's my birthday today. I've been making a lot of these wall of text threads lately and I recently vowed to step away from CE for a while because the more I write the less I seem to say, but I thought I'd indulge in this one as a treat. --- But I don't have to make this mistake, and I don't have to stay this way. Now Playing: Persona 5 Strikers, Oxenfree, Oldschool Runescape <cite>MrMallard posted [p:956910034] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>On an unrelated note, it's my birthday today. I've been making a lot of these wall of text threads lately and I recently vowed to step away from CE for a while because the more I write the less I seem to say, but I thought I'd indulge in this one as a treat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 08/09/21 12:04:14 AM #15:	Because talking about atheism online is often like talking about why you hate a movie. Someone says "I like that one movie" and you go off on them. "WHAT YOU LIKE THAT MOVIE!! ARE you stupid!?" "I like Jesus" "WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER ARE you stupid!?!" Like, many atheists don't see a christain post and go off, they just ignore it. <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:956910217] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>Because talking about atheism online is often like talking about why you hate a movie. Someone says "I like that one movie" and you go off on them. "WHAT YOU LIKE THAT MOVIE!! ARE you stupid!?" "I like Jesus" "WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER ARE you stupid!?!" Like, many atheists don't see a christain post and go off, they just ignore it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/09/21 4:32:59 AM #16:	WingsOfGood posted... Because talking about atheism online is often like talking about why you hate a movie. Someone says "I like that one movie" and you go off on them. "WHAT YOU LIKE THAT MOVIE!! ARE you stupid!?" "I like Jesus" "WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER ARE you stupid!?!" Like, many atheists don't see a christain post and go off, they just ignore it. Its almost like the society they live in, the laws they have to abide by, the wars their family are killed in are all being dictated by religious people All while the same religious people get away Scott free after committing mass child rape, stealing money and other offenses while demonising gays But no sure its the same as having opinions about movies. They put "In Jack Sparrow We trust " on money, put Star Wars quotes on court walls and make children state a pledge of allegiance that pledges obedience to one nation under Shrek I think your comparison is a little ridiculous Hell most of the current anti vax, anti mask covid denial stuff is based off the back of religion --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:956913742] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite> <quote>Because talking about atheism online is often like talking about why you hate a movie. Someone says "I like that one movie" and you go off on them. "WHAT YOU LIKE THAT MOVIE!! ARE you stupid!?" "I like Jesus" "WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER ARE you stupid!?!" Like, many atheists don't see a christain post and go off, they just ignore it.</quote>Its almost like the society they live in, the laws they have to abide by, the wars their family are killed in are all being dictated by religious people All while the same religious people get away Scott free after committing mass child rape, stealing money and other offenses while demonising gays But no sure its the same as having opinions about movies. They put "In Jack Sparrow We trust " on money, put Star Wars quotes on court walls and make children state a pledge of allegiance that pledges obedience to one nation under Shrek I think your comparison is a little ridiculous Hell most of the current anti vax, anti mask covid denial stuff is based off the back of religion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/09/21 4:36:01 AM #17:	If you're a typical American atheist, the primary way religion impacts your life is by really stupid politicians doing stupid shit. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:956913767] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>If you're a typical American atheist, the primary way religion impacts your life is by really stupid politicians doing stupid shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xethuminra 08/09/21 4:38:25 AM #18:	Holy irony, Batman <cite>Xethuminra posted [p:956913782] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>Holy irony, Batman </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMolinaro 08/09/21 4:40:40 AM #19:	Yes, I remember today. I remember most of it, at least. <cite>MrMolinaro posted [p:956913812] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>Yes, I remember today. I remember most of it, at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 08/09/21 12:31:07 PM #20:	UnfairRepresent posted... But no sure its the same as having opinions about movies. They put "In Jack Sparrow We trust " on money, put Star Wars quotes on court walls and make children state a pledge of allegiance that pledges obedience to one nation under Shrek You can tell how edgy someone is purely based if they get offended by "IN GOD WE TRUST" being on currency. I get it, your parents made you go to church when you were younger, the rest of your post is just projecting onto everything else because you still haven't gotten over it. They can't hurt you anymore. --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:956921533] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>But no sure its the same as having opinions about movies. They put "In Jack Sparrow We trust " on money, put Star Wars quotes on court walls and make children state a pledge of allegiance that pledges obedience to one nation under Shrek</quote>You can tell how edgy someone is purely based if they get offended by "IN GOD WE TRUST" being on currency. I get it, your parents made you go to church when you were younger, the rest of your post is just projecting onto everything else because you still haven't gotten over it. They can't hurt you anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CoolMaskGuy 08/09/21 12:33:47 PM #21:	UnfairRepresent posted... I haven't really noticed much change if anything the "Atheist community " is less toxic and hostile than it was in the mid 2000s with the "You worship a zombie who wants you to eat his flesh and I'm the crazy one!?" attitudes online Social media has caused an explosion of religious discussions for better and worse Yeah the whole online atheist community used to be way more abrasive than it currently is. It peaked in toxicity like early 2010s. I mean it's still there to some extent but there seems to be way less fedora wearing atheists enlightened by their own intelligence. <cite>CoolMaskGuy posted [p:956921608] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>I haven't really noticed much change if anything the "Atheist community " is less toxic and hostile than it was in the mid 2000s with the "You worship a zombie who wants you to eat his flesh and I'm the crazy one!?" attitudes online Social media has caused an explosion of religious discussions for better and worse</quote> Yeah the whole online atheist community used to be way more abrasive than it currently is. It peaked in toxicity like early 2010s. I mean it's still there to some extent but there seems to be way less fedora wearing atheists enlightened by their own intelligence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guide 08/09/21 12:52:56 PM #22:	CoolMaskGuy posted... Yeah the whole online atheist community used to be way more abrasive than it currently is. It peaked in toxicity like early 2010s. I mean it's still there to some extent but there seems to be way less fedora wearing atheists enlightened by their own intelligence. I'll even give them some credit, at least in the 2000s, for pushing stuff like the FSM so hard. It was the first real chance for the unbelieving, unorganized population to speak their piece in a culture that was much more dominated by a specifically American brand of quasi-Christian culture. Remember when "don't ask, don't tell" was seen as a progressive step? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:956922119] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>CoolMaskGuy posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah the whole online atheist community used to be way more abrasive than it currently is. It peaked in toxicity like early 2010s. I mean it's still there to some extent but there seems to be way less fedora wearing atheists enlightened by their own intelligence.</quote> I'll even give them some credit, at least in the 2000s, for pushing stuff like the FSM so hard. It was the first real chance for the unbelieving, unorganized population to speak their piece in a culture that was much more dominated by a specifically American brand of quasi-Christian culture. Remember when "don't ask, don't tell" was seen as a progressive step? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 08/09/21 12:57:25 PM #23:	MrMallard posted... atheist and not be associated with redpilled neckbeards whose brains have been deep-fried by far-right rhetoric? Pretty sure right wingers usually arent openly atheist lol --- Long Term Effects of Suffering - 8/13/21 #G59 <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:956922260] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted... </cite> <quote>atheist and not be associated with redpilled neckbeards whose brains have been deep-fried by far-right rhetoric?</quote> Pretty sure right wingers usually arent openly atheist lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 08/09/21 1:11:21 PM #25:	JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... Its almost like the nonreligious were religious about it all along. I don't remember you making stupid posts. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU <cite>Guide posted [p:956922639] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>JACKBUTTMOMMY posted... </cite> <quote>Its almost like the nonreligious were religious about it all along.</quote> I don't remember you making stupid posts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 08/09/21 1:15:51 PM #27:	MrMallard posted... On an unrelated note, it's my birthday today. I've been making a lot of these wall of text threads lately and I recently vowed to step away from CE for a while because the more I write the less I seem to say, but I thought I'd indulge in this one as a treat. Happy birthday dude, perfect time to let yourself go off --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:956922766] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>MrMallard posted... </cite> <quote>On an unrelated note, it's my birthday today. I've been making a lot of these wall of text threads lately and I recently vowed to step away from CE for a while because the more I write the less I seem to say, but I thought I'd indulge in this one as a treat.</quote>Happy birthday dude, perfect time to let yourself go off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Criminalt 08/09/21 1:17:19 PM #28:	It's important to recognise that criticising organised religion doesn't label you as a fuckwit. It's just the way you choose to criticise that does that. --- Take me to the dark <cite>Criminalt posted [p:956922807] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>It's important to recognise that criticising organised religion doesn't label you as a fuckwit. It's just the way you choose to criticise that does that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MushroomMuncher 08/09/21 1:40:46 PM #29:	Criminalt posted... It's important to recognise that criticising organised religion doesn't label you as a fuckwit. It's just the way you choose to criticise that does that. Well there's different ways to go about it. There are probably millions of people who still believe in a God but cannot stand organized religion due to how toxic it is. But the majority of atheists online are like "God not real, nobody cares about you, stop being stupid and become depressed and nihilistic, like me" --- Do I look like I know what a jpeg is <cite>MushroomMuncher posted [p:956923525] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>Criminalt posted... </cite> <quote>It's important to recognise that criticising organised religion doesn't label you as a fuckwit. It's just the way you choose to criticise that does that.</quote>Well there's different ways to go about it. There are probably millions of people who still believe in a God but cannot stand organized religion due to how toxic it is. But the majority of atheists online are like "God not real, nobody cares about you, stop being stupid and become depressed and nihilistic, like me" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Criminalt 08/09/21 1:57:47 PM #30:	MushroomMuncher posted... Well there's different ways to go about it. There are probably millions of people who still believe in a God but cannot stand organized religion due to how toxic it is. But the majority of atheists online are like "God not real, nobody cares about you, stop being stupid and become depressed and nihilistic, like me" I think that's what happens whenever someone asserts a bogus authority because they're fired up with an impossible, absolute certainty that won't admit a sliver of doubt. Anyone who insists, "I know for a fact that there's no deity out there..." is really making a boast as absurd as any bonehead pulpit-thumper who rants, "I know the incontrovertible truth, that God exists..." --- Take me to the dark <cite>Criminalt posted [p:956924018] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>MushroomMuncher posted... </cite> <quote>Well there's different ways to go about it. There are probably millions of people who still believe in a God but cannot stand organized religion due to how toxic it is. But the majority of atheists online are like "God not real, nobody cares about you, stop being stupid and become depressed and nihilistic, like me"</quote>I think that's what happens whenever someone asserts a bogus authority because they're fired up with an impossible, absolute certainty that won't admit a sliver of doubt. Anyone who insists, "I know for a fact that there's no deity out there..." is really making a boast as absurd as any bonehead pulpit-thumper who rants, "I know the incontrovertible truth, that God exists..." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 08/09/21 2:05:06 PM #31:	Occasionally I'll watch YouTube videos of the four horsemen of atheism (Dawkins, Hitchens RIP, Harris and Dennett). It's refreshing. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:956924195] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>Occasionally I'll watch YouTube videos of the four horsemen of atheism (Dawkins, Hitchens RIP, Harris and Dennett). It's refreshing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrToothHasYou 08/09/21 2:13:06 PM #32:	SSJPurple posted... Pretty sure right wingers usually arent openly atheist lol There was a definite pipeline on the internet in the 2010s that took you from online atheist to redpilled white nationalist, usually by way of anti-SJW sentiment, but also through Islamophobia. --- An Injury to One is an Injury to All https://iww.org/ <cite>MrToothHasYou posted [p:956924409] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>SSJPurple posted... </cite> <quote>Pretty sure right wingers usually arent openly atheist lol</quote>There was a definite pipeline on the internet in the 2010s that took you from online atheist to redpilled white nationalist, usually by way of anti-SJW sentiment, but also through Islamophobia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 08/09/21 2:38:02 PM #33:	The youtube skeptic community has absolutely went the "anti-sjw" route... because that's where the money is at. Religion has certainly lost a lot of credibilities among the younger generation, hence why the skeptic community is chasing after the anti-woke crowd, the two biggest examples being the AmazingAtheist and Sargon of Akkad. But yeah Atheism was at its biggest tryhard during the early internet age because it was one of the few bastions where atheists can truly express themselves... which led to a lot of angstheist. But like someone said Atheism absolutely took a hit during the 2014 when the "euphoric" meme took off because it showed that a lot of these atheists were very full of themselves. As an Atheist myself, I try my best to not go down the angstheist route, but I will still call out what I consider to be Bullshit in religion, especially when Politicians would try to use it to justify shitty laws and behaviors. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:956925180] in Remember w... [t:79604660]...</cite> <quote>The youtube skeptic community has absolutely went the "anti-sjw" route... because that's where the money is at. Religion has certainly lost a lot of credibilities among the younger generation, hence why the skeptic community is chasing after the anti-woke crowd, the two biggest examples being the AmazingAtheist and Sargon of Akkad. But yeah Atheism was at its biggest tryhard during the early internet age because it was one of the few bastions where atheists can truly express themselves... which led to a lot of angstheist. But like someone said Atheism absolutely took a hit during the 2014 when the "euphoric" meme took off because it showed that a lot of these atheists were very full of themselves. As an Atheist myself, I try my best to not go down the angstheist route, but I will still call out what I consider to be Bullshit in religion, especially when Politicians would try to use it to justify shitty laws and behaviors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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