Current Events > Movies being released on streaming services are a boon to pirates

(+) Yeah! (+)

wonder if Hollywood realises this.

whereas in pre-covid, pirates would have to wait months for a movie's DVD release to get a HD ripped version, they can now get one instantly due to streaming services delivered straight to their laptops.
at this point, why even bother subscribing to HBO Max or Disney Plus when you can board the pirate ship, amirite

No thanks I like paying for my stuff it's just $10 anyways or $15 I don't keep track I just let them take my money away.

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Piracy is still not really worth it for most people because relatively speaking, it's still not easily accessible.

People are way too lazy and would rather throw on Netflix. Some are so lazy, they won't even sign up for another service and just find something similar on Netflix.

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The movies are pretty bad nowadays so knock yourselves out! :D

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El Mexicano Texano posted...

No thanks I like paying for my stuff it's just $10 anyways or $15 I don't keep track I just let them take my money away.

that's how you slowly fall for their ploy. One day subscription prices will increase and you wont even notice it

archedsoul posted...

Piracy is still not really worth it for most people because relatively speaking, it's still not easily accessible.

People are way too lazy and would rather throw on Netflix. Some are so lazy, they won't even sign up for another service and just find something similar on Netflix.

Its very easily accessible. Theres a million different sites for it and new ones pop up all the time

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Mackorov posted...

that's how you slowly fall for their ploy. One day subscription prices will increase and you wont even notice it

They don't put a dent a on my wallet and I do watch them. A $1-$3 won't make a difference to me I'll find it odd if it jumps to $5 out if the blue but not for less unless it happens very often in which case it doesn't. On the contrary I have the Disney/Hulu/ESPN bundle and it's much cheaper than when I had Disney and Hulu only.


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Actually HBO bringing Mortal Kombat and Godzilla vs Kong to their service got a sub from me they otherwise wouldnt have

Yes I didnt renew after that month but they still got more money from me than they would have with theatrical only releases.

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Feline_Heart posted...

Its very easily accessible. Theres a million different sites for it and new ones pop up all the time

That's precisely why I used relatively. The average person is not fiddling around on sites to watch ad filled crap. Or going around solving captchas and shit to download it. Or constantly changing sources on their sticks.

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Feline_Heart posted...

Its very easily accessible. Theres a million different sites for it and new ones pop up all the time

no it isnt. Its not like the early 2000s where you just have to download kazaa or something.

you have to have a client, a site, a vpn, and knowledge of file types. Its easier to just pay netflix 10 bucks a month for the average person.


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Pirate sites are shady as fuck

I4NRulez posted...

you have to have a client, a site, a vpn, and knowledge of file types. Its easier to just pay netflix 10 bucks a month for the average person.

You're making it sound way more complicated than it is lol. Also a VPN isn't necessary unless the ISP sends threats, most don't anymore.
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voldothegr8 posted...

You're making it sound way more complicated than it is lol. Also a VPN isn't necessary unless the ISP sends threats, most don't anymore.

Thats not true, i worked for Spectrum for 6 years and up until last year we popped so many people for it.

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I4NRulez posted...

no it isnt. Its not like the early 2000s where you just have to download kazaa or something.

you have to have a client, a site, a vpn, and knowledge of file types. Its easier to just pay netflix 10 bucks a month for the average person.

Download qBittorrent > Search any movie or tv show you want > download > watch

Doesn't really need to be any more complicated than that. If anything it's easier than it was in the early 2000s Limewire days where half of what you download was abject malware. 99% of the world doesn't need a VPN to torrent and even if you live in a place with an ISP who sends you a mean letter about it they're almost always just posturing. They'd rather not actually lose customers.

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I4NRulez posted...

no it isnt. Its not like the early 2000s where you just have to download kazaa or something.

you have to have a client, a site, a vpn, and knowledge of file types. Its easier to just pay netflix 10 bucks a month for the average person.

You really don't need all that. You just need to know where to look but sites have them just streaming, no download required.

But services like Hulu or Netflix are more secure and easier to access and like $10-$15 a month shouldn't be a backbreaking rate for the amount of viewing material you gain access to via legal means. Back when you had to pay like $5 per movie to rent it or outright buy the movie there was a little more incentive to pirate since those can add up if you like to watch a lot of movies but that's not really the case anymore.

As far as pirating movies still in theaters, yeah I suppose releasing them on streaming services is easier for the pirates, but the same rationale applies here. Movie tickets plus concessions could rack up a sizeable tab so there was more of an incentive to pirate if you really wanted to watch the movie. But these days a month of paying for a streaming service is cheaper than a night out at the movies so them being released on said services, while it's easier for the pirates to upload them, it also lessens the incentive for the consumer to pirate at all

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Kuuko posted...

even if you live in a place with an ISP who sends you a mean letter about it they're almost always just posturing. They'd rather not actually lose customers.

This is just not true in the US. The US is run by only a couple of ISPs and most of them do cut you off, and some do it the first time temporarily, but you do have to speak to specific departments to lift it during specific times. And then it gets permanent.

Regardless, not sure what point people are getting to by showing how easily they pirate. The average person is not doing any of that shit and it's much easier to pay $10 a month like the other people said.

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archedsoul posted...

This is just not true in the US. The US is run by only a couple of ISPs and most of them do cut you off, and some do it the first time temporarily, but you do have to speak to specific departments to lift it during specific times. And then it gets permanent.

Regardless, not sure what point people are getting to by showing how easily they pirate. The average person is not doing any of that shit and it's much easier to pay $10 a month like the other people said.

Ok well I've lived in a few major metropolitan areas run by those few ISPs over my life and I've yet to see it happen. I'm sure there are many more on CE who can attest.

The point is that it was made out to be hard. And it's not hard. That's all. You could argue "downloading a program is hard for the average person" if we want to though.

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Nah, Im not in high school. Id rather support a movie I like by getting them money. Also, I can just open it up on my tv and chill. I would have to put it on a laptop and then haul it over to my tv setup and unplug and replug hdmi cables

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Kuuko posted...

Ok well I've lived in a few major metropolitan areas run by those few ISPs over my life and I've yet to see it happen. I'm sure there are many more on CE who can attest.

Why would I need CE to attest? Xfinity, Spectrum, AT&T, CenturyLink, Cox and Optimum have people sharing all over the internet what happened with them. There's also a CEman in this topic who confirmed it by working for Spectrum. The only one we know that truly stopped giving a fuck is Verizon.

Kuuko posted...

The point is that it was made out to be hard. And it's not hard. That's all. You could argue "downloading a program is hard for the average person" if we want to though.

Yes, the average person is not downloading programs. Why are you thinking like everybody is some geek that's gonna go through all that? Especially at these cheap costs?

Regular people just want to watch things immediately on their TV.

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You deserve those notices if you torrent without vpn or ddl/stream on a non https site.

Mr Hangman posted...

Pirates typically would find a way to get movies well before DVD releases. Guessing TC has never bothered to look. And of course Hollywood is aware of piracy. You think they'll make more money if they go back to restricting releases to theaters when no one is going to theaters? You've thought 0 steps ahead.

no they don't. The most they can get is a webcam version, which still suffers from hard-coded subs or bad video quality.

I have a feeling you haven't tried pirating before

unnamedsoldier posted...

Pirate sites are shady as fuck

only people who's never used them think that lol

99% of the torrents there are safe. Especially if you go for top-seeded downloads (TPB marks trusted uploaders with a pirate icon)

This generation of people who don't feel like they need to pay for anything (music/games/movies) is infuriating.

Mackorov posted...

whereas in pre-covid, pirates would have to wait months for a movie's DVD release to get a HD ripped version

Lol this was only generally true for the more obscure titles. Major ones found their way onto the internet very quickly - my guess is stolen (or perhaps even just borrowed) discs from the theaters?

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Mr Hangman posted...

The generation of people who feel like authors' monopolies that extend for life plus 70 years is justified and more valuable than free flow of information is infuriating.

So movie studios are supposed to spend $200 million on a movie and be cool with people bootlegging it for free?

Derwood posted...

So movie studios are supposed to spend $200 million on a movie and be cool with people bootlegging it for free?

Its the risk they take when making am investment. They are like landlords. Maybe their customers don't want to pay.

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Mr Hangman posted...

They should provide a product worth paying for. Some video game studios, like Valve, understand that. The music industry has had to learn this lesson kicking and screaming, but artists mostly understand it now. Media which is easier to pirate and which the creators have less money to litigate have hardly stopped being created, stopped being good, or stopped being profitable.

Music itself isn't profitable at all with streaming services. Musicians have had to pivot towards higher ticket prices for concerts and $50 t-shirts

Mr Hangman posted...

Oh no, concerts and t-shirts, the humanity. They deserve what they can convince people to pay them and nothing more. They don't deserve the state extorting money from them by artificially making a scarce resource out of an unlimited one.

This sure is a theory

Derwood posted...

Music itself isn't profitable at all with streaming services. Musicians have had to pivot towards higher ticket prices for concerts and $50 t-shirts

Musicians have always gotten the bulk of their money from concert tickets and merch, they weren't making much more with physical albums over streaming.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Musicians have always gotten the bulk of their money from concert tickets and merch, they weren't making much more with physical albums over streaming.

Not true. While a band maybe only made $1 from each $18 CD sold, that's exponentially more than the fractions of a penny they make from streams

It's going to take me like an hour to figure out all of that shit. No ty

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Trumble posted...

Lol this was only generally true for the more obscure titles. Major ones found their way onto the internet very quickly - my guess is stolen (or perhaps even just borrowed) discs from the theaters?

very rare. Even top movies like Avengers, Harry Potter etc. only had webrips upon thearitical release. Those that were touted as DVD-quality are likely trojans or people deemed it too unbelievable to be trustworthy for downloading